Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Ilustración de Victoria Aguirre Anchorena (mujer Argentina).jpg
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- Gallery: Commons:Featured pictures/Non-photographic media/People#Paintings
- Info created/uploaded by Rocío Mikulic - nominated by Ezarate -- Ezarateesteban 17:12, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Support -- Ezarateesteban 17:12, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Am I understanding this correctly that this is a digitally created portrait of the artist Victoria Aguirre Anchorena? I mean, it can't be made by her since she died in 1927, so who made this digital portrait? The description need to be clarified, the gallery probably changed if this is a computer-generated image and the categories needs to be sorted out. --Cart (talk) 17:50, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- It's part of contest Commons:Ilustratona made by the uploader, based on several pictures of the women, but without copying nothing of them. Ezarateesteban 17:59, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
PS:The ilustration is made in a paper and next digitalized Ezarateesteban 18:03, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for the explanation, I am very well aware of the process of making a portrait illustration. You need to add that to the description on the file page for clarification, and please fix the categories. Was she know for her cosmetics? Otherwise I find it a bit odd that a female painter is depicted as if she is putting on rouge instead of painting on her work. --Cart (talk) 18:24, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Support --Pepe piton (talk) 18:38, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Support Señoritaleona (talk) 20:47, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Support --Scann (talk) 21:03, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose Since this is digital art, the only criterion would seem to be whether the viewer considers it good art or not. And I don't. It's silly, per Cart's comment, her face is strangely shaped for no apparent artistic reason, and there's a bunch of what we could call posterization instead of a lifelike gradient or something. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:40, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose as above Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:28, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- First, thanks so much to Rocio and other participants in this contest! I'm so glad it attracted some high-quality work. It's important to remember that FPC almost never sees work like this. We mostly look at photographs and photographs (or scans) of notable art (and a diagram/infographic every once in a while). We don't regularly see original illustrations like this, so if you get a negative response here that doesn't mean it's not a very good and useful illustration; it means FPC might not be the right venue (certainly COM:VIC makes sense, at least).
This image is a stylized illustration, which takes some liberties with proportions in a way that's common for illustrations (it reminds me of some things I've seen, which I cannot put a finger on right now), but which might be a little confusing if the purpose is encyclopedic illustration. I'm also not sure about the choice to have her applying make-up per cart. Regardless, it's well done and I appreciate the level of finish. I think it's something you should be proud of, and to contribute it with a free license is appreciated. I would probably come in with a support, but I worry that the first three votes (other than the nominator) came in quickly from three people who have never before participated at FPC. That's often a sign of canvassing. Since our process here is based on numbers/voting, canvassing hurts the integrity of what we're trying to do here. Hopefully I'm wrong. — Rhododendrites talk | 14:50, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- This is very much in naïve Latin American art style, so I don't mind the technique. Hey, even Frida Kahlo used it (even the color sceme), so I can understand why it might look familiar to Rhododendrites. It is up to the artist how a person is depicted. I have also seen other works of art, as non-realistic as this, used in articles, can't remember where now though, but they were up for discussion when I made that first Kim Jong-un image back in the Stone Age. Funny this should surface just as I made a sketch of another creepy guy, see my post here after A.Savin's comment here. But with this image, I do find the way with the putting on rouge a bit demeaning for a portrait of a female artist if this isn't something she is known for in some way. As for canvassing, it's often as simple as that a nominator posts a comment saying "Hey, a drawing by one of 'our' illustrator is up at FPC", and people just want to be supportive to their wiki community. --Cart (talk) 15:26, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Found two of the articles with murals: Harry Parr-Davies and Daniel Peredo. --Cart (talk) 21:38, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Re: canvassing. Indeed. Which is why, when I tell people in my various wiki communities I have something at FPC, I always ask them not to vote unless they're a regular participant and would've voted anyway. We're even more vulnerable to canvassing here at FPC than discussions on-wiki because we're completely numbers based. — Rhododendrites talk | 15:47, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Comment My father had a very large collection of books with comic illustrations and similar prints. I'm well aware of illustrations and have an appreciation for those I find good. By the way, I've never liked Kahlo's work, either. Neither in music nor art do I take received opinion of these times as Gospel. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:21, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- Acknowledging that an art style exist and naming it is not the same as liking it. Personally I don't think this is an FP-rated example of the genre. --Cart (talk) 10:13, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- Understood. I just don't want anyone to get the wrong idea. I've supported a large number of nominations of illustrations and nominated some myself. They were pretty much all at least 100 years old, but that's just because of copyright restrictions. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:02, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose Per above. -- Karelj (talk) 12:59, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- Weak oppose I could see what the artist was going for, but it's not there yet. Daniel Case (talk) 19:29, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- Support Me gusta la técnica y no tengo ningún problema con cómo se retrata a esta mujer argentina, a diferencia de los usuarios previos --Carlillasa (talk) 23:58, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
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