Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:Kosovo map-en.svg

Image:Kosovo map-en.svg, not featured edit

Info created by Sémhur - uploaded by Sémhur - nominated by Sémhur --Sémhur 11:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This place is about the quality of this picture. This is not the place for a debate between pro- and anti- independence of Kosovo. Sémhur 12:50, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Sémhur 11:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, in before the "Kosovo isn't independent"! opposers. --Aqwis 12:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's right ; I have added a comment. Sémhur 12:50, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support great. DocteurCosmos 14:51, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support RBID 15:56, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The names on the map are neither in English (as the name implies) nor in Albanian (reality on the ground). --Dori - Talk 16:56, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This map should be in english (I don't speak Albanian). As it's said on the picture's description page, my sources were this map from UN, and Demis map, both in english ; and Wikipédia-EN of course. But if you see bad translation names, or if you know better sources, please tell me and I will correct it. Sémhur 17:21, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There should be an albanian language version as there is a french version and I'm sure that if Dori provide us the translation of the name it will be made--Kimdime69 19:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes of course, if someone give me albanian translations, I'll be able to do a map in this language. Sémhur 08:28, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
SupportI hope that one day wee will have this kind of maps for all countries--Kimdime69 19:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Question Ce que toi et user:Sting faites est impressionnant (je ne vote pas seulement car je suis trop fainéant pour vérifier l'exactitude des dessins), et je trouve que la carte ressemble à celles de Sting. Vous vous connaissez ? Benh 22:03, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Réponse donnée sur la page de discussion. Sémhur 19:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Impressive. Durova 01:01, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There's two minor... oddities: The last e in Podujeve (Podujevë?) is greyed out - I think features that are within the country should be black, and the text should (ideally) be moved so as to allow this. Likewise, the first half of the word "Kortinik" in "Kortinik Mountains" and the p of Kopaonik. This is opinion. Adam Cuerden 19:25, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, part of the "a" of "Klina" is simply not there. In any case, these are minor, easily fixed issues that don't affect that you've done a great job in the main. Adam Cuerden 19:30, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well seen ! I don't know why "Klina" was smaller than other labels, and with a truncated "a". But I corrected it. And I moved a bit "Podujevo" (it's this orthograph in the English Wikipedia, not Podujevë, so I changed this). About the colors of the labels, there all blacks. But I have added a translucent layer outside of Kosovo, to bring out the country, so they looks grey. May be it can seems odd ; I hope its still readable. Sémhur 19:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Clear and clean map like Sémhur knows how to draw. The half-tone layer which highlights the subject is a good idea but may be all the names should have been put above it. It's just a matter of taste. Sting 13:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Nickel comme d'habitude ! Ayack 17:14, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support good image
Support Very high standard of work. Freedom to share 21:36, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Now that the oddities are fixed. --WikiWookie 09:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose First of all, author should decide if he wants to use English, Albanian or Serbian names. A bit of Albanian, a bit of Serbian and a bit of English is not acceptable (for usage in articles, not to mention featured picture... they ought to be perfect). Next, by having just a glance at the map, I saw town Dakovica which simply does not exist (both in Albanian, Serbian or English).. there might be more inaccuracies. Further more, subject is very controversial (ATM probably the most controversial there is), and having this map elected right now (and in this version) is a political statement (yes, it is, no matter what you say), and will have political dimension which I think that we should avoid on Commons. If this map was some awesome and unseen masterpiece of art and whatnot, maybe, but it's not.. it's just a vector map with dimmed portions, and not-very-carefully entered locations (made in a hurry.. so there might be even wrongly placed towns). -- Obradovic Goran 12:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment -- Dakovica does exist, as Đakovica on Wikipedia, with the stroke D. I think the map should be referring to this city. --typhoonchaser 14:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I want this map to be in English, but there is not English names for all the towns of Kosovo. So, for the english map of Kosovo, I have took the titles of the WP-en articles (see en:Wikipedia:Naming_conflict#Proper_nouns). But if you know sources with sure English names, please provide it to me, I will update this map. And as I said, if you give me Serbians or Albanians labels, in cyrillic or roman alphabet, I can do maps in this languages.
Yes Typhoonchaser, it is en:Dakovica. But, as it's only a redirect, I've modified the "D" in "Đ"
there might be more inaccuracies, there might be even wrongly placed towns : thanks for your deep scrutiny, as I see, not "made in a hurry"...
At least, you can conceive the Kosovo as a province of Serbia, or as an independent state, in fact its still a map ok Kosovo.

Oppose --Sasa Stefanovic • 13:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Could you give your reasons for this opposite vote, please ? Sémhur 14:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose --Dzordzm 15:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC) This is a political statement masquerading as a featured image candidate, if for no other reason then for using the international boundary symbol to demarcate the border to Serbia/the rest of Serbia (depending on how you see it). Wikimedia strives to have a worldwide view which at this point is far from settled. In a year or two things might be clearer (or not), or at least one could say that you can't wait forever to draw maps, but right now this map is simply a personal cause celebre. --Dzordzm 15:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support -LadyofHats 17:42, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ - For a map, it is the most important to be accurate, and only then to be beautiful. This map is very beautiful (I have only a few objections - a few names along the border are in two shades of gray like Koritnik, and some river names are needlessly upside down like Ibar or Sitnica). However, the border between Kosovo and the rest of Serbia is made in exactly the same way as between Serbia and Albania (or between other countries on the map), this creates an impression that Kosovo is a country, and that is not accurate. Nikola 20:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - strong opose. This is pure case of pushing political agenda and map is not even accurate. --JustUser 21:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Per User:Dzordzm. --Pokrajac 22:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, per most of the opposes above. The technical details aside, this image simply doesn't display reality. --Filip (§) 22:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose M!cki ^talk 22:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose --Djordjes 23:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC) Now is ok. --Djordjes 20:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The image is nice, but it is POV because of border with Serbia. --BokicaK 08:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC) I don't have a reason to oppose now. --BokicaK 11:45, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as others, my opose vote is becouse that problem with borders --Jovanvb 08:29, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment by the author : I understand the PoV of the Serbians people ; so I have removed the Kosovo boundaries to neutralize this map. Now, there are only the internationally uncontested borders. I have also put the labels more readable. Sémhur 09:23, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- You should correct only Kosovo-Serbia border, not borders with Albania, Montenegro and Macedonia. They are recognized state borders. --BokicaK 12:45, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes. The boundaries are to be shown, but Kosovo isn't to be separated from Serbia with more than one dash-dash line that is less noticeable than the other border dash-dot-dash lines. Just slight background color difference and stronger boundaries of Serbia and other countries without Kosovo would be as well good. No need of notifying me on my user page. I'm observing this one. Michael { ^{t^a_lk} _} 18:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I have to say, this is completely neutral. But I still don't like it - now it appears that Kosovo is a joint territory of Serbia and Albania or whatever - I believe that a better version, equally neutral, could be made. Nikola 22:58, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment I have added Kosovo borders again, with keys "Recognized borders", and "Disputed border". I hope it's the good one ! Sémhur 09:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Beyond silence 10:57, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Enough has been already said. Michael { ^{t^a_lk} _} 17:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose----László (talk) 22:42, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support No reason to oppose anymore. Thanks --Filip (§) 14:35, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Now I don't see a reason not to change my vote. Michael { ^{t^a_lk} _} 14:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Ordinary Serg!o 22:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

result: 14 support, 9 oppose, 0 neutral => not featured. Mywood 12:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support--P@d@w@ne 20:51, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]