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Category:Anti-Zionism?

• In what way is any form of anti-Zionism shown in this picture? // Liftarn (talk)
  • Anti-Zionism is an abstraction. Who add this category, feels that this work associates with anti-Zionism. --Starscream (talk) 16:44, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
    • We have to categorise after what's in the image, not how a specific user might feel about it. Btw, compare with File:05 10 05 soldiers in old city 1.jpg // Liftarn (talk)

      • If you are suggesting that anti-Zionism is inappropriate surely that is because you feel this work has no association with anti-Zionism. I rather unconvinced therefore by the attempt to dismiss the anti-Zionism category as wrong because whoever added it felt it was appropriate. There are no right or wrong answers here. Whether a category is or isn't appropriate is a matter of opinion. I would have hoped that everyone would have realised that by now. Adambro (talk) 08:39, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

        • Just apply COM:CAT. That gives the right answer. Commons categories are not flickr tags, for tagging anything that someone feels bad about as category:Bad. The subject of this cartoon is "distorted perceptions of reality", or something like that. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 09:11, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, we have Category:Bias, but it's not the same thing. ;-) // Liftarn (talk)

• • • • The only problem is that Adambro will block Liftarn or me when we remove the category. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 05:37, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
        • With that in mind it is no wonder that those who want to keep the category haven't showed any interested in discussing the matter. // Liftarn (talk)
•  Comment - This last comment is unfair, as I was the first that showed interest in discussing the matter, by starting a threath in Village Pump. Please see my talk page. Alvesgaspar (talk) 07:36, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Polls on categorization

I would like to propose two different polls to sound the opinion of people on the categorization of this image, in the light of COM:CAT. Categorizing Latuff's cartoons has been the source of countless dramas, and some victims, and it is time to reach a consensus and take a reasonable decision. With these polls I'm addressing two different categories: Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism. Please feel free to add others. The questions will be in the form: Do you think that Category: Xxx is adequate for classifying this image?. Please give your opinion using the  Support and  Oppose templates, and keep your comments short. Long comments belong to the discussion sections above. Pertinent sources to the three concepts are w:Anti-Semitism and w:Anti-Zionism Alvesgaspar (talk) 07:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Anti-Semitism

 Question -- Do you think that Category: Anti-Semitism is adequate for classifying this image?

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•  Oppose since there is no direct nor indirect antisemitism in the picture. // Liftarn (talk)
•  Oppose --Starscream (talk) 14:54, 15 October 2010 (UTC) The comment is unnecessary.
•  Oppose -- Per above. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 19:19, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
•  Oppose Railwayfan2005 (talk) 21:01, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Anti-Zionism

 Question -- Do you think that Category: Anti-Zionism is adequate for classifying this image?

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•  Oppose as there is no opposition to the existence of the state of Israel. // Liftarn (talk)
•  Support --Starscream (talk) 14:57, 15 October 2010 (UTC) The mockery of the manner into which media showing relations in this part of the world.
•  Support -- Because the cartoon illustrates opposition to the policies or behaviour of the state of Israel ([1]) -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 15:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Racism

 Question -- Do you think that Category:Racism is adequate for classifying this image?

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• --  Oppose --Starscream (talk) 14:58, 15 October 2010 (UTC) The comment is unnecessary.
•  Oppose -- ??? -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 15:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
•  Comment Perhaps. It does show how different ethnicities are valued differently. // Liftarn (talk)

Critic's comment

The Israelis will not allow themselves make the same mistake as the mighty, armed-to-the teeth Goliath did - Stones, primitive as they may be, in slingshots, are fatal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chesdovi (talk • contribs)

Category:Soldiers of Israel Defense Forces

Caricatures do not belong to Category:Soldiers of Israel Defense Forces.
There is a special category for it: Category:Caricatures of Israel (including all its subcategories). 89.139.171.45 09:05, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Caricatures of Israeli soldiers. 89.139.160.40 15:02, 12 May 2012 (UTC)