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File:Sasplat Dënt Innerkofler Grohman Cin Dëic y Saslonch dal Col Rodela.jpg, featured edit

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Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Natural
Info all by Moroder -- Wolfgang Moroder (talk) 15:24, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Wolfgang Moroder (talk) 15:24, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support WOW. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 16:28, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Isasza (talk) 17:03, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Zcebeci (talk) 18:24, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Info --I think the snow is pretty grey and the contrast washed out: I uploaded an edited version correcting that, sharpened a bit the foreground and reduced the noise in the sky. But for this last one there are some faint "color patches" in the original file I can't help; may be with other settings during the de-raw? Sting (talk) 18:12, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not very happy with your modifications which look pretty unnatural (I'm very familiar with this evironment). I reverted the upload. It would have been nice if you asked or uploaded them on an other file. Are you sure that the previous supporters would agree with them? Anyway thanks for your effort. --Wolfgang Moroder (talk) 20:20, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if I unpleased you, but I didn't anything you couldn't undo in one click, did I? That was the point: proposing an edit and if you don't like it, simply revert it, without need to multiply derivative and unused files (that's now what happened here). Btw, no saturation was added, it only came from the enhanced contrast; may be I could have reduced it a bit to compensate. Anyway, I didn't knew that in some place on Earth grey-colored snow was falling. But I understand also that's the natural look when you wear good and dark sunglasses ;-). Sting (talk) 21:17, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support --Tuxyso (talk) 19:39, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Ralf Roleček 19:45, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Agree with Wolfgang, I think Sting's edit was oversaturated. --Laitche (talk) 20:27, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Fenerli1978 (talk) 20:36, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Bel lavoro,sarebbe in italia? --LivioAndronico ^(talk) 21:08, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Italianissimo al confine tra Alto Adige e Trentino, grazie--Wolfgang Moroder (talk) 21:21, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support 😄 ArionEstar 😜 (talk) 22:10, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Yann (talk) 22:49, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support I admit I liked the colors in Sting's edit more but Moroder's works for me as well. Daniel Case (talk) 05:45, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 06:28, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Excellent, well done my friend --The Photographer (talk) 16:31, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Agree with Sting that snow is a bit grey. - Benh (talk) 18:48, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @Moroder: IMO Sting's corrections were too strong, but I tend to think that yes, the snow is really grey. --Jebulon (talk) 22:58, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Grey snow is not acceptable, this is a common beginner mistake, check this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-H2IbHluLg. -- RTA 04:53, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per other opposers, the snow should be white. --Ivar (talk) 05:19, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment "It should be white" but it is never white --Wolfgang Moroder (talk) 10:42, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - I think that link and this one could help you to rebuild from raw a alt version. --The Photographer (talk) 11:54, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - See the video. Or keep not learning. -- RTA 14:05, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      - It shouldn't be of course pure white, but it shouldn't either be almost medium grey. Sting (talk) 15:11, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support It isn't grey, it only might appear so. --Tremonist (talk) 13:39, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- With a threshold level of about 170-180, you're right, it isn't grey: it is almost medium grey:
  
  175 level grey
  That's exactly how half of the well litten parts of the snow (not in shadow) really is in that image. Lol. Tremonist, you're really funny. Sting (talk) 15:11, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Some people will see almost gray, but I see it almost white. :P --The Photographer (talk) 17:02, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"almost gray": yes, sure... Sting (talk) 20:00, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

gray is a color similar to grey and similar to white --The Photographer (talk) 17:47, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I see snow is big issue (again). Tight crop above. --Mile (talk) 08:42, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support love Italy !!--Pava (talk) 01:19, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative edit

I edited the photo using the JPEG to bring the a white snow, if the author want, he can send me the raw file to a more properly edition. -- RTA 04:53, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your effort but the colour of the mountain and sky has also changed, it looks washed out. This is a stiched picture on jpg files plus I have done also some cloning work. Still I insist that the rather gray colour is natural. It might be the effect of UV light on high altitude (2200 mslm). Snow is "never" white --Wolfgang Moroder (talk) 06:48, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Wolfgang, do what you want, this is not a good photo, seems to be a sunglasses view, and what you are saying do not makes sense, see several examples of top of the mountain: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5], none of them have this grey feeling. -- RTA 14:05, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I preffer the natural version, also this version has a hard sky noise artifact ( Se the middle top just in peak top). A rebuild from RAW file could be the best practice --The Photographer (talk) 11:49, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Ow really? "if the author want, he can send me the raw file to a more properly edition." ~~Smart Aleck~~ The Photographer should be reading more, and talking less... -- RTA 14:05, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Info New version uploaded. --Ivar (talk) 13:06, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I like the above version more. --Tremonist (talk) 13:40, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Not bad Ivar, but you lightened the image by sliding the levels right slider to the left. That's not a wise way when you already have some (few in this case) pure white pixels in the image like here as you will loose information very fast in the highlights. This leaded also to reveal, by posterization, a color problem with green, already present in the original file on the snowy slope at the right of the mountain and along the tracks below, around the houses. Sting (talk) 19:04, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative 2 edit

Info --You were all right: my previous edit let the sky be too saturated (good to look back to images one or two days later). Because this page became popular, I uploaded a reworked version under a new name: the snow is the same as in my first one, about 10 points brighter than in Ivar's version and without burned areas. Improved contrast and sharpening compared to the original; sky slightly more vivid; reworked noise in it, but because the original used jpeg images to make the panorama, that's the weak part of the image: color/luminosity patches are still visible. Sting (talk) 20:00, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support — Julian H.^✈ 11:46, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Ivar (talk) 05:40, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Pokéfan95 (talk) 00:06, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:24, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I wanna know what white is, I wanna feel what white is. I know @Moroder: can show me, I don't know if you can face it again, maybe it gonna take a little time, you only need rebuild it from RAW. --The Photographer (talk) 14:09, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I gotta take a little time, a little time to think things over, I better read between the .... manuals --Wolfgang Moroder (talk) 20:04, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed results:

Result: 16 support, 4 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /--Mile (talk) 07:59, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Natural

The chosen alternative is: File:Sasplat Dënt Innerkofler Grohman Cin Dëic y Saslonch dal Col Rodela.jpg