Commons:Featured picture candidates/Log/May 2014

File:Endangered species Iguana Iguana from Margarita Island.jpg, featured edit

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Endangered species Iguana Iguana from Margarita Island
✓ Done In description female. Thanks --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 10:47, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And without a macro lens :). I think I took about 300 photos to select only this. Iguanas often feel fear when a human is nearby, and always in the tops of tall trees. However, I understand that this is circumstantial, only the final result is evaluated. Thank Alex --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 23:41, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexander: 98% of the time I'm photographing animals. ;) So...yeah. There you go. --(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 13:56, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
 Question @Arctic Kangaroo: the right question I think he wanted to do, are you tried to make a photo of wild Iguana in this distance?. You'll need camouflage in most cases --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 12:13, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've never seen an iguana before. --(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 23:23, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 8 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 21:24, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Ossuary in Sedlec.JPG, featured edit

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 Comment Thanks for uploading this photo to commons and Thank you very much for your comment, you sound like an educated person of good feelings --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 12:59, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 10 support, 4 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 21:26, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:La Grace (ship, 2010), Sète, Hérault 01.jpg, featured edit

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La Grace in Sète.
  • Thanks Martin for your support and your suggestion, it's indeed a good idea, I tried and the visual impact seems better with your suggestion but I'm a 16:10 format fanatic, and I despair when I find a good image on the internet and when I view it with black strips at the top and at bottom. It is little as haircuts, when we too much cut it is too late. As soon as I can, in 95 % of my images, I prefer to propose this 16:10 format by condolence to those who as me are the enemies of the black strips. --Christian Ferrer 14:39, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 8 support, 2 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 15:02, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Kenzo Building, 1 rue du Pont-Neuf, Paris.jpg, not featured edit

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Kenzo Building, 1 rue du Pont-Neuf, Paris
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Result: 1 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 22:10, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Fluitenkruid (Anthriscus sylvestris).JPG, not featured edit

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Fluitenkruid (Anthriscus sylvestris) in the early morning covered with dew.
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Result: 1 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 07:58, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Iglesia de Santiago Tlatelolco, México D.F., México, 2013-10-16, DD 38.JPG, featured edit

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Church of Santiago Tlatelolco, home of the Colegio de Santa Cruz de Tlatelolco (first European school of higher learning in the Americas), Mexico City, Mexico.
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Result: 10 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 07:57, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Darya Zhukova (12106365364).jpg, not featured edit

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Two nude men pose in a political parody of Darya Zhukova's controversial portrait.NSFWTAG
  •  Info created by Александр Каргальцев (Sasha Kargaltsev) - uploaded by
  •  Support as nominator. Some participants at FPC may be offended by male nudity, I believe this photograph justifies that risk and worth consideration due to being an exemplar work of a well established LGBT artist, as well as for its educational value in relation to parody and protest of contemporary racism and a reaction by Kargaltsev to his own experience of homophobia.
Kargaltsev is a photographer and film producer known for his gay related artworks featuring the male nude, describing himself as a queer artist who fled oppression in Russia by emigrating to America. This photograph is both an interesting LGBT cultural work with historical and artistic resonances in the areas of American racism and the original Allen Jones' "chair" from 1969, along with being a political protest against Zhukova's recent racially offensive photograph. See the links on the image page for press impact of this artwork. -- (talk) 10:57, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I am sure there are folks here offended by any nudity. Cultural sensitivities differ. I think if we stop talking about the fact it is a nude whenever anyone nominates a nude it will be less of an issue. That aside, images here need more than just EV or a strong social commentary, although these certainly help. Images nominated at COM:FPC should be the finest of their kind and even where systemic bias may exist this basic principle is not waived. When I first looked at the thumb I was hopeful it would be good enough to have a legitimate chance, as it would be nice for FPC to be more than just butterflies, landscapes and architecture. As to the image itself, I noted a few technical flaws with softness in areas and the general lighting that make me think this will not stand up well against the guidelines. Using past FP images wasn't much help, as even the female form is well under-represented in the people category. I did a search in Google for examples of male nudes and this does not compare well. I finally asked myself if this was an image of two beautiful women and nothing else changed would I support and it was an adamant no. Saffron Blaze (talk) 19:54, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose As a photograph and as a work of art, this has not achieved greatness: it has failed to provoke an original response, it is technically flawed, and imo it is artistically weak.
    • EV: The photograph featuring Zhukova sitting on on a chair that looked like a contorted half-naked black woman was highly controversial and provocative (and publicity-forming for all those concerned). It generated a huge amount of comment in the press and online. Like it or not, this is what modern art does. The artist behind the chair (Bjarne Melgaard) is known for highly controversial and provocative works. And the original Allen Jones chair (with a white woman) in the Tate is itself controversial and provocative, though it causes offence for other reasons. So much deliberate provocation and controversy. So much building on or commenting on the work of others. So much publicity-seeking or advocacy-making. While Kargaltsev's protest has achieved a tiny amount of publicity, nobody is talking about the photo itself (beyond a perfunctory description). The news is merely that "a gay Russian artist" created the photo to make a point, for which he gets a moment to put across in his own words, before the news stories rehash the previous week's much more interesting story about the Russian oligarch's wife. So I see a "political protest" about Zhukova's photograph, which has been widely interpreted as racist, but I don't see "an interesting LGBT cultural work with historical and artistic resonances in the areas of American racism and the original Allen Jones' "chair" from 1969".
    • Technically, the photo suffers from being just plain out of focus. If one looks at the floor, it is clear the focus is much closer to the photographer than either of the two subjects. It fails on that alone really.
    • Artistically, the image isn't strong imo. We have two naked people in an awkwardly-held pose in a photographer's studio. Nothing especially new about that: the internet is, frankly, absolutely chock full of such pictures. What does the picture say? Why are they there? Why are they arranged like that? Without the accompanying explanation, one really has no clue what is going on here or why we should care. We know it wasn't just intended as a study of the male nude form. Compare that to the controversial Zhukova photo. One one level it is a fashionable and famous young lady sitting at a dressing table, smiling slightly for the camera. Then one notices the outrageous chair and considers if it is hers or why she chose to be photographed sitting in it. The awkward pose of the black "woman" and sat-upon situation makes sense [!] in her bondage attire and function as an actual seat. But strangely "she" appears to be happy and looking directly at Zhukova -- "her" eyeline linking the two "subjects". One wonders if the black chair is really a woman (it isn't) and if not, why "she" needs a rug to lie on. And the rest of the image, with the dressing table, the bare uncluttered room, and the three mirrors framing the subject are all carefully arranged. The Zhukova photo, no matter what one thinks of it ethically, is a work of art. Kargaltsev's hurried protest image, is not. -- Colin (talk) 20:57, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Bad try...so with racism against racism. --Mile (talk) 09:32, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 1 support, 2 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 15:03, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Facade på Aarhus Rådhus.jpg, not featured edit

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Facade of the City Hall in Aarhus on Park Alle
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Result: 4 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 14:58, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Peacock butterfly (inachis io).jpg, featured edit

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Inachis io (Peacock butterfly)
I think it could have been sharper. Please view this FP. --Joydeep Talk 09:06, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yup of course. But I think it's good enough. :P Never mind, thanks for your comment and vote. --(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 09:08, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Glad to see how 400mm is used to capture a butterfly. I agree a macro lens can grab more details; but we don't have many photographers here using a professional grade macro lens. We have too many photos with 100mm with most of the body parts OOF. I will choose a 150-200mm macro or 300-400 tele if ever can upgrade to a DSLR and restart my photography. ;)
I don't see much sharpness issue in Joydeep's work other than the DOF issue of the closeup filter he used. The background was busy compared to this and the specimen had damaged wings. Remember, a butterfly will lose his glory within one day due to aging and the troubles they faced from the predators.
It may good to clone out the "half flower" on right here. Here the subject is not fully "parallel"; so the forewing tips are OOF. ;) Jee 13:18, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, got the point of Jee, and I know as does Jee that how difficult it is to take a macro without a dedicated macro lens. But I thought that with 400mm the distance of the subject from camera is enough to adjust and take a technically better photo (as I use a 50mm prime lens with closeup filter, so I have to go very very close to the subject and then adjust my camera). Nevertheless  Support. --Joydeep Talk 17:40, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes; subject distance is the key element affecting DOF than focal length. Closeup filters need very close subject distance (merely 10cm for my Reynox DCR 250 while capturing Blues) so DOF is very limited. Longer macro lens (like 180/200mm) have more subject distance than 60/100mms to make the same magnification; so better DOF. If we can't afford them; one compromise is to use a tele as The Photographer does even though we loss some fine details. Jee 04:29, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Peacock butterfly with flower on right removed as suggested
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Result: 10 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 15:02, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:USO-Sale Sharks - 20131205 - Derrière la melée ouverte.jpg, not featured edit

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  •  Info created by, uploaded by, nominated by Pleclown -- Pleclown (talk) 09:58, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support This picture was taken during the match opposing the USO to the Sale Sharks, competing in the European Challenge Cup, which was attended by two accredited photographers, thanks to Wikimedia CH. The USO player (in beige with the hlemet) has just got the ball on his hands and is starting his run. The Sharks player on the left is advancing to try to tackle him. Behind him is the ruck from which the ball was extracted. -- Pleclown (talk) 09:58, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose I think having the scrum cut in half is a major disappointment for this image. Everything else seems fine. Saffron Blaze (talk) 20:01, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand what you say. But I'd like to point that this is not a scrum, but a ruck, and that the blue players on the right are the defensive line of the Sales Sharks, not the forward lines. This is the result of this tackle (tackle, ruck, ball coming out to the offensive player on the left of the picture). Pleclown (talk) 11:11, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral I agree with Saffron, I like and know rugdy and I understand that the image is centered on the action, it's a good centring for a tv camera but for this photo I want to see a bit more at right, the cut mens on the right are, like it or not, a part of the composition and they are cut. However it's a good and nice image. Christian Ferrer (talk) 17:43, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 1 support, 1 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 15:00, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Ta Phrom, Angkor, Camboya, 2013-08-16, DD 39.JPG, not featured edit

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Interior of the Ta Phrom temple in Angkor, Cambodia.
  •  Support Sharpness id not the best on the edges, however I like it very much. -- Christian Ferrer 04:49, 24 april 2014 (UTC)
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Result: 7 support, 4 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 21:28, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:View of Uchisar.JPG, featured edit

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Fairy chimneys in Uçhisar, Cappadocia Turkey
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Result: 21 support, 0 oppose, 1 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 21:29, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Arizona grand cayon 2013.jpg edit

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What luxury to forget your own FPs! ;-) --DXR (talk) 18:26, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:2014 - Puits Arthur - 30 - Crop.JPG edit

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Ruins of the Arthur-de-Buyer coal mine, overgrown.
  • Generally, I do not think it is good style here to compare entirely unrelated nominations, but clearly A shows an impressive natural phenomenon in nice light, while B is an aerial image of a church that can practically not be photographed from the ground. Your image is a good quality image that shows a subject well, but I cannot see how it would be extraordinary enough to be identified as one of the very best. --DXR (talk) 10:31, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I understand, but it's a pity ! I believe this aesthetic is intersting and impressive. Bourgeois.A (talk) 14:14, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: Invalid licence(s) for FP. Please add a free licence in addition to GFDL, such as CC BY-SA or FAL. - Colin (talk) 14:23, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply] Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.

File:2014 - Puits Arthur - 30.JPG edit

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Ruins of the Arthur-de-Buyer coal mine, overgrown.

File:Momordica charantia 25042014.jpg edit

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Momordica charantia

 I withdraw my nomination. Thanks for the reviews. --Joydeep Talk 18:41, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Hotel Daniel Skulptur Erwin-Wurm-Boot DSC 9082w.jpg, not featured edit

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Sculpture by Erwin Wurm on the roof of hotel Daniel, 3rd district of Vienna
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Result: 5 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 06:06, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Neutral density filter demonstration.jpg, featured edit

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Depiction of the function of a neutral density filter, contrasting the view with and without the filter
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Result: 10 support, 4 oppose, 1 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 08:01, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:A day of fishing aground.jpg, featured edit

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A day of fishing aground
✓ Done @Jebulon: Nice review. What do you think? --The Photographer (talk) 18:06, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Very well done. Yann (talk) 19:15, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Joydeep Talk 08:51, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support some minor technical issues (e.g. sharpness), but great composition and awesome mood. Clearly FP to me. --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 09:41, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose A rotting abandoned boat attracts photographers like flies. But this one just isn't atmospheric enough imo in both subject and composition. The image has been a bit over-processed -- I don't mind bringing some sky back but the result here is very flat tone and grainy and an oddness with blue sky but evening-like shadow. The image below is I suspect a more faithful version. The boat leads the eye towards the rather dull group of trees on the right, whereas it should be drawn to a characterful boat, which this one isn't. Perhaps shot from another angle in some more atmospheric light (blue hour?) may make something of it? -- Colin (talk)
 Comment You could try a better develop. Thanks --The Photographer (talk) 01:34, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A day of fishing aground CaptureNX2 version
It is Nikon Adobe RGB imported from CaptureNX in Adobe Photoshop. I invite you to read this. Nice review --The Photographer (talk) 01:34, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
User:The Photographer The difference between official and Nikon variants of the colourspaces seems to concern how the profile is defined, not how the colours are stored or ultimately what the 255/0/0 RGB value in your JPG maps onto on your monitor. JPGs only have 8-bits to express each colour and so are not a good choice of wide-colour-gamut profiles like AdobeRGB. Almost everyone viewing images on the web has an sRGB monitor and their OS and browser only really handle sRGB well. It is really only colour professionals (such as a print shop) who can handle AdobeRGB images. I keep meaning to write up a page on this issue. But briefly, your raw file has no colourspace so it is only when you save to JPG (or TIFF) that a colourspace needs chosen. For Commons JPGs we should only use sRGB. -- Colin (talk) 08:15, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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A day of fishing aground lightroom CF
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Result: 8 support, 1 oppose, 2 neutral → featured. /(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 09:03, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Angela guianensis MHNT male vol.jpg, featured edit

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Angela guianensis
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Result: 16 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 08:59, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Crimea South Coast 04-14 img10 Gaspra Swallows Nest.jpg, featured edit

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The swallow's nest castle, Crimea
No, it wasn't on purpose. On the staircase down to the castle, there are just a few points with good vista. Alternative image: here, all other attempts I deleted as much less successful. I don't mind the position of the horizon here. --A.Savin 15:31, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think this one of the "keys" of this picture, and I disagree with Kadellar here: oh yes, it is a good idea ! I see it like a picture "in mirror". The upper part is sophisticated and baroque, the lower part is nature and chaos, that's fine !--Jebulon (talk) 16:19, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The other image is just "good", and less interesting IMO.--Jebulon (talk) 16:22, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Are you debating me here? My point was I would probably support this at one of the Wikipedias FP's but not here on Commons. You took a QI image of a high EV subject; such images are suited to places like en:FP because of their focus on EV. This is Commons FPC, and here wow should take precedence. This lacks overall wow because of the compositional choice and I supported that opinion with dozens of spectacular images of this subject found elsewhere on the internet. I simply did not oppose because the support is overwhelming and I thought it would be simply fruitless and perhaps even rude to do so at this point. Saffron Blaze (talk) 21:08, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 16 support, 1 oppose, 1 neutral → featured. /(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 08:54, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:David Bizet - Marathon de Paris 2014.jpg, featured edit

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Result: 10 support, 3 oppose, 1 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 10:13, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Klara kyrka february 2013 01.jpg, featured edit

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Result: 8 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 08:56, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Thiara cancellata 01.JPG, featured edit

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Shell of a Hairy Tower Lid Snail
You could translate hell of own collection, therefore not geocoded. Dorsal, lateral (right side), ventral, back, and front view to german and I to spanish, what do you think? --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 12:12, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done for the German version. --Llez (talk) 13:01, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done for the Spanish version. --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 13:05, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done for the French version.--Jebulon (talk) 19:43, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! --Llez (talk) 15:08, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe another language like portuguese. @Beria: --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 01:18, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done for the Portuguese version. Béria L. Rodríguez msg 01:38, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 11 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 08:58, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Zeppellin NT amk.JPG, not featured edit

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Zeppelin NT
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Result: 2 support, 1 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured. /(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 08:54, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Marmota monax UL 04.jpg, featured edit

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Result: 13 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /--Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 17:59, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Trinity College Chapel, Oxford - Diliff.jpg, featured edit

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There is a little EXIF data and a comment saying "Stitched with PTGui and tonemapped using Photomatix from 50 images - ten segments, each comprised of five exposures: f/10 and 1/8s, 0.5s, 2s, 8s and 30s at ISO 640." Some EXIF data from the original JPG/RAW files gets lost or becomes irrelevant/misleading as an image goes through PTGui/Photomatix/Photoshop. My own stitched images using Hugin/Photoshop seem to retain camera details, timestamp and Hugin projection information but not lens or exposure details. Even Hugin information like field-of-view can be misleading if the image is further cropped. -- Colin (talk) 12:01, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
 Question I underestand, What is the best way that you recommend, to re-add this information to the photo?. Thanks --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 12:06, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think it is important to embed this in the photo rather than just add to the image description page? I suppose one could use any description field. It would be hard to mandate using the EXIF for this because some tools don't offer a lot of control. It is hard enough making sure the JPG has a colourspace defined, even though that is a basic requirement for any JPG. Seems some software doesn't care much about accurate colour, or has export options that trim off the vital EXIF data along with the optional. -- Colin (talk) 06:54, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 17 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 13:59, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:UK-2014-Oxford-Keble College 01.jpg, not featured edit

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Keble College Chapel, Oxford
  •  Info Keble College Chapel created, uploaded, and nominated by Godot13 -- Godot13 (talk) 05:45, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Godot13 (talk) 05:45, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose -- The can on the steps, noise in the shadows, soft in areas, not convinced about the colour balance as the grass is a rather vivid lime green. The girl reading the book is a lovely touch though. Saffron Blaze (talk) 21:16, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose File:Keble College Chapel - Oct 2006.jpg has better composition. Taking it straight-on is less interesting imo. The softness I can forgive given that this is a 56MP image and if I downsize to 75% with a little sharpening, it looks very crisp and still 31MP. The lighting is a little too bright imo. Btw, I don't think your edit to the picture did it any improvement. There was no CA to begin with that I could see (certainly not enough to justify setting Lightroom's defringe to 3 pixels. Also the new version has JPG gnats whereas the old one was clear -- did you open the JPG in Lightroom or save it with lesser quality? I see the old one was AdobeRGB which I don't consider appropriate choice for web photos, but if you aren't working from the RAW file then I don't support converting a AdobeRGB JPG to an sRGB JPG -- that just loses colour fidelity as there aren't enough bits to play with. -- Colin (talk) 22:02, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Colin-I do appreciate your comments and they make me realize how much I still need to learn about the more technical side of digital photography. The original files (from this camera) are .MOS which I save as .TIF as a working file. I only convert to .JPG at the end for uploading and "reduction" in overall file size. I opened the .TIF in Lightroom, but was unable to figure out how to export the file as a TIF when saved (it would only come out as a JPG). I am working with a new monitor (and a recently purchased updated version of Lightroom), so my hunt for CA may have been misguided. Do you feel that this image could become an FP or is it simply QI material? I understand your comment about the composition and that (at this point) isn't going to change. Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 23:34, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Godot13, in my Lightroom 5, after you open the "Export" menu, if you scroll down there is a "File settings" menu where you can select TIFF from a drop-down menu (as well as the output quality, say 95 for JPG or whatever). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:40, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
 Support Amandajm (talk) 09:51, 30 April 2014 (UTC) I like the composition of this image. The fact that the building is side on, the view that is usually seen, but has its forms clearly defined by the shadows cast by the buttresses and other projections is good. The asymmetry of Neo-Gothic design is shown well, as is the polychrome.[reply]
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Ascalaphus sinister, featured edit

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  •  Info These owlflies seem crepuscular and rest most of the time "on stems and twigs with the body, legs, and antennae pressed to the stem." I was in search for small damselflies and robberflies, and it flew away when I accidentally touched the branch of the Mimosa pudica where it was resting. I'm able to locate it's new perch and slowly approached from behind. It is a very alert subject and difficult to approach from front or side. But I succeeded to made some side views from a distance with my tele focal length, by laying on the bed of thorns. Later I searched for them and fond the similar ones from almost same environment, although from different plants. These are Ascalaphus sinister Walker, 1853, male and female; identified by Joshua R Jones at Texas A&M University. Created, uploaded and nominated by me. -- Jee 06:15, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- The story: I found them four years ago in the summer 2010. As soon as I published them at Flickr with a CC license, Prof. John D. Oswald of Texas A&M University contacted me requesting permission to use them in their Lacewing Digital Library. But he can't identify them. Since then I posted these pictures in many sites, contacted many experts; but no results. Now one of my friend posted a similar image in an Entomology FB group and Shyamal shared it to a Neuropterology expert group. Joshua R Jones stepped in an identify both species. Dr. Joshua noted: "These species were described 160 years ago and only reviewed in 1949. Although common, they are difficult to identify, and the classification of the genera and tribes to which they belong is in need of a modern taxonomic revision." Roberto A. Pantaleoni, another expert said "Being curious, I tried to understand something. Unfortunately the good revision of Kimmins (1949) was based on dried and conserved specimens, the ID by photos is completely different." Anyway we finally got a result and I'm glad to share it with you. More information collected so far about this species is available in file description. Enjoy! (I agree, the photo quality is average; so not bothered about whether they get featured or not.) Jee 06:15, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Mainly for the scientific and educational value, but nothing wrong with the quality either.--ArildV (talk) 07:33, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support - Passes the bug bar IMHO. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Yann (talk) 14:26, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support per above --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 17:16, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Baresi F (talk) 20:50, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Christian Ferrer (talk) 12:25, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support for all the efforts of people included for identification, and image quality is good to go for FP. --Joydeep Talk 12:57, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --JLPC (talk) 15:24, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Michael Barera (talk) 01:19, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Poco2 16:08, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 11 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /--Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 17:55, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Crimea South Coast 04-14 img01 Simferopol-Yalta trolley.jpg, withdrawn edit

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A Bogdan T601 type trolleybus on the Krymtroleybus passenger trolley line (86 km from Simferopol to Yalta via Angarsky Pass). Photo taken near Alushta, Crimea.
Let's resume: no wow, because anything else is hypocrisy as usual. A more impartial reviewer might want to know that Krymtroleybus is in several respects a unique system and a "must-ride" for any visitor of Crimea. Besides, there are much less QI on public transport than on buildings etc., and not a single FP of trolleys. --A.Savin 20:05, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It would be helpful if you could explain why this image is an FP, in your opinion. That you find the subject interesting or unique is not enough. Every third picture on QI is a train. I'll be sure to let Mattbuck know about the new standards at FP. -- Colin (talk) 20:58, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Just take it easy and relax. The nomination has failed; FPC is a volunteer project and I'm not accountable to anyone. --A.Savin 21:42, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm totally chilled and not the one calling anyone a hypocrite or partial reviewer. -- Colin (talk) 22:03, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Interesting subject but deficient composition centered. --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 20:17, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Fine on the technical aspects, although the bit jutting out on the lower left is distracting. I am struggling whether a QI photo of a bus is featurable on its own without something else to give it that wow (dramatic light or driving though an interesting area). Saffron Blaze (talk) 22:21, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I congratulate you on a choice of subject other than a wonderful castle or a unicorn, however I agree with Saffron for the distracting bit jutting out on the lower left and on the importance of the wow. Can you propose an alternative less cropped with the whole rail and also much more space at bottom, the trolleybus is in movement, and I think much more space at bottom of it will suggest the effect of movement. Your crop is not bad, even good but I'm not sure a square crop so tight is the best idea for a vehicule in horizontal movement. -- Christian Ferrer (talk) 05:46, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 I withdraw my nomination. --A.Savin 09:30, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Really not necessary to oppose a withdrawn image... --DXR (talk) 17:37, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Blick von St Othmar auf Donaucity DSC 9615w.jpg edit

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View from church tower of the parish church St. Othmar unter den Weißgerbern with Prater in the foreground and behind the St. Francis of Assisi Church. In the background the Donau City with DC1, UNO-City, Hochhaus Neue Donau and many other buildings.


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Greater Flamingos

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Hanging raw ham (Jamón) in a shop in W:Trevélez

File:USO-Sale Sharks - 20131205 - Plaquage 2.jpg, not featured edit

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File:2013-Fort de la Miotte 13 - Crop.jpg, not featured edit

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Miotte fortifications and tower.
@Bourgeois.A: I guess because the motif is not that eye-catching for an architectural photo which we have lots of on COM:FP; plus not the best sharpness, chromatic aberrations. --A.Savin 11:57, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Krentenboompje (Amelanchier). Bloemen 06.JPG, featured edit

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* Oppose -- WB or green cast by the diffuse light through the foliage makes these flowers greenish when they should be white. Saffron Blaze (talk) 21:10, 26 April 2014 (UTC) Saffron Blaze (remove oppose)(talk) 20:04, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Result: 9 support, 2 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 19:31, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Munich subway station Georg-Brauchle-Ring.JPG, featured edit

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  •  Info Munich subway station Georg-Brauchle-Ring (U1), all by -- Martin Falbisoner (talk) 18:01, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Martin Falbisoner (talk) 18:01, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Well, it obviously is a featurable scene (and I am jealous of the amazing subway stations you have in Munich!), but I am not yet quite convinced by the execution to be honest. I don't think the perspective correction is perfect yet (at least on the sides the verticals are not quite right), it appears a bit noisy on the colored tiles (although I have a feeling that Canons generally tend to struggle a bit more with that) and it is not quite sharp in the center. Could you try to improve that? --DXR (talk) 18:58, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Another striking image (albeit I see a better crop again) Saffron Blaze (talk) 14:13, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Another well-captured Munich U-bahn station. Daniel Case (talk) 17:37, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I don't want to spoil, but... COM:FOP Germany: only exteriors of buildings are covered. --A.Savin 19:20, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Should'nt you start a DR ?--Jebulon (talk) 19:51, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well, honestly, you'd have to delete hundreds of pics from Munich U-Bahn alone - not mentioning maybe several thousands of images of train and/or public transport stations throughout Germany, considering that FOP in the narrow sense doesn't apply to any pictures taken from e.g. platforms, as these might technically be considered private area in the property of transport companies. Which leads me to the question of the legality of any indoor pictures taken in Germany and uploaded to commons... churches, castles, state buildings... And what about parks and gardens? Not public space in a narrow sense... Don't get me wrong, I don't take legal questions lightly, not at all (being a media archivist...), but apparently nobody ever took offense here. In any case, even if you open a DR, let's stick to the pictorial and photographic qualities of candidates here on FP. --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 20:47, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        • I just wanted to draw your attention on a possible problem (now or in future), it's only about copyright issues (not "Hausrecht" etc.), no RfD from my side (maybe I'm wrong and there is a court decision in Germany that any train stations including the underground ones are to be handled as exteriors; who knows, ianal). Anyway, for my part I would be cautious with nominating this kind of pictures for QI or FP. And yes, in the past I have myself uploaded many dozens of U-Bahn (Rhein-Ruhr, Berlin etc.) photos on Commons. If I was aware of that legal restriction at that timepoints, I wouldn't have. Should anyone now or ever nominate all this stuff for deletion, I'd find it pity but comprehensible. --A.Savin 21:35, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
          • Sorry if my reply seemed too harsh, I had no intention of attacking you, Alexander! Yes I admit, the situation is tricky. If the "great purge" should ever come upon us, Commons will be much poorer. In the meantime: be bold and assume good faith. ;-) --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 21:47, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Can you honestly say a U-Bahn station has an exterior? A photographable one? Daniel Case (talk) 15:26, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, no idea how Germany's judges would argue. From the logical point, however, the (underground) hall is the station's interior; whereas the aboveground entrance building is the exterior. I admit that most U-Bahn entrances in Germany look somewhat like this; but there are also some with true entrance buildings, like that. --A.Savin 17:12, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Diego, I didn't know him - I just wish I were as good! --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 17:56, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 12 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 19:32, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Rouen France Panoramic-View-02.jpg, featured edit

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File:Westfaelischer Friede in Muenster (Gerard Terborch 1648).jpg, not featured edit

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A noteable historical event, from a noteable artist [[1]]
  •  Info created by Gerard_ter_Borch - uploaded by User:STBR - nominated by User:godhulii_1985 -- Godhulii 1985 (talk) 09:15, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Godhulii 1985 (talk) 09:15, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 15:14, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose -- Amandajm (talk) 10:09, 30 April 2014 (UTC) The problems are two: The tone has been lightened to a point that defies the artist's "tonal composition". This lessens the intensity by removing the dark background against which the figures are contrasted. Just because there are some details in the woodwork of the panelling doesn't mean that it requires lightening to a point where it all becomes clearly visible. The effect of bleaching out the shadows means that shadows on the faces have also been lost, so they lack intensity. In other place, there is a serious loss of form, because tone is one of the ways in which the artist creates form. This is particularly noticeable on the red cloak to the right, and the flag- in the less-adjusted images the form of the flag, and its hanging vertical edge is much more pronounced. Secondly, the colours have ben changed. The whole colour palette has been made warm, rather than cool. The blacks, which should be slightly greenish black, are blue-black. The robe of the Franciscan friar to the right has seriously changed colour. All the greys which should be a slightly yellowed or greenish grey are blue grey. This is wrong. The browns are also affected. They are too warm; the chair in the foreground is the best test. The golds are all too warm. Once again, the chair is the test. Its metal fittings and studs would be yellowish brass, as would the hanging candelabra, not warm pinkish gold. Lastly, because all the reddish-browns have become truly red, one gentleman now has a moustache of a hue that is really extraordinary![reply]
It is good to see such a high resolution image, but the colour and tone needs fixing. I also should comment that it is not really appropriate to crop the bottom of an image just because it has a cast shadow. It changes the composition of the artist's work. With Photoshop, you could isolate the floor in the foreground and make the shadow much lighter.
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Image:Große Springkraut (Impatiens noli-tangere).jpg, not featured edit

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Result: 4 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 14:03, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Crystal Palace, not featured edit

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  •  Info created by Philip Henry Delamotte - uploaded by Petrusbarbygere - nominated by Monfie -- Monfie (talk) 07:05, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Monfie (talk) 07:05, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose -- The earlier version of these pictures have a neutral, cream or beige background. The change to a stark white background is unnecessary, is out of keeping with the date of the image, and is less aesthetically appealing. On no account should a starkly black and white image be uploaded over a photographic image or printed image that originally has a tinted ground. Amandajm (talk) 09:07, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I think exactly the opposite. But resolution is too low here to be FP. Yann (talk) 14:29, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Yann, it's not entirely about personal taste. It is about the appropriate use and modification of a heritage item/primary source, which is someone's artwork, whether it is in copyright or not. The only justification for changing a photo on a coloured ground to a white ground, or changing a sepia photo to black and white is because the media in which it is going to be printed (e.g. a journal) is in monochrome, not colour. I would like to see the images on coloured paper reinstated, along with the black an white option. Amandajm (talk) 09:48, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Sorry to disagree, but there never was any color on these pictures. It was a fashion at that time to print pictures in sepia tone. I don't think there is any valid reason to continue this, except if you want to make a picture "look old", but this is not an educational purpose. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:00, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Saffron Blaze: "Lie" is a strong statement, and knowning what the artist intended is wide speculation. Sepia tone prints were done for technical reason: they withstand better the test of time, but with digital pictures, this reason disappeared. In my opinion, black and white represents better the reality of the original shot. Regards, Yann (talk) 06:31, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sepia tone prints were made for more than just technical reasons. There are many who deliberately used sepia toning for aesthetic reasons as well as what they considered as improving the image itself. Just because the negative is black and white does not mean we should be overriding the published product. It is not as if they were forced to use sepia toning. If they wanted the image to be truly black and white they could have published it as such. Saffron Blaze (talk) 13:59, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Interesting discussion. I agree with Saffron Blaze: if the original work used sepia toning, the digital copy should by no means remove that. But of course it would always be possible to offer an additional derivative version convertet to BW... --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 19:49, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Tilia May 2014-2.jpg edit

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Leaves of a Lime tree

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  • Fixed source URL now. What I meant was that the discovery (the volcanic geological formation with the organisms around it) is aspect of the video that I thought was remarkable, it was covered in news sources too. - Anonimski (talk) 17:08, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 1 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 21:41, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Hylobates lar - Kaeng Krachan WB.jpg, featured edit

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Result: 20 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 21:42, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Panoramic of Juan Griego 45.jpg, featured edit

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Panoramic of Juan Griego
✓ Done Thanks --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 21:36, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Presa del llano.jpg, not featured edit

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Paisaje de Estado de México
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Bill Clinton Boulevard, Pristina, Kosovo.
 Comment @Bourgeois.A: If you wanted to say "no wow", say so; but "poor quality" is certainly a wrong and unjust assumption here. --A.Savin 21:13, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Saint Mary Magadalena of Pazzy, Lisbon
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Mounts Ngauruhoe and Ruapehu seen from the summit of Mount Tongariro (New Zealand).
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Thank you, I have reprocessed the image. --Joydeep Talk 08:12, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
 Support much better --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 09:45, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Semuc Champey, Guatemala.jpg, featured edit

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Pools of Semuc Champey, Guatemala
  • I can fix the overexposure if needed I've fixed the overexposure, let me know if it is better. Now, I'm sorry to have failed both of my attempts at interpreting what makes an image go “wow” on Wikimedia. I've tried my best though—I'm new over here but I've been doing a lot of reading in order to understand the rules the best I could. I acknowledge that this is quite a subjective matter and respect any point of view but after seeing some simple basic building pictures being approved, I thought “how come a natural and beautiful place such as Semuc Champey could not produce a wow?”. I guess I was wrong, sorry again. --Christopher Crouzet (talk) 16:25, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'll have a look at the new version later (busy just now). I think this suffers a bit from not being eye-catching in the small preview and from the rather remote flat aerial view. The subject itself is certainly wow, but you've got to capture that. I encourage others to click on the picture as it does look better larger. -- Colin (talk) 18:22, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the feedback—I understand your point of view and agree with it. I've just updated the file with a new crop that focuses more on the pools by stripping out the foliage on the left part of the image. Not sure if it's enough to fix the issue in the small preview, maybe there's simply no way out. The jungle there didn't give me much choice about the locations from where I could take a snap—only one lookout was available afaik. But I've got a close-up shot from down there if it can be of any interest: https://www.flickr.com/photos/christophercrouzet/11780516846/ --Christopher Crouzet (talk) 19:27, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support The crop helps. I'm sufficiently wowed. I've looked online too and this is one of the better ones. Your close-up Flickr pic is a bit over-exposed (blown whites) but if that was fixed it could be a QI. I like your File:Copacabana, Bolivia.jpg pic-- certainly worth a shot at FP (bearing in mind the 2-photo-at-a-time limit). You're aiming high with nominating at FP for your first few images, but as long as you take a "win some, lose some" attitude then you'll be fine. And there's nothing bad about achieving QI for an image. Also consider if your pictures are superior to the ones illustrating Wikipedia articles. If they are, then use them there and they could be considered for Wikipedia FP, which has slightly different emphasis on Encyclopaedic Value. -- Colin (talk) 21:42, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Colin, thanks again for the feedback! I'll fix the overexposure bit in the other one and will post it in the QI section. I didn't post the photo of Copacabana neither in the FP nor QI sections because it has some stitching issues visible at full resolution and thought that this wouldn't be acceptable as per the quality requirements. Since the stitching was processed directly by the camera, there's no way for me to fix it. I've posted it instead as a candidate for the VI section but it sounds like it won't make it for an obscure warning that I don't understand yet. Also, yes—I love the Open Source spirit and like everyone my goal with Wikimedia is to share a few photos for anyone to use. Then it's even better if I can get some sort of recognition for my work but it isn't the priority. What I like so far about posting in the FP section is that it provided me with better feedbacks than I've ever had after years of Flickr. That's enough for me to make it worth it to post here and I hope that I can keep doing so for the photos that “wows” me (I'll aim for the other categories when more appropriate). To finish, I'm a bit hesitant at modifying Wikipedia pages with my own photos as it could fall in the category of “self-promotion” that I've read somewhere. A photo being better than an other is after all quite subjective, especially since I might be biased with my own work, so I thought I'd rather let that kind of changes to the judgement of others Wikipedians? --Christopher Crouzet (talk) 22:32, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Christopher: You stated you like the open source spirit. Then why are your photos uploaded here under CC BY-SA, while the same photo on Flickr is under CC BY-NC-ND? ;) I'm just curious. Usually my Flickr photos are uploaded under all rights reserved, but for those I upload here, they are also under CC BY-SA on Flickr. BTW I've followed your Flickr album. I'm the guy with called graphium evemon. Cheers. --(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 02:25, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've always wanted to make my code open source but have only recently been thinking about doing the same for my photos. As such, I'm doing the transition slowly, one photo at a time, by uploading them on WikiCommons. As I'm still not sure about the “consequences” of this politic yet, I won't update the licensing on Flickr for now. I hope this make sense (it doesn't necessarily for me). --Christopher Crouzet (talk) 12:18, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh no, don't leave it to text editor Wikipedians. In most cases I decide what is or isn't a suitable image for an article. You are no less an editor for using images and this concern over self-promotion is bunk. They don't seem to mind promoting their version of the text so you should have qualms about promoting your version of the illustrative aspect. In the rare instance that someone disagrees we discuss on the talk page, just as we would for any other kind of edit. Saffron Blaze (talk) 15:06, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'll reply later, on your talk page, as this is getting a little off-topic for this nom. -- Colin (talk) 07:49, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unfortunately, and as already stated above, there was no other chances for me to take photos because of the dense jungle. Either I could take snaps directly from down there, which was crowded with people everywhere like if it was Disneyland by the time I reached it, or from that lookout. I'll leave the climbing to the trees to others :) --Christopher Crouzet (talk) 12:18, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 10 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 03:04, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The Linderhof Palace, located in Ettal, Bavaria, Germany, was constructed in different phases between 1870 and 1886. It is one of the three palaces built by order of King Ludwig II of Bavaria (1845-1886) (together with Neuschwanstein and Herrenchiemsee), and the only one finished before his death.
By "dull" I mean boring, uninteresting rather than poor light. The trees are bare. And the little sheds on each side of the building are disturbing and not present in other photos. The angle and point-of-view is the main problem -- only the front façade is visible and there's no context, whereas this building is set in dramatic context and has an interesting roof. Choosing a good viewpoint for the subject is part of what makes a winning picture. -- Colin (talk) 12:05, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Kruzenshtern (ship, 1926), Sète

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Willow trees in the morning fog in Dernekamp in Dülmen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
  • ✓ Fixed Anyway. A new image with a corrected horizon was uploaded. IMO it looks more naturally. The appearance of the image is better. Thanks for your advice. --XRay talk 10:42, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 10:52, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose -- I just can't accept that this kind of exposure, lighting and motif are representative of our finest works. It is as if one very bad back lit tree photo got promoted and inexplicably ended up as a POTY finalist that everyone thinks they need one now. Saffron Blaze (talk) 13:59, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment  :Saffron Blaze, if a picture ended up as a POTY finalist, it is not a bad image. You sound like one of the 20th century dictators: there is my opinion and there is wrong opinion. Others have long forgotten the image you are talking about but you are still disturbed by it. Poor Saffron. You and Colin had a nice self-praising conversation at Colin's talk page. Hope you feel better now. But don't forget that POTY is vox populi. You don't decide what is good or bad, people do. If you don't agree with people, it means you are bad reviewer. --194.150.65.40 22:48, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment I'd like to defend this nomination, I really like the picture very much. Does exposure always have to be "correct"? And if it were in this case, wouldn't the whole atmosphere be gone just like the fog only one hour later? Sometimes it appears to me that FP is a captive of Straight Photography suffering from some kind of Stockholm Syndrome. Give Pictorialism a chance - at least occasionally ;-) --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 16:10, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Do you honestly believe I need a lecture on Straight Photography or Pictorialism? I have supported all kinds of art here at FPC and have in fact fostered the promotion of works other than landscapes, buildings and bugs. What I have not done is lower my standards in response to the onslaught of mediocre images being offered here. As an example of the genre you are espousing this is truly lacking. Saffron Blaze (talk) 19:07, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 5 support, 6 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 13:22, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Art Pavilion, Zagreb, capital of Croatia. The building was finished in 1898 and is located in the heart of the city, in the Nikola Šubić Zrinski Square, opposite to the Central Station. The pavilion, oldest gallery in the Southeast Europe, is used for exhibitions of contemporary art.
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Result: 12 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 13:24, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Uro boy
  •  Support Michael Barera (talk) 01:25, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • weak  Oppose Nice but the light is a bit harsh and I don't know exactly why but the fact that the child looks behind the camera is also a bit disturbing Christian Ferrer (talk) 08:57, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • weak  Oppose Sorry but I agree with Saffron.--ArildV (talk) 09:58, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support The more I look at this picture, the more I like it. It's hard to explain why, but I'll give it a try. First of all, I like the composition: The boy is placed according to the "rule of thirds", his eyes are where the left vertical and the top horizontal meet. With the waterline, we have a strong horizontal not too far away from the center and a strong vertical right in the middle. The other great thing about this image is that it tells a story – or, even better, just a part of it: So here we have a child on a boat on a bright sunny day, obviously going somewhere (nicely supported by our vertical). One might expect him to scream "Yay, adventure!" and go look out for imaginary pirates or something like that – but he doesn't. He's looking back with a strange expression on his face that's hard to interpret, but whatever it is: He doesn't look comfortable. And, strangely, that's what I like about the picture: I'm really puzzled. Is that fear in his eyes? And if yes: Is he afraid of where he's going? Or where he's coming from? Or maybe it's his first ride on a boat and he just doesn't know how to deal with this new situation? This is nicely underlined by the almost-too-bright general appearance of the whole situation on the one hand and the significant but not too dark shadow on his face. So in the end, it seems like my reasons for supporting are more or less the same reasons others have opposed – should I worry? --El Grafo (talk) 13:18, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for taking the time to share such a detailed point of view! If I may, I also like the expression on his face and can't explain it myself. I interacted with him a few moments before and he had a soft smile. He's holding a biscuit in his right hand (that we can barely see here) and has been happily devouring it from times to times. Maybe was he a bit concerned to get inbetween all those foliages? I don't know. I like it without knowing anyways—no one would enjoy Mona Lisa anymore if we knew what her smile meant. --Christopher Crouzet (talk) 15:41, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 6 support, 4 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 21:19, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Brevik estate.
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"Castle" Uçhisar in Cappadocia Turkey
Although on a wiki page, one can ask the Mediawiki software to render the image at any size, the image description page only offers a few choices and there's a huge jump from the largest to 100%. I think this lack of viewing flexibility encourages overly negative comments, because one jumps from screen-sized to 100% in one go, and it isn't so easy to view at 50%, 75% or 6MP, 12MP, unless one uses an external image viewer. I'm not opposed to downsampling where there is no loss of detail, and on this picture I estimate one could downsample to 66% without loss but no further.
Btw, Benh's "2/3 is made up data" claim isn't correct. I suspect you meant to say 1/3. To some extent this is an internet myth. It is true that the resolution captured by a Bayer sensor isn't as high as its stated resolution, and the colour resolution is significantly worse than luminance (which is fine, because the eye doesn't mind). But the conclusion made by some, that since e.g. the sensor only captures 2/3 the stated resolution, one can downsample to 2/3 size without loss of detail is easily proven to be false. Take one of your sharp pictures that are 100% copies out-of-camera. Downsample it to 66% then upsample it back to the original size. Flip between the two. Look at fine lettering in a sign, say. Depending on your eyesight and monitor dot-pitch, you might need to compare the two at 200% to see what is lost. You can get close if you apply some sharpening when you upsample. But it is still not as good. -- Colin (talk) 12:35, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • disclaimer : I know not much about signal processing and all. My claim was more to say "space is not free, no need to provide this big an image, when most of the data is irrelevant". If it's really about providing something as good as it gets, then we would upload plain TIFF but what does the extra space really bring ? Colin, I meant 2/3. One pixel on any sensor (bayer or not) captures either B, R or G channel. The two other channels value are recovered through interpolation, so I believe that, basically, 2/3 of the data is made up. The only case (to my knowledge) where downsampling equals throwing away data is Sigma's FOVEON sensor where each pixel really captures the RGB channels light. - Benh (talk) 15:08, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    It doesn't work that way. The demosaicing considers luminance and colour data separately. The reasons the Bayer sensor is so successful is because the eye isn't sensitive to colour resolution. This is also why many still and moving image formats store the colour data at lower resolution. The luminance is reconstructed mostly from the two green sensors in the grid but also from the other colours. While mathematically and on test charts, the sensor can't capture all XX MP it claims to, it will at times capture accurate pixel level detail and at other times smudge it. The demosaicing algorithms are more than just crude interpolation, and describing it as "made up" is unkind. Provided one uses a reasonable lens and low ISO, there really is pixel-level luminance detail in a JPG. The mistake that is made is assuming that downsampling is simply the inverse of the demosaicing algorithm. It isn't and is much cruder. So data is lost.
    But back on topic, I agree that modest downsampling can be justified if the image suffers no loss. This may happen more with huge stitched images and with the latest 24MP APC or 36MP FF sensors coupled with modest quality lenses. Or with high ISO images with heavy NR. But remember that JPG is pretty good at removing wasted data, which although not free, is pretty cheap. But can downsampling be demanded? Is looking at a 2-metre wide image from a distance of 20cm with one's reading glasses on, actually a fair way to judge? -- Colin (talk) 19:37, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm staying off topic since it seems "interesting" (for the rest we look to pretty much agree). Again, not to be necessarily taken for granted : Probably eyes are more sensitive to luminance data. That is why sensors have more green pixels. As far as I understood, Bayer pattern is more successful because it's easier to interpolate (always a data in the neighborhood of a blank pixel for a given channel). Far more than, say, X-trans pattern from Fuji which are troublesom to interpolate (but which have better low light capabilities because of the more green pixels). I'd like to point out that of course demosaicing is not "crude make up". But the only tweak we can bring to that process is to make the image look better. We can't guess data we don't have. But since most subjects we take have kind of predictible pattern, we often guess with good certainty. In some cases however, everything is torn appart. The monkey nomination above is a good example of where demosaicing struggles : the monkey details are just a mess because the patterns are not predictible and similar in size to a pixel (btw Author did a good job with careful selective NR). IMO a good approach is the one taken by Nokia in its latests smartphone : using a N zillion pixel sensor but outputing much smaller pictures because they are big enough container for the relevant data. - Benh (talk) 09:01, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    So in short : all pictures (good lense or not and all) can be downscaled to some extent without losing relevant data (Which btw should be the reason behind Nokia approach in their smartphone). - Benh (talk) 09:24, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmm. I'm not sure then what you mean by "without losing relevant data". You seem to imply "only chucking away stuff that was made up anyway" or even "getting closer to the truth". The transform that demosaicing makes isn't simply an enlargement so why should a reduction transform take one closer to the truth? The downsampling process is just as likely to eliminate reasonably faithful pixels as it does totally unfaithful pixels -- both get averaged out. It's like saying that because a 128Kbps MPG has lost a lot of fidelity, one might as well just play it back on a cheap portable stereo, or even that it will sound better on a cheap stereo compared to a decent hifi. The cheap stereo isn't capable of representing the full audio but in quite a different way to how MPG fails. If one wants an algorithm that is good a chucking away irrelevant picture data, one need look no further than JPG itself. A soft image will be capable of greater compression than a crisp one. Using compression is far more intelligent than a downsample that effectively averages every three pixels to two. -- Colin (talk) 12:14, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Another consideration is the three stages of sharpening: capture, creative and output. The first is designed to compensate for the loss due to the Bayer filter, AA filter, lens softness, etc. The second is up to the photographer as an artist. And the final step depends on the presentation medium (screen or print). Most image presentation websites (including MediWiki) apply some sharpening when presenting downsampled images. For MediWiki, a reduction of 85% or more will trigger "-sharpen 0x0.4" to be passed to ImageMagick when it downsamples.[2][3]. I don't know if this value is a good one or not, and whether Commons or Wikipedia actually use that default. The point is that it is only when rendering at the viewed size that one makes the final judgement about how much sharpening to apply. Theoretically, we should upload our images without any output-sharpening and let MediaWiki apply it on the final rendered JPG in Wikipedia. Re-users of Commons content would want the JPG without any "output sharpening" so they can resize it and choose the appropriate sharpening for their output size/format. You don't want to apply output sharpening twice.
    Back to what FP should be judging? The candidate above is soft at 100% but if a re-user resizes it or prints it at modest size while applying the appropriate output sharpening, then it can look really sharp. Commons is a repository of educational images that can be used for any purpose. Commons isn't a photo portfolio website -- if it was then the image would certainly be offered at a size that doesn't expose any flaws, and sharpened already to a degree that looks crisp on screen. Perhaps we really do need to find a way to nominate an image at FP for review at a certain size, which may not correspond to the size of the uploaded JPG. So Moroder could nominate a 16MP sized rendering of this image but still, if he wants to, upload the 36MP version. -- Colin (talk) 12:14, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Colin: Actually, you can view it at any resolution on-wiki by clicking one of the lower-resolution versions (say, 1280px), and replacing the 1280 with whatever you want. --King of 01:28, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Benh and Colin for those most interesting and helpful comments. --Cayambe (talk) 06:29, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 14 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 14:37, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Leaves of zinnia flower in jaffna.JPG, not featured edit

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Leaves_of_zinnia_flower
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Ruins of Arthur-de-Buyer coal mine buildings during a winter evening.
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Result: 22 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /Graphium 01:54, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Star bavarian Order of Saint Hubert Schatzkammer Residenz Munich.jpg, featured edit

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Star of the bavarian Order of Saint Hubert.
If you need light use more exposition and this will allow a sharp picture. I remember taking pictures in dark places where no tripod allowed, then I realized many shots per section with high ISO and then joined, then reduce the size of the photo and now have a picture sharp, consisting of several photos of a small object . --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 11:48, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose It is technically adequate, but not outstanding. There is a lack of fine detail and crisp edges and the specular highlights are off-white rather than dazzling. I agree with Wilfredo that the high iso (and corresponding NR) reduces the detail captured (I have a similar sensor in my camera). The super-zoom lens used probably isn't best for close-up product photography where filling the frame with the subject could have added another 50% more resolution on the same camera (black surround then added afterwards as needed). -- Colin (talk)
    • Since some days ago, I think I've to write to you about your comments. I'm not happy that the occasion is because of one of my pictures, but looking at your recent ratio support/oppose, dear Colin, I'm not surprised by your opposition I was waiting of. For sure, you should be very very unhappy these times, and wearing the white knight armor should not be easy every day... Please be sure that like you, I'm able to oppose any picture with any argument, regardless of which (with your way to do, pseudo technical are better, indeed). (Almost ? ) all your recent opinions are negative, you never (or rarely) support, this is discouraging and not constructive. I'm only here since four years and a half, but I've seen many reviewers like you, suffering of the syndrome :"It was better before". Of course it is wrong. My friendly advice: have a little break from this page...--Jebulon (talk) 17:48, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks Jebulon for your concern for my happiness. I agree with you that one could formulate some complaint over any picture and that one should not vote when unhappy. But I disagree that I "never (or rarely) support". I'm sure you appreciate that voting ratios are meaningless. We have numerous voters who only ever support -- are they to be requested to refrain until they can recalibrate their opinions? Since you think I'm out of step, I made an analysis of voting since the beginning of March. The community made 1614 supports and 498 opposes (76% support) yet of the 253 nominations, only 98 were promoted (38.7% promotion). This disconnect between explicit voting and nomination outcome indicates that measuring explicit votes is not an accurate measure of what a voter (or community of voters) actually think about all the nominations. Most voters are going "meh" and not voting, or are disinclined to pile on existing opposition. They are, to some degree, freeloading on the actions of others. You and I have disagreed on a couple of recent nominations but also agreed on many others. Look at User:Colin/ColinFPVoting and User:Colin/JebulonFPVoting for all our votes since the beginning of March. Of the 67 images I opposed, the community promoted 11 of them (16%), though I was rarely alone in my opposition. Of the 18 images you opposed, the community promoted 6 of them (33%). In addition, you are more likely than me to make a neutral/absent vote alongside a clearly negative comment, but of those, the vast majority got promoted. So I ask, do you think my judgement is any more at odds with the consensus result than yours? No, rather we are just a community of mixed opinions and some of us are more bold in expressing them than others. Nostalgia is certainly not the issue: we have plenty poor quality old FPs to disprove that. Mediocrity is the issue and frequent complaint throughout the history of FP. The only defence against promoting mediocrity is to vote oppose. -- Colin (talk) 22:18, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        • "Mediocrity" is a subjective concept, and statistics mean nothing more than statistics. You counted my  Comment like my "neutral", and "neutral" is a vote, but not "comment"...And what about human factor ?(place of the vote during the process, what to do after six "pro", revenge votes, hidden canvassing, etc...etc...)--Jebulon (talk) 22:14, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
          • "Neutral" is just explicitly saying "I looked at this photo and can neither persuade myself to support nor oppose" (yes). Leaving a comment without a vote is implicitly doing the same thing (no). And most such comments (by anyone) are negative or give a reason why support is not offered. I don't find the distinct important (I do) as it doesn't directly affect the outcome, and you'll see above I called them "neutral/absent". Your first sentence, which dismisses my entire response, has no argumentative weight whatsoever. You might as well written "Pah!" (but I did not). Of course of opinions are subjective -- even measurable aspects such as sharpness or dynamic range have to be weighed subjectively against the quality of composition, subject, wow, etc. We are not machines. Statistics are of course only as good as the extent to which they measure something real rather than imaginary. I listed all the FP candidates you and I voted/commented on. You can see for yourself that I'm no more likely to vote oppose against community consensus than you are. As I said to Saffron on my talk page, given nearly 2/3 of nominations fail, as one tends towards voting on more nominations, one's ratio would also tend to approximate 2/3 oppose without necessarily being harsher. This is all you are seeing, Jebulon. I suggest you've noticed a couple of recent candidates where I opposed and you supported and have assumed I'm consistently negatively "wrong" and "never (or rarely) support". Rather than base my opinions on a couple of recent candidates that caught my attention, I sought to gather unbiased facts. They speak for themselves. -- Colin (talk) 07:18, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
            • I'm afraid that as this point, there is no way for a mutual agreement between us in this discussion. No offense, but I suggest we stop here, as I make you spend too much time, and as for me, I've no time enough, neither the relevant nor precise english vocabulary to argue efficiently in a debate which is more and more far from the assessments of the wonderful picture I offer here to the community ... Sorry and thank you.--Jebulon (talk) 09:59, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
              • I'm glad to spend no longer on the off-topic issue of my voting patterns. But Jebulon, I don't know why you think a "close-up product shot" taken without tripod at high iso using a 18-250mm super-zoom lens should be immune from criticism when offered as an example of our finest work. The question is whether its good attributes outweigh the bad. This subjective judgement is not easy and why I'm happy it is done by consensus of a group rather than one individual. And you should be happy too, because the consensus is in your favour. -- Colin (talk) 11:50, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
                • Rrrhôôô... I don't think what you say (a "close-up... etc etc immune for criticisme etc etc...finest work). I never said that. Please re-read my first comment, it was off-topic since the beginning (my fault, sorry), and was only about my feeling about your way of voting in general. I admit that I should have written this on your talk page, better than here. Have a nice week-end, dear Colin.--Jebulon (talk) 14:55, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral I am not convinced either by the sharpness, but good work overall and nice subject. Poco2 15:58, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --JLPC (talk) 17:37, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 12:52, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 9 support, 2 oppose, 1 neutral → featured. /Graphium 01:52, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Himantopus leucocephalus
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File:Wrocław - Jahrhunderthalle6.jpg, featured edit

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Centennial Hall and "Iglica" in front of it in Wrocław, Poland
Please distinguish between towers, poles and pole similar sculptures ;-) --Wladyslaw (talk) 18:53, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 21 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /Jee 08:42, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:BMW Polo Masters Megève - 20140126 - Ladies Charriol Cup 3.jpg, not featured edit

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File:Peter Paul Rubens - The Fall of Phaeton (National Gallery of Art).jpg, not featured edit

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File:01-01-2014 - Messeturm - trade fair tower - Frankfurt- Germany - 01.jpg, featured edit

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Messeturm - trade fair tower - Frankfurt
I measure 0.1 degree. -- Colin (talk) 11:40, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 11 support, 2 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 21:47, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Jeune fille et son chien, Jean-Honoré Fragonard, HUW 35, Alte Pinakothek Munich.jpg, featured edit

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"Mädchen mit Hund", Fragonard, Alte Pinakothek, Munich.
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File:Altental hdr mantiuk06.jpg edit

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Example how to create an HDR Image using Luminance HDR.
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: HDR effects far too strong for any purpose of this project a FP that is not exactly supposed to illustrate these effects. --DXR (talk) 22:14, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply] Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.

File:Torkilstöten July 2013 02.jpg edit

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File:Estadio da Luz 2012.jpg edit

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Estádio da Luz
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: I'm afraid there is no more chance for any success, due to the flaws noticed and the number of "contra" votes.--Jebulon (talk) 11:36, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply] Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.

File:Chloris chloris female.jpg, featured edit

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European greenfinch, Chloris chloris, female
Thanks Wilfredo. I don't usually get much sun to work with here in the northern UK, so I tend to get over-excited when it finally makes an appearance :) The female is quite a low contrast subject - in fact it normally looks fairly dull - and I think direct sunlight works to "lift" it here; however, I'll investigate tweaking the contrast in the original and see how it looks. Cheers --Baresi F (talk) 20:12, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Baresi franco: "not much sun to work with" I don't quite get what you mean. Sunlight not strong enough? Or days are not long enough? :) --Graphium 01:49, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Dull, grey skies are the norm here, @Graphium: - think L. S. Lowry paintings. Days are never long enough, of course - that goes without saying ;) --Baresi F (talk) 11:37, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 12 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 07:55, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Fiddler crabs fighting in La Restinga.jpg, not featured edit

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Fiddler crabs fighting in La Restinga
✓ Done It was not easy, however, I have managed to talk to a biologist friend --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 10:40, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Lilienstein and Elbe river from Koenigstein Saxony.jpg, not featured edit

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Areal view of the German river Elbe between the city Königstein in Saxony (Germany) and the mountain Lilienstein. It is located in the Saxon Switzerland.
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File:Parasol oder Riesenschirmpilz, Macrolepiota procera 3.JPG, featured edit

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@Uoaei1: ok, I respect your opinion, but do you think that the picture did not capture a good angle of the mushroom?! Look at the details of it. To me, this image is amazing! Cheers! ;) ArionEstar (talk) from Google Translate. 16:38, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This is a very common mushroom in my area, so I prefer to see it on my plate rather than on the screen --Uoaei1 (talk) 07:15, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
danke :-)) --Böhringer (talk) 10:31, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 8 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 07:53, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Chambord Castle Northwest facade.jpg, featured edit

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Northwest façade of Chambord castle
The middle of the building is in the dead centre of the image. -- Colin (talk) 14:52, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The whole building is not symmetrical. And you can see the north wing (left on the photo) is shorter than the south one (probably because the construction was done in several phases). As pointed out by Colin, I probably gave priority to the center of the building (but can't remember). - Benh (talk) 15:00, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 19 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 15:29, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Koch – Mayor of the City of New York.jpg, not featured edit

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Ed Koch
One SVG version ensures quality when reproduced on paper --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 19:25, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Are you saying that rather than ink the artist, who's graphic artwork now resides in the National Portrait Gallery, should have used Inkscape and printed it on an inkjet? Or that someone on Commons should try to trace it? Some context: here: ""Ed Koch loved graphic art. He saw my drawings in May of 2011, invited me to his law office, Bryan Cave LLP, and posed for "Koch – Mayor of the City of New York". About four months later the portrait was finished and I invited him to look at it. He was pleased, "I love the blue lines! This drawing looks like me."" Dmitry Borshch" and the artist's entry at the National Portrait Gallery. -- Colin (talk) 20:52, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Colin (talk) 19:20, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Not my taste, sorry. Frankly, I find this design rather ugly. And I strongly disagree with Martin or Saffron, no offense. I cant share their argument for a support. I think it is not a good idea to "feature" any picture in order to promote "our cause", but because of our consensus regarding the own qualities of the picture.--Jebulon (talk) 19:41, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • No worries. I suppose this kind of work is not for everyone. I will say in addition to the desire to see more works like this I am still impressed with the work in and of itself. Saffron Blaze (talk) 22:23, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • De Gustibus et coloribus non disputandum, but I agree with you, we need more and more of this kind of major works, modern art under free licenses, given by their authors, here in "Commons". However this, in itself, should not be "the" reason for a support vote (IMO).-Jebulon
  • I think it is really great that the artist himself made this available under a free license. I can't vote on the artistic value of this – I have no expertise here. What's bugging me is, that this doesn't appear to be a faithful digital reproduction of the original ink on paper work: Most parts of the background are plain white (ffffff) where I would expect to see the structure of the paper. Also, most of the filled blue areas have the exact same blue color (000c8b) – you can't tell me that that's possible with ink. Some major digital post-processing seems to have taken place here. That's not necessarily a bad thing, as this comes from the original artist himself – I would tend to consider this as a separate work (similar maybe to Van Gogh painting multiple versions of his Bedroom in Arles). The problem I have with this is, that it is not poperly documented on the file description page, where it simply says "ink on paper". So that's an  Oppose for me at the moment. --El Grafo (talk) 10:13, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support as earlier.
1. I was away for a week; just saw the discussion on talk page now. Agree with the decision to remove the FP badge as one vote was invalid. And sorry; I should be more careful.
2. I remember that case. It was a strange nomination and from a newcomer here. As a result, he made many mistakes, including making "request to vote" on the talk page of many regulars here. I noticed it and discouraged. Now I understand how that invalid vote came. Not a sock as he is an established user at EN. But rules are rules; so we need another run. ;(
3. Hope this second run (due to my mistake) will not insult that very valuable artist. Jee 17:01, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Dear All, it's me whose vote was invalid and such situation arised. I didn't notice that I must have 50 contribution before I should vote, so I voted last time (thinking that the voting rule is same here as in english wiki). I am sorry for my mistake and assure you that it was unintentional.......Have a nice evening...Godhulii 1985 (talk) 18:00, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose per Jebulon. --AmaryllisGardener talk 01:44, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Thank you to all who supported this nomination! My image description is accurate: ink on very white paper. The drawing was photographed in pieces and reconnected using Photomerge. Some distortion always happens during photographing. Areas of uniform (blue) color are possible with ink -- airbrushing is one method.
"Koch – Mayor of the City of New York" has been exhibited at the Institute of Oriental Studies (Moscow), DePaul University (Chicago), Brecht Forum (New York), CUNY Graduate Center (New York), and Palace of Culture and Science (Warsaw).
Russian American Cultural Center on ArtDiscover
DmitryBorshch (talk) 02:04, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yann, I don't think this should be judged like a photograph or self-made-illustration where educational value of the subject might be relevant. Nor are we, imo, judging whether this is a good portrait of the subject. Instead, the criteria at "Artworks, illustrations, and historical documents" should apply. So one might judge if this portrait is notable enough, or a good example of a particular type or school of art (i.e. graphic art), or historically valuable. For me, I think this is a good example of this kind of artwork, even if it might not be to my taste. -- Colin (talk) 12:25, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 11 support, 6 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 21:38, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Basílica Menor de Nuestra Señora del Valle, Isla Margarita.jpg edit

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Basílica Menor de Nuestra Señora del Valle, Isla Margarita

 I withdraw my nomination You are right Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 18:47, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:A Chinook helicopter and a Royal Marine rigid-inflatable boat (RIB), off Studland Bay, Dorset, UK. MOD 45155975.jpg, featured edit

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"A Chinook helicopter and a Royal Marine rigid-inflatable boat (RIB), off Studland Bay, Dorset, UK."
  •  Info created by "LA PHOT HAMISH BURKE" - uploaded by - nominated by Pine -- Pine 07:11, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Pine 07:11, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Oddly, I had this on my backlog to think about nominating as a FP. The MoD publishes around 50 photographs a month on its images archive, representing what they feel are the best of its photography library of interest to the public and using their API I upload these as they become available; it would be great to have an exemplar photograph to FP status in order to showcase the collection. This photograph was part of the Royal Navy Peregrine Trophy photography competition. As well as aesthetically pleasing in composition and colour, this would have been a technically challenging shot, to get a clear silhouette directly against the low sunlight. -- (talk) 07:24, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks . Would you also put this note on the English Wikipedia nomination? I think the additional information is valuable for evaluators. Thanks, --Pine 07:34, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done -- (talk) 08:15, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment I am satified this is a featurable subject, but some technicasl issues were raised and should be addressed. Most notably the noise. Saffron Blaze (talk) 14:09, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Comment Echoing Saffron. I suggest the issue(s) be fixed first before this picture is promoted to FP status. --Graphium 14:43, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have uploaded a new version with colour noise reduced using a standard filter in Photoshop (don't forget to refresh your version). I am not sure if this is sufficient or excessive, happy for others to have a go at this using their own tools. -- (talk) 15:11, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Given the low detail motif I would say that is sufficient. I think anyone would agree it's not perfect technically, but the striking visual and composition makes the difference. Thanks. Saffron Blaze (talk) 00:23, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 10 support, 2 oppose, 1 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 19:12, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Beijing China Forbidden-City-06.jpg, not featured edit

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Detail of the sculpture of a chinese lion in the Forbidden City, Beijing.
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Result: 2 support, 0 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 19:13, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Benny Trapp Rhinechis scalaris Jugendzeichnung Portugal.jpg, not featured edit

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Result: 2 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 19:12, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Lepus europaeus (Uitkerke).jpg, not featured edit

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Result: 9 support, 6 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 19:13, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Monumento Virgen de La Paz II.jpg, not featured edit

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Monumento Virgen de La Paz
 Comment You would expect a statue of the Virgin Mary to have halos, wouldn't you? Daniel Case (talk) 03:10, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Good one. I didn't even think of the connection when I wrote that. Saffron Blaze (talk) 18:03, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 2 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 19:14, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:The Impact of Wikipedia Adrianne Wadewitz.webm, not featured edit

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Result: 1 support, 2 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 19:15, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sedov (ship, 1921), Sète, Hérault 07.jpg edit

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  • Framing. The ship is too far to the right in the picture and the top third blue/grey sky isn't helping to interest the viewer. Let's try a 21:9 crop rather than the 16:10 here:
21:9 crop
I'd prefer a bit more room above the mast but I think this is an improvement.
  • Detail and colour. The ship was quite some distance from the photographer and a longer lens (or crop-format camera) would have helped with reach but not with clarity. Let's compare with another photograph of this ship:
Sedov, Gdynia, 20090705, 3
Since the above looks a little soft at 100%, here's a link I've resized so the ship is the same height as the nomination at 100%. (The ships appear different widths because of the angle of view). The contrast, sharpness and clarity in the above picture is just many orders of magnitude better. One can make out the ring round the portholes. But compare also the colours. In the nomination, the vibrance knob in Lightroom was cranked up to +62 (it has a remarkable ability to cut through haze and restore a little contrast/colour, but with some side effects). But it can't work miracles and the result for the ship is like an underexposed picture whereas the sea ends up too blue. In the above picture, fully lit by sun, the brown colours of the mast and woodwork are clear and faithful, and the dark paint contrasts with the white. In the nomination, we have it lit by two colour temperatures: warm sunlight at the very front and cold blue shade for the rest. The leading mast looks almost pink and the paintwork washed out.
  • Presentation The nomination has the ship's sails unfurled, which is good. I like the shadow of the sails on the sails behind -- that's a nice effect. But overall the ship is too much in shadow. The above photo isn't as fully unfurled. However it appears to have been taken by a photographer in a boat circling the ship. So we can have a look at the other side (from 45 mins earlier and even closer):
Sedov, Gdynia, 20090705, 1
Which makes a pair with strong EV in addition to technical superiority -- a possible Featured Picture Set? -- Colin (talk) 20:14, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I prefer the 21:9 crop indeed. The upper third with the grey sky makes the composition somewhat boring for me. --A.Savin 07:52, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Of course Alexander, if you want to see the 21:9 cropped version promoted, you can propose it as an alternative (or/and oppose this one), this version is not my taste however I will respect that. But I would be grateful to you and to the others for not putting previews of all the photos of categories. Because if all of us we add 3 differents prewiew at all the nominations, where are we go? where is the limit? 1,2,3...10 prewiews? You can oppose by being very strict and severe however the voluntary disturbances of this page are to be banished IMO. --Christian Ferrer 11:08, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Christain, instead of viewing Colin's efforts as strict and severe you could have taken them as well considered constructive criticism. Perhaps if more people did this we would't have a 75% failure rate at COM:FPC. If 75% of the nominations are failing it is because photgraphers are not self-curating and/or ignoring the guidelines. Saffron Blaze (talk) 16:44, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Needs a little crop at left IMO, but I like the shadows of the veils very much.--Jebulon (talk) 09:25, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment For clarity: I removed the previews by converting the to links when I read the concern by the author on A.Savin's talk. I did it as a long time (not so) participant here, to avoid the friction I'm seeing here nowadays. It doesn't meant I support any side. My opinion:
I had removed off topic previews earlier, as it affect the nomination. But here they are on topic. But still I prefer links than a preview as far as they are alternative candidates.
I see now A.Savin prefer an alt. But adding alts at this stage is not very helpful counting the supports.
My best suggestion: I see many times other nominating works of active participants here. IMHO, it is not good. Give the author enough time to select his preferred one or discuss it with him prior to the nomination. (Nomination of works of JJH or Yathin is a different case as they are not very active here.) Otherwise we will end up featuring not the best which is not our purpose here.
I've "no comment" about this nomination as this is not my area of expertise.
I wish more friendlier environment here than nowadays. It doesn't mean everybody support all nominations. Be truthful to your reviews. Authors should be more tolerant to positive criticisms. Hope you all understand what I mean. Jee 11:58, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Everyone knows that alternative nominations are done using a subheading, that they are usually only done by the nominator, and they would typically have a support vote after them otherwise what would be the point. If Christian felt my comments/images were confusing, he could have asked me and I'd have clarified, or possibly turned them into links myself. Could we all please allow editors a chance to improve/fix their own edits rather running off to some admin accusing them of sabotage. As for nominating others' works: I think it polite to ask the photographer first (with the obvious exception for those photographers who don't frequent Commons). -- Colin (talk) 12:21, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Pardon me if I were wrong. I took the freedom here as I know both of you and consider as friends. As I said earlier, I didn't part with any side in this case. Just trying for FP's good. :) Jee 12:34, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, you did nothing wrong -- your edit was in good faith. -- Colin (talk) 12:54, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose -- I use high end hardware calibrated monitors and when I look at Christian images I always get the sense the colour is off. This is the case here too. However, that is not the root of the oppose. I just don't think an image of a zoomed in, heavily cropped tall ship in questionable light represents the finest we can expect for such works. Saffron Blaze (talk) 12:05, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose -- can follow Colins arguments Arcalino (talk) 17:54, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --P e z i (talk) 18:39, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose the composition doesn't works for me. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 21:15, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm rather satisfied. Thanks to you I finally discovered something on me, I think Colin is right on the fact I'm intolerant, I have just seen that. I think that he tried to tell it to me several time. And I am also satisfied to learn that I've just to ask to him to not put previews on the nominations page : ok : please don't do it again (links:ok, previews: not ok). I was intolerant in the right to talk(vote, comment) of others : yes, but if you think that I am going to listen to you on the choice on the nominations you're wrong. I don't care about your 75% or of any percentages. For me more nominations=more participants=more votes=more representative of the finest. And in more my nominations and all the connectred discussions make me learn I was intolerant = I was right to insist; of course. I am going to continue; no doubt. Really, thank you very much. --Christian Ferrer (talk) 05:10, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • This whole preview/link thing is overblown and just your own, as you say, intolerance, and seeing bad motives where there was none. I'm not persuaded at all that they caused any real problem, and shall decided for myself in future whether they help my reviews rather than be bossed about by you. You don't own this page and this isn't even your nomination. -- Colin (talk) 07:44, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Christian, more nominations does not = more finest. Quality, not quantity, is what counts when it comes to selecting nominations and selecting winners. If this forum stops representing highest-quality images then some of our photographers will simply leave. There has to be a point where the award "finest on Commons" actually means something. And if all it takes to achieve FP is a bunch of "like" votes from one's friends, then proper critical reviewing will also stop. And those who actually want to learn from the comments and advice of others in order to improve, they will also leave. The uncritical support votes at the start of this nomination represent FP failing at its job. "Oh look, Christian's taken a picture of a pretty ship rather than some dull scrub land". Never mind we have better photographs of the very same ship. Never mind it is so murky that it shouldn't even pass QI. *sigh*. -- Colin (talk) 07:44, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I understood nothing but it must certainly be true, thank you. --Christian Ferrer (talk) 10:59, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Noone is asking you to stop participating. Some are concerned that images are getting a pass at COM FPC that shouldn't. This is a good example because technically it is very deficient. Almost every light and colour setting has been manipulated to the extreme (see EXIF) such that you have people saying the water colour is "irreal". Frankly I find all the colours are incorrect. Sorry Christain, this is not a good picture by any objective standard and it is certainly not one of the finest on Commons. Yet we have this situation where all these people are supporting it. So the question becomes why are they supporting... do they want to lower standards here? Do they honestly belive this is the finest? Are they feeling sorry that so many of your images fail here? I don't actually know what percentage of your images pass here. I am of the opinion, unless 80%+ of my nominations pass, I am doing something wrong and not meeting the expectations of the project. Saffron Blaze (talk) 13:49, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm busy and I've not the time to answer in english sorry. Je n'ai pas nominé cette photo, qu'est que tu veux? que je withdraw? qu'est que tu fais des autres votes? il semble que bien qu'imparfaite, elle plaise. Dans cette page tu supporte une image qui est IMO bien moins réussi techniquement que celle-ci, pourquoi tu la supporte? peut-etre elle a quelquechose de spécial, (pas besoin de m'expliquer ce que tu lui trouve, je respecte ton opinion de toutes façon). On en vient donc à pourquoi j'ai tous ces supports?, peut etre que certains y voit quelque chose qui leur plait, et peut etre qu'il y a aussi des votes de sympathie, c'est tout à fait juste. Mais je n'ai rien demandé et si (Colin en tete depuis des semaines et des mois!!) vous arretiez d'attirer l'attention sur moi, j'en aurais surement moins des votes de sympathie. Et tu sais quoi : Je ne demande que çà! Christian Ferrer (talk) 17:16, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I won't pretend to understand half of what is written here, but I do accept this was not Christian's nomination. However, File:Kruzenshtern (ship, 1926), Sète, Hérault 01.jpg was you are gaining from a rebound effect. I don't know of any other FP-regular who refuses to select their finest works, but instead over-nominates QI-level material on a constant basis, with the effect that we get weird results like this one. It really isn't fair on the Commoners who select their finest yet still end up getting a hard time over the slightest CA or noise or sharpness at 100% or some other triviality. I'm quite certain that if this image was some random Flickr picture that a newbie nominated, most of those supporting above would have torn it to shreds with glee. This, together with allegations of sabotage make this candidacy reflect very poorly on the community. -- Colin (talk) 18:49, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I think some of you are going somewhat too far with your statements here. You can argue that the not very accurate representation of the colors (which is certainly far more difficult to achieve from a mountain than from another boat) should have kept me from supporting in hindsight, but effectively implying that supporters only supported out of mercy or out of incompetence is not fair and also not correct, imo. I genuinely like the image and as mentioned, I find the perspective from an elevated viewpoint more interesting and less usual than the perspective chosen in Colin's examples. --DXR (talk) 20:05, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    DXR your early support comment was more considered than most. And in any picture one will have a spread of opinion and not all of us will ever agree (which is good and wonderful). I don't expect many/any people to change their minds because we are all too defensive by nature. All of us must decide whether the good points outweigh the bad. And on that measure I'd expect this picture to be a much closer call than it is. What we see here is simply an uncritical pile-on of support. And I cannot understand any reason to support the previous dreadful nomination that reflects well on those who did so. So I think there's an unconscious rebound effect going on here, which will continue to benefit the strategy of nominating bad, bad, mediocre, bad, bad, mediocre. I find myself wanting to find a reason to support Christian's pictures because of so many opposes and so many failures. But then catch myself because I should be judging the picture and that alone. You say you "genuinely like the image" and it is a fine ship to regard. But "like" is for Flickr and Facebook. -- Colin (talk) 22:31, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    ... and that is exactly why images of tallships I have taken have stayed on Flickr. Saffron Blaze (talk) 22:36, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, you could just swap "like" with "wow", in that case, but of course many points you mention do make sense. But that is basically due to the fundamentally flawed FPC voting process. The main reason for my comment was that I just think that all sides here should try to make an effort not to get too obsessed with their respective opinions of what is right and wrong, here and on some talk pages, since this really has been a recurring theme for weeks now. --DXR (talk) 22:50, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Colin, you said I've to ask you if I want something, ok. Saffron Blaze, Colin, You said your points of view, so please now I ask you to not add comment for now. And for the others (who have supported) : Paris 16, Yann, DXR,Uoaei1, Poco, Martin Falbisoner, Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H., AK, JLPC, Michael Barera, Joydeep, ArildV, Jebulon, P e z i, it is suggered by Saffron that many of you have supported because you are feeling sorry that so many of my images fail here, ok if you did a vote like that its nice from you but I don't want a thing like that, so please I ask you sincerely if you did that, don't do it again for my future nominations and also for all because it deserve the project and here we search the finest. And if you really supported my image as the finest, I'm happy if you like my image. You're all free to add comments after that but my comment don't need answers. Christian Ferrer (talk) 04:29, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    And of course you can remove you support if you can follow Colin's arguments, it is not a problem and even I ask you for that. Christian Ferrer (talk) 04:38, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • What's that ? I read this discussion very carefully, but I don't want to be involved more than my vote. I'm not a schoolboy. I've supported (furthermore, with explanations!). I still have no reasons to change my vote. Period.--Jebulon (talk) 09:05, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Christian, I really love this photograph and believe that it deserves to be a featured picture. My vote certainly wasn't a pity vote. While I think that some of your nominations are more along the lines of quality images than featured pictures, I won't ever hesitate to vote for your photographs if I believe they deserve FP status. And, to reiterate, I really believe that this image should be featured. Thanks for taking it, uploading it, and nominating it here. Take care! Michael Barera (talk) 04:45, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        • Michael Barera, I've a complaint about your voting style. You seem to be visiting the FPC page once in every week (mostly on Sundays) and add a support to almost all nominations within few minutes. I can see more than vote within a minute. May be you pre reviews all images and adding votes altogether. Otherwise, I think it is not helpful to our process. Many of those nominations should have speedy closed per 5 day rule if you didn't do so. Just a fair criticism. :) Jee 06:15, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • I don't want to join this overboiling discussion. Just a comment to my vote: I love windjammer and this picture has wow even in the preview size. The only modification I'd like to suggest is cropping a part of the sky. --P e z i (talk) 10:02, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Christian Ferrer, I know you've asked me not to comment but what you have done here is to ask only one question when there are a multitude of possible reasons why the pile-on of uncritical support occurred. And the question you asked is least likely to be admitted to. If "feeling sorry for you" had any influence on voting patterns here it is likely to be subconscious and only only aspect of voting failure. Nobody is going to respond "Yes, Christian, I voted support simply because I am sorry your last ship photo failed, and also because I knew it would annoy Colin". Anyone doing so would be asked to leave the forum. You've pinged a lot of folk to look at this discussion, which is probably a good thing if they haven't already. Please, folks, read from the top, look at the links I gave to that other photo of the same ship. Compare the contrast, colours, detail. Consider if you'd have supported any other subject that was so much in shadow, so unfaithfully coloured, and so murky from the distance. But really, I wouldn't expect anyone here to respond other than utterly defensively. I know I would. So a pile-on of responses like Michael's above tells us nothing. Please let's just close this discussion with agreement between me and Christian that we should all be trying to select the "finest", and not just going "like". -- Colin (talk) 07:04, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

When we see that there are several supporters of this nomination who are normally well-known for their critical, objective and careful FPC reviews, this picture perhaps indeed isn't as far from our FP standards as you have claimed all the time. --A.Savin 08:52, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • A.Savin, that is a valid point. It is because you and others are highly credible reviewers that annomalies like this vote draw so much attention. Particulaly since this is not the first time we have seen a result like this lately. I don't expect everyone to vote with a single hive mind mentality, but I honestly believe that things are changing here and that those changes are not in line with this project's mandate or long standing ideals. Saffron Blaze (talk) 15:18, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A.Savin's point is essentially peer pressure and an appeal to authority, which is one explanation for the long unbroken run of supports. Peer pressure is generally considered a bad thing, being responsible for a run on the banks, stock market crashes and the popularity of "drop crotch pants [trousers]". I'd prefer to be swayed by quality of argument rather than quantity. And ultimately prefer for everyone to make up their own minds rather than go along with others, no matter what their track-record. But consider this: the first critical comment, expressing disappointment, noting the ship was in shadow, and that the photographer was too far away from the subject, was not made by me. I'm quite persuaded by that argument of Christian's, even though (understandably) he still supported. -- Colin (talk) 17:48, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that there is a frustration from primary two users towards Christian (based on how he nominates images here). I understand if Christian gets frustrated that the same criticism is repeated again and again in different nominations and discussion pages.

(I once wrote about why the third reply causes many conflicts on Wikipedia. User A writes some critical observations to user B. User B read the message, understand, but responds a little defensive. User A have two choices here; either let user B think about it and choose how he will act in the future or write the third reply. In the third reply repeat user A the same thing, just a little more aggressive and irritated. And user B reply more aggressive and irritated. And here we go...)

I am concerned that the conflict is escalating here. Innocent civilians like I myself (which only in good faith carefully review images) are being drawn into the conflict. The conflict is based upon various assumptions, assumption that characterize participants' views of each other and the conflict. Very few people outside the conflict share the assumptions.

I would please ask you to be more careful while making negative assumptions about each other (but also about the rest of us).--ArildV (talk) 07:18, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I agree with ArildV. Cast the vote and run away; never ever visit that page even somebody pinged you. Same applicable to the nominator too. Make a nom; go away, and come back after 9 days to see the result. :) Jee 09:18, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This section has devolved to "Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer". Please everyone, if you've come here to defend your vote, don't waste your time. If you are interested at all in why this is a waste of time, see the comment I made on ArildV's talk page. It is long past time to move on. -- Colin (talk) 10:07, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest you not to "vote and run away" but just run away. Go away and don't come back after 9 days. This project has very little to do with photography, the voting is very political. The only way to improve the situation is to include more reviewers. Colin and Saffron are playing god here right now. They seem to know when people are objective and when they are confused. In my opinion the only reason why their comments are stronger and dominate over this project is that they are native speakers. Their fluent and rich language is impressive indeed. This however does not add any weight to their opinion. Don't be fooled. They have also just one vote, just like you. You are all equal here. Now you can make fun of my mistakes... --146.255.183.19 11:36, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Old dairy factory laboratory.
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File:Presa de El Atazar - 01.jpg, featured edit

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El Atazar Dam, Community of Madrid, Spain.
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Winter scene of the watching tower, dam and Mavrovo Lake, Mavrovo National Park, Republic of Macedonia. The park, founded in 1949, is the largest (of the three existing) in the country with 780 km2, while the lake has a length of 10 km and a width of 5 km.
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Lake Putterersee near Aigen im Ennstal, Styria, Austria
The hiking trail to the small mountain named Kulm, from where this image is taken, bends into a forrest right after this position, so you cannot get the entire lake. --Uoaei1 (talk) 18:18, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your explanation. I understand the difficulties, but unfortunately I don't think the composition (although it is the best possible) is good enough for FP. That said, it's a nice photo and a beautiful landscape. Regards --ArildV (talk) 14:59, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Bakhchysarai 04-14 img10 Palace Golden Fountain.jpg, featured edit

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The Golden Fountain in Bakhchisaray Palace („Hansaray“), Crimean peninsula
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Chélia mountain
There are an other pics with the invers blurre --Vikoula5 (talk) 18:16, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:KotaKinabalu Sabah CityMosque-08.jpg, featured edit

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The City Mosque of Kota Kinabalu in the malaysian federal state of Sabah
 Comment I am not sure, if we are talking of the same photo, but my nominated photo is a ISO 100 image (see metadata) where the luminance was untouched and the colour NR is at the default 25. --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 20:12, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Cccefalon, sorry I misread. However this claims the Luminance Smoothing is 46 (and the Colour Smoothing 25 default). I was looking wrongly at the "Luminance Noise Reduction Detail" and "Color Noise Reduction Detail" fields. Perhaps you have your import defaults set to apply a high degree of luminance smoothing? -- Colin (talk) 11:46, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, nothing, I worked on that image from scratch. However, I went to the mosque in the early morning and I got this wonderful light that made the sky and the water look in wonderful colours. You can check with the other photos of this series. If necessary to convince you, I can make a screenshot of the image in the Lightroom window. --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 12:05, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well I'm puzzled and just curious how the exif tool could get it wrong -- I trust what you see. Might you have exported the JPG earlier when you had some stronger NR? Are you using virtual copies and looking at a different one? File:KotaKinabalu Sabah CityMosque-07.jpg appears to have "Luminance smoothing" 52. Is that wrong too? Are the other exif settings wrong too (e.g. "Vibrance", "Clarity 2012")? As for the image, possibly the painted exterior walls are making us think it has heavy NR because we are used to stone/brick having more fine texture. There's plenty detail in the shot so I've no problem supporting. -- Colin (talk) 12:47, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No earlier exports and no virtual copies. In total only few things were done to get the photo exported (in this order): Activate lense profile and CA removal. Sharpening +61, Noise reduction +46, Clarity +20, Vibrance +18, Cropping, reducing whites -24. That's it. For the other photo, the noise reduction is indeed +52 and vibrance +20, clarity +22. --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 14:41, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment I don't think so. I added two markers at the outer walls of the mosque and you can see that they are rectilinear. --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 05:30, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, I know that. The distortion is at the dome, and those towers (or whatever they are called) at the top of the mosque. --Graphium 06:31, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The distortion is due to being a wide-angle rectilinear photograph. The effect is more noticeable and disturbing in some subjects than others. See this excellent website for details on the distortions. It's been a problem since at least Leonardo da Vinci's day. The only viable solution is to take the picture from further back (and more vertically central) thus decreasing the angle-of-view. But of course that isn't always practical and the scene changes its depth characteristics with distance too. -- Colin (talk) 12:01, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 24 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 14:09, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Sagres 1970-1.jpg, not featured edit

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SHORT DESCRIPTION
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Centennial Hall in Wrocław, Poland
yes, but are they so disturbing? --Wladyslaw (talk) 18:23, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, but especially the two persons walking in front are good for having an idea of the dimensions of this structure. --Wladyslaw (talk) 13:32, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jebulon: I tried your proposition, to cut of the front grey line. It sounds good because the image would be "open" in front. But the attempt to do so didn`t convince me. The grey line gives the picture a kind of framing, gives an idea of depth of space and appears more harmonic in my eyes than without. --Wladyslaw (talk) 04:18, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks for the try. You are probably right. Anyway, I understand your arguments. Sometimes, an empty foreground is useless, but in this case, due to the overall composition of the photograph, the foreground (which is not "empty" btw: see the lines) is useful here, for the depth impression. Strange result: I agree with you ;).--Jebulon (talk) 08:52, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Barcex, Jebulon and Colin: I'm convinced now and have tried it out without the pedestrians. The impression gets better now. So I have retouched them. --Wladyslaw (talk) 19:19, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Close to support. But there's a stitching error in the leftmost lamp-post near the top. There are three ways I've fixed such issues. Firstly is to use Smartblend rather than the built-in blending tool. Diliff should know how to set that up for PTGui as he uses it too. It is more intelligent about where to place the seams and copes better with parallax errors. Second is to export the warped frames that the blend tool uses and import as layers to Photoshop (Gimp?) - again I only know how to do this in Hugin but Diliff does this with PTGui. You can then uses these to manually adjust the faulty stitch seams and also to clone people out where there is overlap and people have moved. Thirdly is to just patch up the image by moving the top of the lamp post so that it lines up with the rest -- not always easy to do convincingly so this is a last resort. -- Colin (talk) 20:23, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
fixed now --Wladyslaw (talk) 04:23, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I guess this time the distraction was because the top of the man was so conspicuous in matter (strap) and color (turquoise). --Wladyslaw (talk) 04:23, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 10 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 09:08, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Equus quagga burchellii - Etosha, 2014.jpg, featured edit

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"Plains zebra in Etosha National Park, Namibia"
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File:Niagara Falls - ON - Niagarafälle.jpg, not featured edit

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Niagara Falls seen from Skylon Tower, left: Bridal Veil (USA) and on the right side Horseshoe Falls (Canada).
Colin:This picture was take from top of the Skylon Tower (about 150 meters over the niagra falls level), so that this kind of view never can be free of distortion. But I have reprocessed this image. Now the horizon is in line and the buildings are vertical. --Wladyslaw (talk) 21:02, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. This one is overcooked in terms of contrast (like the Clarity slider turned up too far). But it remains very distorted. The buildings on the left may be vertical but they are now very fat. And the buildings on the right are sloping now. I see you use PTGui Pro. I'm not familiar with that. I know Diliff uses it and might be willing to help you with the stitching. -- Colin (talk) 21:21, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'll ask him. Wladyslaw (talk) 04:17, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've reprocessed and restitched it for Wlady and emailed the corrected version to him for consideration and upload. I hadn't noticed your comments on the contrast being too high but I think you're right. In order to match his processing, I did have to bump up the contrast considerably. I would have processed it differently myself but as my aim was merely to correct the stitching, I didn't mess with his processing decisions. Wlady, I can reprocess it with less contrast if you'd like me to combine the corrected stitch with Colin's suggested adjustment to the contrast. Diliff (talk) 11:35, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 1 support, 2 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /Jee 17:16, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sri Krishna Temple, ISKCON, Mayapur.jpg, not featured edit

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Sri Krishna Temple, ISKCON, Mayapur.
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Australian White Ibis (Threskiornis molucca), Perth, Western Australia, Australia
  • He has 300+ EN FPs; almost 9% of all the FPs there (per his own words). Honestly there is not much fun in re-reviewing them all here. (Excellent work, as usual.) Jee 06:13, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • No offense, but these are useless comments: I don't know what happens in ENWP, and I don't care. Is this an attempt to influence voters ? I know that it is not the case, but it could be. Please, stop to reference to ENWP, here we are on "Commons"...--Jebulon (talk) 14:50, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 7 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /Jee 17:07, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Topography of Terror
  •  Info The site of Topography of Terror, an outdoor and indoor history museum in Berlin built on the site of buildings which during the Nazi regime from 1933 to 1945 were the headquarters of the Gestapo and the SS. The composition is carefully chosen to show the different layers in the topography of terror. To the right is the remains of the Berlin Wall and of the basement of the Gestapo headquarter, where many political prisoners were tortured and executed. I had the opportunity to re-take this images during sunny weather, but I decided not to do it. I think the gray cloudy weather (rather than beautiful and aesthetically sunny weather) is suitable for this terrible place. I also believe that it is the same approaches that the architects have chosen, with the low-profile gray museum building. The image also captures different aspects of Berlin's history, in the background are two historic government buildings (Martin-Gropius-Bau and the Preußischer Landtag building). To the left are some postwar buildings and in the background to the right new office building built after reunification.
  • Created, uploaded and nominated by -- Arild Vågen (talk) 17:09, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- ArildV (talk) 17:09, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Lots of EV. Not much wow. Saffron Blaze (talk) 12:17, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment Wow is important for FP, I agree. But is it possible (or even desirable) for this type of object. I have no simple answer, but it's an interesting question.--ArildV (talk) 12:31, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • It has always been my understanding when a subject is important, like this, but the images of it are unlikely to generate wow, then they could be nominated at inididual WPs such as en:FP or de:FP. In those projects EV has primacy. There is also VI here on Commons, where valuable images may be recognised. On a personal note, I have been to this spot myself and took many images. I found the location difficult, as it was very much a challenge to convey its significance visually in one image. My images were certainly no better than yours even though I had the benifit of a partly sunny day. My conclusion was... to really capture this site in a compelling way (i.e with wow) required a set, where each image would provide a part of the whole. That doesn't mean we don't need images like this to provide context. I just think they don't meet the intent of COM:FPC, and this is why I chose not to nominate my images. Saffron Blaze (talk) 13:44, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • weak Oppose good quality but I would want a view more on the remains of the Berlin Wall. How can I say? a biggest perspective, maybe from the same point but with a view more on the right with a less part of the left (less interesting IMO however certainly valuable of course). Christian Ferrer (talk) 11:54, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Garudas in the Wat Phra Kaew
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: of the relevant opposing opinions. Moreover the perspective is distorded and the sky is overexposed. The overall quality is not enough for FP, sorry.--Jebulon (talk) 19:29, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply] Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.

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Common Dandelion (Taraxacum sect. Ruderalia) seedhead

  I withdraw my nomination --Uoaei1 (talk) 06:10, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Info created by, uploaded by, nominated by Pleclown -- Pleclown (talk) 11:54, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support This picture was taken during the final match of the BMW Polo Masters Megève 2014, a Snow polo competition in en:Megève. The horse's tail is clipped, braided and wrapped for safety reasons. The player is sporting a white polo outfit, marked with the BMW logo, BMW being the sponsor of one the team, in addition to being the main sponsor of the event. -- Pleclown (talk) 11:54, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • As long as I focus on the subject, that's a great action shot: great poses of horse and rider, reasonably sharp, position of the subject within the frame is great, maybe a bit too dark though. But unfortunately, the subject doesn't really stand out against the very busy background, the upper part of the horse's head nearly disappears. Maybe opening up the Tamron to F2.8 might have helped a bit? I'm sorry, but I'll have to  Oppose here. --El Grafo (talk) 12:29, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose -- Decent and honest picture, no more. Alvesgaspar (talk) 14:45, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 I withdraw my nomination Pleclown (talk) 09:37, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Shipyard Craft Chacachacare, Margarita Island
✓ Done Alguna vez te dije que eres un fastidio? :P --Wilfredo R. Rodríguez H. (talk) 01:38, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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A central street in Tavira, Portugal.
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Polychromed woodcarved barocque Pieta in the Saint Lawrence church in Feldthurns in South Tyrol
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Interior dome, Holy Sepulchre
It is faint but I see the CA. I will work on it when I get home. The exposure was 9 seconds (an eternity with tour groups on the move).--Godot13 (talk) 21:07, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the CA removed.-Godot13 (talk) 22:35, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

* Oppose this kind of picture needs a perfect centering, this is not the case. I find the colors a bit strange.--Jebulon (talk) 20:12, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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There is a shot of the whole mosque but the crane ruins the photo. --Joydeep Talk 06:31, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And I've nominated the photo because I thought this is the best photo of the subject available on Commons. --Joydeep Talk 06:59, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That is exactly the purpose of the VI project !--Jebulon (talk) 19:22, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you are very much right. But I nominate pictures here for reviews (and not necessarily to become FP) that will help me taking better photos. I am not very good at taking architecture or landscape photos so I want to improve that. Reviews here will help me improve. --Joydeep Talk 09:13, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So now professional or better learned photographers should join this page instead of us. --Joydeep Talk 13:41, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If that was meant as sarcasm it failed. I don't care who provides the images so long as they are good. This isn't good. The composition is unbalanced, the lighting is flat, the colours in the sky are suspect, there is no attempt at creating something akin to symmetry, aspects of the subject are randomly cut off. I am not convinced the dissected bits of a wonderful piece of architecture have much chance of conveying wow. More directly, I am not wow'd by this subject. It is a snap shot of a dome. Saffron Blaze (talk) 14:02, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Now this is the comment (or a reason of oppose) I expect from a contributor like you (and I respect that), not the previous one. --Joydeep Talk 14:14, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think you have summarised exactly what is wrong with this nomination and those of some others. People are nominating images here that make it clear they do not respect the goals and ideals of this project. They use this project to further their own personal agenda, such as improving their photography or collecting awards. These things are welcomed by-products of one's participation here but they should not be the primary reason. Saffron Blaze (talk) 14:48, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Then my 300+ uploads are not valuable to the project. Then I must stop uploading today. Or I should think they are valuable to the project but not for this page. --Joydeep Talk 15:00, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • They may be valuable to the Commons and many other WMF projects, but it doesn't mean they deserve FP status and it doesn't mean you should subject us to reviewing all 300+ because you want to improve your photography. If you honestly believe some of them are FP worthy, and they meet the FPC guidelines, then by all means nominate them. Saffron Blaze (talk) 15:38, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you see my nominations you'll know I never nominate a lot of photos (I have been here for more than 2 years and may be nominated some 30 photos including mine and others). And by no means I wanted to nominate 300+ pictures. Some can be FP and some simply cannot but that does not mean "...about throwing a pot of spaghetti at the wall and hoping a noodle sticks." And about "improving their photography or collecting awards", I think if FPC,QIC,VIC pages were not available Commons would not have that much files uploaded that it has today. --Joydeep Talk 15:49, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Joydeep, Saffron is responding to your comment "But I nominate pictures here for reviews (and not necessarily to become FP)" and not to your track record, and some of the comments Saffron made are general rather than about you. If you didn't nominate this to become FP, why did you support? I don't think anyone here disagrees with you that these awards are motivating and nice to collect (Saffron's talk page is full of them). But a support-nomination at FP means one already believes the image is among the finest on Commons and is making a request to see if one's peers agree. As an aside, there is Commons:Photography critiques but it seems not really have taken off and no longer used. Perhaps there is merit in considering folding that project into this one (in order to take advantage of all the eyes here), where people can explicitly nominate their photographs simply for review but not for FP. Just an idea. -- Colin (talk) 18:17, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I know that Saffron is talking more about in general than this nomination and this is somewhat a by-product of the other discussion which is going on. He is talking about the betterment of this project. At the other discussion he said that we have 75% failure rate at COM:FPC. So pictures which are not FP-worthy are not promoting here. Does that mean we should curb nominations? Is less participation or less nomination help the project in long run? --Joydeep Talk 06:53, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review. --Joydeep Talk 12:23, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Glocknergruppe with Großglockner from south.
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The Macedonian Orthodox church of Saint John at Kaneo, located on the cliff over the Kaneo Beach at the Ohrid Lake nearby the city of Ohrid, Republic of Macedonia, is a pilgrimage iman in country. The age of the cruciform-shaped temple is uncertain but it was probably erected in the middle of the 14th century.
  • @Poco a poco: I noticed the discussion over the new version just a few hours ago, and this brought my attention to the original version. My sincere apologies if this may have been a little unfair to you. Regards --Graphium 15:21, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Graphium: Well, whatever, no problem with that. To your comments: I see no tilt (I take the water see level as reference and it is pretty horizontal), and regarding the "transformation" of partly cloudy to cloudy, I guess that this is mainly due to the fact that in order to draw more attention to the church I cropped the sky and had to get rid of the blue part of it. Poco2 18:43, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Poco a poco: Tilt: I don't see any, but just responding to your "tilt" correction in the second version. Transformation: Did you adjust the exposure? The third version is darker than the previous two, hence my reason. --Graphium 02:34, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Open sarcophagus, in San Juan Bautista Cemetery, Margarita Island.jpg, not featured edit

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Open sarcophagus, in San Juan Bautista Cemetery, Margarita Island
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Rhinechis scalaris
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Klaus Meine - Scorpions MTV Unplugged in Athens
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Riu Picocca, river in SE Sardinia
Nomination denied. Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines because only two active nominations per user are allowed. --DXR (talk) 12:03, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 I withdraw my nomination --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 14:15, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Clouds cap on Tavolara island, Sardinia

 I withdraw my nomination --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 14:15, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Dolostone rocks near Jerzu, Sardinia

 I withdraw my nomination --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 14:15, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Cape ground squirrel from Etosha National Park

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The Reichstag building in Germany


Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: Sorry but our new "unfair" rule says: Licensing - Images licensed with solely "GFDL" or "GFDL and an NC-only license" are not acceptable due the restrictions placed on re-use by these licenses. Otherwise an FP-image for me! --Alchemist-hp (talk) 06:55, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply] Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.

 I withdraw my nomination thanks for the information. --Pine 06:45, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Gemsbock (Oryx gazella) = very often simply feed for lions ;-) in the Etosha National Park, Namibia

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Moon jellyfish

 Support -- Shaon Not eligible to vote --A.Savin 21:34, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Dutch papermill from 1654 on display in the Arnhem open air museum.
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Opal card reader
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: Insufficient image quality, subject not very interesting, random composition. --DXR (talk) 12:01, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply] Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.

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A Wikitravel import from Flickr I found while working on Wikivoyage

 I withdraw my nomination Daniel Case (talk) 20:40, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Capilla del Señor de Celontla, Real del Monte, Hidalgo, México, 2013-10-10, DD 01.JPG edit

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Chapel of the Lord of Celontla, Mineral del Monte, Hidalgo, Mexico. The church was constructed end of the 19th century and is dedicated to Celontla, the saint of the pitmen, main activity of this region in Mexico.
  •  Info Chapel of the Lord of Celontla, Mineral del Monte, Hidalgo, Mexico. The church was constructed end of the 19th century and is dedicated to Celontla, the saint of the pitmen, main activity of this region in Mexico. All by me, Poco2 19:08, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Poco2 19:08, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment This is a nice picture, but it lacks something... The blue house on the right is eye catching. Do you have room for a different crop with more (yes more) of this blue house and less street on the left ? Pleclown (talk) 11:45, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Pleclown, I do have a landscape format view of the church which I didn't uplod, and will not upload because it doesn't really help. The black shadow corner in the bottom right belongs to a truck parked in front of the house. Therefore, no chance to have a better view of that house. Poco2 20:32, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Soft focus on top of the tower and could use a perspective correction. I agree with Pleclown, regarding the composition, which seems a little out of balance. Otherwise nice. --Slaunger (talk) 20:18, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  I withdraw my nomination Ok, thanks for your comments, I take back this nomination Poco2 20:32, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Moonrise over Nationalpark Müritz
  •  Info The image shows the moon rising over a field adjacent to the Müritz National Park, which is one of the least light polluted areas in Germany, and a likely candidate for a future dark sky park. The image also contains the constellations Orion, Taurus, and Gemini, the planet Jupiter, and a faint meteor. Compared to other "moonrise" photos on the commons, it stands out in that it's the only photo with stars. Photo created by Pmisson - uploaded by Ckyba - nominated by Ckyba -- Ckyba (talk) 19:52, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Ckyba (talk) 19:52, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose The noise on the field is a pity. Beautiful sky, stars, Jupiter, capture nonetheless. I'm still waiting for the day I will see this kind of night sky. :/ --Graphium 10:02, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Amazing image. The sharpness and noise problems are forgiveable due to mitigating factors (astrophotography). --King of 18:48, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I just wanted to expand on why it is so difficult to take such a shot. First timewise. You need a perfectly clear night, and the moon can't rise during twilight. You only have about 1-2 minutes to take such shots before the moon is no longer on the horizon, and each shot is a 30 second exposure. You can't use a longer exposure to cut down on noise, or the stars won't appear as points (they already have small trails). And if an airplane happens to fly by, or if car or tractor headlights shine on the background, your chance is burned. Second, spatial. MeckPomm is actually one of the only places in Europe where such a shot is even possible, due to the lack of light pollution. The moon rises in a different place each night, making preparing composition challenging. And the site is (necessarily) ~100 km away from the nearest city. As a final point, this is a subject that used to be as universal as sunrises, but is no longer something that regular people experience: there are 180 monrise photos in the commons, but this is the only one that features stars. Ckyba (talk) 20:19, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak support considering the difficulties, I'm going to "forgive" the noise. I really do love this sky, complete with moon, Jupiter and lots of stars. @Ckyba: I assume Jupiter is the biggest white dot in Gemini? --Graphium 02:26, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment @Ckyba do you mind tagging those constellations and planets in the image description? I'm not used to this kind of starry skies, so I can't find Orion's bow, or the three stars in a row. --Graphium 02:28, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment @Graphium Yes, Jupiter is the big white dot. An annotated version is here. Ckyba (talk) 06:01, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support With this explanation, it is easier to understand the value of this image, and the technical difficulties to make it. Yann (talk) 12:37, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Jee 03:15, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support after some consideration - per Yann. Pixelpeeping really doesn't help here. --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 05:24, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --El Grafo (talk) 11:43, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak support As I see from meta data, some kind of compact camera has been used for this image, which is probably not the best choice. So there are some technical problems (noise, stars are not perfect points due to long exposure time). Nevertheless, the photographer has done a good job, and the image is impressive. --Uoaei1 (talk) 07:51, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose -- Image quality is poor and difficulty should not be, in my opinion, a criterium for promotion. Is it possible to do better with this subject? Yes, I believe so. Alvesgaspar (talk) 14:48, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose per Alvesgaspar. — Julian H.✈ (talk/files) 09:43, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose the quality is far from an FP-image. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 21:35, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I am not sure that the "noise" in the sky is actually noise - it's probably stars. The instructions emphasize the value of an image, and say that "A bad picture of a very difficult subject is a better picture than a good picture of an ordinary subject" and that "Given sufficient “wow factor” and mitigating circumstances, a featured picture is permitted to fall short on technical quality." This is a very unusual photo (1 of 180 in its category i.e. top 1st percentile) of a universal theme. If someone eventually takes a better photo, then certainly replace this with the new one. But based on the difficulty and the rarity of such photos in the commons, it's unlikely to happen anytime soon.Ckyba (talk) 22:55, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose excellent subject for a photo but there is far too much noise. Take this same photo with a better camera and I will likely support. --Pine 06:49, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment You sure that could be done the same picture with another camera? Why there are so few moorises with stars at google images? Example Here you have a time lampse with the same LX7 and a Nikon D3. Except for the fisheye pictures, the panoramas look the same. I have a Nikon D3, but for some images is more usefull my LX7. I have it with me always and luminosity of your goal is f/1.4. It's almost impossible to have brighter lens.----Pmisson (talk) 10:18, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Strong support - About perfect. I'm so glad I can witness these nightskies regularily, as I live in the Müritz region. Cheers, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 11:57, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Per Alvesgaspar and Pine, and welcome to Horst-schlaemma....--Jebulon (talk) 21:10, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Too few images of moonrises with stars. Good composition. Pmisson (talk) 23:57, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Ckyba asked me on my talk page if I'm sure what I'm seeing is noise and not stars. Yes I'm sure. Look at file:NGC_6528_hst_11664_51_R814G555B390_9453_62_R814G606B.png and compare the sky to this photo. The background black looks solid. Here in file:Moonrise_over_Nationalpark_Müritz.jpg the background is not solid anything. Also notice the noise if you look at the ground in this nomination. As I said before, I think this same photo taken with a better camera would have my support. --Pine 06:43, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Thanks for taking a look Pine. I don't think your comparison is the correct one to use in this case. That image has an extraordinarily narrow field of view, and was taken from space itself by the Hubble Space Telescope! A better comparison would be to this image. The noise and star motion are very similar (the sky is darker in the ESO image because the moon is not lighting the sky), and the speckling in the foreground objects is actually worse. But that image was taken using 37 individual frames taken over a total of 30 minutes. It's not possible to do that during a moonrise, because you have at the very most 2 minutes to capture the scene. That image actually includes a moonrise (I didn't see it at first), and if you look at the noise near the moon it is very similar. But since the sky is so dark, the rest of the 37 frames were presumably taken before the moon rose. I would ask Pine, Alvesgaspar, Julian_Herzog, Alchemist-hp, and Jebulon to also please consider this image, which was picture of the year in 2010 and has noise in both the sky and the foreground objects (particularly near the horizon, even more in the foreground). Finally, regarding the camera, it's true it's not a full frame DSLR, but it's not some crummy pocket camera either. It's a recent model high end point and shoot with a f1.4 lens that pmisson specifically bought for the flexibility of taking such astrophotos when serendipity provides the chance for a shot like this.Ckyba (talk) 09:29, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think you make a few good points and I therefore want to specify exactly why I think the quality is not good enough for FP status here. The important thing in this is not noise, it's the signal to noise ratio. I think the best comparison photo among the ones you showed is the one with the laser in it. It has a very significant amount of noise, but that's because none of the noise was removed. It was left in there because our brains are very good at seeing the information behind the noise and all the information is preserved that way. The stars are sharp and the contrast is good. There is also a very intersting foreground object that actually makes this photo interesting, but that's a different story. In the photo that we vote on here, there is noise despite the fact that a lot of noise reduction has happened to the photo, smearing all minor details and higher magnitude stars. This is coupled with motion blur of the stars from a long exposure (presumably), which can't really be avoided, but because your foreground is also not sharp, this means that no single object/edge in the whole photo gives the viewer an impression of sharpness and definition. And that's not at 100%, I'm talking about a normal viewing distance of the full photo on my monitor. In this viewing mode, the laser photo seems totally sharp and the noise is hardly noticeable.
      Now I do admit that it is hard to take such a photo without the problems that I mentioned. But I think that FP is not about the best photo that can be achieved relatively easily of a certain subject, it's about great photos, and in the final result, this one doesn't convince me. At this point, the fact that it is hard to do it better doesn't matter. Nevertheless, I think there are ways that would improve a similar shot significantly apart from using a more expensive camera. Those are: 1) A more wide-angle shot. That way, using the same exposure time, the stars and objects are less blurred from the motion of the earth and wind on the leaves. Everything immediately seems sharper. 2) Better editing. I'm quite certain that with the RAW data of the shot you took, at least the definition of the stars could be improved. The foreground is probably impossible to get to a point where it's not extremely noisy or very blurred. A way to fix this would be to take several shots and stack them together and just use this for the foreground and not for the stars. Stacking is amazing for reducing noise on non-moving objects, and it can be done for parts of an image. 3) Composition. This image, to me, lacks any defined setup of the general order of things on the canvas. The moon is almost but not in the center, the tree is somewhat in the foreground but not really enought that it acts as a counterbalance to the moon. Placing the moon according to the golden ratio, a tree/bush/house/object in the opposite spot with significant presence and using an angle wide enought that the transition of the sky horizontally is more visible would make this a much better shot to me.
      Now I have to say that I haven't done any of this, and similar efforts didn't turn out quite as well as I had hoped, and for everything that I say, someone probably has the opposite opinion. But that's why I opposed this image. I hope you take it as an encouragement and as constructive feedback, I tried to be as objective and helpful as I could. — Julian H.✈ (talk/files) 10:19, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thank you for your detailed explanation Julian H.. I happen to agree with you on many of the points, particularly regarding the composition (it was done that way to keep Orion in the frame). I don't deny that a better photo is possible, I just think that this photo is very valuable, given that it's a universal (but extremely difficult to capture) subject. So I would agree that if someone someday gets a better photo, this one should be de-listed. But the description on the featured picture page seems to indicate that value is more important than technical quality, and the image guidelines say that Given sufficient “wow factor” and mitigating circumstances, a featured picture is permitted to fall short on technical quality. Of course, "value" and "wow" are obviously debatable: my main point is that the picture should be promoted or not based on whether it's valuable and exciting, not based on the amount of noise when blown up. If you look back at the votes for the laser image, it barely scraped by after very similar objections were raised, and then ended up becoming image of the year. FWIW, I don't notice the noise on my retina display at full size, and it also looks great on a printed version I got by chance today (the cover of a formal invitation to an event in MeckPomm, near where the photo was taken). Thanks again for taking the time to write such a detailed comment.Ckyba (talk) 12:03, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Nice idea but too much noise. --P e z i (talk) 19:07, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ckyba the example that I used was one that was linked from the page you linked to me on my talk page. (: For what it's worth, I've looked around for information about the best cameras for night photography and it seems that even the best full frame cameras have a bit of noise unless the images are downsampled, and I think the counterexamples that you gave in your response are good to point out. Would it be possible for you to take the same photograph with multiple shots and then downsample the stitched image? I bet you could get a very good quality image that way. --Pine 06:27, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hi Pine - I was trying to point out that since the sky is full of stars, it's inherently "noisy" no matter what you do. Regarding taking the photo again: as said above, there are very few locations in all of Europe where such images are possible; this site is about a two hour drive from my home in Berlin. (This slide shows roughly where the photo was taken, along with the modeled skyglow of Europe.) To avoid too much moonlight, the phase needs to be near new moon, so there are only a few nights per year for which the moonrise time is late enough that such a shot is possible (summer is out because we're too far North). It has to be perfectly clear (about 1/3 of all days in our region), and if a farmer is working at night or an airplane drives by the shot could be ruined. Multiple shots would be difficult, because the stars move fastest near the ecliptic, but I suppose a talented astrophotographer (not me, I didn't even take the photo) could possibly do something like that. Ckyba (talk) 07:48, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have read the debate here and was conflicted about whether to support or oppose. Some of the arguments for support sounded compelling particularly from a European perspective. However, here in Canada, and many other places of the world, finding a spot to take a shot like this would be little more than walking out the back door of one’s house. Even if in a Canadian city, it isn’t a big deal to drive for a few minutes to access completely black skies filled with so many stars that you can actually see the Milky Way with the naked eye. Then I had to consider the fact that while the combination of the moonrise and the star field had some visual impact I also recognised that this is not an image anyone would ever see. It looks more like a sunrise in some respects. It is a bit like those long-exposure shots of waterfalls, which I shoot myself frequently and have had featured. They are pretty but how much do they deviate from reality? I saw these on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/xclearmindx/8980598548/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/davetoussaint/8445481293/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/fortphoto/7802210432/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/22982057@N03/12201527484/ Which is the finest or is either any good? Still conflicted and remaining neutral on this one. Saffron Blaze (talk) 14:34, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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 I withdraw my nomination Tomer T (talk) 09:55, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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How is this better? The whole point of my image is showing the thing without those harsh shadows that are making photos during the day unpleasant, as obvious in the image shown by you (perhaps my image is a bit warm, admittedly). I'm not claiming that my image should be FP (mainly due to probable lack of wow), but I would like to refer you to the KEB discussion on your proposed alt, on which you voted just "weak pro" and which got declined there. --DXR (talk) 07:38, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
We have here a discusion, and I only asked it with three "???" :-) OK? --Alchemist-hp (talk) 19:47, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry Alchemist, I think I sounded harsher than I wanted to. I would just prefer constructive criticism, saying what features of the other image you like better, that's a bit more helpful for me, okay? --DXR (talk) 08:52, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Mokre (Mokrau), Silesia - lime kiln
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Notre Dame de Paris
  •  Info created, uploaded and nominated by -- P e z i (talk) 23:00, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Fortunately, when I captured this picture there was a stage set up for an event providing an elevated point of view within near distance of the building. This gives a good feeling of the dimensions of this huge cathedral. -- P e z i (talk) 23:00, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose -- Good picture but far from outstanding (what a FP should be). The top of the cathedral is too soft and the crop is too tight for my taste. Alvesgaspar (talk) 14:27, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Question@Alvesgaspar: I agree with you regarding the crop and the softness, but what kind of picture of the western facade of Notre-Dame de Paris could be "outstanding" ? It is as it is...--Jebulon (talk) 19:40, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      •  Comment It is a good question @Jebulon: , and I have been wondering the same thing. I had a look at some of the many other photos of the Western facade on Commons, and this one is one of the very best or perhaps the best at giving an "encyclopedic" clean view of the facade, well justified by its VI status within a daylight scope. One option could be to illustrate the size of it by moving closer, such that the perspective is seen, but personally I think it makes it worse. But although a very valuable illustration of the topic it is not so interesting as depicted (to be frank I find it boring, there, I said it), so I agree with Alvesgaspar on this point. So what can you do? The degrees of freemdom are the wheather, light, and camera position or you can spice it up with another element to it, for improving the "wow". Quasimodo would have been a nice touch, but, naah, nor realistic. I think though that the light could have been better, e.g., evening sun with a black rain shower in the background, or as in this case add some spice in the form of a flock of flying birds. Or taken suspended from a drone to get a more interesting POV, but there may be legal issues.... --Slaunger (talk) 20:20, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Jebulon: (This "ping thing" is very useful!) -- Well, a possibility is that no matter what you do, no featurable photo of this "boring" monument is possible! But you will agree with me that the variables are so many that some outstanding result is possible with the right combination of light, angle, sky ... ~~ Alvesgaspar (talk) 20:22, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        • Amazing coincidence, this edit conflict of two users (Slaunger and I) saying basically the same thing!! -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 20:24, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
          • @Jebulon: , @Alvesgaspar: , I am only pinging you now because I am a physicist trying to see if I can start a chain reaction .--Slaunger (talk) 20:29, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
          • Ping-ping to both of you ! I agree, the light is a bit flat. But as for the point of view, remember it is unique: it was taken from a stage built for celebrating the 850th anniversary of the building, so I'm afraid we will have to wait a bit until.... Some time...--Jebulon (talk) 20:30, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
            • @Jebulon: , it is a good point you have regarding the rather unique camera position, but if you do a Google seacrh for drone views of the Notre Dame, you can get a pretty spectacular view of the Western facade from 100 m height from a drone. Unfortunately, I cannot post a link here as it is being blocked by the spamfilter, but it is www dot 360cities dot net. --Slaunger (talk) 20:43, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry: illegal.--Jebulon (talk) 20:47, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose --Very interesting POV but unfortunately the upper half of the image is too blurred; needs lens correction post-processing. Sting (talk) 00:17, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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City of Zürich, Switzerland
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Wandersmann memorial, Hesse
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Don Quijote de La Mancha, Teresa Carreño Teather
✓ Done Thanks --The Photographer (talk) 16:46, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In Venezuela the show producer's rights for reproduction of the performance in photographs or recordings works in a similar way to most other countries (such as the US or UK), going by the explanation given in Chapter II (Performance Contract) in the Law on Copyright, 1993.[5] The costume and stage design rights are reasonably assumed under the show production rights, it is these that would need validation. A release providing evidence of this via OTRS, or a statement about this performance elsewhere (i.e. an official event website which explained how photography is allowed at the event) would be sufficient. -- (talk) 10:24, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • strong  Support from a photographic point of view. I hope the photographer has permission.--ArildV (talk) 13:09, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • It is probably a good thing to separate a possible issue of copyright verification from the FP vote. Perhaps someone with experience of past situations like this would like to create a separate discussion to link to? There is no doubt this is an excellent photograph. -- (talk) 13:52, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Estoy en este momento tomando fotografías y no tengo computador, escribo rápidamente en español. Estoy escribiendo rápido para aclarar este problema de permisologia. La autora de Esta obra es La usuario Laura, ella es la autora de la coreografía y autora de la obra. Esta usuaria me invito a la obra y es la razon de esta foto, no hay ningún problema con esto y estoy seguro que ella podrá hacer lo mismo que esto. Los participantes han sido informados de estas fotografías y la licencia asi como tambien el Teatro. Voy a seguir tomando fotos así que, por favor, contactar a @Laura Fiorucci: en Wikipedia en espanol, mientras regreso. Un abrazo y gracias a todos. --The Photographer (talk) 02:22, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@ , in your experience, is what has been provided by Wilfreor sufficient for Commons' requirements? Or is OTRS the only way to resolve the doubt? Saffron Blaze (talk) 13:42, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite sufficient. Were I the OTRS volunteer, I would expect an email from the producer or production company (which seems to be Fiorucci if I read this right). Depending on the email, such as whether the source happens to match a website domain or is a freebie account, this might need some background verification, or additional questions to ensure that the copyright holder has understood the free release licence allows commercial reuse, this being the most frequent issue that crops up. The hassle of OTRS could be avoided altogether if an equivalent verifiable statement is made elsewhere, such as on the producer's website or Flickrstream, if the photo appeared in those places. If anyone wants this done quickly, it might be an idea to contact a Spanish speaking OTRS & Commons volunteer, like Jcb, for obvious reasons. -- (talk) 14:23, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Es absolutamente absurdo lo del copyright ¿borraremos todas las imágenes de esta categoría? ¿o quizá las de esta categoría... los automóviles tienen diseñadores ¿pidieron permiso para tomarles fotos? Los aviones tienen diseñadores, todo tiene diseñadores. El vestido de Oscar de la Renta hay que borrarlo!!! hay que borrarlo Creo que se están excediendo. El espectáculo Don Quijote que monté en el Teatro Teresa Carreño fue visto por cerca de 10000 personas. De verdad, chicos, esto se fue de madre. Saludos, con todo mi respeto, a todos. Laura Fiorucci (talk) 21:33, 26 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks @Martin Falbisoner - a fair comment regarding the colour. I've added a little saturation, and adjusted the exposure slightly to make it less washed-out - do you think it looks any better? --Baresi F (talk) 16:13, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
yes, it does look better now. The bird's still not my all-time favorite, but the image is good enough to  Support --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 16:59, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Neutral Very tight crop --Uoaei1 (talk) 07:40, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Aerial view of the main station: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
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The Arslanagić Bridge is a 80 m long and 6 m high Ottoman bridge built originally in 1574 by order of the Grand Vizier Sokollu Mehmed Pasha, and rebuilt in 1972 in the city of Trebinje, Bosnia and Herzegovina. The bridge was an important trading link over the Trebišnjica river between Novi (today Herceg Novi in Montenegro) and Ragusa (today Dubrovnik in Croatia).
Poco, as Saffron makes clear, it is an illusion -- that's why I put "saw" and "errors" in quotes. Sorry if it didn't translate. -- Colin (talk) 07:46, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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hydroelectric power station Laufenburg
ArildV: should be eliminated now, if not leave a not at the image. --Wladyslaw (talk)
 Support High quality and EV, nice light and composition.--ArildV (talk) 06:49, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • I agree. QI often sorts out minor issues that would otherwise being a distraction here. I think it is often in the best interests of the creator and the project that images go through QI first. Almost every image I upload goes through QI whether I nominate it here or not. I credit QI with improving my photography and the success rate of image I submit here. Saffron Blaze (talk) 14:58, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Kale Fortress in Skopje at night
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Well, since today, I am no longer in Paris, therefore I cannot take more images. If it gets declined, it does, no worries. However I wonder why so few people have commented on the alt that has no triangle... --DXR (talk) 20:10, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You left Paris, and we did not met ? What a pity ! --Jebulon (talk) 21:13, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, Jebulon... Somehow time was just flying during the last weeks and before I knew, I was already in the train back! --DXR (talk) 12:10, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Gemsbok in the Etosha National Park
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The Legend of Saint Anthony the Great
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The Pleiades (Messier object 45 or M45) star cluster. A previous nomination of this image for Commons Featured Picture failed when the image we had was a much smaller size. This larger version is featured on 4 languages of Wikipedia. There are annotations on this image which add to its encyclopedic value. M45 is approximately 400 light years from Earth and includes approximately 3,000 stars.
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The Allegory of Painting -or- The Art of Painting, ca 1666
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Cannon diagram

* Oppose Incompréhensible et sans intérêt pour qui ne comprend pas l'anglais. Peut-être valable pour une candidature sur la wikipedia anglophone ? --Jebulon (talk) 20:56, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not only one. Sorry, I'm not sure I apreciate your questioning. My English is not that good, and I feel you are on the way of patronizing with me. Are you a teacher and am I your pupil ? I hope no, and I hope being wrong...--Jebulon (talk) 09:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Si j'avais voulu vous contrarier, il aurait été très clair. Ce qui n'était pas clair, c'est pourquoi vous avez opposé. Je suis d'accord que de nombreuses langues est mieux, mais je ne pense pas que cela devrait être une exigence. Saffron Blaze (talk) 13:43, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi Jebulon : le svg permet de réaliser très facilement des versions traduites dans n'importe quelle langue et c'est là l'un des intérêts de ce format... du moment qu'on connaît les termes, évidemment, mais c'est vrai pour n'importe quel diagramme. Technically nicely made but I'm not able to judge the accuracy of the terms. Valuable for easy translation. Note: opens fine in Inkscape but had display bugs in Firefox. Sting (talk) 00:36, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment --Une version numérotée (c'est peut-être à ça que tu faisais référence) aurait été plus pratique pour la traduction mais àmha pas pour la compréhension lors d'une visualisation de l'image dans laquelle n'apparaîtront pas les noms au vu de la quantité de termes. Sting (talk) 00:42, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      •  Comment Si vous préférez, je pourrais faire la totalité de l'image en français ... Mais alors, aucun des anglophones voudrais soutenir sa candidature! Qu'est-ce qu'un homme? Fichiers SVG sont structurés de telle sorte que n'importe quelle image peut être ré-étiqueté dans n'importe quelle langue. J'ai déjà attaché un modèle pour les informations de fichier qui pointe vers un outil conçu pour le faire pour vous (je ne l'ai jamais utilisé, mais je suppose que cela va fonctionner). Ma question est, est l'image agréable pour vous? Si je pouvais vous rassurer que tous mes termes sont précis et mon placement de toutes les pièces est très précise, seriez-vous alors sa candidature? KDS444 (talk) 11:06, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Alexander Vasenin (talk) 04:13, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Pleclown (talk) 11:45, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Question Ist das ein bestimmter Kanonentyp? Oder einfach eine "prototypische Kanone"? Wenn ja, aus welcher Epoche usw? Bitte deutlich mehr Infos. Danke. --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 15:47, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support I do not know much about cannons and their terminology (especially not in English), so I will just assume the parts have been given their right terms. With that said I think it is a very clear and useful illustration, and I highly appreciate that the svg has been constructed in a manner where the translation to other languages is very simple by using the tool which is linked to from the image page. I do not think it is the responsibility of the creator to find all those specialist terms in other languages, than those he is familiar with. The terms could easily get wrong. Derived versions can be added as cannon experts native in other languages add them in. --Slaunger (talk) 20:37, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I like the design very much nevertheless. My suggestion: numbers or letters instead of words, and a related caption in the file page. No need of a lot of versions, just one version, and everybody can add the caption in his best language (and help in translations). But we need to know more about this cannon. Per Martin Falbinsoner: what kind of cannon is it ? Seems prussian (not french for sure) ? Beginning of the 19th century ? Is it a design of an imagination work ? A prototype, a stereotype ? If it is a real cannon, could we have more informations (standards, size, etc... ), and therefore better categorized. So, mybe the design alone is featurable (it is, IMO), but not the file. Some more work is necessary. --Jebulon (talk) 21:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC)--Jebulon (talk) 21:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This is one of the very reasons that I chose not to use a key here-- there are too many words for a key to be practical. I used to do illustrations with keys in order to make them more convenient for a multilingual audience, and that was fine when there were only five or six things to point out, but this illustration has 30 terms on it. It is in SVG format, which at least implies it can be easily modified for different language contexts (I recently tried to do this with the Commons language tool to make a French version... Trickier than I would have thought, though not impossible, and I have now uploaded that version as well).
Now, with regard to the type of cannon. I have been trying to retrace my steps back to when I first drew it two years ago, with only limited success so far. My intent was to create a generalized European cannon of the 19th century, but I believe that the image I ended up generating is rather close to the 18-pound brass British cannon included on page 35 of this document, as well as to the cannon shown on this web page on the bronze guns of Leutze Park (though neither of these was in my browser history and I must have been looking at something else for reference). Clearly I should not have waited two years to nominate the image, as even I can't seem to remember where or how I began. If anyone disagrees with these comparisons then please say so! I claim no expertise in cannon design or history, and was aiming for a conceptual piece rather than a specific cultural-historic one. Are there ways one can tell it is NOT, say, a Spanish cannon or an Austrian one? Also, this was in my browser history-- does this tell you anything? KDS444 (talk) 22:37, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Saint-Sulpice, Nave, Paris 20140515 1.jpg, featured edit

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SHORT DESCRIPTION
Thanks Diliff. It's certainly no coincidence, I have tried to emulate your process after seeing your great results. You are clearly right that I should expand my EV range (it is quite annoying that the D800 is limited to 1EV bracketing...). --DXR (talk) 14:02, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Are you sure that it's limited to 1EV bracketing?? I know that many other Nikon cameras for many years have been able to do +-5EV bracketing, long before Canon allowed it and for some time I lusted after a Nikon for that very reason. My first 5D Mk i had 3 bracket maximum with +-3EV which was quite limiting, but now I can do up to 7 bracketed exposures with 3EV steps for a total of 18EV (+-9EV) range. Quite incredible really what a difference that makes for interiors, but 5 bracketed exposures is usually more than enough. Diliff (talk) 12:17, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I guess you're right. I did a bit of Googling and it appears that Nikon has taken a backward step with the D800 and it's not possible. There's even a Facebook group dedicated to petitioning Nikon for a firmware update to fix it! :-) Diliff (talk) 12:21, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Benh! Photomatix 5 seems to works really well with ghosts. --DXR (talk) 14:02, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I find that it doesn't do a great job. At least, it spoils the tones of the region that has been corrected for ghosts. It has to use either the overexposed or the underexposed bracketed image(s), and when it does that, it has very limited dynamic range to work with and this area often has a flatter tone. Much better to avoid the ghosts in the first place than to assume you can correct them afterwards. I know, not so easy. :-) Diliff (talk) 12:17, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Not so easy, or most of the time impossible :). I don't find anything is spoiled on that picture. And when I do that (manually, I don't have a Photomatix to play with) I find it also give a pleasant result. It's only a matter of post-overexposing and underexposing the normal shot and clone the areas with people on the associated bracketed shots. In the end, the only spoil you get is more noise, which can be worked around easily without too much damage, especially when one has a 5DmkIII or a D800! - Benh (talk) 19:53, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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A wall of the fort of Castro Marim
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File:Teotihuacán, México, 2013-10-13, DD 15.JPG edit

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Pyramid of the Moon and Avenue of the Dead, UNESCO World Heritage Site of Teotihuacan (Place of the Gods in Nahuatl), a pre-Columbian Mesoamerican city located in the State of Mexico, Mexico. The pyramid was constructed between 200 and 450 AD with a slope in front of the staircase that gives access to the Avenue of Dead, whereas the platform atop the pyramid was used to conduct ceremonies in honor of the Great Goddess of Teotihuacan.

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A female Acanthis flammea in Horsham, UK.
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File:Donner Lake as seen from Donner Pass.jpg, featured edit

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SHORT DESCRIPTION
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Lady Blunt Stradivarius
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Fritillaria meleagris

✓ Done Spin removed.--Famberhorst (talk) 05:16, 31 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Marsh frog
  • Saffron Blaze no, that other image had been nominated for FP and barely failed, which I noted on the new nomination page for this image on en:FPC. If you prefer that one feel free to propose it as an alt. The photographer is the same. --Pine 04:57, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Female Sambar Deer.jpg edit

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A female sambar deer looks on at Tadoba National Park
  •  I withdraw my nomination Thank you everyone for the review. Appreciated.