Commons:Requests for comment/Technical needs survey/Handle multiple creators in MediaViewer
Fix MediaViewer's inability to handle collaborations edit
Description of the Problem edit
- Problem description:
When two or more creators created a work of media, MediaViewer will always reduce this to the first person with a Creator template. It functions perfectly well when names are given in text alone, however. For example:
This should list two creators, Humanité René Philastre and Charles-Antoine Cambon. It instead will only list one. There is, however, no single creator who's more "correct" than the other: This was a collaboration. This is, of course, misattribution, which is especially bad since MediaViewer presents itself as if it can provide an accurate credit line. This is not a new issue: The problem has been known about for a decade now, and really, really needs at least some resources thrown at it.
Alternatively, consider just defaulting to "See file description page" with a link there in any case where the conversion isn't trivial.
- Proposal type: bugfix
- Proposed solution:
I'd suggest it'd be easiest to move forwards by allowing two or more creator templates to be used: A Creator template and additional text breaks as well, but that, at least, can be worked around by making a Creator template (or Creator-like template) for additional people. Personally, I would suggest at least four Creator templates, because I can point to cases with four names easily: File:Edward_Duncan_-_The_Explosion_of_the_United_States_Steam_Frigate_Missouri.jpg.
- Phabricator ticket: T68606 - (from 2014!!!)
- Further remarks:
- The other thing that doesn't work well in the MV are dates with precision lesser than days (e.g. months, years), that are displayed only as "1 January XXXX". — Draceane talkcontrib. 15:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- For variable values of "January", or would even 2020-08 show as "1 January 2020"? - Jmabel ! talk 18:50, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- The other thing that doesn't work well in the MV are dates with precision lesser than days (e.g. months, years), that are displayed only as "1 January XXXX". — Draceane talkcontrib. 15:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Discussion edit
- seriously, i dont know how mediawiki can have a component that's worse than a user-developed gadget Help:Gadget-GallerySlideshow for so long.
- when switching images by pressing left or right arrows, GallerySlideshow can show the new ones instantly. MediaViewer lags.
- GallerySlideshow can have a row of thumbnails on top. mv doesnt.
- GallerySlideshow can handle multiple creators. mv cant.
- GallerySlideshow can handle any kind of dates. mv cant.
- GallerySlideshow shows the categories too. mv cant.--RZuo (talk) 23:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- My understanding is that they got it mostly functional, put it live, fixed a couple glaring issues, then immediately dropped all development resources. It's the only way such basic issues could still exist. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Votes edit
- Support. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 09:51, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support Bluerasberry (talk) 16:38, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- yes.--RZuo (talk) 21:10, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- yes. Jmabel ! talk 23:50, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- yes. Abzeronow (talk) 16:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Draceane talkcontrib. 08:04, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- Schlurcher (talk) 13:43, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Gestumblindi (talk) 01:14, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- SupportAlachuckthebuck (talk) 16:35, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support* Pppery * it has begun... 21:20, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support--Bogusław Pab (talk) 11:01, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support SWinxy (talk) 02:42, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support Nardog (talk) 05:04, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support --GPSLeo (talk) 18:31, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 00:45, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support Bidgee (talk) 18:37, 14 February 2024 (UTC)