Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives November 06 2020

Consensual review edit

File:Rostral_column_South._Figure_of_the_sea_God.jpg edit

 

  • Nomination The figure of the sea God at the southern Rostral column. Birzhevaya square, near the Palace bridge, Vasileostrovsky district, Saint Petersburg --Александр Байдуков 02:18, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •   Comment Please reduce the exposure correction. There is a strong halo between monument and sky. --Augustgeyler 06:25, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Good quality. --Im Fokus 23:51, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Oppose I disagree. Strong halo effect by overdone exposure correction --Augustgeyler 10:28, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Oppose No, the halo effect is too much. Rodhullandemu 10:59, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
  •   Question Where's the strong halo effect you all are seeing? -- Ikan Kekek 19:09, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment Either side of the column. Rodhullandemu 22:58, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment I marked them on the image. --Augustgeyler 11:34, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment Thanks, I see it now. -- Ikan Kekek 13:31, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
  •   Oppose A good photo, of course, but the halo effect is too much, please reduce it. --Aristeas 12:22, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose →   Declined   --Augustgeyler 19:54, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

File:Imambara_inside_the_Residency-Lucknow-Uttar_Pradesh-DSC_0001.jpg edit

 

  • Nomination This is the ruins of a roofless Imambara inside the Residency in Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh. --Dey.sandip 17:24, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •   Support Good quality; nice composition. --Mr.choppers 01:47, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Oppose Verticals to be straightened, see Image guidelines --Palauenc05 18:51, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support The symmetry makes it a good composition and a good depiction of the subject, maybe even likely better than if the perspectives were corrected IMO. In some case rules have to be broken, this is that kind of case. Christian Ferrer 09:32, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Oppose Too distorted and to tight crop below. -- Spurzem 10:37, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Oppose Perspective distortion --Jakubhal 21:05, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support per others. -- Ikan Kekek 04:02, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
  •   Weak support with Christian Ferrer. --Augustgeyler 12:09, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose →   Promoted   --Augustgeyler 19:55, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

File:Mille_Miglia_2020_partenza_N_14_Lancia_Lambda_spider_Casaro_in_Viale_Venezia_a_Brescia.jpg edit

 

  • Nomination Ready for departure at the Mille Miglia 93th edition 2020 number 14. --Moroder 04:00, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •   Support Good quality.--Agnes Monkelbaan 05:26, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Oppose main parts of the car are not in focus. --Augustgeyler 06:25, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
  • It does look a bit soft. Is the focus on the man in the background rather than the car?--Peulle 07:38, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment Yes. The man is way sharper than the middle of the car. --Augustgeyler 10:09, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Oppose That's what I thought as well. Missed shot, then.--Peulle 13:28, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak   Support. Focus not perfectly on the car, but regarding the high resolution still acceptable and useable sharpness. --Smial 09:59, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Oppose The car should actually be a bit sharper. But what bothers me a lot more is the older man with the mask hanging down behind the car. The photographer would only have had to wait seconds for it to pass. -- Spurzem 16:06, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Just because the pixels are magnified 200% compared to a normal 12 MP image doesn't mean that we should hold it to a higher standard for DOF. -- King of Hearts 22:57, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support per Smial.--Ermell 10:03, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment @King of Hearts, Smial, and Ermell: Excuse me, it is not about a higher standard. All I expect is that an important object of an image is taken in focus. This here was not. If I'd follow your argumentation we would get unbelievably unfair rules. For example: I am using a 12MP camera. But if I nominate an image taken with a 6MP camera it would have to be focused twice as good as my usual pictures. Really? – And please remember, officially we should accept even 2 MP images. They would have to be focused 12 times better than Moroder's nominations? --Augustgeyler 10:13, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  • @Augustgeyler: DOF is a function of the lens only, not the sensor. So if you see a 2 pixel wide blur on a 32 MP camera, it would be pretty apparent, but if you had used the same lens on a 2 MP camera, the blur would only be 0.5 pixel wide, which people might not notice. The point is that if we would accept an image taken with a particular lens on a 2 MP camera, we must not reject the same image taken with the same lens on a 32 MP camera, even if it appears unsharp at 100%. --King of Hearts 20:08, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Take a look at a 6.7 MP version of this image and tell me it doesn't deserve to become QI. Now imagine the photographer originally took this picture using a 6.7 MP camera. --King of Hearts 20:12, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment Thank you for delivering that experiment. The problem is less visible, but still there and easy to see. We are nominating QI, which should be able to be used without down-sampling. If someone want's to print this in full scale, what do we tell him? We have to analyze nominations at 100% and not at any different level. --Augustgeyler 21:02, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  • @Augustgeyler: If you printed both the original and the downsampled version at the same print size, the original can only be better. Basically, if you tried to print this as a 80cm x 60cm poster, you would see a little bit of unsharpness on the car, but it would be mostly OK. If you tried to print the downsampled version at the same size, the entire image would be soft. But being able to be printed at 80cm x 60cm is not a requirement at QIC. If it looks good printed at 16cm x 12cm, that's good enough, regardless of whether it consists of 2 sharp megapixels or 100 unsharp megapixels. --King of ♥ 01:31, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  • To follow your argumentation we would need a rule which clearly defines a standard- or reference view or printing size every images is reviewed on. For example: 4MP at 92 DPI. That would mean this image here might have been supportable. Every 2MP image not. But do you understand what I mean? Such a standard would be the only way to get something comparable. --Augustgeyler 10:08, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Yes, different people have different interpretations. My interpretation is that a 2 MP image which is perfect at 100% cannot be rejected at QIC for having too little resolution. Therefore, the natural corollary is that any image which looks perfect when downsampled to 2 MP must also pass. --King of Hearts 17:34, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Wow! The image above is actually rejected for being downsized. --Augustgeyler 21:46, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  • The reason it should be rejected is not because it is downsampled (EXIF could be missing or faked, so comparing to the native resolution of the camera is not a reliable tell), but because the pixel-level detail is quite bad for a low-resolution (3.8 MP) image. If the image had 36 MP but the same quality of pixel-level detail, I would consider it QI. --King of Hearts 06:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
  Support I was carefully reviewing the architecture of the place, the angle and the metadata. This seems to have a slight perspective problem, but not too severe to disqualify it. The difference in the size of the towers is because in real life the towers are not the same size [1] --Wilfredor 03:18, 2 November 2020 (UTC) comment in wrong place --Wilfredor 03:21, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support per Smial and KoH. --Aristeas 12:29, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support I'm not too fond of the crop (why so much headroom?), but other than that a fine image. --MB-one 12:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Total: 6 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose →   Promoted   --Augustgeyler 19:56, 5 November 2020 (UTC)