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Welcome!

Hello, Cotinis, and welcome to Wikimedia Commons. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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  • A Gallery of your images - please correct any that are untagged or orphans (put them in a category)

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Commoner! If you haven't already done so, you might also want to open an account on a Wikipedia in your preferred language, or one of the other Wikimedia projects. By the way, please be sure to sign your name on Talk and vote pages using four tildes (~~~~) to produce your name and the current date, or three tildes (~~~) for just your name. If you have any questions, drop a note on the village pump, the Help desk, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! --pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:23, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

(PS - be sure to check out Commons:WikiProject Tree of Life! And don't forget to add some images to Phalacrocorax harrisi.)

-Thanks for the welcome and the helpful links. I especially appreciate the links on languages--I've been trying to sort through standards that are out there--without much luck. I'm a native English speaker, but appreciate the need to keep the Commons as international as possible. I'm going to go back and add the appropriate language mark-up to my contributions when I can figure out what it might be.

I've got to scan that public domain image of Phalacrocorax harrisi and upload it--thanks for the reminder. I made the page when I noticed there was a Wikipedia article with no images. (I have a Wikipedia account as well--same user name.)

I'm not having a lot of luck sorting out the whole "categories vs. articles" issue. I am muddling along, like everyone else. I'm usually using articles, but trying to add at least one category to anything I upload. Mostly, these are biological images, so I'm using a Latin binomial (or the genus name) as a category. I'm not really sure that is so helpful when the category does not already exist. Any hints appreciated.

I did read some of the discussion about categories versus articles. I appreciate the usefulness of categories, but my current experience trying to browse anything by categories on Commons is that the pages bog down, even with my good connections (cable modem at home, Ethernet at my workplace). --Cotinis 17:44, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi! For the language issue... well let me do an example. Look at Streptopelia turtur. It doesn't even have English, so the average browser has no idea what this is. So if I paste that name into Wikipedia, I find it is the w:Turtle Dove. On that Wikipedia page, you will notice a set of "interwiki links" on the left at the bottom - links to the same article in other languages. If you edit that article and scroll to the bottom, you'll notice a bunch of links like this:
[[de:Turteltaube]]
If you copy and paste that whole bunch of links here (and add the English one), they will all work from here. You can also easily convert them to language labels. At the top of the page here, write this:
{{de|Turteltaube}}
This will give you this:
Deutsch: Turteltaube
Pretty nifty, huh? You can see an example here: Zenaida macroura. But it seems like not many people do this, although this would be the ideal.
Generally if the species is in the form of an article (Ectopistes migratorius), don't create the corresponding category (Category:Ectopistes migratorius) unless it's very huge. Also, when you create categories, make sure they always have a parent category, i.e. add them themselves to another category (in this case, Category: Columbidae). For for this specific category, I would remove th e images and delete it, because there's only 5 pictures, so it doesn't need it.
It is hard to figure out what level of detail to go to, but if you can, try and find a similar branch that seems well organised and copy what they have done. Or ask for advice at the Commons:Help desk or the tree of life. Generally what I have noticed is... the articles are one-level more detailed than the categories. Seems to be.
I think maybe genus name as category is too detailed. Best to stick to family name. Well, the best thing is, if you are working in a particular area, first spend some time navigating the categories (you can use CatScan, you might find it useful) to see what level of detail is being used, then try to maintain that.
Anyway I think you're doing a great job so far. You're uploading some really lovely pictures, great detail and it's better to see overuse of categories than underuse! :) (But what is the category on this one? Image:Melanerpes formicivorusFJ03P09CA.JPG :P)
OK some final tips. Image:Agrius cingulatusPCCP20030729-2220A.JPG Wow, really amazing. I love it. :) You might like to add images that you've actually taken yourself, to Category:Photographs by Patrick Coin (or whatever wording you like). Then make this a subcategory of Category:User galleries. It's an easy way to group your own personal images, as opposed to scans that you're uploading. Also, you might like to nominate some particularly good images to become Featured pictures. Here are the animal ones so far, so you can get an idea of the standard: Commons:Featured pictures/Animals. Watching COM:FPC (nominations) for a while is not a bad idea either, so you can get an idea of common objections (eg low-res, blurry, cut, inappropriate background... some people are very fussy ;)).
If you have any questions, feel free to ask! (I normally prefer replies to by written on my talk page.) cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 23:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

-Thanks very much, that clears up some confusion. I fixed that bad category on the Acorn Woodpecker. That was in a template, and I forgot to edit it.

Now I guess I'm feeling individual images don't need phylogenetic categories if they are going into an article, which is what I usually do. I had been putting in category:Genus species as a default. I see now that the practice is usually article for species, with a category referring to the family unless there are a whole lot of species in a genus. Now it seems obvious.

Thanks for the other hints, I'll be using them as a guide on language issues, etc.

You can see my photos of insects (1,400 plus) on BugGuide (scroll down to Images submitted by this contributor). I'll be copying a lot of those over to the Commons as I am able.

Wow, wow, wow!!! Really amazing. It is so fantastic that you have decided to share your work with the Commons. We are going to benefit hugely. Thanks, thanks, thanks. :) Just amazing. If, in the future, you want some help with bulk uploading, let me know and I'll do my best to help. pfctdayelise (translate?) 01:09, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

WelcomeEdit

Welcome to commons:WikiProject Tree of Life! TeunSpaans 20:50, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll be contributing photos as I can. I think I more or less have the basic idea of how things are organized.

--Cotinis 01:07, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Language conventions bird articleEdit

Hi Cotinis,

I agree, it makes sense to have a standard format. Using {{en|two letter code captions}} is preferable to '''en:''' manual captions because you can later use CSS to "hide" languages you don't understand. If we one day, hopefully, have 20+ translations, it can save on a lot of visual clutter. Plus it really is meta-information and using the {{en}}-style tag recognises that. The relevant help page would be Commons:Templates for galleries which actually doesn't mention the benefits of these templates but I'll just add that now :). Anyway, I would say feel free to change the format back to the template-style. pfctdayelise (translate?) 03:07, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, what I really need somebody to do is leave a message for that other user explaining this. He/she is systematically going through and changing the format of these language tags on the bird articles I've done on Commons--it just makes no sense. Since I'm a newcomer, I'm hoping you could do that.--Cotinis 15:46, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I will enlist a German speaker to do so. BTW, don't forget to add meaningful content-describing/topic categories to your images, eg. Image:Hyla chrysoscelisPCCA20060405-2996B.jpg. pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:18, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks very much. With regards to categories, I'm not really clear on how they should be used. I've been putting all material I've uploaded into articles, usually by species, and the articles are part of the cateogry tree. I'm not sure I see the utility of putting a category on every image that puts the image into the category tree at some place other than its article's place. For instance, on Image:Hyla chrysoscelisPCCA20060405-2996B.jpg, I don't see the point in including category:Hylidae or whatever on an individual image. (The article Hyla chrysoscelis is in category Hylidae.) This leads to a confusing mix of articles and images being displayed on the category pages. In my experience, too, category pages with lots of image thumbnails bog down and fail to load the images much of the time, especially during the day, when servers seem to be busy. I don't know what your experience is on that, but mine is pretty consistently bad. --Cotinis 10:58, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Format der Sprache (Language formats)Edit

Translation using Babelfish: Ihre Anmerkung (user:Factumquintus), 16:10, 7 June 2006: no, zwinge mir hier keine templates auf

Entschuldigungen, glaube ich, als ob Sie Ihre Schablone nach mir zwingen, da ich die Seite (Sayornis phoebe) zuerst schrieb. Ich möchte nur tun, was korrekt ist. Wieder Entschuldigungen, daß ich nicht Deutsches spreche.

Ich wünsche nicht einen Krieg des Redigierens. Können wir nicht über ein allgemeines Format einigSEIN? Es gibt soviel die getan zu werden Arbeit, es scheint vergeblich, damit wir gegeneinander arbeiten.

Mit Komplimenten --Cotinis 17:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Original (English)

Your comment 16:10, 7 June 2006: No, force no templates upon me

Apologies, I feel as if you are forcing your template upon me, since I wrote the page Sayornis phoebe initially. I only want to do what is correct. Again, apologies that I do not speak German.

I do not want an edit war. Can we not agree on a common format? There is so much work to be done, it seems futile for us to work against each other. With compliments, --Cotinis 17:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Cotinis. Sorry, my english is so bad, that I can't you this explaining. -->see User talk:Duesentrieb#Sprachprobleme zwischen mir und User:Cotinis. I have ask Duesentrieb if he can translation my answer. --> User talk:Factumquintus#Bildbeschreibung. I understand english, but I have problems to write. greets --Factumquintus 21:36, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi CotinisEdit

Hello,

I saw your pictures and would be interested in using them. I work for a publisher in Greece, and i am currently working on replacing some old photos with new ones. Could you please inform me of copyrights or usage limitations?

Thank you

greets Eirini

They are all cc-by-sa 2.5. If you need other licensing, which is probably going to be true for most publications, e-mail me at
natureATcotinisDOTcom
(Replace the "AT" with "@" and the "DOT" with "." to form the address, of course.)
--Cotinis 20:42, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Category:TetraonidaeEdit

Please, don't use anymore this nonexistent family. See wikispecies:Galliformes. --Juiced lemon 16:42, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

FrogEdit

Image:Rana clamitansPCSL13327B.jpg

Green Frog with Dorsolateral ridges
Bullfrog with curved ridge

The image Image:Rana clamitansPCSL13327B.jpg is labeled as a Rana clamitans, but I think it is a Rana catesbeiana on account of the ridges along the eye. A Green Frog has two Dorsolateral ridges while a Bullfrog has a curving ridge along the eardrum. Ram-Man 01:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Looks correct, thanks! I'll get around to correcting this in a few days--very busy right now. --Cotinis 21:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
I can fix it, I just wanted to be positive. I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, so it was possible that you were or that you had an expert perform the identification. But if you are in agreement, I'll make the changes. Later! Ram-Man 19:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

ToL Newsletter issue 1Edit

The inaugural newsletter of the Tree of Life project has been published. You are welcome to read the newsletter, comment on its contents, frequency and form, or unsubscribe by putting your name on my talk page.

Teun Spaans 21:45, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

VerdinEdit

I have linked to your Verdin photo on:
Sonoran Desert Naturalist I hope this is okay with you. I've got verdins in my yard every day, but they don't often sit still enough for a picture.
You've got quite an assortment of very nice photographs!

Mike

No problem, the point of the photo here on Commons is to be used. You can even copy it to another site with proper attribution according to the license--linked in the caption to the photo.Cotinis 03:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
I added a link to the license info to Sonoran Desert Naturalist. I hope I've done so as you expect. Mike
Thanks, that looks great!--Cotinis 14:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Ants and termitesEdit

Hi there, you have yourself down as an entomologist, so I'm randomly picking you to ask! I've just created Category:Ant hills and Category:Termite mounds, because these seemed useful from the general landscape point of view, and if anyone gets keen on categorising animal homes or animal architecture. But I've categorised according to the uploaders' own descrips, and personally I reckon some of those "ant hills" are termite mounds.

Any chance you look through the cats and see if they're good? Cheers, JackyR 00:41, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm unfortunately not a formally-trained entomologist. This one CPonte anthill2.jpg looks like a termite mound to me, but I'm really not sure--ants are such a diverse group that I certainly am not going to make a judgment on that--out of my league. Cotinis 03:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Bird Pictures:Edit

Hello cotinis, My name is Zahid and i really appreciate your work done in public domain images. Actually i want to know the source url(if available online) you have specified in the picture(http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Zenaida_macrouraFJ03P07CA.JPG) "Wildlife portrait series Govt Doc no: I 49.71:3 and others". Actually i want whole 50 pictures for my upcoming web site for birds. I have found the smaller resolution pictures on http://www.wpclipart.com/animals/birds/U.S._Common/index.html but i need higher resolution pictures.These were first made by Louis Agassiz Fuertes and then redone by Robert Hines in the book: Fifty Birds of Town and City. The original book with the Fuertes drawings was called Fifty Common Birds of Farm and Orchard. Thanks for your time.

The Hines portrait series was a USFWS publication, and they are large prints. I found a few of them on e-bay at a reasonable cost and scanned them--they are not available on-line. You can see some more of this art work in my gallery. Note that since these were scanned from offset prints, they have to be downsampled to make images without Moire patterns. I've found that the resolution I posted to Commons are about as much as you can tease out of the original scans and still have acceptable quality. The "fifty birds" publications, in particular, have quite small reproductions, and there is just not much there to work with. They are adequate for in-line images on the web, but not much else. --Cotinis 12:28, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Oceanites_oceanicusPCCA20070623-3634B.jpgEdit

Dear Patrick:

EPIC Foundation (Environmental Protection of the Islands of the Corridor) is a non-profit institution founded in 2004 by Eduardo Acosta, a experienced diver and Nature lover who has focused it on the protection of Pacific Marine Corridor and the Costa Rican Thermical Dome.

As mass media and public are not quite definitely involving oceans into the “environmental risk” priorities, EPIC Foundation has defined its Mission as “to educate the new generations about its sustainable conservation”.

In order to perform its mission, EPIC Foundation established two main courses of action:

1– To create a “Environmental Alphabetization” innovative program providing all youths with the highest quality environmental education and team experience through eco-travel participation as principal tools of cultural change and evolution.

2– To focus the educational effort on the protection of marine eco-systems within the Pacific Marine Corridor and Costa Rican Thermical Dome due to its global environmental relevance and its proximity to the targeted publics.

The EPIC Foundation’s short-term and medium-term objectives are:

• To officially introduce Oceans into the Global Environmental Agenda because of its crucial influence on the climate change impact. • To improve the cultural exchange between youths from different countries interlaced by the Pacific Marine Corridor. • To propitiate the rational use of resources and budgets applied to the control, protection and conservation of environmentally selected areas through international agreements signed by the concomitant countries.

For that purpose, EPIC Foundation will apply the requested photographic materials to publish the second and augmented edition of a non-profit educative text book entitled “HOPE: Rescue the Dome”, dealing with the threats impending over the oceans, emphasizing on the Costa Rican Thermical Dome, the Pacific Marine Corridor and the corresponding islands: Galapagos (Ecuador), Gorgona and Malpelo (Colombia), Coiba (Panama) and Coco’s Island (Costa Rica).

In the countries that will be covered by the “Environmental Alphabetization Program” the educative text books distribution will be completely free of charge for students from 7 to 13 years old. This public comprehends more than 700.000 youths only in Costa Rica.

The original publishing will include a Spanish version and an English version. The last one will be distributed around the United States of America, Europe and Japan to generate sells and donations that will be applied to re-printing and distribution of additional books.

The images support a very important part of the book’s educational power and in order to achieve the best possible printing quality we need the requested materials in high-resolution files.

At one side of each licensed image the HOPE book will include the author’s name or the publishing rights proprietary. The mentions will be repeated at a special credits’ page.

We are asking for written permissions sent to the mail address: jorge.serendero@sipcomgreen.com. Once received the authorizations we’ll send you a Username and Password to upload the materials to a ftp site.

The materials we’re asking you for are:

Wilson's Petrel File: Oceanites_oceanicusPCCA20070623-3634B.jpg Author: Patrick Coin Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Oceanites_oceanicusPCCA20070623-3634B.jpg

Thanking you in advance for your comprehension and commitment, we remain very truly yours.

Jorge Serendero EPIC Foudation – Executive Director www.epiccostarica.com

PS: Aldo Oliveros, the talk-user, is also a member and contributor of EPIC Foundation.

You can use that version linked above with proper attribution, according to the cc-by-sa-2.5 license. --Cotinis 14:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

BlatchleyEdit

Saw your image-started the page [1]. Interesting man.ATB from Ireland Notafly (talk) 21:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

File:Notophthalmus viridescensPCCA20040816-3983A.jpgEdit

Hi. Could you add geolocation for this image? I would like to nominate it for Valued image. Thanks. Lycaon (talk) 15:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Did it. --Cotinis (talk) 19:46, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Request for commentEdit

Discussion regarding the Categories "Fossil xxx" is occurring on Wp:ToL (here). As a member of the project you input is requested in to gain a larger view of the communities opinion on how to handle the points raised. Thanks --Kevmin (talk) 18:23, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing imagesEdit

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Hello, Cotinis!

Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

Uploadwizard-categories.png

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]
[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations"). Pro-tip: The CommonSense tool can help you find the best category for your image.

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 10:16, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I believe all of these have been categorized as requested. --Cotinis (talk) 20:51, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Permission to use Eumeces fasciatusEdit

I'm writing you seeking permission to use your a few of your images for educational purposes (Habitats for rare species etc.), through the creation of Rare Species collector cards (baseball cardish). I realize these images fall under the creative commons licence, but I'm a little unsure of this particular use would be acceptable under that licence. If you could please message me, I would very much apprecaite it. Thank You,

Thanks for asking--that sort of use is allowed under the license. Please attribute to "Patrick Coin". --Cotinis (talk) 20:49, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

File:Trogon elegansAQBIP02CA.jpgEdit

Hi Cotinis - I checked this one out; it is Trogon elegans as originally titled, not T. mexicanus as you thought. T. elegans has the tail underside finely barred, whereas T. mexicanus has solid black bands (see File:Trogon mexicanus John Gould.jpg). You may want to check any pages the T. elegans image is used on. Thanks! - MPF (talk) 18:17, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh thanks, I should have been more careful on that--I had originally categorized it under Trogon elegans, but then realized the name on the illustration was Trogon mexicanus. I will change the category.--Cotinis (talk) 10:06, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


Hi Patrick, I've converted your speedy into a regular DR, as I had recommend to you already in my reply. See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Megalopyge opercularisMPCCP20040714-5799A.JPG. --Túrelio (talk) 08:01, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

I use one of your photosEdit

Hi Patrick!

I have use a photo of Tinamus major in my free software educational proyect "Animalandia" (http://herramientas.educa.madrid.org/animalandia)

You can see directy in the follow lin:

http://herramientas.educa.madrid.org/animalandia/imagen.php?id=32877

If you wish, you can send me some letters or/and a photo for your "contributor card" in Animalandia: http://herramientas.educa.madrid.org/animalandia/autor.php?nombre=Patrick%20Coin

This is my "contributor card", for example: http://herramientas.educa.madrid.org/animalandia/autor.php?nombre=Fernando%20Lis%F3n%20Mart%EDn


In the future, I use more of your photos, I sure!

Thank you for the licence and, of course, for your splendid photos!! Regards! Fernando Lisón

--Fernando.lison (talk)

Photo usageEdit

Hi, I'm working on an educational videogame with which I'm trying to build a bridge between animal awareness and Pokemon fans among others. It started out as something small and I contacted you before but it's getting bigger and more professional and I wanted to make sure you were ok with it.

I saw your pictures: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brachinus_spPCCA20060328-2821B.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cheilopogon_melanurusPCCA20070623-3956B.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Megalopyge_opercularisPCCP20040714-5799B.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stercorarius_pomarinusPCCA20070623-3985B.jpg

And I would like your permission to use them under those licenses with the following attribution: Patrick Coin, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Cotinis

Also, because I want to make sure there's no misunderstanding, you are the original photographer correct? It sometimes happens that another person simply takes a picture from somebody else and uploads it to wikipedia with a license to distribute. That is why I'm asking.

There is more information on the game here, including a short video that tells a little bit about the background: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/238178285/animalalbum

I also have a demo version of the game available so you can see for yourself in what way the pictures are presented: http://dromedarydreams.com/index/demo/0-8

Please let me know if I have your permission, if the pictures are yours and if you want a different attribution.

With kind regards, Sjors Jansen (all.animalalbum@gmail.com) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Garfunkel_Jansen

Yes, I am the original photographer on those photos and your use is consistent with the license, so have fun. That photo credit is fine. Thanks for your kind and careful inquiry! --Cotinis (talk) 23:21, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! I'll do my best to turn it into a great game! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Garfunkel_Jansen

Permission for PhotoEdit

Dear Patrick, for our student textbook about Charles Darwin (Die Entstehung der Arten, illustrated and commented by Paul Wrede and Saskia Wrede) we kindly ask you for permission to use the coloured photo of the Flying Fish.

Our book will be published in German by VCH-Wiley. It is addressed to beginners in biology like students or highly educated laymen. Publication will be December 2012.

With best regards

Paul Wrede

Prof. Paul Wrede Charite-Universitätsmedizin Berlin Institut für Molekularbiologie und Bioinformatik Arnimallee 22 14195 Berlin (Germany) Email: paul.wrede@charite.de

Permission to use Great-tailed Grackle photoEdit

Hi -- I'm a researcher/graduate student at the University of Florida, and I was wondering if I could ask your permission to use your Great-tailed Grackle photo ([[2]]) for a journal publication. I understand the photo is currently licensed under Creative Commons, but I wanted to make sure it was ok with you before using it. If I were to use it, I would cite you as the photographer. Best, Ashley Sharpe

AESharpe (talk) 14:12, 1 March 2013 (UTC)Ashley Sharpe

Yes, of course, that is fine. Photo credit to my real name (Patrick Coin) --Cotinis (talk) 20:48, 1 March 2013 (UTC)