Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Bamberg Ottokirche Luftbild-20211031-RM-120034.jpg
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- Gallery: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture/Religious buildings#Germany
- Info An aerial photo of a German church; IMO high quality, good composition and colours. created by Ermell - uploaded by Ermell - nominated by Cmao20 -- Cmao20 (talk) 22:58, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- Cmao20 (talk) 22:58, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support That's really superb quality for a drone photo. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:42, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Llez (talk) 07:04, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Aristeas (talk) 09:00, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Thanks for the nom.--Ermell (talk) 14:14, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
SupportPoco a poco (talk) 17:02, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- I prefer the version above, so I move my support vote there. Poco a poco (talk) 16:40, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Fischer.H (talk) 17:59, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Weak oppose I don't know ... it's technically good, but I find the cityscape background a little distracting. Daniel Case (talk) 21:37, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure how one could take a picture of this church without having the city in the background, but maybe your point is you don't think the motif is feature-worthy, in which case fair enough Cmao20 (talk) 22:15, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 07:59, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- Radomianin (talk) 11:17, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Not the best perspective and lighting angle. The building is flat so the architectural features aren't clear and we don't know how deep they are. The bottom crop is tight, giving little context for its location. While many of our architectural photos with this perspective and short distance-to-subject suffer from being taken on the ground, this one has the opposite problem, of being taken nearly level with the clock. The ideal height to minimise perspective distortion would be half-way up, though that might cause trees and other low buildings to cover the bottom a bit.
- File:Bamberg Ottokirche Luftbild-20211031-RM-115941.jpg is a far superior aerial photo in every way. The angle demonstrates the features of the building, and shade highlights form. We can see how broad the building is and how deep features such as windows are. Despite being taken even higher up, it is further back, so the proportions of the tower don't appear distorted. We get a much better idea of its location in the town. All this compensate, imo, for the subject being a little smaller. In an aerial photo, you have much more freedom of viewpoint and fewer obstacles hiding the subject, so I think you should step away from front elevation view and pick the angled perspective view. While the former is great for builders working to a plan, it is the latter that architects use to show off to the client how their buildings look. There's a reason why. -- Colin (talk) 12:33, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I agree that that photo is better. Is it too different to offer as an alternative for us to vote on? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:16, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Lmbuga (talk) 13:57, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support.--Vulp❯❯❯here! 17:35, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support But File:Bamberg Ottokirche Luftbild-20211031-RM-115941.jpg is even better in my opinion.--Famberhorst (talk) 18:41, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose per Colin. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:56, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Milseburg (talk) 15:37, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Alternative
edit- Gallery: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture/Religious buildings#Germany
- Info As three people have now expressed a preference for this photo, I am adding it as an alternative. Pinging all who have voted on the original: @Ikan Kekek, Colin, Llez, Ermell, Aristeas, Poco a poco, Fischer.H, Daniel Case, and Agnes Monkelbaan: @Radomianin, Lmbuga, and Vulphere: .
- Weak support I actually prefer the other one, I think the light is better (the colours are a bit washed out by comparison in this one) and you can see more of the clock tower in the original which is one of the most interesting parts of this church. But now I have added both, you can make up your own minds. Cmao20 (talk) 20:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support I like this composition better. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:38, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Me too ... Daniel Case (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Charlesjsharp (talk) 21:32, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support per my comments above, though strictly speaking, this isn't what Alts are for: "Alternatives are for different crops or post-processing of the original image, if they are suggested by voters." -- Colin (talk) 21:34, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Famberhorst: who was missed out of the above list. -- Colin (talk) 21:39, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- I am aware of that, but I have done the same once before and not got in trouble for it (actually on your suggestion ) here. Thanks for pinging Famberhorst. Cmao20 (talk) 21:44, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Colin: While the rule may say that in theory, I think the rule in practice (and what is more in line with the spirit of having alts) is: "Alternatives are for images which are sufficiently similar to the original nomination that it is inconceivable that both could be promoted FP." -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:00, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- I'm sure we have FPs of the same subject from different angles (I'm not saying that's good, just that it happens) so I don't think this fits your "in practice" rule. But the place to discuss changing what the rules actually say is the FPC talk page. -- Colin (talk) 09:00, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Famberhorst: who was missed out of the above list. -- Colin (talk) 21:39, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Better composition, I prefer this one.--Vulp❯❯❯here! 01:11, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:56, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Better composition.--Famberhorst (talk) 06:00, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 07:17, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support per Famberhorst; I like this photo, too. -- Radomianin (talk) 08:00, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Both variants have their merits; so I am fine with either of them as FP. --Aristeas (talk) 08:24, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- IamMM (talk) 11:18, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Lmbuga (talk) 13:52, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Poco a poco (talk) 16:40, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Tournasol7 (talk) 18:46, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Architecture/Religious buildings#Germany
The chosen alternative is: File:Bamberg Ottokirche Luftbild-20211031-RM-115941.jpg