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Map Key / Legenda

Is it possible to add to the map key, what is the yellow and red circles, as well as the square that is half yellow half red? Ajlee2006 (talk) 14:20, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

damn y'all actually did it nice Ajlee2006 (talk) 09:44, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Could you please also add the meaning to the red-colored airplane symbols? -Salciano 03.03.2022 21h00(GMT+1) — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2A02:3032:400:E29B:84F4:10DE:4402:B780 (talk) 20:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Yellow and red areas

Russia is in grey, Crimea is not Russia but under Russian occupation. And of course is Ukraine more than the yellow area. The way this map is now is Russian point of view. NNW 13:17, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

NNW I've changed the wording to address the issue. Viewsridge (talk) 15:22, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

The green should say Rest of Ukraine, or unoccupied Ukraine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Damián A. Fernández Beanato (talk • contribs) 15:27, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Correct, Ukraine is yellow + red. NNW 15:32, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Do you really see yellow instead of green? --Damián A. Fernández Beanato (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Otherwise I wouldn't call it yellow. :o) It looks like mustard to me. Anyway: the not-red areas. NNW 15:58, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

It should be generalized as follows: (1) inactive states or regions are grey, (2) occupied (and claimed) regions are in red, (3) offensive actions and frontline boundaries are in red - possibly a bolder shade, (4) territories held by defense are in yellow, (5) defensive actions in yellow (bolder shade). In particular, counter-attacks into Russian territory would activate the region - as yellow, with Ukrainian incursions put in red. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2603:6000:AA4D:C5B8:0:3361:EAF8:97B7 (talk) 21:27, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Chernobyl takeover

Russian Army has already taken over Chernobyl power plant. https://twitter.com/RealCamHigby/status/1496903692771106819?s=20&t=ssnqgUP8RZwsaGZM4Eox2g

Fab1442006 (talk) 18:11, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Sources for style

Below, an editable list of sources for Ukraine invasion maps. Based on Lisa Charlotte Muth (@lisacmuth)'s Twitter threat.

• New York Times → https://nytimes.com/interactive/2022/world/europe/ukraine-maps.html
• Le Monde → https://lemonde.fr/international/live/2022/02/24/guerre-en-ukraine-la-russie-a-envahi-et-bombarde-le-territoire-ukrainien-l-otan-veut-deployer-des-forces-supplementaires-pour-aider-ses-allies_6115008_3210.html
• ZEIT Online → https://zeit.de/politik/ausland/2022-02/ukraine-russland-ostukraine-angriffe-karte
• Wall Street Journal → https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-attacks-ukraine-drawing-broad-condemnation-11645682406
• Süddeutsche Zeitung → https://sueddeutsche.de/politik/ukraine-russland-krieg-putin-kiew-live-1.5533918
• The Washington Post → https://washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/22/ukraine-russia-invasion-photos-videos-maps/
• EL PAÍS → https://elpais.com/internacional/2022-02-24/el-ataque-de-rusia-a-ucrania-en-mapas.html
• Bloomberg → https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-ukraine-russia-us-nato-conflict/
• Neue Zürcher Zeitung → https://nzz.ch/international/russland-und-ukraine-das-wichtigste-zur-krise-ld.1613540
• Financial Times → https://ft.com/content/07bbc5c7-e620-4734-83b5-7bb261363c35
• Axios → https://axios.com/ukraine-russia-diplomatic-ties-invasion-fcce6ed0-bf23-4052-b39f-347cbd009cf8.html
• SPIEGEL → https://spiegel.de/ausland/russland-ukraine-news-am-mittwoch-wolodymyr-selenskyj-ruft-nach-eigenen-angaben-bei-wladimir-putin-an-vergeblich-a-92732ec9-b926-495d-b226-65741f27ad83
• AFP → https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1496836765092569088
• El Diario → https://eldiario.es/internacional/rusia-invade-ucrania-ahora_1_8777001.html
• El Mundo → https://elmundo.es/internacional/2022/02/24/62176aacfdddffcb358b45d9.html
• Folha de S.Paulo → https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mundo/2022/02/entenda-a-guerra-na-ucrania-em-7-mapas.shtml
• BBC → https://bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682
• El Confidencial → https://elconfidencial.com/mundo/2022-02-24/ultima-hora-guerra-ucrania-rusia-militares-frontera_3375044/ (Thanks, @arixha!)
• The Telegraph → https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/24/ukraine-live-map-track-russian-invasion-explosions-locations/
• Sky News → https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-says-russia-has-started-full-scale-invasion-as-biden-says-the-prayers-of-the-world-are-with-them-12550026
• Les Echos → https://lesechos.fr/monde/enjeux-internationaux/direct-ukraine-toute-lactualite-sur-levolution-de-la-situation-ce-jeudi-24-fevrier-1389314
• The Times → https://thetimes.co.uk/article/russia-launches-full-scale-invasion-of-ukraine-v35ch8qww
• WELT → https://welt.de/politik/ausland/article237112531/Ukraine-Russische-Truppen-dringen-offenbar-in-Sperrzone-von-Tschernobyl-ein-Kiew-loest-Luftalarm-aus.html
• Newtral → https://newtral.es/mapa-conflicto-rusia-ucrania/20220224/
• Taz → https://taz.de/Nachrichten-zum-Angriff-auf-die-Ukraine/!5837492/
• RTVE → https://rtve.es/noticias/20220224/mapa-guerra-ucrania/2296131.shtml
• Le Figaro → https://lefigaro.fr/international/en-direct-la-russie-attaque-l-ukraine-macron-condamne-la-decision-russe-de-faire-la-guerre-20220224
• BILD → https://bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/kriegs-strategie-des-kreml-chefs-die-ukraine-in-der-putin-zange-79261274.bild.html
• Al Jazeera → https://aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/24/mapping-russian-attacks-across-ukraine-interactive
• El Español → https://elespanol.com/mundo/europa/20220224/otan-desplegara-tropas-flanco-defender-aliados/652684897_0.html
• Meduza → https://meduza.io/feature/2022/02/25/pervyy-den-voyny-podvodim-itogi-boevyh-deystviy-i-pytaemsya-ponyat-chto-budet-dalshe
• Le Monde → https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2022/02/25/guerre-en-ukraine-l-ordre-de-bataille-de-poutine_6115167_3210.html

Bold: most interesting map ; striked ugly map. You can edit this list ! Yug (talk) 21:37, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Atributions: Lisa Charlotte Muth (@lisacmuth), Yug, AndyVolykhov, ...

Wikipedia maps shouldn't copy maps even from even reliable media. The reasoning is well explained here. The map should copy from the official detailed Wikipedia map Colin dm (talk) 22:38, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Colin dm : Great, for data.

As for style, elegance can be improved. Those maps can provide inspiration of best practices for style, legends, etc. Yug (talk) 10:16, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

What to do if Ukraine gains ground in Russia or Belarus

If Ukraine (although unlikely) move the frontline onto Russian or Belarusian soil, should the map with be updated with high detail in Russia & Belarus like in Ukraine?--Physeters (talk) 00:25, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Seems not much possible, but bombing of Millerovo (Russia) was reported, I think we should show bombing by both sides. AndyVolykhov (talk) 12:53, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Activate the affected state or district as yellow and color the invaders as red, so that Ukraine then becomes red on yellow Russian or Belarusian territory. See the comment above on generalizing colors. Offense = red, defense = yellow. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2603:6000:AA4D:C5B8:0:3361:EAF8:97B7 (talk) 21:30, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Millerovo in Russia

• Can you add (a mark with other color) strike to russian military airbase Millerovo by Ukraine forces? [1] [2] This is info from Ukraine army --Мечников (talk) 13:38, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Translation

@Viewsridge: , is it possible for other users to provide translation that follow the updates of this file? Tetizeraz. Send me a ✉️ ! 15:22, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Tetizeraz Hi, unfortunately its very difficult to translate the map into multiple languages with each update. I also cannot guarantee the accuracy of the translations to the languages I do not speak, however other language Wiki's can add translations to their languages by adding captions in the article where they use the file. Viewsridge (talk) 18:01, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Zones should not be colored in

There's a problem I see with certain zones being colored in, as it should fall under WP:OR. Just because Russian forces are in a city, or passing through, does not mean they 'control' the area around it. Right now, the battle zones are contested, unlike east Ukraine & Crimea, where we know the official lines of demarcation. Coloring the zones equally is original research as it equates equally fortified battle lines. I propose that the map be handled more like the ISIS map in Syria, where only the confirmed locations of control be highlighted, not all the land in between. Example:

--Black Future (talk) 16:18, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Larger font?

Please increase the font size as it is very difficult to read the city names even at 150% zoom. It would also be good to make the translation option easier. Sławobóg (talk) 16:32, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Ozerne

Military airport Ozerne (50.158, 28.738) was attacked on Feb 24 but still absent on the map. Semyon 'dicto' Fedotov (talk) 21:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Semyon 'dicto' Fedotov Added, thanks. Viewsridge (talk) 05:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Melitopol taken over

Melitopol was surrendered on 25th December. (source) Luxtaythe2nd (talk) 10:16, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Luxtaythe2nd: I have not seen it reported as fully taken by Ukrainian sources or reliable 3rd party sources yet. Viewsridge (talk) 13:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Smila

Rocket strike on radar 24 Feb at 7 A.M. [3]--Vetal ek (talk) 10:32, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Vetal ek: Added, thanks. Viewsridge (talk) 13:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Date

Viewsridge, congratulations! It is necessary to replace 24 on February 26. Thank you for your work!--Максим Огородник (talk) 13:48, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Максим Огородник: Thanks, and that date shows the start of the invasion, not the present date. Viewsridge (talk) 13:52, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Konotop wrong

There is no evidence that konotop fell, so it should be assumed that it is still under Ukrainian control. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2600:1017:B41C:9B3:ECA6:F195:2609:B45B (talk) 15:38, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I have reverted the the reversion, 112 Ukraine is a deprecated source known for pro-Russian disinformation EnglishPoliticalPerson (talk) 16:47, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@EnglishPoliticalPerson: Thanks, please notify me if you notice any other mistake or need updates. Viewsridge (talk) 16:56, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Animated version of map?

Does anyone have the ability to make an animated gif version of this map to show the evolution of the war? Thanks! --History and Headlines (talk) 16:51, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@History and Headlines: It could probably be created by accessing the older versions of the file and using a gif creator. Viewsridge (talk) 16:58, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I just saw https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2022_Russian_Invasion_of_Ukraine_animated.gif Best, --History and Headlines (talk) 18:48, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

We maintain a local version on our systems, with a picture rate of 1/second, animation frame rate of 5/second, and a 1+4+1-frame cross-fade from picture to picture given by the function f(x) = x²(3 - 2x), which satisfies f(0) = 0, f(1) = 1, f'(0) = 0 = f'(1) and leads to smooth transitioning with effective pauses on each picture. We'll look into the sources mentioned, with an eye toward properly aligning the frames, and maybe upload the animation. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2603:6000:AA4D:C5B8:0:3361:EAF8:97B7 (talk) 20:18, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Russian troops in Mykolaiv

According to "Mykolaiv offensive" article on wikipedia, Russian troops moved in direction of Mykolaiv and the city is currently under attack. RGoes (talk) 19:15, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@RGoes: Added, thanks. Viewsridge (talk) 20:54, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Mykolaiv contested

Mykolaiv is currently being hotly contested. Sources:

• https://24tv.ua/ru/boi-za-nikolaev-gorode-slyshny-vystrely-objavlen-sbor-medikov_n1880868
• https://www.unian.ua/war/tanki-proyshli-cherez-mikolajiv-zi-strilyaninoyu-oda-novini-donbasu-11719732.html
• https://www.rbc.ua/ukr/news/boi-nikolaev-gorode-vzryvy-vystrely-obyavlen-1645895414.html
• http://www.niknews.mk.ua/uk/2022/02/26/v-prigorode-nikolaeva-idet-tankovyj-boj/

Luxtaythe2nd (talk) 19:35, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Luxtaythe2nd: Added, thanks. Viewsridge (talk) 20:54, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Technical problem with display of the map?

I have no clue what happend here, but there is some sort of technical issue that causes a problem with the display on-wiki in articles, but also in the preview(s) here on commons. The articles about the invasion are very often read right now, since it is an actual topic, so it would be good if someone knows how to fix that and what actually went wrong.

Please do not keep reverting, since it was already multiple times reverted in a very short time. This might cause more problems, than it might help. Best regards, Koreanovsky (talk) 10:57, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@ZomBear, Tuvixer, محمد العجاني, and Tartan357: File is currently broken due to the ongoing edit war, it will be fixed if users can stop edit warring for 20-30 mins. Viewsridge (talk) 11:07, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

It has been fixed now, just as a note for future occasions, Wikimedia files will break if reverted multiple times in a short span of time, if you are trying to fix the issue by reverting you shouldn't. Best regards. Viewsridge (talk) 11:09, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Kharkiv free from Russians

https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1497892241116962819 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sławobóg (talk • contribs) 12:32, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Sławobóg: Updated, thanks. Viewsridge (talk) 14:08, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Enerhodar, Korosten, Poltava, Odesa

According to Centre for Eastern Studies, Warsaw: Russians on the south are close to Enerhodar; Odesa is under attacs from landing operations; on the North: attack in direction of Korosten; on the east: part of the forces missed the Kharkiv and goes in direction of Kremenchuk, they get to Poltava. Mariupol is encircled (forces from Crimea and Donetsk are connected) Kenraiz (talk) 15:39, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

NPOV

The map is currently inconsistent with NPOV, for multiple reasons:

• The map does not show recent Ukrainian victories in Kyiv and Kharkiv.
• Red is a strong and active color. Yellow looks weak and passive.
• A bunch of red arrows moving into a yellow background looks like a one-sided affair. The war isn't.
• Contrast the BBC's version here: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682. In some areas, Wikipedia is showing greater areas of Russian control than does the BBC. Look in particular to the East of the lake that is North of Kyiv. Look also at the coast to the east of Mariupol.

Adoring nanny (talk) 17:56, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Adoring nanny: That BBC map is literally pushing an anti-Ukrainian agenda with the fake news of Russians' occupying Severodonetsk and Lysychansk. As to the colours - blue city names on yellow look clean and symbolic, whereas red vs white makes much less sense, too, as it makes the monochrome clash with polychrome (thus black vs white would look neater, but then black is an even worse choice). Feel free to correct me, however.--Adûnâi (talk) 00:29, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

There is no NPOV with colors. Red denotes offense, yellow defense. In particular, if the war crosses the border in the opposite direction, then red should be used on Russian areas to denote Ukraine's advance, while yellow denotes Russia's defense. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2603:6000:AA4D:C5B8:0:3361:EAF8:97B7 (talk) 20:22, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Zhytomyr attack

Today a military base in Zhytomyr was attacked. First two photos has taken near 50.2604,28.6989, so the coordinates of the base are 50.2746,28.7153. Please add to the map. Semyon 'dicto' Fedotov (talk) 19:48, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Enemy has circled Kyiv

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-kyiv-europe-e9cd115540b398be26dfcaf472ec1621

Please update map. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 51.175.236.163 (talk) 19:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Disputed claim Jr8825 (talk) 20:51, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Berdyansk and Kupyansk reported to have fallen

Per [4] and [5] Jr8825 (talk) 20:54, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Timing data

Consuder adding time and/or isochrone. Yug (talk) 00:07, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Updated to include the fact that Tokmak is now in russian territory.

Updated to include the fact that Tokmak is now in russian territory: https://24tv.ua/ru/tokmake-zaporozhe-massovo-orudujut-rossijskie-voennye_n1881955

• File:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.svg: Updated file | Discussion Hiyouboots (talk) 07:00, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Russians are in Kiev

Per BBC, Russia has occupied territory w/in Kiev, including a bit of land on the west wide of the Dnieper. Would it be possible to update the map to reflect this? Mhawk10 (talk) 22:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps we need map just for Kiev. --79.101.207.65 05:10, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

== Подписи на русскоязычной карте вторжения на Украину ==- На переведённой с английского карте Файл:Вторжение России на Украину.svg выражение "Russia and pro-russian separatists" было переведено как "Россия, ДНР и ЛНР". На мой взгляд, этот перевод некорректен в силу марионеточности республик. Предлагаю заменить на "Россия и её сателлиты". Kamolan (обс.) 09:08, 27 февраля 2022 (UTC)

• Имхо, перебор. Но добавить то, что ДНР и ЛНР никто кроме вторженцев не признаёт, думаю, можно. — Вероника;) (обс.) 09:10, 27 февраля 2022 (UTC)
  • Почему перебор? ДНР и ЛНР полностью подконтрольны России. Основную часть сил вторжения составляют войска России. Даже в первом варианте перевода этой карты выражение «Russia and pro-russian separatists» было переведено как «России и сепаратистов». Kamolan (обс.) 09:18, 27 февраля 2022 (UTC)
    • Ну, про то, что их можно (и, вероятно, даже нужно) назвать сепаратистами я согласна. Но ждём ответа со стороны Алексея или кого-то ещё из посредников. — Вероника;) (обс.) 09:21, 27 февраля 2022 (UTC)
• Мое личное мнение, что так, как есть, хорошо. Легенда должна быть лаконичной и понятной. ДНР и ЛНР понятно что такое. А что такое сателлиты нужно еще объяснять. К тому же Государство-сателлит говорит о формально признанных государствах. Alexei Kopylov (talk) 09:42, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
• А Беларусь считается пророссийским сателлитом? Не понимаю, что про это подразумевает англокартинка. Wikisaurus (talk) 11:49, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
• ДНР и ЛНР норм, раньше там была приписка "Россией и сепаратистами", но я её убрал по просьбе коллег на СО статьи. Super Sten (talk) 11:51, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
• Сегодня, 28.02 ДНР было взято с. Гранитное и н.п. Гнутово. Спасибо Вам за Ваш труд по карте!--NikolayLukas (talk) 15:30, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Update for Chernihiv, it is not surrounded and under siege

https://t.me/bbbreaking/116512, https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putins-nuclear-move-could-make-situation-much-much-more-dangerous-us-official-2022-02-27/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by FUNTr7 (talk • contribs) 07:53, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/world/europe/chernihiv-russia-troops.html : "While Ukrainian forces are battling to keep some roads in and out open, the mayor said, Russian forces are trying to tighten a cordon around the city". Hence it's not surrounded and Gaeilge181 edits are biased, watch out.

Russia has taken Enerhodar according to Russian MoD

Russian army takes control of Ukrainian cities of Berdyansk and Enerhodar (in en). APA.az (February 28, 2022). Retrieved on February 28, 2022. --Eduardog3000 (talk) 08:47, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

W3C error?

I tried to translate this image into Chinese by SVG Translate tool, but an error occurred, it said that "This file can not be translated with this tool because it contains unsupported SVG (nested tspan in #tspan4607-6-6) in the following text: 24 February 2022 - present". Could you please fix this error, thanks a lot. --BlackShadowG (talk) 12:13, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Shulginka

Do you think it's time to mark Shulginka as contested? It's a village located due south of Starobielsk. Sources: actual and a Tweet.--Adûnâi (talk) 12:24, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

I can edit the map to include this spur if you can find out whether the Russians came from Starobil's'k or from Novoaidar. Hiyouboots (talk) 12:35, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Last Modification Timestamp

Great map. I don't know about the conventions, but I was thinking a "last modified" timestamp in the map would be beneficial for such a frequently updated topic. The rendered map on the page only shows the current date accurate to 24 hours. I am aware that the file history can be seen, but I think this information is important on the front page, while things are changing so rapidly. WoodyCabin (talk) 14:05, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@WoodyCabin: I personally am not in the favor of adding a timestamp because I cannot guarantee that the map will be accurate by the hour. However if other editors want it included they are welcome to add it. Viewsridge (talk) 14:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

We dont need an hourly timestamp, but if the map showed the day is was from would be really useful 198.101.118.150 16:12, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Sladovsk has fallen to Russia, mark it and the rest of the Southern Peninsula as pink

mark it and the rest of the Southern Peninsula as pink — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.228.78.121 (talk) 17:36, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Source (from the supporters of Kiev government): [6] (P.S. It's SKadovsk, not SLadovsk, just so that the typo doesn't comfuse anyone).StjepanHR (talk) 03:32, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Artsyz - aerial bombardment/missile strike

You might have missed Artsyz, it was bombed a few days ago (source).--Adûnâi (talk) 20:19, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Adûnâi: Added, thanks. Viewsridge (talk) 07:06, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

On Tuesday, March 1, the Russian army fired on the Kanatovo military airfield near Kropyvnytskyi.

On Tuesday, March 1, the Russian army fired on the Kanatovo military airfield near Kropyvnytskyi. --Leonst (talk) 21:59, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Leonst: Added, thanks. Viewsridge (talk) 07:06, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Trostianets has fallen

Apparently, Trostianets has fallen (source).--Adûnâi (talk) 02:10, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@Adûnâi: Added, thanks. Viewsridge (talk) 07:06, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

fighting happening in Mykolaiv according to live ua updates — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireduck420 (talk • contribs) 09:32, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Chronology of the map

I'm working on the animated map showing the progression of the invasion. I've had issues with it being unclear when this map is updated due to changes in the situation on the ground or changes in what is known. As such the animated map is erratic and front line positions change arbitratily in it.

Do you have specific versions you consider to correspond well to situations on the ground at given times? MaitreyaVaruna (talk) 00:01, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@MaitreyaVaruna: Most of the Russian captured territory being changed into Ukrainian control were fixes of mistaken edits. Ukrainian counter attacks have so far been limited to urban counter-offensives, so with regards to your question, a gradually expanding Russian control would be the most accurate timeline. Viewsridge (talk) 06:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll edit those into the next version MaitreyaVaruna (talk) 12:51, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Where is the animated map now? I realize it was erratic, but it at least gave more info than the static map, which seems now to be over 24 hours old. Ianbrettcooper (talk) 13:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Kherson captured

kherson also apears to be captured from the guardian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W7Ltv1h7Co

also Mykolaiv contested according to live ua update.

also other than the major rejecting Surender can't seem find any actual signs of fighting i know russian claims are very sketchy but should we also critisise the ukrainian claims more? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireduck420 (talk • contribs) 12:30, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@Fireduck420: live ua is based off Twitter and Telegram, not reliable enough. Ukrainian officials have denied that Kherson has fallen. Both sides claims can be sketchy, however, Ukrainians officials are very unlikely to report losing a territory they currently control. Viewsridge (talk) 12:39, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

wouldnt they also be unlikely to report the losing of land? just sugesting caution with live ua that makes sense i checked the source and it does indeed seem sketcy Fireduck420 (talk) 12:56, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

The battles near Kruty were repeated 100 years later

Taroboy owo Viewsridge, hi there! Please add to the map the place of the battle near Kruty, or the villages of Pamyatne and Khoroshe Ozero (they are near Nizhyn). This is a historic place where fighting took place again 100 years later yesterday. Thanks!--Максим Огородник (talk) 18:58, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@Максим Огородник: Okay. Viewsridge (talk) 19:10, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@Viewsridge: Please take a separate picture of the map where Kruty is marked. Required for Wikipedia article. Thanks!--Максим Огородник (talk) 19:17, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@Максим Огородник: Here you go. Viewsridge (talk) 20:01, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Real ocupated areas

File:Real occupation zone of Ukraine as of 1st of March.jpg

Good afternoon, the map is in someway incorrect about the territory occupied by the russian army. I have friends from Putyvl (Sumy oblast) and they say that the russian troops didn´t even entered the town, they just passed away. The russian army advances in columns but they don´t control all the territory where they advance. The illustration i posted shows how the map should look like in my opinion.
---Athosmera (talk) 20:59, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Information is already quite scarce and I've just been following the way this map is made by the other editors. If you want to see exactly which settlements have been captured I recommend the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Russo-Ukrainian_War_detailed_map (although it's already very outdated) and I think there's another page with a list of settlements occupied. Also, the Institute for the Study of War, which I find is a reliable source, also have their maps like this. Areas in between settlements are no-mans-zones anyways because neither side controls them directly, due to, of course, the ongoing conflict. Taroboy owo (talk) 21:29, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

inconsistencies with other map

File:Russo-Ukraine Conflict (2014-present).svg. What map is correct? (As this map has a source, I presume this one.) Habitator terrae 🌍 21:56, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

The other is, as to what I've seen in all sources that I follow, exaggerated. I only update this map when I see evidence of movement. Taroboy owo (talk) 22:08, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

What is the difference...

...between File:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.svg and File:Russo-Ukraine Conflict (2014-present).svg? RobiH (talk) 22:01, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

The difference is that the other map is quite exaggerated. I only update this map when I see evidence of movement, while the other map has positions that I can not verify in any of the sources that I follow. Taroboy owo (talk) 22:08, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Aerial bombardment source

Rr016, What is the source of the location pins for the aerial bombardments? Matt Heard (talk) 07:40, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't know, I did not make this map. I made: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Russo-Ukraine_Conflict_(2014-present).svg Rr016 (talk) 22:20, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Viewsridge: Thanks for adding a data source, but linking to the homepage of the news org is unfortunately not specific enough to verify the information. Can you please provide a more specific link? ― Tartan357 ^Talk 09:20, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Sure, it is on the given websites Twitter account, https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1496750027687206917. Viewsridge (talk) 09:23, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Viewsridge: The source provided is inconsistent with this map: for instance, the source shows Ternopil' unaffected (consistent with the original research of whoever created the inappropriate deletion request a few minutes ago). Can you provide an additional source (for instance, whatever you used when creating the third version of this map), or should we make this map's record of aerial bombardments consistent with the (only) source provided? —AlphaMikeOmega (talk) 11:17, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@AlphaMikeOmega: The source is BNO News, which is linked in the file page. However, the bombing appears to have been slightly misplaced in the map. Will fix it soon. Viewsridge (talk) 11:20, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Question - do the bombardment pins show activity in the last X hours or X days? If not, would it be possible to switch to that? Would be quite useful to see recent bombardments only, as opposed to all those that have occurred since the fighting begin. Thanks! 184.147.235.21 14:28, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Tokmak & Balakliya contested

Tokmak contested (source).
Balakliya, Kharkov oblast, contested (1, 2, 3).
Regarding the recent change to Pryluky - what's the source that it's the pincer from Chernihiv and not Konotop?--Adûnâi (talk) 12:11, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Adûnâi: Added, thanks. Viewsridge (talk) 13:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Viewsridge: As per this source (found via ukr.net), Russian forces have been spotted at Azovske, next to Berdyansk. (Edit: And Radio Svoboda.)--Adûnâi (talk) 14:00, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Adûnâi: Link seems dead and I cannot find its location in a map, make sure you keep notifying me about these though, I will update when reliable sources arrive. Viewsridge (talk) 14:17, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Viewsridge: Already added the Radio Svoboda link above, now Interfax-Ukraine. Azovske seems to exist.--Adûnâi (talk) 14:21, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Adûnâi: Seems far too ahead of Ukrainian lines, saboteurs maybe? I will wait for more information on this. Viewsridge (talk) 14:26, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Viewsridge: Not really a proper source, but this too mentions Russian forces at Osipenko which is roughly the area.--Adûnâi (talk) 14:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Adûnâi: Thanks, I've updated the map. Viewsridge (talk) 14:43, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Viewsridge: As per this source (reflected in the locale list), Bohodukhiv is contested. Worth a change?--Adûnâi (talk) 06:50, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Viewsridge: A Ukrainian source about the fall of Balakliya on 2022-03-02. Maybe revert this part of your edit on the other map, too?--Adûnâi (talk) 11:31, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Adûnâi: Which other map? Viewsridge (talk) 11:35, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Viewsridge: Of course, this one (File:Russo-Ukraine Conflict (2014-present).svg). Although it's not used much.--Adûnâi (talk) 12:05, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Adûnâi: I'm not really editing that one, you could ask its editors though, I'm sure they would update it. Viewsridge (talk) 12:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Devlet Geray: Another source - Berdyansk airport has been taken.--Adûnâi (talk) 15:58, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

• There is no reliable information that Shostka or Konotop fell --Devlet Geray (talk) 16:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Дезінформативна мапа

@Viewsridge: Hi there! For 7 days now we have been misinforming people not only in Ukraine, but all over the world. In fact, the occupiers are moving in columns and capturing individual settlements. Here is a real map that you want to put into practice. This is a reliable source of information. Thanks!--Максим Огородник (talk) 05:34, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Strongly agree with the general plan. Unclear on WP:RS of the link. But at least we can stop misinforming. Adoring nanny (talk) 14:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Максим Огородник and Adoring nanny: People without a Facebook account cannot even view that Facebook link. But all in all, I would find it quite symbolic if Wikipedia abandoned its practice of drawing maps because of this specific war hysteria. What's about the Ethiopian or Yemeni civil wars?--Adûnâi (talk) 07:15, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

ZAES

According to Grossi, Russian forces "are in control of the surrounding area and of the site as well. Which does not mean that they have taken over the plant itself, or the operation of the reactors. They have the physical control of the perimeter, including the village where most of the employees live." Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 11:19, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Stopped in the Kozelets direction

"The invaders were stopped in the areas of Kozelets, Bobrovytsia, and Makiiv" [7] Also, the map has Makiiv mislabeled as "Makiivka". but Makiivka is in the Donetsk region. Adoring nanny (talk) 14:25, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Voznesensk

@Taroboy owo: What reference did you use for your 23:46, 2 March 2022 edit showing an attack on Voznesensk? Cities and towns during the Russo-Ukrainian War shows Voznesensk as uncontested, and I don't see references to the city on w:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, nor references to an army group or tanks nearby with a search-engine lookup. —AlphaMikeOmega (talk) 17:32, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

A multitude of videos of shelling and an explanation of blowing up the bridge to the southern part of the city because of Russian presence. Right now there is more evidence as there are videos of the captured Russian troops south of Voznesensk. I'll make sure to document my sources next time as I did not write them down and forgot where I got this particular one. Taroboy owo (talk) 22:34, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Remove the explosions

It's been more than a week now. The aerial attacks that started the war aren't crucial actuality anymore, and they clutter a lot the page, making it quite hard to understand, and potentially misleading people into believing that those attacks are more recent. They should probably be removed now, or at least replaced by the latest information about Russian aerial raids. Larrayal (talk) 20:48, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes, these are misleading and outdated. Maybe some symbols for destruction, number of victims, etc. but not ongoing explosions if there were none for days. 2003:C6:370B:D605:54AE:FEFF:1098:B3DA 00:48, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

I'd like to get more users insight on this. I think the bombardments are as important as ground advances, because they display the scope of the Russian invasion, extending to the Polish border in the west and Romanian border in the south. Reliable maps I have seen, such as BBC News, also display the bombardments on their maps. Viewsridge (talk) 07:55, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

they diffenitly get in the way of veiwing though maybe make them smaller or less visable? like u couldnt really see the whole of the russia attack on oblon kyiv Fireduck420 (talk) 09:55, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Done. Viewsridge (talk) 10:24, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Criticism of this kind of visualization

See https://twitter.com/Calthalas/status/1498998318755680260 for an alternative--So9q (talk) 10:06, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

See also https://mobile.twitter.com/MaxCRoser/status/1500117040841043973 Yug (talk) 20:24, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

svatove

evidence from live ua of Russian troops in svatove with vido "Protest against Russian occupation in Svatove, Luhansk" https://twitter.com/ua_industrial/status/1499483181900312580

different protest in starobilsk according to live ua "Ukrainian protest against Russian military in Starobilsk, Luhansk region" https://twitter.com/Elenka61Lyunya/status/1499044065974829061?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1499044065974829061%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fliveuamap.com%2Fen%2F2022%2F2-march-ukrainian-protest-against-russian-military-in-starobilsk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireduck420 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

zaprozhia power plant occupied by russia according to ukraine goverment — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireduck420 (talk • contribs) 08:11, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Quality of the map

I mean no offense by this, but this map is incredibly odd and the placement of Russian advances is either outdated or unrealistic. Most other maps I've seen have shown further Russian advances in the South, between Melitopol and Mariupol. I suggest using Suriyak maps, the link is below:

https://twitter.com/suriyakmaps?lang=en

This account is pretty neutral and has been used before on other battle maps on Wikipedia, such as Al Bayda offensive. The account is updated daily, too. I hope this helps.2601:85:C101:C9D0:F18A:D85D:2993:9AEF 19:59, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Color change suggest

So i suggest to change the colors of the map for better delimitation.
Option 1 is leave Ukraine in yellow and Crimea and the Donbas separatist regions in red, but the territories occupied after the 24th of february in orange or something. People not informed about the 2014 situation may actually think that Crimea and Donbas where taken today, specially where the file in english lenguage is put in a foreign lenguage wikipedia where the reader may not understand the legend. Option 2 is just for visual look improve, softer colors like Ukraine in blue, prior 24th occupied territories in red and after 24th occupied territories in rose, orange or yellow.
--Athosmera (talk) 18:58, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Since the 24th you mean… --Damián A. Fernández Beanato (talk) 19:15, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I completely agree. The borders in Donbass and Crimea pre-February 24 should be shown. Colin dm (talk) 22:22, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Support. Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk should be in other colors. --魔琴 (talk) 22:57, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Support Option 2 the colors for Ukraine is wrong, it should be blue. MarioJump83! 13:07, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Support Option 2 the colors for Ukraine being blue. Tradedia^talk 22:20, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Separate file for multiple days of invasion

As the invasion progresses, Please create separate file for multiple days of invasion instead of overwriting the same file. Please add the date in the file name. --Venkat TL (talk) 09:55, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@Venkat TL: I don't think its time for that yet. The Russian advances, especially in the past 3-4 days have changed very little. Viewsridge (talk) 10:04, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@Viewsridge, I had seen clear difference between Day 1-2 and Day 5-6 from the maps published by UK Intelligence agency on Twitter. Russian Army has clearly captured more area. These separate pics will help the reader understand the progress of the war, next to the details in the article body. I am not suggesting to make pics for everyday. Just asking to fork off new images whenever a major update (that is clearly visible) is added. Venkat TL (talk) 10:16, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@Venkat TL: There was this .gif file that showed daily changes but it appears to have been removed. You could try asking for its inclusion at the article talk page. Viewsridge (talk) 10:20, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@Viewsridge no the gif is a different matter. It cannot be read properly. Multiple maps are still needed. Please start forking the image according to dates. You can use images from this handle as a source [8] Venkat TL (talk) 15:36, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

irpin and lughansk axis

attacks in irpin acording to sky news with footage and various other sources pics of russian military columns in irpin https://t.me/irpininteresting/4062 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireduck420 (talk • contribs) 11:01, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

possible Protest against Russian occupation soldiers in Belokurakino, Lugansk region https://twitter.com/nixoov/status/1500097586120003589?s=21

the whole lughansk axis seems very outdated in general

russians confirmed to be in staroblinsk https://twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/1500423816597712899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1500423816597712899%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fliveuamap.com%2Fen%2F2022%2F6-march-in-starobilsk-people-took-down--flag-of-russian-occupation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireduck420 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Bucha and Hosmotel has been captured

I don't know how to edit but here is the source: source — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1ovostolichnaya (talk • contribs) 14:25, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Comment from MediaWiki.org

Moved from mw:File talk:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.svg: * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:01, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

It's hard to see the yellow arrows against the yellow background. What about blue outlines to make them stand oyt? I have absolutely no idea how to do it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.184.202.12 (talk • contribs)

Territorial Update

Found an article saying southern parts of the Kherson region is no longer under Ukrainian control, along with other updates: https://news.sky.com/story/russia-ukraine-crisis-what-is-happening-and-where-after-full-scale-invasion-12550062

"Russian military near Osipenko village near Berdyansk" according to live ua update ukraine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireduck420 (talk • contribs) 13:45, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

"Russian troops captured Shulginka village" in Luhansk region" acording to live ua update ukraine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireduck420 (talk • contribs) 08:29, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

"Video of a Russian military column reportedly near the town of Okhynky, on the highway between Kyiv and Sumy. There's a TOS-1A thermobaric MLRS" according to live ua update the prong in romny appears to have advanced further

The Ukrainian armed forces meanwhile stated that Russian forces had captured Vasylivka, Tokmak and Polohy. Source: https://bnn-news.com/ukraine-after-11th-night-of-war-mayor-killed-towns-taken-moscow-promises-civilian-corridors-to-russia-233013 Cavewiki (talk) 17:29, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Added suggestion for captured towns. Cavewiki (talk) 17:30, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Огромные территории в тылу

Видел в группе Государственной Службы Противодействия Дезинформации в «Viber» карту с изображением реально оккупированных территорий — это были лишь редкие полоски шириной в несколько километров, а карта с огромными оккупированными территориями была признана манипуляцией. Может, следует обновить схему?

P.S. Из-за того, что из «Viber» невозможно копировать ссылки, мне пришлось ссылку на группу переписывать вручную, поэтому гарантии работоспособности ссылки нет. Аноным (talk) 08:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

1. В группе вайбера

2. На которую нет работоспособной ссылки.

Коллега! Пожалуйста, приведите авторитетные источники (сообщения госорганов на их сайтах, публикации в СМИ). Вайбер таковым назвать сложно, если у группы "галки" нет.

Super Sten (talk) 11:43, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Ссылка хоть и на сомнительный «Facebook», но рабочая: Вот эта публикация с более правдоподобной схемой. Попробую ещё где-нибудь поискать. Аноным (talk) 17:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Точно-точно в 39-м в агит. листовках тоже такие то-оненькие линии на карте Европы рисовали ("а там дрова"). 79.176.165.180 22:46, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Нашёл более-менее авторитетный источник. Аноным (talk) 09:51, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Вот ещё, более новая карта по состоянию на 6 марта Аноным (talk) 11:11, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

can someone update the map

the only recent map update in like 2 days has been pepole fighting over if the northwest is under russian control i doubt there is significant ukrainian resitance there anyway but irpin is contested and the russians have made multiple advances in the luhansk region there is some sources linked above but probably more — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireduck420 (talk • contribs) 12:51, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Multiple sources indicate the Russians have advanced in Luhansk

As an example, the ISW, and various war mappers (like https://mobile.twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1500538837885464576/photo/1 or https://twitter.com/SimTack/status/1500524146756919310?cxt=HHwWnIC9hd2w99IpAAAA) have all followed on detailed reports that the Russians have taken most of northern Luhansk. Please update the map accordingly. They seem to have been advancing there over the past 2 days, however no confirmation on them entering Severodonetsk or any of its suburbs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeoSpace (talk • contribs) 18:06, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Zhytomyr region

Please add the following attacks highlighted in the media:

• Zhytomyr, hospital #2 (50.281, 28.612) [9] [10] [11] [12];
• Zhytomyr, school #25 (50.2514, 28.6639) [13] [14] [15];
• Hladkovychi (51.336, 28.894) [16];
• Korosten, locomotive depot (50.982, 28.606) [17];
• Brovky (49.929, 29.197) [18] [19];
• Novohuivynske, armored plant (50.211, 28.692) [20] [21] [22];
• Ovruch (51.318, 28.789) [23] [24].

The coordinates are approximate. Semyon 'dicto' Fedotov (talk) 10:22, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Alas, some more:

• Malyn, recruitment office (50.7673, 29.2414) [25];
• Ovruch, employment center (51.329, 28.8065) [26];
• Korosten, school #2 (50.947, 28.65) [27];
• Vyazivka (51.151, 28.879) [28]. Semyon 'dicto' Fedotov (talk) 16:41, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Confirmation that Svatove in Northern Luhansk was taken several days ago

Seems according to their mayor the city was taken by the 3rd of March. Attached link: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/ukraines-occupied-towns-are-facing-a-tough-choice-collaborate-or-resist/ --GeoSpace (talk) 18:22, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Zhaporizhzhiya Oblast update

Occupation of several towns and shifting of frontlines according to regional Ukrainian military administration. Polohy, Vasylivka, Tokmak, Enerhodar, Berdyansk, and Melitopol are confirmed as occupied by Russian military. Villages of Huliaipole and Orikhiv and the general direction of Vasylivka-Balabino are where Ukrainian military administration is stating that they are conducting defensive operation against Russian invasion.

1. Link
2. Link

BasilLeaf (talk) 20:03, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Eastern Kyiv offensive: are cities/towns contested?

Is there any good evidence that the cities along the eastern advance to Kyiv (e.g. w:Bobrovytsia) are contested, as opposed to merely being bypassed? The w:Template:Russo-Ukrainian War detailed map does not currently show these locations to be contested, while w:Control of cities during the Russo-Ukrainian War does not mention them either way. —AlphaMikeOmega (talk) 20:03, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Dates on Map key

I've seen this image shared on other social media sites, and the use of the word "present" creates a problem because it isn't obvious when the map was made. I realize that it could be updated multiple times a day, but even if a time isn't placed on it, a date would help make things more clear. Mrand (talk) 22:10, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I just wanted to point that out too. Please, dear map makers (thanks for your great work!), put the date of the present situation on the map, instead of „24 February 2022-present“. --Ziko (talk) 18:33, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Supportet. A timestamp somewhere visible (if small) would help a lot to bring the map into context. ASchudak (talk) 10:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

• Support. This is what I came here to say. Each time you update the map change the legend time frame to include date of the update (rather than saying -present). Pabsoluterince (talk) 06:41, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Multiple RS dispute the idea that Russian forces "control" regions where there forces have passed through.

[29][30][31] "Vormarschgebiete" might be translated as "zones of advance". Not "zones of control". Adoring nanny (talk) 02:40, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Also [32]. Adoring nanny (talk) 12:01, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

This concept is MUCH better:

<img src="https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/INTERACTIVE-Russia-Ukraine-map-Who-controls-what-in-Ukraine-DAY-13-1.png">

RobiH (talk) 18:36, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Strongly agree. How can we get it changed? There have been multiple threads about this, yet the map remains. See the following sections of this page:

1. "Real ocupated areas"
2. "inconsistencies with other map"
3. Дезінформативна мапа [Translates to "disinformation map"]
4. Warning! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adoring nanny (talk • contribs) 20:01, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Adoring nanny (talk) 20:01, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Encircled cities: Kharkiv, Chernihiv, Sumy

The Associated Press and the UK Ministry of Defense describe Kharkiv, Chernihiv, and Sumy as being encircled, but they do not show as encircled on our map. We may want to extend the red to fully envelop these cities.

"LONDON — British defense officials say Russia’s assault on Kyiv has failed to make progress but several Ukrainian cities continue to suffer heavy shelling.

In an update posted on social media Wednesday, the Ministry of Defence said “fighting north-west of Kyiv remains ongoing with Russian forces failing to make any significant breakthroughs.”

It said the cities of Kharkiv, Chernihiv, Sumy and Mariupol remain encircled by Russian forces and are being heavily shelled."

–Novem Linguae (talk) 12:14, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

@Novem Linguae: I don't think encircled means sieged. Maps by the UK MoD and ISW still shows roads to the said cities as being open. Viewsridge (talk) 12:29, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

"Encircled" can also mean that the open roads out of the city are unsafe to travel, heavily hampering access. BasilLeaf (talk) 19:19, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Kherson

The city of Kherson should be shown under Russian control/occupation per Control_of_cities_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#Kherson_Oblast. No? --Yerevantsi (talk) 06:28, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

it already is look at the map again Fireduck420 (talk) 11:04, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Nope, still not corrected. --Yerevantsi (talk) 10:27, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't know which version of the map you're looking at but I think it's already been shown as under Russian control for a few days. I remember having made the edit myself. Taroboy owo (talk) 12:31, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Skadovsk

I am confused, was Skadovsk taken or not? Also, what is the situation with the rest of the peninsula around it? Spaceman2288 (talk) 05:55, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes Skadovsk was taken but the small territory to the west of Skadvosk has not been explicitely mentioned to be taken yet so I have not changed that yet (hopefully I don't have to of course). Taroboy owo (talk) 12:33, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Volnovakha - Mariupol highway

Is this also under Russian control? Spaceman2288 (talk) 06:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes. Taroboy owo (talk) 12:33, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Re: Nikolaev oblast revert

@AbsolutelyFiring: "There was no Russian advance on Snihurivka, just 10 guys infiltrated and captured."
I understand that the following is not a source, but this Telegram channel from Dnepropetrovsk has claimed Russian forces to have reached far beyond Snihurivka (link).--Adûnâi (talk) 07:59, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

It says that account doesn't exist when I open it. AbsolutelyFiring (talk) 17:34, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Westernmost incursion arrow

In the version from 3 March 2022 23:15 (by Taroboy owo), a new incursion was shown, the westernmost to date (it’s unchanged since then). It seems to point to around 51.6,28.2, where there’s mostly river systems instead of vehicle-access roads or substantial settlement. I can’t deduce from the comment whose advance it is or from/to where. Like I said, it hasn’t changed for a week, but since it’s much deeper into Belarusian territory, it’d be interesting to know the factuality and currentness of data. -- WA1TF0R^䷟ 11:03, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

If you're talking about the small part bulging towards Bihun', it was mentioned in an update from the ISW. I do not know how exactly they got there (infomration is scarce and not exactly accurate, I mean it's an invasion not like the Russians say where they exactly are) but I added "20km off of Bihun'" to the map. Taroboy owo (talk) 12:36, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Warning about "control"

Some design aspects could still be improved.
1) Color: this yellow is ugly.
2) Symbology: This kind of arrows are not suitable to such multi-waves campaigns.
3) Legend: white background is more elegant and conventional.

@Taroboy owo, Viewsridge, and Tartan357: , hello everyone! I am grateful for the titanic work, but I will repeat once again - the occupiers do not control the whole territory. This is clearly seen on these maps.--Максим Огородник (talk) 19:10, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

if you can provide any evidence of fighting or ukrainian control in any of the areas listed as under russian control the map will be changed otherwise this is hard copeium they do not conrol the whole country but they do control all the areas that is shown as under there control unless again u can provide any evidence to the contary Fireduck420 (talk) 11:02, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

@Fireduck420: see [33] or [34] for example. Adoring nanny (talk) 14:28, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

i dont think you link to the proper place all as all you linked was an article from the independent about the russians bombing a children's hospital witch i dont disagree with Fireduck420 (talk) 03:48, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

i belive the russians did bomb children hospitals to be clear Fireduck420 (talk) 03:49, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Fireduck420: The links are frequently updated, and I didn't realize it at the time. Here are some archive links. [35][36]. There is also [37] and the underlying page [38]. For that one, the archive frequently doesn't display the map, at least for me. The underlying page is updated a lot but should remain focused on maps. Adoring nanny (talk) 13:28, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

As I'm pretty sure I've already said it's hard to exactly determine control, and I'm basing my maps off of maps by the Institute of the Study of War but if you compare the maps you'll see this map has less of "non-highway control". And while Russia does not have complete control or directly captured settlements in i.e. southern Ukraine it's not like the Ukrainian army has any control either. Taroboy owo (talk) 12:30, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Notes: 1) the legend there has some good ideas and representations.
2) White legend is more readable.
3) This map has too many arrow, and this type of arrow is not ideal for long, detailed, tree-like moves.

Hello the team, Thanks for the amazing work. I may give some inputs since I was a notable creator of this map style with isochrones and arrows, based on WW2's maps, and first used in Syrian campaigns.

Current map representations is overly simplified, therefor problematic (see also #Criticism of this kind of visualization). Front lines are well sourced, but control is a more complex notion.

Words should be carefully chosen, so far I see :

• Towns have 3 status : Ukrainian controlled, disputed, Russian occupied.
• Land masses have 2 status : Ukrainian or Russian occupied. Ground reality is complex, "occupied", "disputed", "dominated" or a variant term and SVG hashed areas pattern could be used. But good wording help too.
• Front line should be described as such : a front line. And not a line of control. (Maybe more in wikipedia articles).

On sourced criteria, installation of a Russian-lead police force or Russia-friendly political leadership, proving pacified military resistance, could be a good sign of actual and deep Russian/Ukrainian control of the area. Sourced infiltrations or resistance suggest "disputed" or "dominated" (mostly but with gaps). This being some notable work I won't push for that, but just raise this possibility. Yug (talk) 08:40, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Novhorod-Siverskyi

The map and some other Wikipedia articles like this one claim that Novhorod-Siverskyi is occupied by Russian forces, while I could not find any sources supporting this anywhere on the Internet. Perhaps this should be corrected? — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.111.184.92 (talk) 22:25, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Volnovakha has fallen

CNN has indicated asking with other sources from the battlefield that Volnovakha has fallen. I have linked the article: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-11-22/index.html Spaceman2288 (talk) 20:42, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Датировка

А нет ли смысла в легенде ставить вместо н.в. дату обновления, чтобы было понятно, за какой день карта и обновилась ли уже вечером? Усама ибн Саддам бен Ёрик (talk) 22:13, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

No evidence that shostka was taken

Please provide a source that directly states that Shostka was taken — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spaceman2288 (talk • contribs) 13:29, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Agreed, it seems that this is a mistake by the Institute for the Study of War, which draws a new front line at March 2 that includes a territory with Shostka, but they didn't provide any comments on this inclusion (see Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, March 1 | Institute for the Study of War (understandingwar.org) vs Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, March 2 | Institute for the Study of War (understandingwar.org) - and the map had reposted by many medias). It was not confirmed by other sources like MilitaryLand.net. 62.16.7.14 14:31, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

https://www.elnorte.ec/diego-un-ecuatoriano-atrapado-en-ucrania-por-la-guerra-y-las-estafas/

This article about Ecuadorians trapped in Shostka suggests it is under Russian control. 71.167.150.112 23:00, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Arrows

Arrows are different sizes. Some have dates, some don't. They are not confusing - but they are prominent and take quite a bit of visual attention, without conveying very much information. Can they be made more informative? Or, if that's not a good option, reduced? 100.37.223.86 14:37, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Shostka

This article about Ecuadorians trapped in Shostka says Shostka is held by the Russians. Should the map be updated?

https://www.elnorte.ec/diego-un-ecuatoriano-atrapado-en-ucrania-por-la-guerra-y-las-estafas/ — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.167.150.112 (talk) 22:59, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

footage of russians in Novotroits'ke just north of volnovakha wion coverage of footage provided by russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HjCVPK6lKw - fireduck

Suggestion

I don't know or have skills to edit the map myself, but if possible please add the evacuation routes refugees are using. Thanks! --131.123.51.70 11:42, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

I appreciate your work. I only watch your map for getting updates about the war. There's no map available like this. Update the map as fast as possible. Thanks! --NiPoo 14:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Voznesensk attack repelled - no Russians in town as of 3/14

According to an on-the-ground report from France24, a reliable source, the Russian attack on Voznesensk has been repelled and the city has no Russian troops as of today (3/14). I would suggest that the "prong" from Kherson past Mykolaiv heading that way be shortened significantly to reflect this. Thanks to all who are keeping the map updated! Ganesha811 (talk) 19:35, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Can confirm, citing the information provided by Twitter user "@JominiW" (this user provides thorough daily analysis of everything going on). According to said user, Russian military has pulled back and is trying to establish bridgehead, further south at the town of Nova Odesa. BasilLeaf (talk) 07:02, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Add Zaporizhzhia - Mariupol highway

Hi, Can you guys add the H-08 Zaporizhzhia - Mariupol highway? This highway is significant for two reasons. Firstly that this highway has been the agreed upon "Humanitarian evacuation corridor" for Mariupol. And secondly, Russian military maneuvers in the direction of Tokmak Polohy and Orikhiv had the purpose of establishing control over this very highway. BasilLeaf (talk) 20:24, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Update for Nikolaev oblast counter-attack?

There are reports of Russian forces pushed away from Nikolaev to the border of Kherson oblast (https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-18), pro-Russian channels such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP_lK47Odm8 seem to corroborate this (but have not seen a confirmation from Russian MOD). Russians are reported to have retaliated with bombardments of military plane and munition storages near Lvov, Voznesensk and Nikolaev (https://vk.com/mil?w=wall-133441491_540944). 90.246.253.201 02:37, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Kherson Oblast

Russia claims to have control over the entire Kherson region: https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/76732/ Multiple sources have picked up the news. Livemap UA seems to support this statement showing advances in the direction of Nikopol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mic Oelkuch (talk • contribs) 09:16, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Kherson Oblast fallen

Russia claims to have control over the entire Kherson region. The Ukrainians have not denied the claim as of now. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2A02:587:4C48:7600:F0FB:F40A:FD73:F6DD (talk) 17:32, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Update?

Can someone update the map around Kyiv, Kharkiv and the south? Thanks, Fogener Haus (talk) 19:03, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

In addition to the above changes, please also:

- Remove the contested pin from Izyum and Balakliia (social media reports clearly indicate these have fallen) - Update front-lines in Southern Ukraine per institute for the study of war map. - Show Shostka as surrounded and surrounding territory as russian controlled per institute for the study of war map. This also lines up with social media reports. - Add Velyka Novosilka to map (russian offensive towards this location).

10:00, 17 March 2022 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.129.27.151 (talk) 22:54, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Media still reports clashes around Izyum, even pro-Russian channels suggest that there are surviving Ukrainian forces in the southern parts. There were new reports of its capture on March 17 on BBC News, but ISW claimed these to be incorrect (and there's been no confirmation of it from Russia either). So I think Izyum should still be marked contested. Balakliya, however, has been captured by Russians two weeks ago; there were reports of Ukrainian counter-attack this week in an attempt to kick out the Russians, but this has failed. 90.246.253.201 01:50, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Add more towns and settlements of a smaller size to contextualise Russian advances in blank areas of the map

for example I feel like donetsk has a good amount of towns and citys that isn't similar to other parts of ukraine - fireduck

we should add more features to the map like the irpin river and other important highways or roads -fireduck — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireduck420 (talk • contribs) 19:43, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Ukrainian counteroffensive on Mykolaiv front continues - Russians pushed back

According to an article in the Wall Street Journal, Russian forces have been pushed out of and away from Mykolaiv. The article states: "In recent days, Ukrainian officials regained access to previously Russian-controlled villages such as Luch, Shevchenkove and Ukrainka southeast of Mykolaiv" and "Then, in the past several days, Ukrainian forces launched a counteroffensive toward Kherson, breaking through Russian lines and going past the boundary between the Mykolaiv and Kherson regions." Looks like Russian forces are definitely pushed back as of a couple of days ago. They may be refocusing on Kyrvyi Rih, but not enough good sourcing there yet. Thank you for keeping the map updated! Ganesha811 (talk) 12:48, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

I second the above update. I have seen video evidence of Ukrainian forces being present in Posad-Pokrovs'ke. Such as the video posted in this link Twitter Link BasilLeaf (talk) 22:03, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Ukrainian Counter-attacks

Please consider colouring the arrows for the Ukrainian counter-attacks in blue rather than in yellow. This would make them easier to see against the yellow'ish background of the Ukrainian held territories.

The blue on yellow might also be appropriate given that the Ukrainian flag is blue and yellow.

The map is excellent work. Many thanks for updating it.

— Preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.113.187.251 (talk) 16:37, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

It might be better to make Ukrainian territory a very light, desaturated yellow and make the arrows a darker, more saturated yellow. This would serve to make the Ukrainian actions much more readable while keeping a similar color scheme to russia's actions (a light red BG and dark red arrows). 9yz (talk) 01:43, 19 March 2022 (UTC)