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Recent changes
- All accounts are now unique and work on all wikis. [1] [2]
- You can read a report from experts who tested the security of MediaWiki. [3]
- There was a problem between VisualEditor and an antivirus software. It is now fixed. [4]
- You can help test VisualEditor to see if it works in your language. [5]
Problems
- Some Labs tools had problems due to a software bug. [6]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 22. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from April 28. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 29 (calendar).
- It is now clearer that you can delete several rows and columns when you edit tables in VisualEditor. [7]
- You now see more information when you search for a template in VisualEditor. [8]
- You can now cancel when you add citations on desktop, or edit links on mobile, in VisualEditor. [9]
- You can now see the list of other formats for videos only after they're ready. [10]
Meetings
- You can join the next weekly meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on April 29 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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15:10, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now chat with other users in Phabricator. [11]
- There was a rare problem with VisualEditor. The text of another wiki could be added to your edit. The issue is now fixed. [12] [13]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 29. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from May 5. It will be on all Wikipedias from May 6 (calendar).
- It is now easier to add a link in VisualEditor. You can see an image and a description about the page. [14]
Meetings
- You can join a meeting with the Language team. The meeting will be on May 5 at 14:30 (UTC). [15]
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on May 6 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join an event in France on May 22−25. You need to sign up before May 8. [16]
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15:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
No review by FlickreviewR 2?
Hi there! I uploaded this image a while ago and the bot hasn't confirmed the license, I wonder why. Palosirkka (talk) 15:02, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
It could not process File:Seattle_-_Franklin_and_Howe,_1961.gif, and your image got blocked by it. Now manually reviewed, and the bot should go over it in a while. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:09, 5 May 2015 (UTC)- The file cannot pass file verification, meaning that MediaWiki suspect some malicious code in the original full-sized image. I'll manually review the image for now. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:03, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, perhaps such files could be put to some category for human intervention. Palosirkka (talk) 20:22, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
The copyright status of the image was undeterminable by the bot
There are currently several hundred flower images such as File:Bee Orchid - Ophrys apifera (14167512660).jpg in Category:Flickr images needing human review. These are all from the same Flickr account, all have the same resolution and EOS 600d EXIF, and all show a clear free license at the Flickr source. Why has the bot dumped them into the human review cat when none of these really needs to be reviewed by a person? INeverCry 01:37, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- "size_not_found" is returned in line 147. I'm looking into it. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:22, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- Oh I see. It's caused by EXIF Orientation. So the Commons image size is 3,456 × 5,184 and the Flickr one is 5184 x 3456.
I'll try to fix this.--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:39, 10 May 2015 (UTC) - Can't. Fixing will break "Replacing image by its original image from Flickr" --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:50, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- Ouch. That's 500 images that have to be hand-reviewed because of such a minor issue. @99of9: @Steinsplitter: @Rillke: Any ideas on how a review of these 500+ images could be automated? Reviewing these one by one would really be a complete waste of a reviewer's time. I also wonder if/when this will happen again. What if the next time it happens, it's a stream with thousands of images... INeverCry 04:23, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Done with AWB. --Steinsplitter (talk) 06:26, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Steinsplitter. I saw you all over the recent changes. I was thinking of the same solution, but I don't have AWB access...
INeverCry 06:42, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Steinsplitter. I saw you all over the recent changes. I was thinking of the same solution, but I don't have AWB access...
Support request with team editing experiment project
Dear tech ambassadors, instead of spamming the Village Pump of each Wikipedia about my tiny project proposal for researching team editing (see here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Research_team_editing), I have decided to leave to your own discretion if the matter is relevant enough to inform a wider audience already. I would appreciate if you could appraise if the Wikipedia community you are more familiar with could have interest in testing group editing "on their own grounds" and with their own guidance. In a nutshell: it consists in editing pages as a group instead of as an individual. This social experiment might involve redefining some aspects of the workflow we are all used to, with the hope of creating a more friendly and collaborative environment since editing under a group umbrella creates less social exposure than traditional "individual editing". I send you this message also as a proof that the Inspire Campaign is already gearing up. As said I would appreciate of *you* just a comment on the talk page/endorsement of my project noting your general perception about the idea. Nothing else. Your contribution helps to shape the future! (which I hope it will be very bright, with colors, and Wikipedia everywhere) Regards from User:Micru on meta.
Can you please review my photos ?
Hey can you please review some Flickr photos I have upload this are licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic with only some right reserved but nobody have reviewed them can you please review I wait for your answer and thank you.
- @McZusatz: Would you get Flock to run over TheBellaTwins1445's files? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:38, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
- Sure, let me have a look at this later today. --McZusatz (talk) 16:41, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you.
- Aren't most of them already reviewed? If you uploaded a cropped version, just make sure you link to the original version like I did in File:Hornswoogle WrestleMania Axxess 2015 (cropped).jpg , and everything is fine. There is no need to review every derivative. --McZusatz (talk) 07:16, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Done. --McZusatz (talk) 09:02, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thx, but the templates were added by Prefall yesterday after 12:00 UTC --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:07, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Aren't most of them already reviewed? If you uploaded a cropped version, just make sure you link to the original version like I did in File:Hornswoogle WrestleMania Axxess 2015 (cropped).jpg , and everything is fine. There is no need to review every derivative. --McZusatz (talk) 07:16, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now make charts and maps on your wiki with the new "graph" tool. If you have an old browser, you will see images instead. It uses a tool called Vega; you can learn how to use it and write help pages for your wiki. You can use the Vega edit tool to make charts and copy the code to your wiki. Charts and maps use complex code and you should put them into templates. In the future, you will be able to create charts with VisualEditor. [17] [18] [19]
- You can apply for technical jobs to develop tools for the community. [20]
- The logos of all wikis are now in a new place. It will make pages load faster. You can still ask to change the logo. You can also use local CSS for brief changes. [21] [22]
Problems
- There was a problem that caused slow editing. [23]
- Pages were sometimes removed from your watchlist in VisualEditor. This problem is now fixed. [24]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since May 6. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from May 12. It will be on all Wikipedias from May 13 (calendar).
- You can now use data from Wikidata on more pages. The page doesn't need to be linked to the Wikidata item. It works on a few wikis and more wikis will be added soon. [25] [26]
- You should get fewer errors when you add files to Commons. [27]
- When you use an external link to link to a wiki page, VisualEditor now converts it to a wiki link. [28]
- When you add a link in VisualEditor, you see pages that match what you type. It is now easier to see where they match. [29]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on May 13 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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15:38, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Bot Issue?
Hi Zhuyifei1999, Not sure if there's an issue with the bot but According to the Flickr bot this image is "no longer available on Flickr" yet when I click the Flickr link it's there in all its glory[30] and has been for the last 4 hours so I'm a bit stumped now? 
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Thanks and Happy editing, –Davey2010 • (talk) 00:59, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- I can't reproduce this error anymore, so idk --Zhuyifei1999 (talk)
Retrieving images from Gallica
Hi, I requested help about that last month, but nobody seems to be interested: Commons:Bots/Work requests#Retrieving images from Gallica. Also asked on the VP, no answer. :( Could you please have a look? Thousands of useful images are available, but could not be downloaded because of the lack of this. Thanks again for restoring commonsarchive.org. Regards, Yann (talk) 20:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- I got an issue with 2 files: [31] (tested twice) and [32]. In these 2 cases, it creates a big image (30 MB) with duplicate tiles. I am busy today. I will do further tests tonight. Regards, Yann (talk) 05:51, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- I don't know if it can be useful, but there is also a script in OCaml to do the same thing. It may be faster. Regards, Yann (talk) 06:13, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think the OCaml script can be launched via web, so probably you'll have to compile it as a desktop app to use it. I'll look into the two files --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:17, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Yann: I ran on server-side and found many tile downloads failed; this could be fixed with wget, as implemented in the OCaml version. However I don't know a way to prevent command-line injection (security issue) with wget calls in those languages, since I don't use them so often. So I'm currently translating and merging the two versions into python. BTW a good news: I found that it is possible to detect whether a tile exists or not by checking the MIME type of the downloaded image, so those attempts to find the max size of images may no longer be necessary. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:52, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- toollabs:yifeibot/gallica.py should work. I've changed the code so that the core is run in the grid engine, and the web interface is just a wrapper. Sources: toollabs:yifeibot/gallica.py.txt, toollabs:yifeibot/gallica.core.py.txt (not very well written, but I don't have much time for this today) --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:10, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- The Python script just runs forever, and the PHP script has still the same issue described above for big images. For smaller ones, it works [33]. Sorry to ping you again. ;o) Yann (talk) 20:56, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Can you please review my new photos ?
Hey can you please review some Flickr photos I have upload this are licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic with only some right reserved but nobody have reviewed them can you please review I wait for your answer and thank you.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can watch a video about the new graph tool.
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since May 13. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from May 19. It will be on all Wikipedias from May 20 (calendar).
- References are now always in the right order. Also, the reference list now only shows references used on the page. [34]
- You can no longer create an account with a colon ':' in it. If you already have one, it still works. [35]
- The toolbar in VisualEditor now looks different. It is easier to see the icons. [36]
- You won't be able to use e-mail lists for a few hours on Tuesday. [37] [38]
- UploadWizard now shows better matches when you add a category to your file. [39]
- A test about VisualEditor will start on the English Wikipedia on Thursday. [40]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on May 21 at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join a technical meeting in France this week.
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15:21, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- VisualEditor was broken for 30 minutes on Tuesday. The problem was due to a tool it uses. [41]
- Some Labs tools had issues last week. [42] [43]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since May 20. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from May 26. It will be on all Wikipedias from May 27 (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on May 28 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You can add your ideas of new tools to help active users like you. [44]
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16:12, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Many wikis were slow for a few hours on Wednesday due to a code error. Sometimes the pages did not load at all and showed an error. [45]
- Some tools in Labs were broken on Wednesday and Thursday. [46]
- Edit tags added by the software were broken on all wikis from May 23 to May 28. [47] [48]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since May 27. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from June 2. It will be on all Wikipedias from June 3 (calendar).
- You won't be able to use e-mail lists for a few hours on Tuesday. [49]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on June 3 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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15:30, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi! I just uploaded it and you tagged it, will it be removed? It is so frustrating (I know it's not your fault), how can I know if it is a good author or not? Mattsnow81 (talk) 14:51, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
- It depends on whether the image is actually a copyright violation or not. The deleting admin hopefully will investigate on that. As for the list of bad authors, see User:FlickreviewR/bad-authors, all others are good by default --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:16, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
- OK thanks. And besides flickr, is there an image goldmine somewhere we could use? I'm really struggling sometimes to find images. Look at en:Alberto Contador for example. From 2014 on, there is nothing. Also, is there a way to request an image for people like me who aren't good with licensing and that sort of stuff? Thank you for your help Mattsnow81 (talk) 17:01, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
- How about Picasa? And afaik there is no currently-in-use place to request images; COM:PR is long dead. COM:VP might be the best choice --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:14, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
- OK thanks. And besides flickr, is there an image goldmine somewhere we could use? I'm really struggling sometimes to find images. Look at en:Alberto Contador for example. From 2014 on, there is nothing. Also, is there a way to request an image for people like me who aren't good with licensing and that sort of stuff? Thank you for your help
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Hi, Would you like to import these pictures with your bot? Regards, Yann (talk) 13:48, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Flickrreview
FYI, File:Simonetta Paoluzi (2014).jpg was not processed right: license was not added. --Jarekt (talk) 15:38, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
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- It is users job to add the license, there is CC BY-SA 2.0 in the permission field. --Steinsplitter (talk) 15:40, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry if I sounded rude. That is kind of ongoing discussion since we were both working on logic to add missing licenses by the bot and not certify that license is correct when it is absent. I thought that the new improved version was running, but it seems like the bot is still using the old logic. By the way I agree that "it is users job to add the license" and many of them will hear from me if they do not, but flickr uploads frequently have that issue and it seemed easier to fix it by the review bot than be sending threats of deletion. (just trying to use the club sparingly). --Jarekt (talk) 15:54, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Jarekt: Hmm... Add before {{Flickreview}} template? I'll code it when I have enough time. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks --Jarekt (talk) 02:51, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Jarekt: implemented. Could you undelete Template:Flickr-public_domain_mark/subst? It's still in use, and I can't fine any replacements. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:11, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
- Done the deletion was I think misunderstanding. I think User:Hedwig in Washington deleted it because part of the template is {{No license}} template. Which was adding Template:Flickr-public_domain_mark/subst to a problem category. I fixed the categorization issue. Zhuyifei1999, by the way, may be you would like to apply for position of administrator in order to have greater freedom while doing technical work related to protected pages. You definitely have enough technical know-how to use admin tools if you wish to do so. If you want I can nominate you and write a short intro. --Jarekt (talk) 03:29, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thx, but unlike others, I don't really have time to work on those DRs, nor I am an OTRS person or whatever. In case editing protected pages is needed, using {{Edit protected}} is fine for me. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:52, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- OK, but keep in mind that admins have many roles. Some admins concentrate on DRs, (very few have access to OTRS) and others on technical work on templates, modules, java scripts, etc. You do a LOT of technical work with bots. That's why I thought you might be interested in other technical issues. If you ever reconsider let me know. --Jarekt (talk) 04:36, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thx, but unlike others, I don't really have time to work on those DRs, nor I am an OTRS person or whatever. In case editing protected pages is needed, using {{Edit protected}} is fine for me. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:52, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Jarekt: implemented. Could you undelete Template:Flickr-public_domain_mark/subst? It's still in use, and I can't fine any replacements. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:11, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks --Jarekt (talk) 02:51, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Jarekt: Hmm... Add before {{Flickreview}} template? I'll code it when I have enough time. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry if I sounded rude. That is kind of ongoing discussion since we were both working on logic to add missing licenses by the bot and not certify that license is correct when it is absent. I thought that the new improved version was running, but it seems like the bot is still using the old logic. By the way I agree that "it is users job to add the license" and many of them will hear from me if they do not, but flickr uploads frequently have that issue and it seemed easier to fix it by the review bot than be sending threats of deletion. (just trying to use the club sparingly). --Jarekt (talk) 15:54, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry. That happens when you trust a bot....
Thanks for fixing Jarekt! --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:19, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from June 9. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from June 10. It will be on all Wikipedias from June 11 (calendar). [50] [51]
- If you use the Monobook skin, the buttons and other controls now look more the same in VisualEditor and other tools. [52]
- When you edit links and other items in VisualEditor, you now need to apply your change before closing the tool. [53]
- The title of dialogs is now easier to see when it is near long buttons. [54]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on June 9 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join a meeting with the Language team. The meeting will be on June 10 at 14:30 (UTC). [55]
Future changes
- If you have a bot, you may need to fix it. The default continuation mode of the API for
action=querywill change at the end of June. [56]
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15:21, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
is now pointing to https://tools.wmflabs.org/commonsarchive -- I know current config isn't ideal. Let me know if you wish some improvements (and which ones). As soon as Let's Encrypt is available I'll also redirect or forward HTTPS. If it would be a wmflabs instance, it could have an own subdomain (commonsarchive.wmflabs.org) and I could point the CNAME (commonsarchive.org -> commonsarchive.wmflabs.org), or even the A record to this instance (if there is already a possibility to config that in wikitech.wikimedia.org). Perhaps it would be even possible to convince WMF to create a new fully staff maintained project. -- Rillke(q?) 20:32, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Rillke, that's great. Yann (talk) 21:22, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the redirect. As for creating a wmflabs instance, it seems a lot more maintenance work is needed just to keep the servers going, and I don't think I have enough time for that. If you are interested in doing those, feel free to poke me and I'll move all the data. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:23, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- If labs-vagrant is now working as expected it could be easier. But since I don't see any extension not used in production, we could probably have a staff-maintained wiki on the production cluster? -- Rillke(q?) 16:00, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- labs-vagrant is designed for convenience for debugging, and don't really consider much about the security (eg. uniform password for almost everything, from database to mediawiki). Setting up a new wiki in production seems rarely happen. Besides, I don't think WMF will be very happy about hosting non-free file formats on their production cluster, as commonsarchive allows uploads in any format. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:27, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- If labs-vagrant is now working as expected it could be easier. But since I don't see any extension not used in production, we could probably have a staff-maintained wiki on the production cluster? -- Rillke(q?) 16:00, 10 June 2015 (UTC)