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  • Category: Commons:Featured pictures/People#Events
  •   Info I saw this on the en-WP Main Page a while ago and I think it is a visually really great photo. It is a bit on the small side, but we are not likely to get a better size anytime soon since the hat toss ceased in 2010. I was thinking about putting it in '/Historical' since it is now in the past, but I don't think it's a historically important event.Striked per comment below. Created by Unknown photographer, U.S. Army - uploaded by Matanya - nominated by W.carter -- Cart (talk) 10:33, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support -- Cart (talk) 10:33, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Question I was curious about the hat toss ending in 2010. So I googled it. This photo you nominated said it's Class of 2012. But you said hat toss ended in 2010. Plus there's this photo [1] taken of a West Point hat toss in 2017. I did not find anything about the hat toss ending. But I did find this photo [2], an en wiki FP, of the US Naval Academy hat toss saying it started there in 1912. I'm pretty sure they do this at the US Air Force Academy too. I like this photo and will likely vote for it but am simply curious about where you found something that said the hat toss tradition ended. Seven Pandas (talk) 12:03, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • You are right, I was wondering why this was two years after but thought it was a glitch in the upload. Taking another look, I had misread a part of the section in the article and missed that the stopping of the hat toss was in India. My bad. So there might be better photos to come, but I still think this is a great photo and I'll keep the nom. The WP FP you linked to is good, but I find this a better compo with a sunny disposition and mixed gender/race graduates. Thanks for correcting me, --Cart (talk) 13:12, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have corrected the small tilt in the photo, but full perspective correction is usually not done when the main subject is people or objects(hats) that would be totally distorted by such an edit. --Cart (talk) 14:10, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No, it would not. But it does reduce the already insufficient resolution. --The Cosmonaut (talk) 15:39, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your effort, but I prefer the original. In the edited example, the building suddenly overtakes the people as subject in the photo. IMO the perfect-square-photography is often adhered to a bit too rigorously on this forum. It can take away creativity and liveliness in photos. --Cart (talk) 16:10, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. Let's keep architectural perspective for architectural photos. If you are worrying about tilt and sloping verticals in a people-photo, then you are looking at the wrong thing -- Colin (talk) 18:51, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So, people-photographers can get away with downsampling and not bothering with correct exposure? Cool, good to know. Obvious geometrical distortion sometimes works in architectural photos, ironically enough. Elsewhere, it is a nuisance that's easy to correct. --The Cosmonaut (talk) 20:48, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Aren't you mixing things up now? The comments above are about perspective correction, not downsampling or exposure. Anyway, we have several examples where the "wow" factor of a photo overrides technical shortcomings (regardless of subject), that is allowed. --Cart (talk) 21:31, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I am not. It says fairly unequivocally in my vote that I oppose due to low resolution as well. I agree that the "wow" factor may occasionally take precedence, but tossed blurry hats somehow fail to make this impression on me. --The Cosmonaut (talk) 21:40, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  Oppose If this is not the full resolution available and has been downsized, then it dosen't comply does it? Charles (talk) 08:20, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Charles, AFAIK photos can be available in two versions with two licenses; one smaller that is free and one larger that has some restrictions and is not free. Artists often use this way of spreading their work. --Cart (talk) 08:34, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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