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File:Thin Blue Line Flag (Switzerland).svg

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Willi P (talk) 07:29, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

File:Vlag stad Enschede.jpg

Make the new SVG flag of Enschede pls, Its adopted 3 days ago. Alexphangia Talk 17:54, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

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Blazons

Hi. When adding a blazon to the file description of a coat of arms in any language, please state a reliable source in that language. Don't make it up yourself or presume that an auto-translation from another language will be correct. Thank you! ARK (talk) 08:29, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Is there is a reason for that? We could ask the municipalities for the blason. I tried finding the French language version of the blason but with no luck. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 13:31, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

There is a very good reason, thanks for asking! Blazons are terse little works of art written in a very technical, very esoteric manner that varies unpredictably from one language to another. The art was first evolved in French during Renaissance times and then was adopted, in translations that first needed to be worked out, by the various other languages spoken and written on the European continent. In different places this happened during different periods: the British were a lot quicker to adopt and adapt the art from the French than were the Germans, for instance. Every language has its own quirks when it comes to the heraldic terms of art, the manner in which certain things are described or counted, etcetera and so forth. As a consequence, it's virtually impossible for anyone, even a native speaker of the target language, to translate a blazon without substantial study and training in the art. If, as a non-expert, you attempt such translation regardless, you're sure to embarrass yourself, and embarrass Commons as well.

To illustrate, I've provided the correct French blazon of the Le Châtelard FR arms, complete with a reference to a reliable source. No amount of Google Translate or Deepl.com would have taken you from Galliker's Neungeschacht von Gelb und Blau to the French Cinq points d'azur, équipollés de quatre d'or – blazons are just too different in different languages.

It should also be noted that on Commons blazons are supposed to be backed up by a reliable source, so simply making stuff up is not an option.

Your faith in the heraldic expertise of Swiss municipal authorities is admirable but entirely misplaced. People with any understanding of heraldry have traditionally been, and still are, associated with the cantonal State Archives rather than the municipal offices. These archives are the places where the various heraldic commissions have come from in their pursuit of "cleaning up" their respective canton's set of municipal arms and making sure these arms conform to heraldic rules. A good contemporary example of this is the canton of Graubünden, which, unusually, has a permanent heraldic commission working at its State Archive. This commission recently published Graubünden's complete municipal armorial, currently 101 coats of arms, in a number of file formats, including SVG. The armorial also provides a blazon for every coat of arms in all three of the canton's official languages: German, Rumantsch and Italian. Incidentally, I've started uploading these arms with their blazons in all three languages. To date, I've got from Albula/Alvra to Flims, nearly halfway through. If you'd like, have at it and help me upload the remaining arms and blazons!

More generally, your best bet for correct municipal blazons in the official language(s) of any given canton is to look them up in the cantonal armorial. The German Wikipedia has a pretty good list of those. ARK (talk) 19:43, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

File:Flag of the Vatican City (1929-2001).svg

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Veverve (talk) 15:51, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks & a request

Hi, thanks for creating File:Flag of Bangladesh and France.svg. Long time ago i created File:Flag of Bangladesh and Italy.svg but now i forgot how to do it. If you have time, can you create two more please (File:Flag of Bangladesh and India.svg & File:Flag of Bangladesh and the United Kingdom.svg, in those two places, there are lot's of Bangladeshi lives). Thanks. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 18:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Auswil COA

I've contacted the municipality of Auswil and requested proof of any formal resolution taken to switch the stars from yellow to white. They responded saying they couldn't find any such resolution and advised me to hang on to the yellow. I suggested in turn that they help themselves to the revised coat of arms on Commons and use in on their website. ARK (talk) 09:09, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

@ARK: if you get an advise to use yellow stars it will be very helpful to document such a dialogue onto the description page while the municipality uses white stars on their official web page. – Doc Taxon • Talk • 19:53, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

@Doc Taxon: I'm still in an ongoing exchange of emails with the municipal president. She says that a former president claims that the yellow stars displayed in the Wappenbuch des Kantons Bern are "incorrect". I reminded her that the arms in that armorial have been approved by the executive branch of the cantonal government. I also informed her that under Wikipedia guidelines I cannot accept a former president's say-so as a reliable source, and that she would have to show me any formal decision, in writing, that may have been taken by the municipality to change the stars from yellow to white. She says she can't find any such decision. ARK (talk) 08:50, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

@ARK: Ach, ich schreibe mal deutsch, kann ich mich wohl besser ausdrücken: Was Du schreibst, dachte ich mir schon. Es geht nur darum, falls es da Diskrepanzen gibt, die eine Seite eben nicht formal bestätigen kann, sollte eine direkte Änderung der Tingierung in der Dateibeschreibung dokumentiert werden. Als Benutzer muss es einem doch komisch vorkommen, wenn jemand plötzlich die Sterntingierung ändert, und dann noch entgegen der offiziellen Webseiten der Gemeinde. Nur darum ging es mir ... – Doc Taxon • Talk • 12:52, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

@Doc Taxon: Ich habe soeben das Wappenbuch des Kantons Bern noch einmal zur Hand genommen und Auswil nachgeschlagen. Es ist nun so, dass darin die Sterne im Aufriss des Wappens zwar gelb angemalt sind, dass die Blasonierung jedoch "silberne Sterne" meldet. Der Fehler liegt damit wohl in der Zeichnung des Wappenbuchs. Ich werde die Sterne also wieder weiss machen. ARK (talk) 16:36, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

@ARK: dann dürfen die Flaggen aber nicht vergessen werden. – Doc Taxon • Talk • 20:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

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Maksim L. (talk) 22:32, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

File:Flag of the State border committee of Republic of Belarus.svg

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Maksim L. (talk) 22:33, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Blazon-Project category

Hi SpinnerLaserzthe2nd,
The newly created "SVG coats of arms made for Project Blasons" category is redundant and useless.
The SVG coats of arms of France category is managed by the Blazon-Project template. It's a hidden categorie where all files that contain template Blazon-Project are categorized, meaning all images in it are made for Blazon-Project.
I agree that it could be renamed, but this has to be done by a template editor.
Cordialement,
Kontributor 2K (talk) 8:11, 1 november 2023 (UTC)

But it contains coats of arms that are not from France. I checked that category and I saw several Spanish ones and Swiss ones. Is there is a reason why should be done by a template editor? Sarang is deceased. I find this to be nonsensical that there are non-French coats of arms in that category. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 08:24, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes I agree,

Let's say that it could mean the files in it were made in France.

Above all it's a technical category, hidden, that one shouldn't care of at the moment

Some template editor will manage this, but not for now I think, I don't know who will manage this after Sarang

& most of all, in english it's Blazon-Project, absolutely not Project Blasons

Cordialement,--Kontributor 2K (talk) 8:40, 1 november 2023 (UTC)

Please also note that sub-categories of SVG coats of arms of France do also contain files that do not use the Blazon-Project template… which adds difficulty to a reorganization, if any

--Kontributor 2K (talk) 9:04, 1 november 2023 (UTC)

Moving license info

Hi SpinnerLaserz, I saw that you moved the license templates from the license-info header to the permission field of a bunch of files. While this isn't a big deal, it's generally recommended that these templates get put under their own header if they take up a lot of space, this is also what the description of the permission parameter says at Template:Information. I moved the templates back, though I kept the changes/additions you made to the templates themselves. ReneeWrites (talk) 23:43, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Please don't reuse bad designs

Hi, with the new rules about overwritings I would rather you stop uploading repurposed bad designs like File:CHE Betten COA.svg or File:CHE Termen COA.svg. The goal is to make the new versions as perfect as possible to avoid having to make them again. If you use designs that are incorrect or badly drawn then you're only taking the "CHE ... COA" space and I'll have to reupload a different file with another name to make the definitive version. There's no rush and we don't need to just reuse what's already in place (if it's a good drawing like Taktaal's files why not). If you agree it would be better to let me handle the VS COAs to have a consistent style over the whole set. For the other cantons I don't really care but it would be nice to be mindful of the designs. Thanks, Espandero (talk) 20:22, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi there, you can replace these with the correct ones. Don't forget to do the flag ones too, no municipalities cannot go without a flag too. I tried reusing your COA files for the flags. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 20:40, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. And thank you as well for the flags. I don't have a lot of time so I'm focusing on the COAs. I'll try to find some time to make the flags for the next ones. - Espandero (talk) 21:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi, just so you know the Bettmeralp COA isn't really the one that's in use. The real COA of Bettmeralp is the old one from Betten. Please see W:de:Diskussion:Bettmeralp VS. I'll add a note on the Bettmeralp file. - Espandero (talk) 22:04, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

I thought Bettmeralp had a new coat of arms. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 22:07, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Apparently not. It says there as well that the COA is the one from Betten. Apparently the version on Commons was proposed before the fusion and then not used. - Espandero (talk) 22:12, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

So, in other words, this means that the Bettmeralp flag is not in use? SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 22:14, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

It means File:Coat of arms of Bettmeralp.png is not in use, yes. - Espandero (talk) 22:17, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Source for colors

Hi SpinnerLaserz, I saw that you changed the colors of a couple of files I uploaded, for example File:Flag of Tosashimizu, Kochi.svg and File:Flag of Kitanakagusuku, Okinawa.svg, can I know what source you used? I just used the images already uploaded to Commons before as a reference for the design and colors of these images, but if there are better or more accurate sources available, I'd like to know. ReneeWrites (talk) 08:53, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

FOTW SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 08:53, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Template:Zionist symbol

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GPSLeo (talk) 12:19, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

File:DEU Bad Wildbad Flag.svg

Hallo, eine Hissflagge für Bad Wildbad gibt es nicht (und schon erst gar nicht in diesem Seitenverhältnis), und habe ich auch noch nie gesehen. Die Bannerflagge habe ich selbst schon gesehen. Bitte liefere einen Beweis dafür, dass diese Flagge als Hoheitszeichen existiert oder lass diese bitte löschen. Danke, – Doc Taxon • Talk • 10:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Willst Du nicht antworten? – Doc Taxon • Talk • 10:12, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

koenigsbanner.de is an invalid source because they puzzle flags from Commons files and sell them. – Doc Taxon • Talk • 10:16, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

So, that site steals files? Which site should I use instead? We could call the horizontal flags de facto because it is not mention in law (I do seen photos a long ago where rare horizontal flags were used in real life). Could you maybe email the municipality? SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 17:12, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

The flag is not "de facto", it's fictional. The category should be renamed as "fictional flags ..." without any other categories. We must not invent flags! – Doc Taxon • Talk • 18:46, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Still, we could ask the municipality to see if the flag exists or not as most horizontal flags in Germany had elements of vertical ones. How could this be fictional? If we can’t find it, we can email the municipality (which I already did and I will await a reply to them). Probably leave it as it is until we get a reply from the municipal government then we could change it. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 18:55, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Not many municipalities of Baden-Württemberg, Bavaria and Hesse has horizontal flags. If there was never used a horizontal flag in official case then the flag is fictional. There only exist approved flags as official. In Bad Wildbad I really saw the vertical flag flown very often but never ever a horizontal one. If you like please ask the municipality, I will await for the answer. But until that I will change the presence of the vertical flag in the Wikipedia articles because this is the safe one up to now and well-known. Thank you, – Doc Taxon • Talk • 19:38, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I also asked Kerl too to do the same with emails. I mean Southern Germany is really different when it comes to flags. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 19:39, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Please note that there is no coat of arms on the flag of Bad Wildbad. – Doc Taxon • Talk • 19:44, 7 February 2024 (UTC)