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Table of ContentsEdit

It's not detailed enough. I think we should raise the toclimit (currently toclimit-3), or have a second, normally collapsed ToC with a higher toclimit. Thoughts? --Elvey (talk) 17:28, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

OGL-CanadaEdit

I'm going through the process of creating a map based on Natural Resources Canada licensed under the Open Government Licence - Canada. I believe it's pretty similar to the original OGL, but {{OGL}} is UK-specific. Should I go ahead, modify it and add the new temeplate to this list? Or should I let someone who knows what they're doing do that? Samuell (talk) 04:12, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Version 2.0 of the Canadian OGL license (OGL-C) appears to meet all of the Commons requirements for a free license. Creative Commons appears to agree that it is a free license, although they do have a few suggestions on how it can be modified for improved compatibility with CC licenses (see [1] and [2]). I think it would be fine to create a {{OGL-C}} license tag. —RP88 07:42, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Done. Samuell (talk) 19:30, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

United States Army and Air Force heraldic itemsEdit

Most images of US Army and Air Force heraldic items (insignia, emblems, shoulder sleeve insignia, distinctive unit insignia and the like) are currently marked with various tags, indicating they are simply PD US Government, Air Force, or Army. Eash of these tags indicates that the tagged item is in the public domain. However, although usage in Wikis is allowed, these items are not entirely in the public domain. Heraldic items for the armed services are created by The Institute of Heraldry. The tag for TIOH:

Public domain This image shows a flag, a coat of arms, a seal or some other official insignia produced by the United States Army Institute of Heraldry. It is in the public domain but its use is restricted by Title 18, United States Code, Section 704 and the Code of Federal Regulations (32 CFR, Part 507). Permission to use these images for commercial purposes must be obtained from The Institute of Heraldry prior to their use.

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includes the limitations on commercial use and links to the statute and regulation that govern their use. Although TIOH also designs items for the US Navy, for some reason the Navy is not expressly mentioned in the Code of Federal Regulations.

The bottom line is that there are probably tens of thousands of Wikimedia images that have tags indicating they are public domain, when US law only permits non-commercial use of the images. --Lineagegeek (talk) 14:52, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes, this is an example of a non-copyright restriction. It's Commons policy to accept such images. In addition to the very specific tag you mention (i.e. {{PD-USGov-Military-Army-USAIOH}}), Commons has some generic tags intending to warn re-users of this restriction (i.e. {{Insignia}}) as well as other non-copyright restrictions (e.g. {{Trademarked}}, {{Personality rights}}, etc.). I'd encourage you to add {{Insignia}} (or similar) to images of U.S. heraldic items, if you're certain it's use would be restricted in the U.S. With regards to the omission of the Navy, I think I recall that they specially objected to a mandated use of TIOH due to interservice rivalry (TIOH is officially part of the US Army). —RP88 15:25, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Also, the cited code does NOT only permit non-commercial use of the images. It's less broad than that. Licensed use in commercial manufacturing is permitted, and commercial use that does note involve manufacturing and does not involve commerce in Military medals or decorations is NOT prohibited. So the template's assertion, "Permission to use these images for commercial purposes must be obtained from The Institute of Heraldry prior to their use." is false (i.e. not always true); it should be qualified so that it is (actually) true. --Elvey (talk) 21:35, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
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As noted, the assertion is false. I request the language be changed to "Permission is required before use these images for most commercial purposes. It may be obtained from The Institute of Heraldry." On the talk page, we can note that licensed use in commercial manufacturing is permitted (even if not from TIOH), and commercial use that does note involve manufacturing and does not involve commerce in Military medals or decorations is NOT prohibited, and that, for example, use on an ad-supported fork of wikipedia is NOT prohibited. --Elvey (talk) 22:19, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello? Awfully quiet!--Elvey (talk) 06:49, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:UN map-2Edit

Some time ago, I made a new template to replace Template:UN map.
Feel free to discuss on the Talk page. --Wickey-nl (talk) 10:16, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Apparently related to the next section, I added a header level below to get a subsection. Jeremyb-phone suggested OCHA map to discuss the issue. –Be..anyone (talk) 19:19, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
No, two different matters. I refered to Template talk:UN map-2. --Wickey-nl (talk) 15:36, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:OCHA mapEdit

Template:OCHA map reads: “We are keen to receive your feedback and hear how you used OCHA's maps. We would be grateful if you would notify us by e-mail and share your work with us”.
Appropriate in the original document, but reads quite odd here. It also says: “... ensure that the sources and the disclaimer are below the map ... keep the data sources as mentioned below the map”. Yet the attribution is not below the map, but in the attached description page.

Unlike the ReliefWeb site, Commons does not show the disclaimer in the map, but on the description page. I think the disclaimer should be on the map itself, as logo and OCHA name are also on the map. The Commons file can be used without the attached description page. Thus the images should actually be adapted. The ReliefWeb permission page only requires a link to the source (as well as the credit “Based on OCHA/ReliefWeb”, or “Source: OCHA/ReliefWeb” for unmodified maps), but this does not apply to the disclaimer. Either remove the ReliefWeb logo, or add the disclaimer. --Wickey-nl (talk) 11:15, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

I see you've raised this on multiple discussion pages. I replied first on the first one I saw. Can we decide on a place discuss and keep it in one place? --Jeremyb-phone (talk) 15:48, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Discuss on the template's talkpage. --Wickey-nl (talk) 15:27, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
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