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File:Gran calavera eléctrica2.jpg, featured edit

Voting period ends on 19 Aug 2009 at 04:25:14
 

  • I am reminded of a family joke here. My grandma begot 3 daughters and one son, mostly in the 1940s. In the 1960s, my grandma and my uncle had the same milkman (milk was delievered via motor vehicle in some locations still in the 1960s) and I overheard my grandma say to the milkman, very politely about my aunt (her sons wife): "She is my favorite daughter-in-law." -- carol (talk) 02:37, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Question - the same question I asked Adam - why of all the images Posada created, do you think this one is among the best? (IMO such a statement should accompany any such nomination). Since almost all nominated restored public domain works of art make FP, we rely on the nominator's judgment. A statement from the nominator wouldn't reduce our responsibility to judge the effectiveness and wow factor of the art, but it would explain the nominator's vetting process. Downtowngal (talk) 20:09, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • The selection had a lot to do with the technical quality of the source file. It's among his calaveras--the work that Posada is best known for doing. Few of those are available in really high resolution digitized versions. Serious digital restoration work starts at about a 10MB uncompressed file. The original for this was over 60MB (around 25MB after cropping), which is a good scan at a good size. For this artist the choices basically came down to this image or "Calavera Oaxaqueña", which is compositionally superior but unfortunately someone at the Library of Congress altered the histogram on that source file, which makes it a poor choice for restoration. It's an exaggeration to say "almost all nominated restored public domain works of art make FP"--often they don't, and the options are usually so limited that specific explanation becomes repetitive. It would be wonderful to operate in a digital environment where such discussions become a feasible FPC requirement. We're several years away from that; possibly by featuring what we can get more institutions will go the route of openness. (Remember the NPG issued a legal threat last month; things are far from easy). Durova (talk) 23:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      •   Comment With Posada´s art, it is impossible to select anyone print as the best, for the technique was almost the same throughtout his production (in general terms), so what we are left with is basically the strength of the message in his production, that is, the judgement would have to be on content and context, which is practically impossible to determine that type of value. What is real is that he created a character that springs from the mexican ethos in a very, very powerful manner and was able to capture relevant social customs and cultural traits during his time, and at the same time, his work has become ageless... --Tomascastelazo (talk) 05:18, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose - thank you, Durova, and please don't take my oppose as a lack of gratitude; I agree the other image is better and I just don't think the artistic merits of this image warrant FP. Downtowngal (talk) 16:44, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support -- GerardM (talk) 18:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC) a high quality restoration of an important artist.[reply]
  •   Support We're hardly limited to one image from a major artist. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support --Tomascastelazo (talk) 05:18, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 5 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /FPCBot (talk) 22:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Non-photographic media
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