User:Multichill/Monuments notes

Just some notes. Multichill (talk) 18:08, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

(feel free to add and/or improve)

en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Historic sites#Historic registers covered contains a nice list

United Kingdom edit

en:Listed building and en:Scheduled monument divided by country (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland). Let's focus on Listed Buildings.

England edit

Wales edit

  • en:Listed buildings in Wales (very incomplete)
  • Who is in charge? "Welsh Historic Monuments" (can't find their site right now) - you want Cadw http://cadw.wales.gov.uk/
  • A couple of months ago I couldn't find anything, now I found http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/listed_buildings_in_wales :-)
    • NUMBER - id field, can't link to the real site, can link to http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/wa-22913
    • REFERENCE - not sure?
    • AUTHORITY - county? (look up what it is exactly)
    • COMMUNITY - what village it is
    • NAME - name, sometimes empty
    • POST_CODE - mostly empty, probably dropping
    • LISTED_AS - often same as name or empty, probably dropping
    • LOCALITY - near what place, often empty, probably dropping
    • NUMBER0 - number in the street, often empty
    • SIDE - NSEW
    • LOCATION - description of the location
    • EASTINGS - conversion code above
    • NORTHINGS - per above
    • LISTED - when it was listed, dropping
    • AMENDED - when it was amended, dropping
    • GRADE - the grade
    • PARK - if it's in a park, dropping
    • PARK_NAME - the name of the park, dropping
    • CHECKED - dunno, dropping
    • CATEGORY - dunno, dropping
    • COMPILEDBY - who made it, dropping
    • AMENDED_BY - who changed it, dropping
  • Again copyright. Cadw (Welsh Historic Monuments) - executive agency of the Welsh Assembly Government, so automatically {{OGL}}

Scotland edit

  • en:Listed buildings in Scotland (very incomplete on Wikipedia right now)
  • There are around 47,400 listed buildings in Scotland. Approximately 8 per cent are in Category A, 51 per cent in Category B and the remainder in Category C(S). From [1]
  • Unique identifier "HB Number". http://hsewsf.sedsh.gov.uk/hslive/hsstart?P_HBNUM=768
  • Incomplete, would be a nice project
  • http://hsewsf.sedsh.gov.uk/pls/htmldb/f?p=2100:10:2280603971327201::NO:::
  • http://hsewsf.sedsh.gov.uk/pls/htmldb/dmzlive.pdfsched?pid=130410132559
  • Data is available as a database (esri file, get the dbf file and open it in Open Office).
  • Database seems to be protected by (crown) copyright making it currently off limits for Wikipedia
  • Database had the following fields:
    • HBNUM, identifier for the listing. Multiple rows can have the same id (7 houses are a grouped listin?) (KEEP, primkey id field)
    • COUNAME, the county (KEEP)
    • PARBUR, that's short for? Something to do with parishes? (KEEP)
    • ITEMNO, not exactly clear (DROP)
    • NP_TEXT, grouping? Not clear (DROP)
    • ADDRESS, more a description of the location. Seems to be attached to the HBNUM (KEEP, for address field)
    • ENTITY_ID, an unique id to define an entity. For example a house. Seems to be unique (DROP)
    • ENTITY_REF, bit like ADDRESS, but more precise (DROP)
    • CATEGORY, A/B/C(S), the listed building category (KEEP)
    • GROUPCAT, a group of listed buildings can also be listed A or B (DROP)
    • LISTDATE1, date of first listing? (KEEP)
    • LISTDATE2, a date, but not clear what it indicates exactly (DROP)
    • X, coordinate, have to look up what system they use (per entity) (KEEP, but convert lat/lon)
    • Y, coordinate, have to look up what system they use (per entity) (KEEP, but convert lat/lon)
    • ACCURACY, how accurate X & Y are? (DROP)
    • NUMLINK, an integer, not unique, not clear what it's used for (DROP)
    • LB_DOC, http://hsewsf.sedsh.gov.uk/hslive/portal.hsstart?P_HBNUM=<HBNUM> (DROP, already have it)
  • Include every entity or just per HBNUM? (my feeling says per entity, but that's probably incompatible with the other parts of the UK) : Just HBNUM
  • Copyright: Historic Scotland - executive agency of the Scottish Executive, so automatically {{OGL}}

Northern Ireland edit

United States edit

Netherlands edit

Antillen edit

Australia edit

Curaçao edit

French Polynesia edit

South Africa edit

The South African Heritage Resources Agency seems to be in charge. Their website is located at http://www.sahra.org.za , but looks like it hasn't been updated since 2006. Their database is located at http://196.35.231.29/sahra/default.aspx . 3400 listings? Looks very good! Should be contacted at info   sahra.org.za . More info at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaza/2012-March/000366.html .

LouriePieterse got the database and I got a copy. The fields are:

  • guid - Seems to be a unique id (integer))
  • SiteReference - Things like "9/2/256/0041" or "9/2/228/241/1". Seems to be unique. Not sure what it is exactly
  • Site/object name - The name, often includes the address
  • Province - The province name. Doesn't seem to be in line with the wp article ("Cape")
  • Name - Name, sometimes better than Site/object name
  • Location - Town/street, sometimes empty
  • Magisterial district - Some sort of subdivision, haven't found the wp article yet
  • Urban - Y/N (DROP)
  • Town - The name of the town
  • Suburb - Suburb of the town
  • Street - Street name, sometimes empty
  • Street number - Street number, sometimes empty
  • Erf number - Some number probably referencing an external entitiy
  • Farm number - Some number probably referencing an external entitiy
  • Portion - Remain something
  • Farmname - Sometimes name of a farm
  • Latitude - Lat (KEEP)
  • Longitude - Lon (KEEP)
  • Significance - Extended description, probably suitable for an article (DROP)
  • NHRA status - Type of status
  • NMC status - Type of status
  • Gazette number - Looks like the id of the gazette in which it got listed. Maybe as a reference to http://www.greengazette.co.za/ ?
  • Gazette date - Looks likde the data of the gazette in which it got listed
  • Chapter type - Mostly "structure" (DROP)
  • Sub type - House/church/... empty (DROP)
  • Current use - How it is used now, mostly empty (DROP)
  • Previous uses - Sometimes filled (DROP)
  • Access - How to get in (DROP)
  • Directions - How to get there (DROP)
  • Military - Boolean (FALSE/TRUE) (DROP)
  • Religious - Boolean (FALSE/TRUE) (DROP)
  • Educational - Boolean (FALSE/TRUE) (DROP)
  • Mining - Boolean (FALSE/TRUE) (DROP)
  • Transport - Boolean (FALSE/TRUE) (DROP)
  • Residential - Boolean (FALSE/TRUE) (DROP)
  • Financial - Boolean (FALSE/TRUE) (DROP)
  • Retail - Boolean (FALSE/TRUE) (DROP)
  • Agricultural - Boolean (FALSE/TRUE) (DROP)
  • Commercial - Boolean (FALSE/TRUE) (DROP)
  • Municipal name - Sometimes it contains a name (DROP)
  • Architectural style - Sometimes contains the style (DROP)
  • Designer - Sometimes contains the designer (DROP)
  • History - Blob of text, good for an article (DROP)
  • Visual description - How does it look? Good for an article (DROP)

Czech Republic edit

Morocco edit

  1. Name in (English - Arabic and French)
  2. Coordinates
  3. Source, légal dahir
  4. Administrative location: Wilaya (Province or Prefecture) and Region

General edit