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Category:Schleuße_im_EidersperrwerkEdit

wrong name - should be Schleuse im Eidersperrwerk Mef.ellingen (talk) 10:52, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Move queued at CommonsDelinker. --rimshottalk 21:58, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Should be "Canal lock in Eidersperrwerk". --Foroa (talk) 06:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Right, it's not a name is it? --rimshottalk 19:36, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Canal lock in Eidersperrwerk

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Category:8.8_kilometers_bridgesEdit

There are 8 bridges of 8-9 km, do we need categories every 100m ? ELEKHHT 08:31, 13 April 2011 (UTC) Also tagged:

Suggest merging all into Category:8 kilometer bridges. Probably all other categories larger than 1km could be merged the same way. --ELEKHHT 03:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support merge, maybe in time there will be enough bridges, but for now there's just not enough justification. -mattbuck (Talk) 01:59, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support merge. --ŠJů (talk) 22:41, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Merged bridge longer than 5 kilometer. – Kwj2772 (msg) 04:31, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

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Category:WehlauEdit

Unused cat with unlikely redirect. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 12:24, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Such redirection is useful. In minds of many persons exists this out-of-date name. The current name is not easy effable and the memorization to not Slavs. --Starscream (talk) 20:43, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Correct, useful. --ŠJů (talk) 22:14, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Redirect kept, does seem useful. --rimshottalk 22:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


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Category:LEGO_FabulandEdit

Contains only copyright violations. 84.61.170.180 08:35, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Empty for longer time category: deketed. --High Contrast (talk) 18:26, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 09:23, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Polish_BTR-60PB_with_a_breakerEdit

There is no encyclopedic value for such vaguely named categories 80.187.106.38 15:51, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

It is not vaguely named. This category is for BTR-60PB APCs that have been used by ZOMO and later the Polish Police and have been specially modified to be able to remove obstacles. So I would say this category does have encyclopedic value.
Regards. - SuperTank17 (talk) 20:27, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Deleted. Vehicles are not categorized by vehicle-mounted devices but by type. --High Contrast (talk) 07:49, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


Done. --rimshottalk 09:23, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

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Category:Alsthom_locomotivesEdit

Incorrect category name: mustn't it be Category:Alstom locomotives without the "h" in Alstom??? 80.187.107.24 19:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

If I remember well, it was ALSTHOM (ALSsace-THOMson-houston) in the remote past, later it became GEC ALSTHOM. Sometime about 1998 they dropped the H and it became ALSTOM. Therefore "Alsthom locomotives" is historically correct. An option is to use a category redirect, so that both names work. SV1XV (talk) 20:02, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
That's right - as a solution I've moved the lot to Category:Alstom locomotives and created a redirect. Alstom appears to be the more commonly used term, ie the parent category has no "H".Imgaril (talk) 20:17, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Category redirect is a good solution. --rimshottalk 09:25, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

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Category:WharfsEdit

Category same as Category:Wharves. IMHO, we need to eliminate one or the other & merge. We also need to add redirects so we avoid this issue in the future. --FieldMarine (talk) 14:06, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Both are equally correct, be arbitrary, merge, and turn one into a redirect. Personally, as a Commons category, I'd lean toward wharfs because non-native speakers are more likely to choose the more regular plural. (If I were writing something myself I'd lean toward wharves because I'm more conservative in my spelling.) - Jmabel ! talk 16:26, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Agree with merge and redirect. Jmabel's suggestion sounds reasonable to me, unless there is an overriding linguistic reason the other should be preferred. Infrogmation (talk) 18:15, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Both categories have been redirected to Category:Wharves and quays. --The Evil IP address (talk) 12:49, 23 August 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Chelsea_PensionersEdit

category redirects don't work (i.e. This category is now a subcategory of the category it is redirecting to.) :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 21:12, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing. That makes sense. —Tom Morris (talk) 21:21, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Issue fixed. --The Evil IP address (talk) 12:51, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

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Category:ChorusesEdit

Merge to Category:Choirs ? Any reason to keep this separate? ~ NVO (talk) 21:45, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Agree with merge & add redirect. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 21:54, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Yep. My English is guilty for not checking the existence of "Category:Choirs" :) --Millosh (talk) 04:23, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Merged, straight-forward proposal. --The Evil IP address (talk) 12:55, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

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Category:Casino_(Campione_d'Italia)Edit

Contains only FOP violations. 84.62.193.214 19:53, 22 April 2011 (UTC)


Deleted, empty category. --The Evil IP address (talk) 12:59, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

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Category:Buildings_called_avenueEdit

  • Delete - These are not buildings called "avenue", they are buildings which are identified by their street address, which includes "avenue". It's hard to believe that the category has any real value, but if one insists on it, a better choice would be "builings identified by their street address", although that, too, is basically a make-work category. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete - Concur completely with Beyond My Ken. For example Category:700 First Avenue, Seattle, isn't a building called [something] Avenue, it's a building known by its address, which happens to be on First Avenue. And, in fact, it has been known by a number of names, but I named the category "700 First Avenue" so as not to have the inevitable confusion that would arise from choosing any of its many names. - Jmabel ! talk 00:27, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
That is the case with a number of buildings which have been put into this category. For instance, 305 Second Avenue was originally the "Lying-in Hospital" and is now the "Rutherford Apartments". Using the street address for the building's category was a matter of convenience, but the building is not "named" 305 Second Avenue. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:58, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete, well said already. There may be some value in "Buildings known by street address", but listing "by a single word included in name" doesn't make much sense. NVO (talk) 02:38, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
  • DeleteJim.henderson 11:51, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete Jeffrey Beall (talk) 18:38, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Deleted. --The Evil IP address (talk) 13:02, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

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Category:Estima_(board_game)Edit

Collection of unused images of copyright game. Game has no article as far as I can tell. Guy 22:52, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

There are 9 million of unused images on Commons. One has to start with something. --Foroa (talk) 16:18, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Deleted, empty category. --The Evil IP address (talk) 13:06, 23 August 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Charlie_PattonEdit

Bo Diddley 24.183.207.140 09:16, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Charlie Patton seems ok to me. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 03:40, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Nothing done, no reason for discussion given, anyhow. --rimshottalk 09:34, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Langscheid_(near_Mayen)Edit

category:Langscheid (bei Mayen) ist the same village GFreihalter 09:24, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose I can't remember why I didn't notice the existing category, but the English name is preferable. The parentheses do not belong to the official name of the municipality and should therefore not be in German. English is the standard language of the Commons categories.--Leit 15:25, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Deleted, no disambiguation needed, for now. If needed, it would be more natural to disambiguate by country, state or Landkreis, in that order. --rimshottalk 09:38, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

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Category:Battlestar_Galactica_flagsEdit

Contains only copyright violations. 84.61.170.180 18:20, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

If and when they are deleted for being copyright violations, then delete the category. You have to make the case against them being PD-ineligible first, and this is not the right place for that.--Prosfilaes (talk) 18:01, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
  • all are copyvios of a non-free TV show. Δ 03:23, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
    • If you think they're copying something copyrightable, put them up for DR. This is not a mass DR, none of the creators or watchers have been notified, and there are some subtle issues here; they're hardly screenshots.--Prosfilaes (talk) 04:48, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Kept. Nominate the files for DR instead if you need, CFD is not the place to discuss such things. --Trycatch (talk) 18:30, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

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Category:Buses in BostonEdit

These three categories, now emptied, are merely a doubling of Category:Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority and Category:MBTA Bus Operations:

I see no reason to keep them. --Pi.1415926535 (talk) 15:58, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. "Buses" is a subcategory of "bus transport" (e. g., a bus stop or a bus timetable or bus staff are not buses but are part of bus transport). Bus transport is a subcategory of public transport. MBTA is a transport operator which operates more kinds of transport. There may appear also buses of other operators or systems in Boston (in the past, in the future, atypic lines and non-line transport, private buses etc.). It's useful to make differentiate categorization by operator or transport system and categorization by city. They relate but aren't identical. – Btw., "MBTA Bus Operations" is a proper name of a company division or should be "MBTA bus operations"? I suppose, "MBTA bus operations" should be a subcategory of "Bus transport in Boston". "Buses of MBTA" should be a subcategory of "MBTA bus operations" and "Buses in Boston". --ŠJů (talk) 22:58, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

I've moved several categories (trams, etc) into Public transport of Boston.

I personally think that MBTA Bus Operations should stay as such and NOT be split with "Buses on MBTA", but that's a separate matter and can be discussed elsewhere.

I now understand the purpose of these three categories, and have set them up so they're no longer duplicating the MBTA page. I withdraw the deletion nomination. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:26, 27 April 2011 (UTC)


Closed as keep: Nominator (me) withdrew nomination and the sole vote was for keep. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:57, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

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Category:SpeechEdit

Redundant to Category:Speeches :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 04:11, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

The intended use for this category is not redundant with "Speeches". Speech is for media files about the human behavior of speech; while speeches is for instances of oratory.--ragesoss (talk) 16:52, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Closed, these are two different concepts. I will add a description to the category to reflect that. --rimshottalk 13:55, 23 October 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Clearview_(typeface)Edit

Duplicate of Category:Clearview; the other one has the better name, so they should be merged. Nyttend (talk) 12:57, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Done, see en:Clearview. --Foroa (talk) 17:12, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Closed. Category:Clearview is now a disambiguation page. --rimshottalk 14:03, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

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Category:MS_Wissenschaft_(ship,_1969)Edit

duplicate of populated Category:Wissenschaft (ship, 1969) Finavon (talk) 19:59, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

please delete or redirect. --  Docu  at 20:21, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
I redirected it for now. --  Docu  at 10:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Redirect kept. --rimshottalk 20:59, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


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Category:World_War_2_German_submarine_crewEdit

Should be renamed as Category:World War II submarine crews of Germany (note the II) or merged into Category:World War II submarines of Germany :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 05:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Please issue {{Move}} request. --Foroa (talk) 06:15, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I created the category; the change of name seems perfectly reasonable and correct. Catsmeat 21:17, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

I added a move request to CommonsDelinker. --rimshottalk 00:00, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Category:World War II submarine crews of Germany. --rimshottalk 00:14, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Stefan_Rowecki_"Grot"_monument_in_WarsawEdit

Category shall be deleted - duplicate of Category:Monuments and memorials to Stefan Rowecki Szczebrzeszynski (talk) 10:17, 15 April 2011 (UTC)


Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 21:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Criminals by countryEdit

Not sure what de definition for a criminal is for Commons, are is appropriate to maintain such a label ? See also hereKrinkletalk 09:23, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: I'd say a "criminal" is a person who has been found guilty of a criminal offence under the law of a particular country. In the case of living people, there should be reliable evidence of such a conviction before such a category is used. — SMUconlaw (talk) 19:47, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
For an encyclopedia wiki that isn't an issue but here on Commons we use little to no references, and I don't believe it is maintainable with the current system to start doing so. Are we going to be adding references to File description pages as reliable evidence whether a depicted person is a criminal? Are we going to create Reference sections on Category descriptions pages of persons? I'd say, no. Proposing to nuke these and similar categories and instead keep the categorization on Commons media related, Wikipedia is for informational content about the persons themselves. Except for descriptions like "Depiction of a criminal" (which could both mean fiction to non-fiction), describing a person in a photo as being criminal seems inappropriate for Commons in my opinion. Both due to the fact that it is maintainability in the current system and because it is ambiguous because there are also photos of people taken in a different country before they were considered to be a criminal, if they are later found guilty in another country, would that photo be a candidate for this category? –Krinkletalk 10:06, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

No consensus: Stale discussion. King of ♠ 00:45, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:2011_Sendai_earthquake_damageEdit

Name change to something like Category:2011 Tōhoku earthquake damage. I don't know if this has been discussed previously but since all the subcategories use that nomenclature, it's strange to have a different name for the parent. Pichpich (talk) 13:19, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

The parent category is Category:2011 Sendai earthquake. Shouldn't be also renamed? --ŠJů (talk) 22:05, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I agree with the rename. John Vandenberg (chat) 22:11, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment It was discussed briefly at Category talk:2011 Sendai earthquake#Rename. Is the worldwide English name for this the "Tōhoku earthquake" rather than then "Sendai earthquake"? (I'm in the U.S., and I always still hear the name "Sendai", and see Sendai highlighted as the main city on news reports. I don't think I have seen the name "Tōhoku" at all in American news reports.) Also, if this covers the aftershocks also (or even if not), would something like "2011 Japanese earthquakes" and/or "2011 earthquake damage in Japan" be more appropriate and more obvious to everyone? (If there happens to be another big earthquake in Japan the next 8 months, this could be renamed.) --Closeapple (talk) 03:04, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support "Sendai" represents only a very small area. In contrast, "Tōhoku" includes much of the affected area.
    From the perspective of Japan, "2011 Great East Japan Earthquake" I think it is more appropriate. However, the official name of this earthquake is "2011 off the Pacific coast of Tohoku Earthquake", so the "2011 Tōhoku earthquake" I think it can also.
    Also should rename:
    --Vantey (talk) 00:16, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support the renaming of all related categories. Arsonal (talk) 07:21, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Already moved for most of them. Processing Category:2011 Sendai earthquake relief right now. King of ♠ 00:40, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Fastbacks_in_WarsawEdit

What is the encyclopedic value of this category? I cannot see any advantage to create categories according automobile types by city - there is really no use for this 80.187.107.24 19:37, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


No consensus: King of ♠ 00:39, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


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Category:NauticaEdit

Delete as it could be something else than the ship Nautica built 2000. --  Docu  at 05:09, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. For now, it redirects to the only one. If it can be referred to something else, make a disambiguation category. If there are multiple targets, why would you delete it so it points to zero targets? Wknight94 talk 12:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Already deleted: Empty category. King of ♠ 00:38, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Disney Magic (ship, 1998)Edit

I can't find any reason for this category to have been moved from Category:Disney Magic. The parenthetical is extraneous and far too wordy. --Powers (talk) 14:54, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

  • In the case where there is more then one Disney ship with the name Magic, I recommend renaming the files here to Disney Magic (1998) similiar to the structure shown here: Category:USS Wasp. Thanks & Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 16:38, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
    • Moot point, since there isn't more than one such ship. Powers (talk) 14:35, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
I agree that the format Ship Name (ship, date) is redundant. I think the standard format should be Ship Name (Date) or Ship Name (Class). Whatever it is, we should follow a standard format for ships and this category should follow that format. Presently, there seems to be a mixture for ship name categories. Thanks & Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 13:54, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Why? What does "Disney Magic (1998)" tell you that "Disney Magic" doesn't? You still know what ship the category shows. Powers (talk) 15:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
When viewed in isolation, I agree that "Disney Magic (1998)" does not provide anything that "Disney Magic" already provides. However, I made the recommendation for the two categories mentioned above because they follow a broader standard category structure & following a common naming convention has merit, as long as it is logical & simple. Thanks & Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 20:40, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Suffice it to say I disagree. When adding categories, we want it to be as natural as possible for users. Powers (talk) 15:46, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Now I see Category:Disney Wonder has been moved, too? While this discussion was ongoing? Both moves are completely and totally unnecessary. Powers (talk) 23:10, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

A wider discussion about this topic is on Commons:Categories for discussion/2011/09/Category:Ships by name --Stunteltje (talk) 14:00, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Move both: There is disagreement on whether the year should be included, but it seems silly to declare "no consensus" and keep the status quo when it is clearly the last choice of both participants, so I'll arbitrarily designate "no year" as the style to use. Feel free to take it back to CfD if you care about the year. King of ♠ 00:31, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Sound_carriersEdit

Empty cat; redundant to Category:Sound recording. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 05:19, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 16:39, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Sound_recordings_of_womenEdit

Overly specific; redundant to either Category:Sound recording or Category:Pronunciation, which contains many other pronunciations of Wiktionary terms. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 05:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I only created this to get the recording out of the main Category:Women category. I could really care less if it was deleting. My only concern is that these recording will end up back in Category:Women which is a "main category".--ARTEST4ECHO talk 21:11, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Keep. But Category:Female voices recordings should be better, ihmo--Pierpao.lo (listening) 11:13, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
It's a de-facto duplicate of Category:Audio files about the female voice, I'm murging the content. Orrlingtalk 02:07, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Already moved to Category:Audio files displaying the female voice. King of ♠ 00:22, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Audio_recordingEdit

Largely unused, redundant to Category:Sound recording :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 05:29, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Merge to "sound..." NVO (talk) 21:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
    • On a broader level, the whole Category:Audio needs attention. I mean, what's the point of changing one "audio" of a hundred? NVO (talk) 21:56, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Merge: King of ♠ 00:19, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Sound_recordsEdit

Redundant to Category:Recording studios :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 05:30, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Incorrect suggestions. "Records" are a subset of "recorded media" (Category:Audio storage media) mass produced for sale. Probably you meant "record labels"? They produce "records" but aren't equivalent either. NVO (talk) 21:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Kept: Clearly not the same thing. King of ♠ 00:18, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


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Category:GewindegangEdit

Delete the empty category or else redirect it to Category:Mechanical threads. Wizard191 (talk) 17:54, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


Already deleted: King of ♠ 00:17, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Threads_in_artEdit

Delete the empty category because it is unlikely to ever be populated. Wizard191 (talk) 17:56, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

But there are now some categories in it --A.Ceta (talk) 19:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I removed two of them because there aren't any threads in the the art. The other cat is empty. Wizard191 (talk) 16:42, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep This category was only empty because Wizard191 emptied it. Now it again contains two categories of sculptures that show threads in art. If sounding anyhow confusing the category could be renamed in Screw threads in art. Emptying, however, is certainly not the best way to handle it. -- Ies (talk) 08:16, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't see any screw threads in any of those pictures. Another note, I can't read German, so I'm not sure what the categories mean either. Wizard191 (talk) 13:37, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Kept: No longer empty, it appears. King of ♠ 00:17, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Drilling_and_threadingEdit

This category poorly encompasses two existing categories: category:threading and category:drilling. The contents should be split into these existing cats and then the unrelated stuff taken out, such as category:center punches and category:go/no go gauges. Wizard191 (talk) 18:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


No consensus: Please open a new CfD if you wish. King of ♠ 00:15, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Jewish_Legion_in_World_War_1Edit

Should be renamed to Category:Jewish Legion in World War I instead (note the I) :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 04:20, 15 April 2011 (UTC)


Renamed: Next time, for uncontroversial orthographic changes, please submit them directly to User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands. King of ♠ 00:14, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Medici CollectionEdit

A swift search does not reveal any authoritative definition of a "Medici Collection". Please add a description defining the subject with relevant sources, or delete category. --Urbourbo (talk) 22:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Maybe have a try here: http://uniroma.academia.edu/FabianaLanna/Papers/320011/La_collezione_Medici-Lorena_di_Firenze_-_Alcuni_studi_e_ricerche_preliminari_-_Introduzione
This is the collection on which at least FOUR museums in Firenze (Pitti, Uffizi, Bargello, Palazzo Vecchio) are based... --User:G.dallorto (talk) 17:31, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, unfortunately, I don't speak Italian, but please do enlighten us with a definition on the category page - or, even better, with an article en:Medici Collection. Best, /Urbourbo (talk) 19:01, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

No consensus: Stale request. King of ♠ 00:13, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


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Category:United_States_Army_National_GuardEdit

Only one Army National Guard. Should be renamed to Army National Guard. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 17:17, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose. "Army National Guard" in an international context could mean anything. Keep consistency with parent categories Category:United States National Guard and Category:United States Army

. --Foroa (talk) 16:28, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Those categories are consistent with articles on Wikipedia but on WP Army National Guard solely refers to the U.S. Army National Guard. There isn't even a disambiguation note at the top of the page. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 05:22, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Those categories are consistent with the en:wiki en:Category:United States Army National Guard, their parent categories on Commons and on en:wiki and comply with Commons naming rules; it avoids confusion with that various national guards as shown in en:National Guard. --Foroa (talk) 05:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

No consensus: King of ♠ 00:11, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Sankt_Johann_(near_Mayen)Edit

category:Sankt Johann (bei Mayen) is the same village GFreihalter 09:23, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose I can't remember why I didn't notice the existing category, but the English name is preferable. The parentheses do not belong to the official name of the municipality and should therefore not be in German. English is the standard language of the Commons categories.--Leit 15:25, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
The usual way to disambiguate would be by superordinate political division. In this case, as there is more than one Sankt Johann in Rhineland-Palatinate, I suggest a merge of both categories into Category:Sankt Johann (Mayen-Koblenz). --rimshottalk 09:44, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

No consensus: King of ♠ 00:11, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Backroads_of_MoscowEdit

Back road, oh really?

Highly subjective category name with a probably derogatory meaning. The only common thing among these streets is that they have proezd (проезд = passage, driveway) in their original Russian name, rather than more common "street". Shmitovsky and Kolomensky are important arterial roads (example: an 8-lane artery is not a "back road" even when it's quite far from city center 55°39′49″N 37°38′1″E / 55.66361°N 37.63361°E / 55.66361; 37.63361). Tretyakovsky is an upper-class shopping arcade. Novoluzhnetsky, Yelokhovsky are upscale midtown streets. Delete and move content back to category:Streets and squares of Moscow.

This case really is about proliferation of various non-English words meaning the same (in this case, "street"), but with an added awkward translation into English. There's a whole bunch of Russian names for street, but there shouldn't be a bunch of parallel categories. NVO 12:51, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

  • p.s. this selection, imo, better qualifies for "back roads" (well, alleys, driveways, dark passages you name it). NVO 13:03, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
  • delete and move per NVO proposal. --Kaganer 17:02, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
  • agree, all of them are streets anyway and often 'proezd' is arbitruary title for otherwise regular street. Shuvaev (talk) 20:55, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Delete and upmerge to Category:Streets and squares of Moscow. King of ♠ 00:06, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Water_pumping_stations_in_IrelandEdit

Unused category. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 12:20, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

It's part of the categories made when we did the first geograph batch. Nuke it if it's no longer needed. It's probably worth to sort water pumping stations by type instead. --  Docu  at 09:44, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Used, correct, useful. --ŠJů (talk) 22:12, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Kept.: In use. King of ♠ 11:00, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Water_pumping_stations_in_Northern_IrelandEdit

Unused category. Should be placed into Category:Water pumping stations in the United Kingdom. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 12:21, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Used, correct, useful. --ŠJů (talk) 22:13, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Kept: In use. King of ♠ 11:00, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Water_pumping_stations_in_ScotlandEdit

Unused category. Should be placed into Category:Water pumping stations in the United Kingdom. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 12:21, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Used, correct, useful. --ŠJů (talk) 22:13, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Kept: In use. King of ♠ 11:00, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Water_pumping_stations_in_WalesEdit

Unused category. Should be placed into Category:Water pumping stations in the United Kingdom. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 12:21, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Used, correct, useful. --ŠJů (talk) 22:12, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Kept.: In use. King of ♠ 11:00, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:WerpolEdit

Unused category :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 12:24, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. A real village and correct description. Prospective and useful category. --ŠJů (talk) 22:18, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Kept: In use. King of ♠ 11:00, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:ChargersEdit

Highly ambiguous. I moved all battery chargers out, there could be Dodge Chargers, San Diego Chargers etc. Is there a need for a separate category for "charger = dish, platter?" ~ NVO (talk) 20:13, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg Support rename to "Charger plates". howcheng {chat} 00:40, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support, suggestion to rename to "Charger plates" sounds logical to me. FieldMarine (talk) 04:16, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support, though I'd pefer something like "Chargers (plates)". Ingolfson (talk) 02:52, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support, I'd prefer "Chargers (tableware)" because Category:Plates is also very confusing. It contains Category:Plates in bordures (see heraldry), Category:Labret (see lip plate). --Bohème (talk) 00:47, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Rename: Going with "Charger plates," the most popular option. King of ♠ 10:51, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Postcards_by_Ivan_BilibinEdit

Ivan Bilibin died 1942, so how can these be public domain? Prince Kassad (talk) 19:58, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

  • {{PD-RusEmpire}}. NVO (talk) 07:02, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
    • Yes, for some postcards this template applies. But there are others like File:Ivan Bilibin 131.jpg which were published after 1917, so this template doesn't apply. They have an erroneous PD-France claim - were they first published in Russia? If so, {{PD-Russia-2008}} may apply. -- Prince Kassad (talk) 13:47, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Kept: As long as some of the postcards are OK, this category will not be deleted. Please list any images that should be deleted at COM:DR. King of ♠ 10:49, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Osa_pulchraEdit

Guys, would you please fix double categorization. Category:Osa (Rubiaceae) is a plant, Category:Osa is a town. p.s. Incredible flowers! ~ NVO (talk) 17:59, 3 April 2011 (UTC)


Already done: King of ♠ 10:48, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Water castlesEdit

This was a marked with a requested move to Category:Moated castles. Due to the number of subcategories following the same naming and the need for a clearer consensus, I'm changing it to a full discussion. You can see the comments so far at Category talk:Water castles. --– Adrignola talk 23:37, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I think, only few the moated castles can be called "water castles". A water castle is a narrower concept, I would say. --ŠJů (talk) 22:23, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Is the term "moated castle" identical with cs:Vodní hrad, da:Vandborg, de:Wasserburg (Gebäude), fr:Wasserburg, nds-nl:Waterburcht, ru:Замок на воде, sk:Vodný hrad? --ŠJů (talk) 22:35, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
In en:Moat (there is no entry for moated castle): A moat is a deep, broad ditch, either dry or filled with water, that surrounds a castle, building or town, historically to provide it with a preliminary line of defence. In some places moats evolved into more extensive water defences, including natural or artificial lakes, dams and sluices. So I would say that water castles are a broader and more international concept than moated castles. --Foroa (talk) 02:34, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Leo has moated castle as English translation of de:Wasserschloss (Gebäude) which redirects to de:Wasserburg (Gebäude). --Bjs (talk) 18:28, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
As far as I know, in the Czech terminology, "vodní hrad" (water castle) or "vodní tvrz" (water fort) are terms commonly used for buildings in plain terrain, alluvial plain, valley etc. Summit- or plateau- castles have often also (water) moats but are not called "vodní hrad". --ŠJů 20:59, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Kept: King of ♠ 10:47, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Miniature rail transportEdit

It was proposed to move this category to Category:Miniature railways for the following reason by User:ŠJů: "Miniature railways don't make some specific transport system. They often haven't a transport purpose as primary." See discussion so far at Category talk:Miniature rail transport. – Adrignola talk 23:48, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Support move, per talk: Andy Dingley (talk) 23:12, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Support move, of course. --ŠJů (talk) 22:00, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Merge to Category:Miniature railways. King of ♠ 10:44, 29 November 2012 (UTC)