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Izbori 2008.Edit

Pozdrav. Ova mapa nije baš dobra, potrebno je ispraviti: Bosanski Petrovac, Šekoviće, Foču i Pale. U tim opštinama je SNSD je dobio najviše glasova. Evo ovdje imaš sve pa pogledaj. Vjerovatno ima još grešaka. Tonka (talk) 17:15, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

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Lilic (talk) 03:30, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

File:BiH 1739.pngEdit

Hello Ceha,

Please answer to the issue raised her. --Geagea (talk) 14:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

PaganijaEdit

U redu, ajde da pričamo otvoreno: koji ti je đavo? Da li stvarno želiš da falsifikuješ granice na mapi samo da bi tvoja fiktivna mapa bila nekakva "protivteža" mapi iz srpskog atlasa? Meni ni najmanje ne smetaju hrvatski izvori kao što je ovaj: http://www.croatia-in-english.com/images/maps/800s.jpg Ako je takvo gledište hrvatskih istoričara, to je jedno od validnih gledišta za vikipediju. Međutim, tebe izgleda gledište hrvatskih istoričara ni ne zanima već sam izmišljaš granice. Na ovoj mapi si zadržao granicu Zahumlja iz srpskog atlasa i onda si samo umesto Srbije na mapi nacrtao Hrvatsku: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pagania9st.png I kao izvor za to si mi pokazao ovu mapu hrvatskih dijalekata koju si ti nacrtao: http://oi59.tinypic.com/i3w1ab.jpg Pa mislim, čoveče, jel to neki vid zezanja ili čega već? Jel postoji mogućnost da se uozbiljiš i da diskutuješ o ovome na normalan način? Odnosno, postoji li mogućnost da pokažeš pravu referencu za tvoju mapu ako iste uopšte ima? PANONIAN (talk) 14:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Ako je u pitanju greška, onda u redu. Ipak, ovaj izvor je problematičan: http://free-zg.t-com.hr/Andelko/Slike/DAIzupanije.jpg To je samo mapa nekog lika čiji kredibilitet nam je nepoznat. Zar ne možeš koristiti neki ozbiljniji izvor kao što je ovaj: http://cro-eu.com/galerija-fotografija/albums/userpics/10001/Sl_%202_%20Zupe%20Lika,%20Gacka%20i%20Krbava%20u%20srednjem%20vijeku.jpg Pored toga granicu Zahumlja na tvojoj verziji mape si preuzeo iz srpskog atlasa i ona ne izgleda tako ni na jednoj hrvatskoj mapi, pa čak ni na toj Anđelkovoj. Ako već koristiš neki izvor (pa čak i taj nepouzdan), bar bi trebalo da na svojoj mapi verno prikažeš granice iz tog izvora. PANONIAN (talk) 20:27, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Što se tiče ovih drugih karata, naša tema su granice u 9. veku. Ne sumnjam da je ovo kvalitetna karta, ali u pitanju je 11, vek, a ne 9: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/hr/a/a0/Krešimirova_Hrvatska_1070.jpg Na ovoj nije definisano na koji se vek odnose te granice: http://www.vrilo-mudrosti.hr/razno/vm-karta-crkva%20uoci%20turskih%20osvajanja.jpg Ovo je moderna geografska karta nevezana za 9. vek: http://asimkamber.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/geografske-karta.jpg Ove sa foruma nisi dobro linkovao, jer linkovi vode samo do stranica na forumu. Međutim, na tom forumu postoji jedna karta koja izgleda ozbiljno, a to je ova: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v690/krilnik/Klaic-PHursv.jpg~original Ako prepraviš svoju mapu da ima granice kao na toj karti, to će biti prihvatljivo sa stanovišta kredibilnih izvora. PANONIAN (talk) 20:42, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Tok Neretve pokriva šire područje. Prema tome, čak i ako je tačno da se "većina povjesničara slaže da je granica Zahumlja bila na Neretvi", ne znači da je tu u pitanju ceo tok Neretve. Isto je i sa granicom Hrvatske. Takođe nije bila ista situacija sa granicama u 9. veku, 10. veku ili 11. veku. Jasno mi je da je tvoja karta "kombinacija raznih izvora", ali to je ono što ne treba da radiš na vikipediji. Zadržao si granice Paganije i Zahumlja iz srpskog atlasa i onda si sa tim spojio granice iz tri različita izvora. Pri tome si sam selektivno odlučio šta je u kom od tih izvora tačno a šta nije. To je originalno istraživanje koje ovde ne treba da se radi. Takvo istraživanje mogu da rade ljudi koji imaju diplomu na osnovu koje imaju kredibilitet i koji su pozitivno prihvaćeni od strane akademske zajednice. Znači, ne možemo ti i ja ovde sami izmišljati ili uklapati granice na mapama već moramo granice nacrtati tako da budu iste kao u nekom kredibilnom izvoru. Ove granice kakve si ti napravio se ne podudaraju sa granicama ni u jednom takvom izvoru. Drugim rečima, napravio si hibridnu mapu koja uklapa podatke iz potpuno različitih izvora, što predstavlja "grafičkog Frankenštajna". Ako o nekoj temi postoji više kredibilnih izvora, onda mi ovde treba da nacrtamo više mapa, od kojih će svaka biti identična samo jednom od pomenutih izvora i onda u člancima možemo koristiti te mape i pisati prema kom izvoru je koja rađena. Pored svega toga, ova mapa se odnosi na period kasne antike i nema veze sa 9. vekom: http://cro-eu.com/galerija-fotografija/albums/userpics/10001/Sl_%201_%20Liburnija%20i%20Dalmacija%20u%20doba%20Borne.jpg PANONIAN (talk) 08:25, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Sa druge strane, ako baš i hoćeš da sprovodiš svoje originalno istraživanje ovde, onda ti predlažem da to uradiš sa nekom mapom čiji ja nisam autor. Meni je bitno da mape koje sam ja radio, kao i njihove derivativne verzije budu tačne i zasnovane na kredibilnim izvorima, jer će u suprotnom sutra neko meni pripisivati netačnosti koje budu na nekoj od tih mapa. Zato bi najbolje bilo da na ovoj mapi budu granice prema mapi Nade Klaić: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pagania9st.png U suštini, te granice prema Klaićevoj i nisu mnogo drugačije od ovih koje si ti nacrtao, ali imaju iza sebe jedan kredibilan izvor, što je veoma bitno. PANONIAN (talk) 08:39, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Ajde da pokušamo naći neki kompromis ovde. Evo da probamo sa ovom verzijom: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pagania9st.png Ubacio sam granice sa mape Nade Klaić i one su veoma slične granicama u tvojoj verziji mape. Jedina je razlika što se te granice potpuno oslanjaju na jedan kredibilan izvor i nisu kombinacija potpuno različitih izvora.

Sada imamo ovakve mape:

To sam imao na umu kad sam na početku naše diskusije rekao da treba da postoji više verzija mape. Svaka od njih treba da bude bazirana na jednom kredibilnom izvoru i onda sve one mogu biti u člancima gde će pisati na osnovu kog izvora je koja rađena. Ako misliš da treba da postoje još i mape rađene prema Goldštajnu i onom Anđelku, možemo uraditi i takve. PANONIAN (talk) 09:27, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Paganija po Goldštajnu: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pagania06.png (ako ti koristi za neki članak). PANONIAN (talk) 22:02, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

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Please add reliable sources to your images, with page numbers. Your uploads show intricate detail and should be sourced.--Zoupan (talk) 22:05, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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