User talk:Donald Trung/Archive 444

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Vương Tứ Đại (王賜大)

Hello, Donald Trung,

I came across this group photograph (see the link below), taken in 1924, which you may have seen, and which, according to the caption, includes "S.E. Vuong Tu Dai, Tuan Vu de Quang Tri". Unfortunately, apart from a few well-known figures (Nguyen Huu Bai, Ton That Han, Ho Dac Trung...), the names and locations in this photo of other people have not yet been matched.

In addition, the quality of this photo is not very good. Maybe you can contact NAAVH for more information and a high resolution image.

The photo: AP0821-Sogny-Marien 源義信 (talk) 11:01, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Update: I have uploaded it.
 
Group photo
源義信 (talk) 11:20, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
源義信, I have already contacted the NAAVH a year or more ago, their reaction was "we donated our collection to a library (they told me which one but I forgot) and everything we still have we have already published online", they don't even have old versions of their magazine anymore. While their website is a great resource to import from, it's not their old magazine. ☹️☹️☹️ Usually I can find old photographs at the Flickr user "Manhhai", but even that doesn't always come with all results. — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 12:23, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Also, I use a mobile telephone 📱, unfortunately I can't find the annotations.... — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 12:27, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Oh, I see. By the way, what happened to their website before? There were many photographs on the website and the links are now all invalid, I can only find them on Flickr (manhhai's page) and Commons (thanks to your work), and then use Wayback Machine to read the original page. 源義信 (talk) 12:33, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
源義信, No, I mean their paper magazines, they used to issue a paper magazine that was created during the Nguyễn Dynasty period. However, as far as I know they stopped issuing it and according to the sitemaster I contacted they donated their archives to the French government. I will see if I can find the old e-mail I received. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 12:38, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
I can't find the e-mail, I might have contacted them through another platform. Feel free to e-mail them yourself as I really can't remember where or how I contacted them. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 12:42, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

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--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 16:03, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

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Selection of the U4C Building Committee


The next stage in the Universal Code of Conduct process is establishing a Building Committee to create the charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C). The Building Committee has been selected. Read about the members and the work ahead on Meta-wiki.

-- UCoC Project Team, 04:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

To keep an eye 👁️ on while these things develop. Will have to see if it's actually possible for users banned by the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) will be able to appeal their bans in either the near or the distant figure. Reminder to myself to continue following these developments to see how they unpack. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:46, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Need help

I have found these images containing the sheet music as well as Sinh Viên Hành Khúc / Tiếng gọi thanh niên's lyrics in French and Vietnamese. I think these are worth being included in Wikimedia Commons. However, I do not know how to. Please help whenever you'll have the time to. Thanks in advance! Erminwin (talk) 21:37, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Erminwin, I will copy this message there and I'll ping you there so I can explain how to import works using local links. As they say "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime". — Donald Trung (talk) 21:56, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
  • @Erminwin: , before uploading anything to the Wikimedia Commons I would advise you to read the page "Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Vietnam", specifically: "Under 2005 Law, cinematographic works, photographic works, dramatic works, works of applied art and anonymous works where the author remains unknown have a term of protection of 50 years from the date of first publication.[50/2005 Article 27(2a)] Under 2009 Amendment, from January 1st 2010, cinematographic works, photographic works, works of applied art and anonymous works where the author remains unknown have a term of protection of 75 years from the date of first publication.[36/2009 Article 27(2a)] Works which entered public domain prior to January 1st 2010 remained in the public domain even if they now qualified for copyright protection. And those works whose copyright terms have not expired on January 1st 2010 now prolong to 75 years.[36/2009 Article 220]".
the authors are LyricLyric 1: (1941): Lưu Hữu Phước, Mai Văn Bộ, Lyric 2: (1943) Lê Khắc Thiều, Đặng Ngọc Tốt, and Lyric 3: (1945) Hoàng Mai Lưu. As this is a work of applied art it ascended to the public domain in 1995, at least if you are certain that the sheet music you found is an exact reproduction of the original sheet music.
Now we get to uploading, you go to "Special:UploadWizard" 🪄, you then select the files from your cellular phone 🤳, then you'll add the source (where you found the files) and authors. If these files are indeed published before 1 January 1948 you can add "{{PD-Vietnam}}" and "{{PD-1996}}" you do this by selecting "This file is not my own work." and then "Another reason not mentioned above", then you simply name and describe the file and hit "Publish files". --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 22:10, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Very helpful! Many thanks! Erminwin (talk) 22:33, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Erminwin, Also, I would advise you to read the page "Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag" which is helpful for photographs taken from a distance. — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 08:10, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
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