Commons:Featured picture candidates/Log/September 2006


This is an archive for Commons:Featured picture candidates page debates and voting.
The debates are closed and should not be edited.


Image:Eiffeltornet.JPG - not featured edit

2 support, 8 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 05:50, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Eilean donan castle2.JPG - not featured edit

 Comment I have uploaded a new image, that don't lean. If I tried to get it more straight it leaned the other way, so it is as straight as I could get it.Moralist 16:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
5 support, 4 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 05:48, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Cat.jpg - not featured edit

Is it actully roadkill??? Doesn't look like it. It looks like its just being lazy and yawning --Digon3 12:25, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is it actully roadkill??? --Digon3 16:58, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 11 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 21:03, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Cape Disappointment1.jpg edit

Image:Innsbrucklarge.jpg - featured edit

Innsbruck by Night.

I don't get what you mean to say. I use the word 'resolution' in the sense of 'pixels per cm' (or 'dpi' or whatever), which I beleive is the original and correct sense. A bit confusing this ambiguous terminology. Anyway, what I meant is that that the picture only works when viewed big, not in the size that is normal for Wikipedia (and most other websites). Full-screen it is beautiful, though. DirkvdM 09:51, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The term "full resolution" means that every pixel of the screen corresponds to exactly one pixel of the picture. You can judge the value of a picture only when seeing it this way. Even the best picture can look bad when compressed to a thumbnail. The suitability of a photograph for Wikipedia is not of primary importance in the Commons, and even the featured picture discussions in the Wikipedia (the English or German one) never refers to the quality of thumbnails, since it always only takes one mouse-click to get the whole picture. Roger McLassus 10:41, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is not a thumbnail. It's about the size pictures will mostly be shown on the Internet. DirkvdM 04:33, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
10 support, 1 oppose, 1 neutral → featured Roger McLassus 20:45, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Evening at Dodwell-Rixon Pass.jpg - not featured edit

2 support, 4 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:44, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Wfm area51 map en.png - not featured edit

comment Something I didnt mention earlier because I didnt know at the time of nomination is its Featured on en.Wikipedia. The reasoning behind nominating this map compared to many others is this one has such a significantly detailed legend/key. The description on the image page explains why certain details are there and other information is omitted. Gnangarra 07:06, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If it is a good example of how a map should be made, which can be used by others as a template to make more maps, then I would agree. But the legend isn't very detailed at all. Most )commercial) maps show many more features. The reason is there aren't that many features in that area (despite the size). A map of a place that has many differnt landscapes in a limited area, would make more sense, such as is the case for many areas in New Zealand, for example. DirkvdM 10:02, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just so I understand you right, you don't believe that any map of this region could be FP quality, because "there aren't that many features in that area"? QuartierLatin1968 00:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
But this isnt a map of topographical features its a map showing military facilities, and associated civillian area. I'm sure NZ doesnt have such an expanse of military facilities. Even if it does they arent where near as notiable as the Mythical area 51. Gnangarra 10:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know how that area is mythical (does anyone?) and the map doesn't clarify that either, so that doesn't count. I admit I don't have any experience in mapmaking, so I'm not sure if I should judge maps. Then again, is it only meant for the incrowd or as a pat on the back for the effort? What I meant to say was that one reason a map could qualify as special is that it shows many aspects of map making. But the area is too boring to qualify for that. The presence of a military area is not that special and size doesn't matter. However, it does have Death Valley on it. One of the few areas in the world that are below sea level. But the map doesn't reveal that. The height is indicated, but not quantified in the legend. So the map shows two special features but doesnt reveal that. Big oops. Bad map. DirkvdM 17:04, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I just did a survey on the ref desk and it seems the area is quite well known outside the US. DirkvdM 06:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
7 support, 7 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 20:43, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Flower jtca002.jpg - not featured edit

It needs a name so that it can be identified and use properly in a article. However, oppose just on the basis that it has no name is a little harsh, so I'm changing mine to neutral. --Digon3 18:43, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
7 support, 7 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 20:42, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Lycaena virgaureae.JPG - featured edit

15 support, 1 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 20:41, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Grand Canyon South Rim Sunset.jpeg - not featured edit

Would it be better if I cropped it and got rid of the dark corner and some of the sky? --Digon3 01:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
4 support, 6 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Bryce Canyon Hoodoos.jpg - featured edit

10 support, 4 oppose, 1 neutral → featured Roger McLassus 20:38, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Winchester cathedral flags.jpg - featured edit

What curvature? I dont see any curvature(they look straight). --Digon3 01:14, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There is an ever so slight curvature, but that only adds to the effect. To me the main criteria here are beauty and educational value and the curvature doens't hurt either. Many people are too focused on technicalities. Take the rule of thirds. You may find that many beautiful pictures follow this rule, but that doens't mean one can reverse that. If one day I find that most girls I like are blondes, then that doensn't mean that I should reject all brunettes from then on. :) Beauty is instinctive and true art is often even based on breaking the rules in stead of following them. DirkvdM 10:16, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The curvature is most notable if you photograph big building from close distance. Or if you photograph ... pretty much anything with short focal length (very high FOV)
For me, if the image have high resolution, the important areas are sharp and it is not overexposed or underexposed - then the technical quality is perfect. --Leclerc 16:22, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Pluke 09:37, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Dirk, yeah, sure, there seems to be a lot of double standards around here... but one thing is for sure, a general lack of knowledge in distinguishing the elements of photography. Personal taste is no substitute for informed critisism. I have no problem with either one, but they are two different things --Tomascastelazo 16:51, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Of course. The question is just which one counts most. DirkvdM 04:29, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
6 support, 2 oppose, 4 neutral → featured Roger McLassus 20:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:ColosseumAtEvening.jpg - not featured edit

Comment: I guess you will most probably see much more people in front of this building most of the time than after this heavy rain. So I regard the image less crowded than normally and I personally like the wedding people. Normally I tend to get rid of people on my photos but in this situation I regard the people as a special feature. The only problem I have with these people is that they become quite small when using the 20mm lens and are at this distance. Andreas Tille 07:05, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
5 support, 6 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:36, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Burgwald 025.jpg - not featured edit

Exactly this is what I read in John Shaws "Landscape Photography" and IMHO this picture is a very good example that it is true. But what makes it featured then. Where can I find the good old rules of composition like Golden ratio etc. The leaning tree in the foreground is distracting in my eyes. So except that I feel the good smell of fresh air I can not make anything out of this picture. Andreas Tille 20:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
11 support, 7 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:SAAB9000.jpg - not featured edit

2 support, 7 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 20:33, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:1995-SAAB900T-front.jpg - not featured edit

2 support, 7 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:32, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Tulipa fosteriana.jpg - not featured edit

* Support Nice colours, sharp, flower named --Sunshade1 20:10, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

4 support, 5 oppose, 3 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 20:31, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Uvsun trace big.jpg - not featured edit

9 support, 5 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 20:30, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:DirkvdM cienfuegos palacio de valle.jpg - not featured edit

It is grainy because it is a night shot. For that same reason a bigger image size will not help. DirkvdM 13:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What makes you doubt it's the moon? DirkvdM 17:13, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is very bright for the moon --Digon3 18:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's a long exposure. :) Look at the reflection on the water. And obviously it isn't the Sun. Anyway, I know, I took the photo. :) Actually, it's supposed to be part of the beauty of the photo - a moonlit roof terrace. But if that isn't obvious enough, maybe I should have put a couple in love at one of the tables to underline that. :) DirkvdM 20:21, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Its also very small only 837x1126, needs around 2000x1000. I still dont like the moon in this photo, sorry --Digon3 01:00, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I get that point now and it's a good lesson (don't assume the viewer sees what you know), but how could you make the moon recognisable? Without heavy zoom it's just a dot. If the reflection would have been more visible that would certainly have helped, I suppose. DirkvdM 18:58, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps combine multiple exposures so that the moon is a bright disk instead of a big flare..? Not sure :). --Thenickdude 05:35, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Like I said, without zoom the moon is nothing more than a dot. A common mistake. Anyway, I'm not going back to Cuba just to get this right. :) DirkvdM 18:51, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
1 support, 5 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:29, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Eastern Swallowtail.jpg - not featured edit

3 support, 4 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 20:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Great katsura of wachi01s3000.jpg - not featured edit

2 support, 4 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 20:27, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] 

Image:Olympic Stadium Munich.JPG - not featured edit

1 support, 8 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:26, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] 

Image:Yarra opposite rod laver arena - melbourne.jpg - not featured edit

Yarra opposite rod laver arena - melbourne.jpg
10 support, 6 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:25, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Tulum.JPG - not featured edit

0 support, 4 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:23, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Agasthiyamalai range and Tirunelveli rainshadow.jpg - featured edit

Please use the normal voting symbols. Otherwise errors in counting may happen more easily. Roger McLassus 15:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
9 support, 2 oppose, 1 neutral → featured Roger McLassus 20:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Information Architecture Concept - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 8 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Independencia RMoreaux.jpg - Original nomination edit

this picture is not featured, so what exactly do you want? ;) -- Gorgo 20:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Cancelled (invalid object) Roger McLassus 21:11, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Opened Qur'an.jpg - not featured edit

0 support, 0 oppose (withdrawn) → not featured Roger McLassus 20:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Magnolia eix.jpg - not featured edit

File:Magnolia eix.jpg

2 support, 3 oppose (aborted because of license) → not featured Roger McLassus 20:49, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Rain-drops-on-leaf.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 7 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:53, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Caer.jpg - not featured edit

Blame the English for that! - MPF
Day 7: 0 support, 5 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:54, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Suomijoje.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 8 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:55, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Frozen Lake.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 4 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 20:56, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Bagpiper 06WDBY 011.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 3 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:57, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Petrovaradin and Danube.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 7 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:58, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Capucines rouge et jaunes.jpg - not featured edit

Fleurs de grande Capucine

Day 7: 0 support, 2 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 20:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Mantid Sp.Jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 6 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] 

Image:Vespa animale.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 6 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 21:00, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:California wine grapes 2.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 5 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 21:01, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Cabernet wine barrels.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 6 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 21:02, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Information Architecture Concept - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 8 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 20:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Francesco Hayez 008.jpg - featured edit

Edit: Corrected levels

7 support, 3 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 05:46, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Ant head closeup.jpg - not featured edit

1 oppose (withdrawn) → not featured Roger McLassus 19:34, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Crimson sunset.jpg - not featured edit

2 support, 7 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 09:44, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Dvdiconcover.png - not featured edit

It's used in the templates for copyrighted film ilustrations in the wikipedias that use them, like in en:Image:Enemy at the Gates DVD.jpg. The main pun is that it represent the poster/cover of fictional Free Wiki film, with a design that reminds the one of American Free Willy movie. Vector version is Image:Dvdiconcover.svg. Should I start a new nomination for the svg?
1 support, 5 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 09:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:India roadway map.svg - featured edit

  •  Info created, uploaded and nominated by Planemad
  •  Support The map includes every national highway in India and uses the color scheme defined the wikiproject maps --Planemad 19:21, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. It is a very nice map (I can't speak at all for accuracy since I don't know a thing about Indian roadways). My only negative feeling is that it is very, very busy—there are lots of very small cities indicated which are not on any of the roadways. I would support if it was trimmed to something closer to the minimum information needed to understand the roadway system—at the moment it is so full of information that it is hard to get a sense of what is meant by the big picture, and most of the information is too small to ever been seen unless it was hugely blown up. Also, on the legend, some of the text (the "Disputed" parts) do not seem to be rendering well with Mediawiki's SVG renderer. I find that spacing things out a little better helps with that. --Fastfission 19:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- big work, seems accurate.  Pabix  08:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support — Indeed, it's a lot of work. But I agree with the comment above. If small cities are not included, then it would be great. About the accuracy, I not an expert either. Indon 10:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Author comment The map has been created in such a way that, from the thumbnail, state capitals and major cities can be located. By opening the largest raster version [11], major towns and tourist places can be located. And only by zooming into the vector version, can small towns by located. The places that you see that are not on the road network are places of tourist intrest only. Regarding accuracy, the map can be cross checked with, w:List of National Highways in India, Maps of India website(outdated) or Survey of India map explorer. This map is the only complete national highway map available on the net --Planemad 11:00, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
9 support, 0 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 09:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Boyd's Forest Dragon - (Hypsilurus boydii).jpg - not featured edit

Comments Oops! I checked my original files and, yes, the photo should be upside down... Sorry! --Sam67fr 21:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Change my vote to  Support now it is at the right angle. Prefer the original, as it is a superb example of natural camouflage. - MPF 16:01, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
2 support, 1 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 09:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Wasp pho.jpg - not featured edit

7 support, 6 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 09:39, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:USA grand canyon pano1 AZ.jpg - not featured edit

  •  Info created, uploaded and nominated by Dschwen
Seeing the two other GC nominations further down the page, I thought let's throw a different (mood picture type) photo to the wolves ;-). Please elaborate!

 Support Maybe it's the experience I have with such scenes, but it gives me the wonderful feel of fresh new day, a bit nippy, but I will soon be warmed by the briliant Sun. :) DirkvdM 19:07, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3 support, 4 oppose, 2 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 09:38, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Goats in Eketorp Slott.jpg - not featured edit

 Comment - yes, definitely sheep - MPF 17:45, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose I don't like the composition. Unbalanced. Erina 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support You mean that you don't like the competition? This image is stunning! Admit it or not! Exclamation 16:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral -- colors are great (!!!), composition is original; yet I could not find a point of focus so the sharpness is probably wasted on the wall where I cannot even tell the specific location. I think it would have been better to put the focus on the goats. but then again, would that have taken away from the original idea of having the wall as the main element of attraction? hmm, I am unsure. maybe I will reconsider later! for now I will go with neutral. -- Boereck 09:56, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
2 support, 5 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 09:36, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Amanita caesarea.JPG - featured edit

9 support, 1 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 07:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Empis livida (aka).jpg - featured edit

22 support, 0 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 06:59, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Actun Tunichil Muknal.jpg - not featured edit

2 support, 5 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 06:58, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

summer field - featured edit

summer field

Edit the exif? NOT! The colors it is the end of afternoon (and contrast on hard). The left corner is problem of depth of field. --Luc Viatour 05:16, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
white band on the bottom left corner is a bad crops after correction of the horizon --Luc Viatour 05:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Beautiful color, but I don't the composition -- strong diagonal between the fields leads my eye to totally boring cropped trees instead of the wonderful golden top field, where I should be looking. --che 04:27, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 Neutral IMHO heavy editing of an image is no reason to be not featured. So just finish the editing and remove the white line at left bottom and once you are at it replace the half tree by some sky. If I just put mit thumb on this tree the image looks (even) better. Andreas Tille 06:10, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Beautiful landscape shot, but is it a picture of the flowers? a picture of the fields? Neither one dominates, it does not illustrate as to either landscape or agricultural practice.--Tomascastelazo 17:43, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
18 support, 3 oppose, 2 neutral → featured Roger McLassus 06:56, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Flame tree mali.jpg - featured edit

10 support, 3 oppose, 1 neutral → featured Roger McLassus 10:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image: Caterpillar face.jpg - not featured edit

5 support, 4 oppose, 2 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 09:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Pieniny-map2.png - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 4 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 10:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:MingXiaoling CanYuan.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 0 support, 3 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 10:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Map of Quebec.png - not featured edit

2 support, 3 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 09:27, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Baja coast 3.jpg - not featured edit

  •  Info created by Tomas Castelazo — uploaded by User:tomascastelazo — nominated by Tomascastelazo
  •  Support Tomascastelazo 21:03, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Black & White photograph--Hi-tacks 12:22, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose I see no reason for abandonig colours. Furthermore the picture is too dark and the time of exposure too long. So the moving water looks quite unnatural. Roger McLassus 18:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose - ditto to Roger McLassus, particularly re the long exposure. - MPF 22:06, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose B&W Erina 09:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support I think that cropping out about 1000 lines from the bottom would do it good. --Adamantios 20:53, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Ss181292 19:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC) - I agree with Roger McLassus[reply]
  •  Comment One does not have to like all phototgraphs, that is ok. I welcome criticism, I accept it, but when people opine about photography, they too open up to criticism of their criticism. In this particular case it is obvious, given the reasons you express, that you do not possess the distinctions necessary to distinguish crafstmanship of photography. Read up a bit about judging photography, just like milk, it does the body (and mind) good. --Tomascastelazo 15:47, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment OK, but AFAIK the main purpose of Commons is information, not art. (Ergo: B&W photos=bad. Maybe it is a work of art, I don't know.) Maybe you should post this photo on DeviantArt, or something like that. :) --Erina 11:12, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Erina, the comment is not about this photograph, but about the criticism I read about and the disqualifications of photographs on the basis that they are b&w (and other bogus reasons). My point is that if people are going to judge, to do so based on informed criteria and to state the reasons so the photographer can thus improve his techniques/motives. To criticize the critics is not very popular around here, but IMO, a lot of good, informative, technically good pictures get disqualified due to incompetence and thus deprive this effort of better participation. A critic has the duty to educate her/himself in the discipline she/he criticizes. At the same time, lots of "pretty" pictures get selected that have absolutelty no value due to the same shortcomings. The criteria is very inconsistent. Anyone with a basic knowledge of photography (and I am not talking about just any camera owner, as if owning a camera makes a photographer) would laugh at this forum. I believe that Wikipedia is a noble effort and my contributions are focused in bringing a little understanding of the medium. Problem is that I feel that people around here just do not like blunt talk. I quote Mark Twain: One mustn't criticize other people on grounds where he can't stand perpendicular himself. - A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court --Tomascastelazo 12:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
2 support, 5 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 09:26, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Fortepian - mechanizm angielski.svg - featured edit

11 support, 0 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 09:25, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Fortepian - mechanizm wiedeński.svg - featured edit

9 support, 0 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 09:24, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Sveti Nikola.jpg - not featured edit

I added the info on the image's site. Is it ok or would you like any more details? Regards. --Tone 22:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's ideal, thanks! Changed vote to support - MPF 23:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
6 support, 4 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 09:23, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Venice 056.jpg - not featured edit

  •  Info created by Jikael — uploaded by Jikael — nominated by Jikael - (initialized by Pabix :))
  •  Oppose — Yes, it's a beautiful canal in Venice. If there is a gondola in the canal, then I would support it. Indon 14:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral a nice photo - but i think it is a too high color saturation which makes it kitschy. But that could get changed. --AngMoKio 15:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Good enough as it is, no gondola needed to spoil the view. --Leclerc 16:24, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support - I don't think a gondola is necessary, either - MPF 17:10, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Nice colours, nice play of dark and light. And no gondola (now that would make it kitschy). Plus details like the reflection and the door (and I even like the washing line). Only the composition could have been a bit better, but that's nitpicking DirkvdM 18:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Luc Viatour 04:30, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Strong oppose Not a representative pic of Venice and ditto to Indon the gondolas are missing and I agree it is high color saturated (look at the blue-white-red flag), I have been there two weeks ago and I took 150 pics, I can upload some examples of representative pics if necessary. Moroever, the highest size of the pic is ugly, check by yourself.--Hi-tacks 12:11, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's not blue white red. That's the Peace flag, and color semms quite ok for being sunlit. --Jollyroger 20:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Info It's the end of a small Canal in Venice where there are never gondolas. This pic show the not commercial face of venice (the local life style)with you to appreciate the relevance of it..--Jikael 15:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Venice is great... But this is not a great picture, IMO. --Jod-let 13:34, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral. I am absolutely opposed to those who think that a gondola is necessary. Gondolas are tourist traps. But this photo needs a bit less saturation and more sharpness.  Pabix  13:57, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • To be honest, if this is a voting for an artistic photography contest, then I will rate it above average. Not high because of too much saturation. However, there is non-technical guideline in this voting process, that the picture should be informative. Gondolas make this picture more information. Another element is people, if you want to show local llife style as Jikael mentioned. What so special about an empty canal in Venice? Indon 14:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      No. On Commons, we don't judge on encyclopedic value. This is not Wikipedia. If you want to judge information, go to the equivalent page on Wikipedia! There are featured pictures candidates on en: too. An image can be featured here and not there, and vice-versa Pabix  16:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      Some people here judge mainly by technical quality, some by encyclopaedic value, some by artistic impression, some by something else maybe ... I think this mean that the encyclopedic value is judged by some people as important factor and it can affect voting results if "encyclopaedic value" is low. --Leclerc 18:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose. No details, it's blurry grainy and blown-out. --Dschwen 16:09, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support no gondolas, please. That's a sad clichè --Jollyroger 20:43, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose The saturation looks pushed which,to me, is wrong for the subject matter. It's not pretty, it's not special in any way, and it doesn't capture backwater Venice all that well. The gondola discussion is a red herring. Masonbarge 13:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support This image makes me wonder where the people are, where the gondolas are and what would be found in the windows and doors, variety of colours appeal. Very interesting. Prefer the cropped version. KenWalker 06:49, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question Why do several people hate the colours here, but most love the colours in the Summer Field photo below (15 down)? To me that one looks a bit fake (though I stil like it). DirkvdM 19:40, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

9 support, 7 oppose, 2 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 09:21, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Wellington.JPG - not featured edit

2 support, 5 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 06:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Koln bell.jpg not featured edit

it was meant to but the other shots were ruined by a group of chinese tourists. I proposed that because I feel the morning sun glow adds a mit of magic to the composition. Any suggestion for improving is welcome --Jollyroger 21:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
biggest of the world and nice light and composition? --Jollyroger 14:48, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral I love the geometry, but for that reason it really should not be tilted. Now that can be remedied, but the overexposure would be more difficult. It has good potential but only just doensn't reach it. DirkvdM 19:25, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
tilted? It is not tilted
slightly tilted to the left. Look at the center piece or at the floor hole. It can be fixed without much loss, I think. Eden2004 13:43, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
3 support, 10 oppose, 3 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 06:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Mountaineers in High Tatry mountains winter.jpg - not featured edit

9 support, 6 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 06:26, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Detailaufnahme Weizenfeld.jpg - featured edit

9 support, 0 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 06:24, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:XN Sympetrum sanguineum w prey 658.jpg - featured edit

Sympetrum sanguineum male with preySympetrum sanguineum male with prey Sympetrum sanguineum male with prey animation

Sympetrum sanguineum male with prey
Sympetrum sanguineum male with prey
  •  Comment I'm surprised about these edits and the additional animation, which isn't a nomination? I'm not sure. These edits aren't my cup of tea very much. But this template is getting funny colorfull... so see my edit on the right. --XN 13:08, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


8 support, 1 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 06:23, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:Sympetrum sanguineum.jpg

Image:Buchenwald-J-Rouard-06.jpg - not featured edit

  •  Info created by Jule Rouard — uploaded by Lviatour — nominated by Fastfission
  •  Support Original photograph from the liberation of Buchenwald, taken by User:Lviatour's father-in-law, released GFDL/CC-BY-SA. Stark, dark, sad, immediate—a scene of horror without being distasteful. The photo is scratched, but I think that only adds to its feeling of authenticity, its gritty realism. I think it's a really beautiful, haunting picture, and I think it's being available under a free license on Commons is truly amazing. --Fastfission 19:35, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Technically, poor composition, sujbect is cropped at wrong places. Informative value poor, does not reflect time-place without explanation. There are a lot of images from the camps that do not need words. --Tomascastelazo 16:44, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment IMHO this is an excelent composition. The "subject" is only a "representative" and 1) does not need to be shown entirely 2) has already lost his dignity and this composition means respecting this human being. This picture is carying a great mood of sadness. It's a snapshot of horror, brutality and inhumanness. I think this is the really subject. For this great composition:
  •  Support --XN 19:01, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, I have to go with XN here. The composition is beautiful, IMO. I think the fact that it is not shown in its entirety makes it even more artistic and provocative. --Fastfission 23:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support very moving and tasteful. Rama 10:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose. I appreciate the historical and emotional value of this photograph, but there are many better pictures, from a technical point of view, at Category:KZ Buchenwald. TheBernFiles 15:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose I suppose this is only a part of the original picture, since I can hardly imagine that the photographer wanted to create an image showing just half a body plus another person's shoes, which makes a very bad composition. Furthermore, as stated above, the information value is rather poor and cannot be improved by using the euphemism "tasteful". Shocking facts deserve shocking pictures that can say "more than a thousand words" - not cropped ones that lack important parts (like the face) in the name of tastefulness. By the way, cutting off the toes is a compositional flaw unrelated to taste. Roger McLassus 17:15, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
4 support, 5 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 10:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Wray Gunn-Porto - Palácio de Cristal-Noites Ritual Rock 2005-02-foto de JPCasainho.jpg - not featured edit

Raquel Ralha from Wray Gunn

2 support, 11 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 10:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Sanctuary.jpg - featured edit

Yellow Day Lilly

11 support, 0 oppose, 1 neutral → featured Roger McLassus 09:52, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Loligo vulgaris.jpg - not featured edit

oh yes :-) Lycaon 18:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
it is, it was meant as a taxonomical illustration. Lycaon 18:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
* Neutral - Low Res. but Photo is nice -Andreas.Didion 19:24, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
* Neutral Really nice picture, but lowres. I'll support if it would be a higher res. --Leclerc 19:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agree: Would rather see live specimen Žena Dhark…·°º•ø®@» 04:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Tomascastelazo Criteria I use to oppose are: wrong license, low res (under 1 Mpx), obvious bad photography (exposure, DOF, sharpness), obvious bad composition (heavy tilt, bad crop) and missing or wrong info (incorrect or missing name). Support if oppose criteria are not met +/- points for rarity. Quite objective imo.
  • @Declic I did not nominate this picture because I know its faults (being the photographer) and although hi res, the quality is not sufficient, yet it got extra point for rarity in my book ;-) Hi res is important. 640x480 pictures are of very little value, while analog images can be scanned with fairly cheap scanners to yield accurate hi res renditions of the original. B.T.W., the picture was not taken in a lab but outside on a ship (RV Belgica) at 6 Beaufort. ;-o
  • We could use a scoring card system, where you assign a number (e.g. from 0 to 5) to several criteria. Summation of the scores will then tell you whether the image is feature or not. Similar systems are widely used in ecological assessments. Lycaon 13:15, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • In this case much of photographs will be disqualified because they were taken at one time or the numerical cameras did not exist. I think "hi res quality" should be considered only lastly. A good camera does not make necessarily a good photograph. Declic 01:01, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • @TheBernFiles The majority of serious contests of animal photographs disqualify the photographs which are not taken in natural environments. The labs photograph is relevant for taxonomic goal but without more and certainly not for FC. Salmo 20:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
12 support, 7 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 07:17, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Chapelle Notre Dame du Chene 5.JPG - not featured edit

5 support, 7 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Crocodylus acutus 04.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 2 oppose, 3 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 05:54, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Crocodylus acutus 03.jpg - not featured edit

2 support, 4 oppose, 2 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 05:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Kazakh shepard with dogs and horse.jpg - not featured edit

3 support, 8 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 05:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:00440.jpg - not featured edit

2 support, 9 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 05:34, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Four Southern Hemisphere Tropical Cyclones (2003).jpg - not featured edit

  • Sorry for the waste of time here (was half-asleep at the time :P ). A comment on the poor connections of the panorama - thats because of the significant time gaps between the satellite passes (and the consequent motion of the clouds).
Day 7: 0 support, 4 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 11:38, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Horse snout.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 9 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:08, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Lake St Peter.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 7 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:17, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Beas river and mountains as seen from Van Vihar, Manali.jpg - not featured edit

Beas river in Manali, India

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 5 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 07:19, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Alcea rosea threeflowers.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 2 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:11, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Rudolph I of Germany - stained glass window.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 2 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Cassilis historical area.jpg - not featured edit

Cassilis Historical Area
Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 3 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 07:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Canada goose flight cropped and NR.jpg - featured edit

16 support, 2 oppose, 1 neutral → featured Roger McLassus 07:36, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:TaErSi2.jpg - not featured edit

1 support, 3 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:35, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Kozolec.jpg - not featured edit

Yes, these are used to dry hay. Sadly, this traditional construction is used less and less due to mechanization. I linked the English WP article, here. Or is there anything else you would like to know? --Tone 11:30, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks; I assumed Kozolec was a place, not the name of the item! Adding "Xxxxx, Gorenjska region, Slovenia" would help (as not too many people are familiar with where Gorenjska region is) - MPF 15:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
3 support, 4 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 07:35, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:The Rest.JPG - not featured edit

  • My suggestion was to withdraw the nomination. This is done by the nominator's statement: "I withdraw my nomination" - not by deleting the template from the list, as was done yesterday by Yovi. Like all nominations also withdrawn ones must afterwards be moved to the archive. I'll do this later and keep the template here for a while to make this point clear to everyone. Roger McLassus 13:24, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment - I'd disagree with that. If a nomination is withdrawn, it should be removed, and nothing recorded in the archive. The archive is for successful and unsuccessful nominations; not for something where the uploader may wish, for whatever reason, to have the pic as if it were never nominated in the first place. - MPF 21:53, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think, your opionion is not the mainstream view. Until now, withdrawals were always handled this way. Furthermore, removing the nomination-template does not delete it. It contiues to exist, but becomes isolated. But if you like, you can start a discussion about this point. Roger McLassus 07:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
1 support, 8 oppose, 1 neutral (withdrawn) → not featured Roger McLassus 13:24, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Hippo pod edit.jpg - featured edit

Left: image for voting, right: original image for comparison (spot the mistake ;-) ).

13 support, 0 oppose, 2 neutral → featured Roger McLassus 06:07, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Golden-Mantled Ground Squirrel, Mount Rainier, July 2006.jpg - featured edit

19 support, 1 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 06:05, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Persian rugs.jpg - not featured edit

File:Persian rugs.jpg File:Persian rugs.jpg

9 support, 7 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 06:04, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Cassilis historical area02.jpg - not featured edit

Cassilis Historical Park
Thanks! :-) And it is the a Historical Area - there's a huge sign telling you so! :-) --Fir0002 www 10:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment - It looks like an FX/FJ Holden, quite suprised the body is still there Gnangarra
  •  Support Nice photo, though the res may be a bit higher (1280x853 is not that great). I wonder how long is that place abandoned... --Leclerc 16:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose — Though the photo is nice and properly taken, I don't think if this deserves FP. Perhaps if the angle is changed that the wreck car is more exposed and the historical area is more visible, then I would vote it as FP. To me, this picture looks only like an ordinary junkyard. Indon 08:54, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral — I'm concerned about the colours particularly around the truck they look altered? Gnangarra 12:17, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I can promise you that no color alteration was made. This effect was achieved by firing a remote flash just out of frame of the picture. The "look" of the picture is a result of HDR tone mapping - personally I find it aesthetic. --Fir0002 www 07:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
5 support, 8 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 06:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Yellow_woolly_bear_caterpillar.jpg - not featured edit

A yellow woolly bear caterpillar.

  •  Comment I think you're right. I tried to ID it myself based on the woolly bear caterpillar, which looks quite similar, but has an orange band. How do I go about renaming the image? DonES 04:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
4 support, 4 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 06:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Conchiglie e biglie.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 6 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 06:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Statue of Peter the great.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 11 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 06:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Eilean donan.JPG - not featured edit

version with improved colours
Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 5 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 06:26, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Cartesian coordinates 3D.svg - not featured edit

Cartesian coordinates 3D

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 6 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 06:27, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Cheetah4.jpg - featured edit

10 support, 0 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 06:25, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:DirkvdM baracoa cabin.jpg - not featured edit

Crippleware? Hadn't heard of that term. This is not it, though, because I want my photos to be for free - for non-commercial use, that is. Since that is not allowed here, I was suggested this alternative. I don't like it, but don't have much of a choice. The basic idea is that if someone is to make money with a photograph, the photographer should be the first to benefit from it. I love the notion of freeware, but then it should be completely free. Pretty much what you say, but for me that also includes 'free of commercial gain'. Still, commecial websites are already using my photographs, so they don't consider them crippled, it seems. DirkvdM 18:59, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say you are wrong in several assumptions. IMO
1. People go to Commons for free files. If they were inclined to buy something, they'd looked elsewhere in first place. They'll either use the file for free even in low res, or find something else.
2. CC-BY-SA and especially FDL are unsuitable for majority of serious commercial/advertising usage. Serious photo buyer would usually need different licence. Photo users who don't care about licences usualy also don't need quality, and if they need higher image size, they would simply upscale your photo, even with the degradation!
I sell some of my photos here with stock agencies (see eg. Image:Tea leaves steeping in a zhong čaj 05.jpg), the photos here under free license and there under royalty-free license are the same resolution, and IMO presence on Commons don't affect the sales at all. --Wikimol 20:07, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
4 support, 9 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 06:24, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Hong kong bruce lee statue.jpg - not featured edit

2 support, 8 opposel → not featured Roger McLassus 06:23, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Brooklyn Bridge Postdlf.jpg - not featured edit

2 support, 4 oppose, 2 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 06:20, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Sunset at Torrey Pines State Beach CA.JPG - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 14 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 10:05, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Echinocactus_ingens2.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 4 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 10:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Kobe port island02s3200.jpg - not featured edit

(UTC)

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 8 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 10:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gasometer - not featured edit

Gasometer (old gas holder)

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 5 oppose, 3 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 06:27, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Autumn mountain trail.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 2 oppose, 2 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 07:07, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Bridge at skansen.JPG - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 7 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 06:23, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Waterlily.jpg - not featured edit

  •  Info created by Jmbc2 — uploaded by Jmbc2 — nominated by Jmbc2
  •  Oppose. 1500x1108 and just 176 KB shows. Heavy JPEG artifacts! The focus is soft, and the lighting washes out all detail in the flower pod. --Dschwen 18:55, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Have a look of how is made a jpeg, and you will see why the first part of your comment is irrelevant. the preceding unsigned comment is by Jmbc (talk • contribs)
      • Sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about. --Dschwen 20:01, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • A jpeg file size have nothing to do with the quality of the picture. In a jpeg, you loose quality if you decide it (you can have all the pixels from the original picture if you select 100% quality when you create the file). Also, you have a small size with a good quality if the engine which created the file is good. Typically, the processors within the digital cameras are bad because they are slow, and they have to produce a result quickly. They produce big files because they have not enough time to optimize. And a good software engine (like Gimp) can produce good quality pictures with raisonably small files, because a powerfull PC is behind. It's why to say '1500x1108 and just 176 KB shows' is irrelevant.
        • Oh, boy. Your insight into JPEG encoding must fairly limited if you think there is no correlation between filesize and quality. --Dschwen 11:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • Sorry chaps, you make some confusion about jpeg. Just google 'jpeg', read carefully what you'll get, and then take care of what you write. "1500x1108 and just 176 KB shows" is definitely a non sense in image compression. the preceding unsigned comment is by Jmbc (talk • contribs)
          • My favourite combination, patronizing and clueless.. --Dschwen 17:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
          • With any lossy compression format like jpg the file size compared to the image dimension is absolutely correlational! At the file size you uploaded, uncompressed it would be at least 4.76 MB depending on color depth. To get a jpeg down to 176 KB (28x reduction!) means you had to have set the quality quite low. Even a picture of a sky would not compress that greatly without obvious artifacts, let alone a picture full of sharp color variations like a flowering plant. But please tell me I don't know what I'm talking about either. I've only been using the format since 1994. Talshiarr 21:02, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • You always loose quality, even at 100%. And not much can be optimized in JPEG compression. Marc Mongenet 14:08, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Strong oppose — Picture is too soft and yes, JPEG artefacts are everywhere. Indon 22:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Artifacts and resolution. This picture has potential. Please upload a better version, if possible. --Adamantios 18:53, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose but would support a version with better resolution -LadyofHats 22:59, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Day 7: 0 support, 4 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 06:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Dead sea newspaper.jpg - not featured edit

2 support, 4 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 08:02, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Poumatua2.jpg - featured edit

13 support, 2 oppose, 1 neutral → featured Roger McLassus 08:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Skylab-KSC-73P-341HR.jpg - not featured edit

3 support, 12 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:59, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:LOC Brooklyn Bridge and East River 8.png - not featured edit

1 support, 6 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:58, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Aquila spinogaster (African Hawk Eagle).jpg - not featured edit

3 support, 4 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:54, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Girl with styrofoam swimming board.jpg - featured edit

The photo is made with f/1.8 so of course you have only a small area that is in focus - but in this photo it is exactly the face of that girl and that is how it was most likely meant to be. Such a pic is not easy to make and for sure it isnt just a snapshot. --AngMoKio 13:06, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
11 support, 4 oppose, 1 neutral → featured Roger McLassus 07:52, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Alstroemeria pod opening.jpg - not featured edit

5 support, 4 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:50, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Argentine horned frog (Ceratophrys ornata).jpg - not featured edit

6 support, 4 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 07:48, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Ocean City Ferris Wheel.jpg - not featured edit

7 support, 6 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Pepsi in India.jpg not featured edit

Well, if anything it's a commentary on the impact of first-world products in a third-world country; I doubt Pepsi would use this image as an ad. See Pepsi in India on Wikipedia. TheBernFiles 06:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support - Actually, the pic contains 2 ads, but the whole image would not work as an ad.--Javierme 16:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose I like the idea, but actually there's missing the kick norro 19:54, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral. Nice juxtaposition of poverty and first world branding, but I fail to see how the image comments on the impact of first-world products. Is the woman poor because of Pepsi? Sorry, but this smells a little of POV and using this image in Pepsi in India is a bit questionable. --Dschwen 20:11, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose — If the subject is the women then the signs are too dominant, if the subject is the signs then they are cut, if the subject is suppose to be both then its POV, POV implies that Pepsi is cause of this women being poor- thinking maybe it should e Nominated for Deletion or at least be renamed. Also theres no release from the women to use her in image. Gnangarra 06:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
there is no need for a permission, since she is barely recognizable (face almost completely covered, low res, ...) -- Gorgo 12:50, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Even if we consider that bothe the woman and the signs are main subjects of this picture, it does not imply that this woman is poor due to the impact of of first-world products. That POV is the uploader's interpretation, but not necesarily the creators neither any viewers. Other viewers may understand that proximity does not imply causality. This images are powerful symbols of concepts that contrast by its proximity (big companies market economy and poverty in India)--Javierme 19:41, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
2 support, 7 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 07:46, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Cat in tree03.jpg - not featured edit

Cat stuck in a tree
2 support, 8 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:45, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Orion Nebula - Hubble 2006 mosaic 18000.jpg - featured edit

yes, the picture is very large 18000 x 18000px 2,43GB decompressed! Very very long to open, but very very beautiful!--Luc Viatour 05:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
18000x18000x24bit=972Mb. How did you get 2.43Gb? --Leclerc 16:08, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I have write too quickly! Converted into Tif it is exactly 949Mo already enormous! --Luc Viatour 05:34, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Can the warning be put above the pic, rather than below it? - currently it isn't visible until one scrolls down, and one might already have clicked on the pic by then. - MPF 18:13, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
11 support, 0 oppose, 2 neutral → featured Roger McLassus 06:51, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:StPetersBasilicaEarlyMorning.jpg - not featured edit

1 support, 5 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 06:50, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Salt lake city county bldg.jpg - not featured edit

Edit1. Removed perspective

Day 7: 0 support, 3 oppose, 3 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 06:58, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:Official Portrait- President George Walker Bush, 43rd President of the United States, Republican - DPLA - 7482eac0e113bf03014d1686a3733f97.jpeg

Image:Jezero Sadska zapad.jpg - not featured edit

The sunset on the Sadská lake, near town Sadská, region Nymburk, country Czech Republic, Europe

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 8 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Diuris 03 gnangarra.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 2 oppose, 2 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 07:01, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moss in bloom - not featured edit

Moss in bloom

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 6 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:02, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Statue-Of-Liberty.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 7 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 09:40, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Coprinus Plicatilis.jpg - not featured edit

Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 6 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 18:41, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Singapore Zoo Tigers.jpg - not featured edit

5 support, 5 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 05:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Four_pulleys.svg - featured edit

Four pulleys

8 support, 0 oppose neutral → featured Roger McLassus 05:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Zipper animated.gif - featured edit

animated zipper

22 support, 0 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 05:47, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Interchange near Frankfurt airport as seen from an aircraft.JPG - not featured edit

2 support, 9 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 05:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Cyclone Catarina from the ISS on March 26 2004.JPG - featured edit

    •  Comment that could easily be changed on any other storm pic just by a horizontal flip :-). Not enough of the coastline visible to identify it easily as Brazil, either. - MPF 18:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
5 support, 0 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 05:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Pregnant woman black and white shadows.jpg - not featured edit

Pregnant woman

4 support, 10 oppose, 3 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 13:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Nymphalis urticae

12 support, 4 oppose → featured Roger McLassus 13:04, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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2 support, 5 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 13:03, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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6 support, 6 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 13:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Comment The darkness can be easily improved with value curve with The Gimp, but sharpness has not good solution. I've use a smart sharping method and trying to get it more sharp results are even worse, so I think there's no solution for this appart from return to Inarijarvi again and retake the picture with proper aperture and tripod, so far out of my hand for now... :-( Francisco M. Marzoa 13:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
1 support, 2 oppose, 3 neutral, nomination withdrawn → not featured Roger McLassus 14:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Comment Why composition is boring? Just to see if I learn something with this. Thanks in advance. 213.4.20.55 10:52, 28 September 2006 (UTC) (That was mine! Francisco M. Marzoa 12:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC))[reply]
    •  Comment The Subject, i guess, should be the whirling water. Its placed in the middle of the picture. Its much more interesting when its not centered. When its placed on the upper left for example, then there would be more forest ground on the picture and that gives you more dimension. Another thing is the framing. Especially the trees and the diffuse lights are disturbing the subject to much. Simonizer 12:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Quite nice - but nothing more. Roger McLassus 13:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose. Not my cup of tea, looks to arbitrary. Full size looks horrible by the way, like an attempt at sharpening a blurry pic. You do realize that using f/20 doesn't make a whole lot of sense? The maximum sharpness point of your lens is probably closer to f/6! Higher f numbers increase the circle of confusion. --Dschwen 14:19, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment Dschwen, you have it backwards. The higher the f stop the smaller the aperture, the lower the f stop the larger the aperture. The circle of confusion increases as the aperture increases, an f1.4 for example, yields a large aperture and a large circle of confusion and shallow depth of field, an f20 represents a small aperture and therefore a smaller circle of confusion and large depth of field. The rule is the smaller the aperture the larger depth of field and viceversa. Furthermore, most lenses are optimized at f8. An aperture of f20, as in this pic, is one and a half stop past the "nominal" optimal aperture but would not really make a difference on overall sharpness in the picture. If it is blurry it would be more the result of either bad focus o camera movement.--Tomascastelazo 02:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment It isn't arbitrary and at full resolution it doesn't look sharp, but neither as bad as a superlative "horrible" I think. BTW it has not been digitally sharpening. On the aperture you're probably right, I was not very careful with that and probably that exposure values were full automatic or stablished for a previous picture and I didn't adjust them. Thanks for the link, it seems to be very interesting, but I still think your spider could look beter with a higher f value!... ;-P. Francisco M. Marzoa 15:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
3 support, 4 oppose, nomination withdrawn → not featured Roger McLassus 17:42, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Day 7: 1 support (nominator), 2 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 14:17, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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3 support, 10 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 13:41, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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was never featured Roger McLassus 13:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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4 support, 1 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured Roger McLassus 07:01, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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3 support, 5 oppose → not featured Roger McLassus 07:00, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]