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File:Kilchurn Castle at sunrise.jpg, featured edit

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Info Kilchurn Castle, a now-ruined C15th castle in Argyllshire, Scotland. This kind of very long-exposure photography isn't to everyone's taste, but it's a legitimate technique, and I think it works very well here. created by MHoser - uploaded by MHoser - nominated by Cmao20 -- Cmao20 (talk) 11:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Cmao20 (talk) 11:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Ivar (talk) 13:48, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I wonder how that could win. Little monument, a lot of landscape. For me too surreal. With natural sky I would vote with a pro. Not like that. --Milseburg (talk) 14:40, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As I say, this is a 94-second exposure, and that kind of photography very much divides opinion. I like it, but I would not be surprised if others shared your view that it's too unnatural Cmao20 (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
How that could win? Already awarded the 1st prize in the national contest of UK in WLM 2019 -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:18, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for my English: I meant: I wonder how that has could win (wie es gewinnen konnte). For WLM, the monument here is too less dominant, regardless of the question of the heaven. There were better pictures in the UK competition. --Milseburg (talk) 15:28, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, you were right. You wondered how that (photograph) could win, or maybe most formally correct in grammar, how it could have won or simply how it won. And das Himmel is the sky (sometimes, poetically, the Heavens, or in a religious sense, Heaven). -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:32, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How it could win is ambiguous. How it could have won is not. How it could win without reference to the WLM competition, easily means win FP here (or get promoted), due to the absence of reference to the past. Now that has become clear, thanks for the clarification -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:48, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not ambiguous to me. IMO, photos don't win at FPC. They can be said to pass or fail. WLM is a competition. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:08, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wiktionary: Win: "To achieve victory." -- Basile Morin (talk) 23:20, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You really want to use Wiktionary to argue English usage with a native speaker? I'm outta this side discussion. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:56, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely ridiculous. I don't pretend to speak better English than a native, and your behavio(u)r reminds me this discussion (about the meaning of the word "transport"). FP is not a competition, but it is a challenge in itself. Win: intransitive verb. You can win or lose, in a fight, you can win or lose, in a discussion, in a debate for a consensus, you can win or lose the challenge, in your FP candidature. Is that correct or not? Not equivocal for you, well, lucky Ikan, but accept it can be ambiguous (not incorrect) for others (and without being a tremendous issue) -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:20, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In German: Ich wollte sagen: Ich frage mich, wie dieses Bild den WLM-Wettbewerb gewinnen konnte (past,no subjunctive mood), da das Monument im Vergleich zur Landschaft recht wenig dominant erscheint. Für FPC ist das unerheblich. Bei FPC scheitert die Kandidatur für mich am unnatürlichen Himmel. How to say this 1:1 in English? Ok, I should have known the difference between heaven and sky. --Milseburg (talk) 12:42, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - I'm not opposed to the technique, but in this case, the effect is to make the sky and water look more like static masses, with attendant harm to the form. A more normal sky and water would be a hell of a lot better for moving one's eyes around the picture frame. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:24, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I like this technique a lot, when handled right so that it results in beautiful shapes and light that adds to the photo. There aren't that many photographers who can pull it off well enough, and unfortunately this isn't one of them. It doesn't add any nice light, the only real result is making the clouds look like a toppled stack of ... well that's not polite to say. --Cart (talk) 20:16, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Golden light and reflection -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:18, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Just working for me. --Podzemnik (talk) 05:00, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Je-str (talk) 15:19, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Basotxerri (talk) 18:44, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Looks magic --Uoaei1 (talk) 17:26, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support The long exposure makes it indeed look a bit weird, but it works for me. --Domob (talk) 18:56, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Ikan and Cart. Just a little too self-consciously arty for us. Daniel Case (talk) 04:07, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support not for all of us --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 06:19, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support.--Vulp here 04:20, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Llez (talk) 12:07, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose At least this picture could be a promising candidate in the most-undiscovered-dust-spots competition. A sloppy check added up to 9. This isn't even QI standard and should be fixed. Beyond that I feel the mountains in the left a bit distracting and dominating by volume and clarity - but not so much that it spoils the picture. --PtrQs (talk) 00:45, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PtrQs: , you are quite right, but the dust spots should be fixed now. Cmao20 (talk) 07:55, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support aaah the dust spots hunting, national sport at FPC... Nice pic btw :) - Benh (talk) 18:06, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Christian Ferrer ^(talk) 18:37, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment A bit tilted CCW, imho. --Laitche (talk) 10:51, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support I get where the opposes are coming from, I think, but this works for me. — Rhododendrites ^talk | 05:18, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Johann Jaritz (talk) 05:40, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed results:

Result: 15 support, 5 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /--A.Savin 14:40, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Architecture/Castles_and_fortifications#United Kingdom