Category talk:Tropical cyclone tracks
Merge/move
editThe proposals are in the wrong direction: Changing "Tropical cyclone tracks" to "Maps of Atlantic hurricane paths" is like changing "European road maps" to "Maps of German autobahns".
Furthermore, the content of the two categories needs to be kept separate, else the 46 images in Category:Maps of Atlantic hurricane paths will be completely lost amongst the 4000+ in this category and those files have more precise information (that Atlantic again), which would be lost. Ultimately this category should be split, but that requires major work.
If this category is moved to the "Maps of X" format: Move this page to Category:Maps of tropical cyclone tracks (or paths). I can't see the point of bothering, but if someone wants to alter it to that I won't object. What is worthwhile is sorting out the categories: Making Category:Maps of Atlantic hurricane paths and Category:Maps of Pacific hurricane paths subcategories of this one, and giving this one the additional parent of Category:Weather maps.--Nilfanion (talk) 12:11, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- ah ja, sorry, both of my suggestions (move/merge) were very bad, i completly misunderstood the purpose - by now we have:
- Category:Tropical cyclones
- Maps of hurricanes and typhoons (like Aerial photographs, Radar images .. a.s.o.) - maybe rename just Maps of tropical cyclones: what is the difference? subtropical hurricanes? tropical cyclones just causing storms, no hurricanes? do we need to separate that for mapping terms?)
- subtheme: Maps of tracks/paths of hurricanes and typhoons/tropical cyclones
- subtheme: Maps of tracks/paths of tropical cyclones by basin (also subtheme of Category:Tropical cyclones by basin
- and here is to place Category:Maps of Atlantic hurricane paths/tracks, Maps of Pacific hurricane paths
- special subtheme Category:Cumulative tropical cyclone tracks
- subtheme: Category:Tropical cyclone seasonal tracks (cumulated)
- subtheme: Maps of tracks/paths of tropical cyclones (special type)
- subtheme: Maps of tracks/paths of tropical cyclones by basin (also subtheme of Category:Tropical cyclones by basin
- subtheme: Maps of tracks/paths of hurricanes and typhoons/tropical cyclones
- Maps of hurricanes and typhoons (like Aerial photographs, Radar images .. a.s.o.) - maybe rename just Maps of tropical cyclones: what is the difference? subtropical hurricanes? tropical cyclones just causing storms, no hurricanes? do we need to separate that for mapping terms?)
- so the name of this category is synonym to Maps of tracks/paths of hurricanes and typhoons/tropical cyclones - thats what you would await in here, if reading the name, not knowing your project
- but the content is a special type (done with a special software) of maps of tracks/paths of hurricanes and typhoons/tropical cyclones
so we should name maps of [tracks/paths] of [hurricanes and typhoons/tropical cyclones] ([done with] Jdorje Tracks) - (or however you name your programm), so a visitor knows, what awaits him, and the same all cat&subcats, names whithout this bracket will contain same topic, but done with another techique W!B: (talk) 02:37, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well maps are different from photographs and radar imagery, but there are more maps than just tracks/paths: File:Hurricane Dog (1950).JPG is a map. As for "path" or "track", track is the better word as that is what meteorologists use. All global categories should use "tropical cyclone" as opposed to "hurricane" or "typhoon" or "hurricanes and typhoons".
- As for other things:
- I agree with the structure you've laid out.
- I don't like "maps of tracks of..", I prefer "track maps of...". We do not have to use "maps of..." format for everything, this is the same as Category:Weather maps instead of Category:Maps of weather.
- As for this category, something like "automatically generated track maps of tropical cyclones" would be OK. That reads better (in English) than "track maps of tropical cyclones (X)", and keeps the distinction between the two types.--Nilfanion (talk) 10:14, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- ah fine, please correct all my suggestions, i'm no native english, so i'm quite bad in inventing names ;) - what i wanted to point out is, try to precise, what you want to put in here: all automatically generated or just your maps: this categories name should tell it is resevered to a special type of how it is done (i.e. yours), if you name it "automatically generated ", and there comes another guy/girl with an other style of "automatically generated track maps of tropical cyclones" (other coulours, other tracking symbols), or some singular images, we will have to do the same recat all again (or you will get a mess) .. W!B: (talk) 22:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- We have a mess already. I've done the least bad option available, putting the two "maps of X paths" categories as subcats of this one. Its not perfect as it means the parent is overpopulated and the sub-categories badly named, but it is better than nothing (which is what the move would result in). I'm happy to leave it in state it is now - with no distinction between the source of maps.--Nilfanion (talk) 17:39, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
- ah fine, please correct all my suggestions, i'm no native english, so i'm quite bad in inventing names ;) - what i wanted to point out is, try to precise, what you want to put in here: all automatically generated or just your maps: this categories name should tell it is resevered to a special type of how it is done (i.e. yours), if you name it "automatically generated ", and there comes another guy/girl with an other style of "automatically generated track maps of tropical cyclones" (other coulours, other tracking symbols), or some singular images, we will have to do the same recat all again (or you will get a mess) .. W!B: (talk) 22:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)