Oppose It is a very attractive image when seen in thumbnail size. The lightning is very good and the camera location seems to have been pretty perfect. Line of sight was good, so good shooting conditions. However at preview and full resolution it strikes me as being very noisy and without much detail. I think you could have benefitted from taking several, zoomed images and stitch it all together afterwards. This will give you much more details. With care and skill a nocturnal LA panorama like this can be made. Unfortunately the camera EXIF is lost in the editing process. In such cases it is even more important to at least state the date the photo was taken in the date parameter and preferably state some core settings used when taking the photo (at what time of day, shutter speed, aperture, ISO setting). The image could benefit from geocoding - add value. Sorry. -- Slaunger21:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is a rare and interesting perspective of Los Angeles. I am willing to give it thumbs up even though there is some noise. Barabas21:37, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Info This is a retouched version of LA_Skyline_Mountains.jpg with better white balance and noise reduction to eliminate some graininess pointed out in the original version (I used Photoshop CS3).
Info To answer some questions about this picture (and the original version), it was captured December 10, 2007 in the mid-morning. This is a very difficult shot to capture because the conditions need to be optimal-- mainly because of the well known smog in LA. A shot like this has to be captured the morning after a heavy night storm (preferably on a Monday) to minimize accumulation of smog. The rain naturally washes away some smog and there is less smog early in the morning and early in the week (for obvious commuting reasons). In order to capture the LA skyline with the San Gabriel mountains, the shot can only be captured from Kenneth Hahn State Recreation Area (geocoding now added to both images), which is about 10 miles southwest of downtown. At that distance, the shot was captured with a 300mm telephoto lens (this particular shot was captured at 238mm). Exposure time was 1/200 at f/11, and 400 ISO.
Comment Thank you for explaining these details. All these nice details should really go into the description field in the images. That is where they belong, as this is where people will look for them. -- Slaunger20:58, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Please put the alternative nominations inside the section of the original one, to facilitate reviewing and closing -- Alvesgaspar19:53, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is a rare and interesting perspective of Los Angeles. I am willing to give it thumbs up even though there is some noise. Barabas21:37, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I agree this is an excellent composition and an original perspective of LA. But the quality is terrible. -- Alvesgaspar23:08, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I am more postive now that I better understand that quite some effort has actually been put into taking the image under the best possible conditions. Unfortunately, the end result is still quite dissapoiting to me concerning detail level and photographis quality. That other pano I referred to earlier is just a very clear demonstration of that much better results can be acheived (albeit the latter has a too low vertical pixel resolution to be FP worthy). Sorry. -- Slaunger21:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]