Oppose The poor masking job is visible at my normal viewing distance. I'd consider the image against the real background or a modified image fixing the mask. The detail in the flowers is excellent. Update: Oppose only applies to the first image. -- Ram-Man16:52, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If that is not masking, what is all that fringing on at the bottom of the middle flower? See the picture of the crop. -- Ram-Man22:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Well it looked fine at quarter to one in the morning when I uploaded it, but yes it is a bit rough around the edges ;-(. The clarity of the flowers is great (I don't know what Karelj is looking at) and worth the effort of fixing the fringing, so either upload it with the background intact, or edit it out completely :-) --Tony Wills11:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Whether or not this a masking job or not I don't care. Without the weird fringing it just looks better. The edges are a little choppy perhaps from the fringe fixing, but it's now acceptable. I love the detail in the flowers. -- Ram-Man13:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose poor masking in version two: has got even worse now! (for masking, I normally cut away bit by bit at at least 1000% magnif.) Lycaon19:05, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Could the original uploader consider reprocessing this from scratch or someone else redo the mask? Perhaps you'd change your vote if the masking was improved? -- Ram-Man19:17, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support If he says he did not mask it you have to belive him. Maybe we are all trained on bad masking, sothat we no do not longer know how good low-key shots look like ;) Metoc21:39, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Perhaps it is a misunderstanding of terminology or methods, but I am surprised to see an absolute black background that isn't the result of editing. I have added a crop with the absolute black part replaced with another colour. Note things near parts of the flower, like a right angled edge and pockets of red. I am happy to accept the background was not removed with a 'mask', but I am convinced it was incompletely removed by a person or persons unknown ;-). Nothing wrong with removing it, but it needs to be done a little better :-) --Tony Wills13:08, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]