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Beginning or first half of a century ?Edit

Hello. Is it possible to use this template for a date like that : «beginning of the 15th century» or «second half of the 15th century» ? Could it be possible to explain how ? Thanks. Mel22 (talk) 18:47, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Just use nested templates e.g. {{Other date|2half|{{Other date|century|15}}}}. Should work. /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 14:22, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
I think it sort of work in most languages, but sometimes it can be grammatically awkward. Beside, nested templates are a bit esoteric and can be problematic because of depth limit, so I think it is better to use an equivalent numerical range when possible, in this case {{other date|between|1450|1500}}.--Zolo (talk) 17:05, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

I have used the same trick on File:Yvonne do Amaral Pereira.jpg for mid-decade: {{otherdate|mid|{{otherdate|decade|1980}}}}. I think this should be documented. John Vandenberg (chat) 03:54, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Documentation of parameters changed to reflect this. Jheald (talk) 21:09, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Update translations: ruEdit

{{edit request}} Please add Russian translations:

turn of the century
|ru=конец {{Roman year|{{{2|}}}}} — начало {{Roman year|{{#expr:{{{2|}}}-1}} }} века до Н.Э.


|ru=конец {{Roman year|{{#expr:{{{2|}}}-1}} }} — начало {{Roman year|{{{2|}}}}} века
turn of the decade
|ru=конец {{{2|}}}-х — начало {{#expr:{{{2|}}}-10}}-х гг. до Н.Э.


|ru=конец {{#expr:{{{2|}}}-10}}-х — начало {{{2|}}}-х гг.
turn of the year
|ru=конец {{{2|}}} — начало {{#expr:{{{2|}}}-1}} г. до Н.Э.


|ru=конец {{#expr:{{{2|}}}-1}} — начало {{{2|}}} г.

--Kaganer (talk) 21:28, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done. I removed "до Н.Э." parts. They are already being added by the {{Era}} template. See {{other date|turn of the century|5|BC|lang=ru}} -> "конец V — начало IV века до н. э.". --Jarekt (talk) 03:58, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

by and circaEdit

Could someone please explain to me the difference (if it exists) between "by" and "circa" parameter… to me, it seems to be "only" a matter language. i.e. people used to scientific/artistic datation will use "circa", while other people will use "by", which means that the whole translation of those parameters could be merged.

If I am wrong, please explain the difference of use :) --Hsarrazin (talk) 21:06, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

As for the merge of {{circa}} and this template, it seems an obvious simplification (reduction of templates number), and I completely agree :) --Hsarrazin (talk) 21:06, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

In English "by" is something very similar to "before". A sentence "He was done by midnight" and "He was done before midnight" means almost the same. --Jarekt (talk) 12:41, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Conjectural dates?Edit

What to do with a date that is precise, but conjectural? -- eg: '1897 (?)'

Circa is wrong, because the source is not saying "roughly the year x"; rather it is saying there is a very strong chance that the year actually was x, but it cannot be sure that this is correct.

What is the best way to deal with such a case? Is it worth adding an option "conjectured" ? Jheald (talk) 15:24, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

I would just add a "(?)" on the outside of the template. I would prefer not to complicate it to much. It is already too messy and really needs to be moved to a module. --Jarekt (talk) 03:11, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Middle of a centuryEdit


Is there a way to indicate « middle of the 15th century » ? I've tried {{other date|middle|{{other date|century|15}}}} which give: mid 15th century (on File:Livre d'heures de Catherine de Rohan et de Françoise de Dinan.jpg) but it's not really “clean” (I could have used {{other date|circa|1450}} or {{other date|s|1450}} but it's not exactly the same).

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 09:39, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

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