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Flickr upload bot

File:Seattle - Andy's Diner, 1954.jpg: the image itself seems not to have arrived. I've done this sort of thing hundreds of times, so I'm 99.9% sure I did all the steps correctly. Any idea if there is anything I can do at this point other than reupload? - Jmabel ! talk 22:37, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

The image is there but it was uploaded about 8 minutes after the text was placed on the file information page. Temporary delay? --Stefan4 (talk) 23:12, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Guess I got impatient before that. Usually takes under a minute. - Jmabel ! talk 06:53, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
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How to search for *only* PD, completely free for any use?


Is there any way to search for images by license type? -- in particular, I would like to see only images that are *completely* free, with no attribution, no anything. As in creative commons CC0. PD *might* be OK, but I'd rather something where the rights holder *explicitly* made it fully free. I can't figure out how to do this after 20 minutes of looking. Nor can I find anything which says for certain that it is impossible.

I've seen suggestions to use Mayflower, which is dead. Is there anything newer?

I've read at least seven different help pages that touched on this topic, and none of the answers even addressed it properly, much less ended up being useful.

If it is _not_ possible, it would be nice for someone authoritative to say "Yes, I am completely certain that there is no way to do that." (as opposed to providing guesses.) At least then I would have some resolution ...

Many thanks for any insight that you can provide! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickp99 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 28 May 2012‎ (UTC)

If you are specifically looking for images tagged with the CC-0 declaration (btw, I agree that it may be generally safer than non-universal and sometimes approximative PD tags), then such a specific search is fortunately much easier to do than a search for PD images in general. You can just add something like "cc-zero" to the topic of the search in the standard Commons search box. For example, if you are looking for CC-0 files about elephants, you can search "elephant cc-zero", which returns essentially the results of the ordinary topical search (with its usual forces and weaknesses), filtered to show only the pages containing "cc-zero". -- Asclepias (talk) 19:50, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
If you're just interested in browsing, there's always Category:CC-Zero, Category:Public domain, etc., though they are going to be so full that they aren't going to be practical if you're searching for a particular subject or topic. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 01:35, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

This metadata would be very useful. Vistriai (talk) 06:42, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Khrushchev and Hoxha at Butrint.jpg

I took the following image from this work:

I do not know what its copyright status would be. --Mrdie (talk) 03:02, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

From that source, the copyright status is not immediately clear. You might bring this question to Commons:Village_pump/Copyright, where more people with copyright expertise are likely to weigh in. But do be aware of the precautionary principle: if you don't know the copyright status, you should not upload it. - Jmabel ! talk 14:50, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


Liebes Wikimedia-Team, für einen Personen-Beitrag möchte ich ein Foto-Porträt hoch laden. Die Fotorechte liegen bei einem deutschen Museum. Dieses Museum hat mir die schriftliche Erlaubnis erteilt, allerdings nicht als freie Lizenz, wenn ich das richtig verstanden habe: 1) - "Die Genehmigung gilt ausschliesslich für folgende Verwendungszwecke: Beitrag zu ... in Wikipedia", 2) - "Die Vergabe der Nutzungsrechte ist an den vereinbarten Verwendungszweck gebunden. Jeder erneute oder anderweitige Gebrauch des Materials ist neu genehmigungspflichtig"

Meine Frage: Mit diesen Vertragseinschränkungen darf ich das Foto nicht in Wikimedia Commons hochladen ?

Vielen Dank für Ihre Mühe Joachim Petersen

Lies hierzu mal COM:OTRS/de durch, insbesondere auch die E-Mail-Vorlage. Aber kurz gesagt würde ich auf nein tippen, da Commons die Weiternutzung der Dateien (auch zur Veränderung) verlangt.--Trex2001 (talk) 11:14, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Replace JPEG with PNG not possible?

I am trying to update a JPEG image with a PNG (simple colour correction). However, when I try and replace it with my PNG I get an error stating that the mimetype doesn't match. I understand what that means, but does this mean it is it not possible to replace filetype X with filetype Y? I'd rather not re-save the image as JPEG as the quality's not great to begin with. Or should I create a new upload (seems daft as it is otherwise identical to the original)? Thanks. Ithinkitsnice (talk) 12:37, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

The short answer is no. We can't overwrite different file types. There are many instances where we have both JPG, PNG and sometimes GIF and SVG versions of basically the same image. It is unusual to create a PNG from a JPG unless the image should really have been a PNG all along. It is unusual to store photographs as PNGs and not the best practice to generate diagrams/illustrations etc as JPGs. If the image is a diagram etc, upload the PNG and mark the JPG as {{Superceded}}, if the image is a photograph then I would be suprised if the PNG generated from that would be better quality, but you can always save it as a JPG with a 100% quality setting (makes bigger files though). Does that help? --Tony Wills (talk) 13:21, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

OK I understand the technical limitation, noted. I do understand the peculiarities of the formats well as I work in graphics. The reason I chose PNG was that the image was already crunchy, not particularly large, and repeated compression begins to hurt an image, so thought why not. However, I think this image will be good enough as a JPEG so that's what I'll do. Thanks. Ithinkitsnice (talk) 17:08, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Mikogo-logo-small.jpg


I am Charlotte, employee at BeamYourScreen GmbH. I just noticed that the logo of our company has been added on Wikipedia ( and I tried to send you an email on Wednesday, the 30th of June, to have a license for our logo.

However, I noticed that I chose the wrong licence for our logo. What we want is that our logo is available on Wikipedia, but that nobody has the right to modify it and to use it for commercial use. Can you please help me and tell me if the license CC-BY-SA is the right license to choose for what we want?

If not, can you please tell me which one is appropriate and how to do it (also on French Wikipedia)?

Thanks a lot Regards,


--CharlotteMikogo (talk) 15:09, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Charlotte. I've taken the liberty of deleting the logo, as the terms you mentioned (no derivatives, non-commercial) are incompatible with Commons: all files here must be available for anyone to use, reuse, publish, edit or use commercially. I don't know about French wikipedia, but English wikipedia allows for the upload of such files under a "fair use" policy. For en.wp, see Non-free content, for fr.wp, see fr:Wikipédia:Exceptions au droit d'auteur. Hope this helps. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:17, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Jana Berezko-Marggrander.jpg

Ich habe dieses Foto von der abgebildeten Person geschickt bekommen. Die Fotografin(Anna Kull) hat mir mitgeteilt, dass ich das Bild hier hochladen darf, wenn ich ihren Namen nenne. Es ist bisher glaube ich noch nirgendwo anders im Internet veröffentlicht(keine Funde bei Google). Ist das in Ordnung? Welche Lizenz muss ich angeben? Danke für die Hilfe schonmal. --IsabellaABC (talk) 10:01, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Error uploading a file

I tried several times to upload a file to File:Tibere Fiorilli dit Scaramouche by Habert 1700 - Gallica.jpg, but on my most recent attempt, I got the following error message: "Could not move file mwstore://local-NFS/local-public/9/9a/Tibere_Fiorilli_dit_Scaramouche_by_Habert_1700_-_Gallica.jpg to mwstore://local-NFS/local-public/archive/9/9a/20120602100319!Tibere_Fiorilli_dit_Scaramouche_by_Habert_1700_-_Gallica.jpg." When I click on the "Full resolution" link, I get the error message: "404 error: File not found". Should I try again with a different file name? --Robert.Allen (talk) 10:12, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

I was using this upload form [1] and at first the Firefox browser, then the Safari browser, both on a Mac with OS 10.7. --Robert.Allen (talk) 10:18, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
After trying with a slightly more compressed (smaller) file and a new name, it worked. Now I'm wondering how to delete the bad upload. I suspect there are some intermediate files somewhere where they shouldn't be. Do we need to worry about them? --Robert.Allen (talk) 10:25, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Replace Picture File

How do I replace an existing logo (.jpg) file on my Yuma Panthers (NAL) page? I am a registetred user and have uploaded the file but do not know how to find it or upload it to my team page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Willjoyce13 (talk • contribs) 23:35, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

It looks like File:PANTHERS eSignature Logo.jpg was deleted. Please note that Commons only accepts free content. See Commons:Licensing. LX (talk, contribs) 20:20, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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Please, delete my image "File:Grand piano seen from above - No commercials.jpg"

I am the uploader of the image File:Grand piano seen from above - No commercials.jpg, which is a derivative work of File:Bechstein D280 top view.jpg. When I uploaded my work File:Grand piano seen from above - No commercials.jpg I became aware of that my source (File:Bechstein D280 top view.jpg) probably is uploaded illegally. Will somebody please delete my image File:Grand piano seen from above - No commercials.jpg as soon as possible. There is no pages that use my image so it shouldn't be a problem to delete it. --Hereiamfriends (talk) 15:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I added a speedy delete copyvio tag to your upload. That should remove it faster.--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:46, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Your file has been removed. The DR is still open on the other.
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Which license do I use

Which license do I use for this. Thanks. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 02:03, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

  • I believe you'd have to work out whether the copyright was renewed. More likely someone at Commons:Village pump/Copyright can help you work that out. If it was renewed, then we can't use it until the copyright expires; otherwise it would be {{PD-US-not renewed}}. - Jmabel ! talk 02:35, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:IFMSA-Poland SCOPE Team.jpg

I have problem with the licence. Which should it be? I know the author, she allowed me to upload this file on Wikimedia Commons.

--Mateuszbajkowski (talk) 12:11, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

The copyright holder should send permission to OTRS, see COM:OTRS. The file must be licensed under a specific free licence (just "permission for Wikimedia Commons" isn't enough). According to the file name, the file was uploaded to Facebook user 100001811526726 (, so if this Facebook user is the copyright holder, it is this Facebook user who should send permission to OTRS. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:09, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:IFMSA SCOPE logo Professional.jpg

This is the official logotype of one of the Committees of International Federation of Medical Students' Associations, which is a student organisation. However, I do not know if it meets the {{PD-textlogo}} requirements? I don't think it consists only of letters and simple geometric shapes. What licence should i put here?

--Mateuszbajkowski (talk) 12:19, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

The "O" looks way too complex for {{PD-textlogo}}. You need to obtain permission from the copyright holder, see COM:OTRS. Otherwise, the file will have to be deleted. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:11, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Copyright violation

Will somebody please take a look at this picture (File:Bechstein D280 top view.jpg) and delete it? The picture has been nominated for deletion since June 5, 2012. --Hereiamfriends (talk) 16:00, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Five days is not exactly a long time for a deletion discussion. In fact, it is two days less than the normal minimum. - Jmabel ! talk 16:21, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bechstein D280 top view.jpg was closed by Yann and the file was deleted. LX (talk, contribs) 20:36, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Threshold of originality

Accounts for example to logos which only consist of letters of a common font so those are public domain. However, does this also work for foreign language logos, like japanese as here?--Trex2001 (talk) 04:26, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Language has nothing to do with it; one example we have here is a script created for a video game that was disapproved for copyright registration. The threshold of originality does vary a lot outside the US, and I don't know what it is in Japan.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:26, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Удаление фото

Сегодня загрузил фото в статье "Сватош,Зенон Францевич", имя файла:Barguz3.jpg ‎. Данное фото взял в интернете, вот ссылка на сайт: Энтузиасты заповедного дела . Кроме этого сайта фото фигурирует и на несколько других сайтах.

На фото изображен Зенон Сватош, умерший в 1949 году. Само фото сделано в 1920-1930-х годах прошлого века. То есть по правилам Википедии, если фото сделано до 1942 года, то он является свободным. Сайты, где мелькает это фото, не могут являться авторами и владельцами данного файла. Просьба, исходя из выше сказанного, не удалять фото из статьи. Bgelo777 (talk) 10:47, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Нет такого правила. Если автор известен, фото становится свободным через 70 лет после смерти автора. Если неизвестен, то через 95 лет после создания фотографии.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:21, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Photo was deleted from Commons

I posted my own photo of myself on Commons to put with a Wikipedia entry on me -- and it was deleted by an administrator. I filled out everything that was asked and yet it was still deleted. What did I do wrong? Thank you. This is the entry I was trying to post my photo to: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrkwikiedit (talk • contribs) 05:40, 3 June 2012‎ (UTC)

It looks like you have copied this file from an external website, and you do not have a permission of the author. This is not possible to do here.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:30, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
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Dear Commons,

Please delete this file (all versions) for me: I wanted to upload the one next to it, but I clicked the wrong image. This file is not owned by me so I have no right to contribute it to the Commons.

Thank you. Benbe (talk) 10:10, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: The file was deleted by Sreejithk2000 on 3 June 2012. LX (talk, contribs) 07:57, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


I need some help. I uploaded the picture File:Jenshergt2011.jpg and found it on facebook (Link). For all I know, pictures on facebook haven´t a copyright. Now i don´t know, which licens i should choose. It would be very nice, when I get some answers! Neuwied96 13:30, 3 June 2012 (CEST)

Images on Facebook do have copyright. Unless you have permission from the photographer, the photo needs to be deleted. --Stefan4 (talk) 11:49, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: The file was deleted by Yann on 3 June 2012. LX (talk, contribs) 07:59, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I need some guidance

I am a registered user of Wikimedia Commons and I want to upload the photo shown at and name it as: CorytonRefineryFlares. As stated on that website page, it was photographed by Glyn Baker (the copyright holder) in 2008 under a Creative Commons license as on ... in other words as CC BY-SA 2.0.

Could someone please tell me, step-by-step, how to upload that photo? A number of year ago, I uploaded many files using the "old form". But I am quite confused as to how to upload this photo under the current rules about what licenses are required to upload a file found on a website. Thanks much in advance. Mbeychok (talk) 21:24, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

File:Coryton Flares - - 758986.jpg??
The steps through the upload wizard is of course "This file is not my own work." - provide source, author, select license "The copyright holder published this work with the right Creative Commons license", select "Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5" because 2.0 is not longer offered in the upload wizard, later change it to 2.0 on the file description or let it. Describe with description and categories and upload it. --Martin H. (talk) 21:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
If you're more familiar with the "old form," I believe it's still available at --Philosopher Let us reason together. 22:24, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
I uploaded it successfully with the upload wizard. Thanks for your help, Martin. And thank you also, Philosopher. Mbeychok (talk) 23:20, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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Broken TIFF needs a repair

Hi, I accidentally noticed File:Charles Vanderhoop, Jr., Gay Head Light Assistant Keeper, with visiting island school children.TIFF which is not displaying on the image page due to some sort of file error, however does display when I download the full size version and view it. Can someone have a go at fixing it? Thanks -- (talk) 22:23, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Works for me. Right-click on the broken image and select "view image". If it says that the image can't be shown because it contains errors, reload the image and it should display. Click on "back" and then "reload" again. --Stefan4 (talk) 00:37, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
It worked on my laptop and does on my desktop now I have re-refreshed the page cache (which did not work last time). Thanks for the suggestion. -- (talk) 09:59, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
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How to clear warnings about the source validity of US government owned images.

I uploaded many US Government owned images of the High Flux isotope reactor, several of which I created, others are from archives here at Oak Ridge National Laboratory. I don't know the photographers or artists for many of the images (they are 50 years old), but they are clearly owned by the US Government and are appropriate to the wikipedia page where they reside.

I'm not sure what I have to do to remove the warnings that they will be removed. I don't know what "essential source information" is needed for these. Please point me in the right direction.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdb4321 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 5 June 2012‎ (UTC)

Cite the source from that you know that it is a work created by an employee of the U.S. federal government. --Martin H. (talk) 20:44, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
ORNL staff are not Federal employees; see for their non-commercial license. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 23:26, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
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Question about uploading images


A friend has uploaded some pictures on his blog. I wanted to use his pictures on Wikimedia and I asked him for his permission. He emailed me saying that I'm free to use his pictures and upload them. So while uploading them on Wikimedia, I would essentially be uploading someone else's work with their permission. How should I go about this, should I mention this as my own work in the release rights and give credit to the original photographer?--Aayush18 (talk) 17:15, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Please see Commons:OTRS. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:19, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
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OK to upload this image (claimed public domain)?

Dear WikiCommonsers,
There is an image of a lava fountain on the web HERE. The website appears to be conscientiously constructed, and if you click on the button labeled "Terms of Use", it says that all images are public domain. (NB, although of unclear relevance: The image in question has "USGS" in its name, which would seem to explain how it came to be public domain - i.e., created by a US government employee).

Given this source, is it OK to upload this image to Wikimedia Commons? Many thanks -- Presearch (talk) 23:37, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Yuck, they really have overprocessed that image. I think this page is a better source. Google image search is your friend. --Avenue (talk) 02:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Good call, yes, the image on the other page does look better. And implicitly you seem to be saying that its posting on the USGS website, along with the bits of narrative on that page, is adequate to establish it as public domain. I'll take that (I hope correctly) as an encouragement to go ahead and upload it. Many thanks -- Presearch (talk) 05:35, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Not the mere fact of it being posted there. But we know that Jim Griggs is/was a USGS staff photographer at the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory.[2] As such, his photos from the time he was with USGS are PD-USGS. You may find this USGS publication with lots of images useful. Lupo 09:47, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
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book cover

I was trying to upload the book cover for the article "the rise of nine" by pittacus lore but its against copyright violation to upload it. So what is the right way of uploading it? this is the third book in a series of three and the other two are allowed stay up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbyring96 (talk • contribs) 17:54, 9 June 2012‎ (UTC)

I looks like the others are uploaded to en:wp under fair use. Commons does not allow fair use images. You need to upload it to en:wp and use the same format as the others.--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:01, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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Modify an uploaded SVG-file

How can I modify an uploaded SVG-file (maybe restricted only to a file version which I myself uploaded)?

Can I modify only the current version, or can I also select a certain version?

Is this a feature of the external-editor (Botton "Edit this file using an external application") usage?

Thanks in advance. Achim1999 (talk) 15:29, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Download to your machine, edit it, re-upload. - Jmabel ! talk 15:37, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

No, then the file will not be modified! A new version will be created when I re-upload later! :-/ Achim1999 (talk) 17:02, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

That is how the displayed media are revised : by uploading a new version over the older version(s). But the older versions remain. At most, the older versions can be deleted from the file history, if there is at least some reasonable reason to do so (e.g. copyright violation, etc.). But you cannot remove an old version and put in the same place in the file history a new version falsely disguised as that old version. That would not be logical. However, as the previous reply explained, you can select and use any available older version from the file history and modify it and then upload your new version, either as a new version of the same file (if the new version is to uncontroversially replace the previous version) or as a separate new file (if the intention is to have an alternate image or if there's any doubt). -- Asclepias (talk) 18:19, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
I expected that there is a possiblity to modify a SVG-file like an article! You also dont upload for every modification the whole article as a new version. You upload only differences. And SVG-files are editable text like articles.
Maybe I should question you the other way around: If you set up an article-page as valid SVG-code, is there a possibility to display this not as an (invaild) Wikipedia-page but as a valid SVG-page on wikimedia-commons?

Achim1999 (talk) 18:38, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't believe that is currently possible, though I agree that it may be a useful feature. Does anyone know if this has been considered and/or if it's technically feasible at this point? --Philosopher Let us reason together. 18:40, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
There was bugzilla:5899 (closed as fixed but we still don't have it) and someone came to COM:VP last year and wanted to write an extension to allow autotranslation of SVG, if I recall correctly. -- RE rillke questions? 20:01, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Continued at COM:VP#Editing SVGs' text like wiki articles. --Saibo (Δ) 19:51, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

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SVG edit as wiki page

--> moved to Commons:Village_pump#Maintaining_(and_thus_editing)_SVGs'_text_like_wiki_articles Achim1999 (talk) 17:21, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:DEU Osterath COA.svg editing impossible

Due to a break of the connection to the internet whilst uploading this file. there is no information section to it, an edit conflict is stated. Pls help. --Maxxl2 (talk) 10:45, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Either have the file deleted and reupload, reupload to a new name, or as I solved this once, move the page to a new name and delete the original page and then you can move it back or leave it at the new name. -Nard (Hablemonos)(Let's talk) 12:06, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
This is bugzilla:34228. I can only confirm the problem in this instance. Editing the file description page leads to an edit conflict page, and entering the text in the top text area there does not get you past it as it would with an actual edit conflict. I think you'll need assistance from an admin to delete the file so that you can reupload it from scratch. LX (talk, contribs) 12:13, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, folks - good advices. As it is impossible to edit a delete request, i would be glad if any admin delete the file immediately. --Maxxl2 (talk) 12:21, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
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Is there a way to change my user name

Is there a way to change my user name ? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andydashten (talk • contribs) 12:51, 12 June 2012‎ (UTC)

The page for that is strangely enough called Commons:Changing username. ;-) LX (talk, contribs) 14:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Hannes Beckmann - Duo Konzert Schloss Lautrach.JPG

Ich habe das Foto von dem abgebildeten Künstler Hannes Beckmann selbst erhalten, der mir versichert hat, dass das Foto von der Person bzw. dem Fotografen freigegeben ist. Ich weiß daher nicht, was sonst noch zu tun ist. Bitte um Hilfe!

--yogi (talk) 13:23, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Ich habe {{subst:OP}} auf die Dateiseite eingefügt. Das ist wichtig. Bitte bitte den Fotografen darum eine Freigabe für jedermann an unser OTRS-Team zu senden. Details und Vordrucke sind unter Jmbaels Link zu finden. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 14:57, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
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Moving existing uploads into a category (and finding where they are already)?

Would be grateful for some basic help as trying to grasp the very comprehensive arrangements. I have 11 files uploaded under licence as defined by Wikimedia Commons. 8 of these are appearing in the Gloucestershire category and 3 are not (at least I think that is the case). I would like at least to put the 3 files (wherever they are) into the Gloucestershire category to ensure the collection (of a specific subject) is together. Then I can possibly move them into one of the existing sub-categories perhaps? How do I do this simply? I can find all 11 files against the search of 'Badgeworth buttercup'. Sjeans (talk) 13:45, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your files! Please read Commons:Categories. That should answer all of your questions. Did you already read it?
You can find the files uploaded by you for example there: gallery. All that essential links are mentioned on top of your talk page (you can also reach that page by clicking the "my talk" link on top of every page here on Commons. Did that info help?
A important note: File:Badgeworth sssi.jpg is probably not allowed here. It is a derivative work of the poster (freedom of panorama in the UK does not allow depiction of 2D artworks). Or is the poster public domain or freely licensed somehow? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 14:51, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. I did read about categories but remained a little 'hazy'. I will attempt to do something with your extra information. Will get back to you if I fail. In respect of the interpretation board image, I assumed it was public domain, perhaps erroneously, as it is erected for the information of the general public i.e. guidance signage at a nature reserve. Certainly there are similar photographs of this organisation's boards on other photographs and have been available for some time. Certainly, they show more of the background around the board and this one is certainly not 'de minimis'. I will follow up on this and seek copyright permission if necessary, or go back and take a picture which is panorama which includes the board as do other photographs I've found. Sjeans (talk) 17:16, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
I've reflected some more. I think I would prefer to take this image off while I deal with it. I do have one which does meet the de minimis position which I can use instead. How do I delete this or tag it for deletion - I don't seem to find myself where I can do this. Sorry to take up time. Sjeans (talk) 17:47, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Categories: In short: you can edit the file page of the file which you want to sort into some category. You have to add a link to the desired category on that file page.
Board photo: There may even be photos of exactly these boards in exactly that perspective on Commons - not all files get checked on upload. I have deleted it. It probably will get removed by a bot in the next minutes here: Badgeworth SSSI, Gloucestershire. You could request deletion by placing this or a similar text on the file page: {{speedy|I would rather rethink about the copyright situation of the board - seems not to be okay, blablabla... }} An admin will delete it in about some hours. The board's artwork is certainly not de minimis here - it is the central element of your photo. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 18:19, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm most grateful to you for your speedy action. Thank you for removing it. I now feel more comfortable. Glad I contacted you on another matter and you pointed the potential problem to me.Sjeans (talk) 18:38, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome. A hint on categories: your edit - this category is probably not necessary (and should be removed, if there is no special reason for it) since at least one other category (in that case it is even both other categories) of this file is already included in Category:Gloucestershire. The category system is hierarchically organized (like a tree). But don't be afraid - rather have one category too much than too less. :-) Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 19:48, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
One other hint on categories: Originally, your question was about finding your own images. It's OK to create a non-topical category for your own use, but it should be marked with {{user category}}. A good example of this is Category:Other people's maps by User:Nyttend. - Jmabel ! talk 00:13, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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Autorisation directe -->quelle license

Bonjour J'ai l'autorisation directe de son auteur pour une image (photographie d'un tableau), mais je n'arrive pas à savoir quelle licence mettre pour l'image. Que dois-je faire (je n'ai pas bien compris l'aide, j'ai seulement cru comprendre qu'il faut que l'auteur envoie un message à wikicommons... me trompé-je)? Merci Luc Ab. (talk) 19:31, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Voir COM:OTRS/fr. - Jmabel ! talk 21:27, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Bonjour, C'est l'auteur qui peut décider quelle licence il offre, pas vous ni nous. S'agissant d'une reproduction d'un tableau, assurez-vous que l'auteur du tableau offre une licence libre ou que le tableau est dans le domaine public. -- Asclepias (talk) 21:42, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


Does Special:GlobalUsage only look for file links (e.g. the image itself is displayed), or does it work some other way? I thought that it looked for all sorts of links, but it tells me that File:Washington Street North 811, Cottage Grove HD.jpg is unused on other wikis, even though I'm presently linking it (as [[:File:Washington Street North 811, Cottage Grove HD.jpg]], not as [[File:Washington Street North 811, Cottage Grove HD.jpg]]) in a page in my userspace at en:wp. Nyttend (talk) 21:01, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, GlobalUsage only shows file "transclusions". If you want to avoid "unused-deletions", you can include 1px images in a hidden span. That's not nice but sometimes required. Also, when hotlinking with Media (Media:Example.jpg), this is not recognized but should, IMHO. There were cases where PDFs linked this way were deleted. -- RE rillke questions? 18:13, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Hm? File:Example.jpg is listed as used on this page thanks to your use of the Media namespace above. --Stefan4 (talk) 20:58, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
You are right! It works. So you can simply add a Media-Link to a hidden span (<span style="display:none">[[Media:Example.jpg]]</span>). -- RE rillke questions? 21:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Images from a Patent

Can you upload pictures that are contained in patents? I want to use the pictures from a 1954 US patent Poonyk (talk) 07:38, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

It depends. For US patents, see {{PD-US-patent}}. LX (talk, contribs) 12:13, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

What not thumb version of this file

What not thumb version of this file? File:Second-level division map of Russia.png --Kaiyr (talk) 18:19, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Please see Commons:FAQ#What resolution should the images I upload be?. -- Asclepias (talk) 18:28, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Institution Of Engineers India Logo.jpg


I dont know this image ( is copyrighted or not. Can i upload or not. But it is the logo of Institution of Engineers India. So i thought it can be uploaded in the article I have given link of official website of Institution of Engineers India ( this file can be uploaded in article

Thank You

--Amiewiki (talk) 09:21, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Generally, it's not a good idea to do something if you're not sure that it's legal. As far as I can tell, the only chance you have of this not being protected by copyright is if it's old enough, but you haven't indicated a date of initial publication. If you cannot show that the file is in the public domain in India and the United States, or that it is published under a free license by the copyright holder (unlikely), the file will be deleted from Commons. LX (talk, contribs) 11:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


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Copyright help regarding File:Aad de Roode.gif

This 1945 picture is scanned from a book written by Aad de Roode. The publishing company points to author or heirs. Photographer unknown. Author passed away, only living daughter J.Mindreau-de Roode, also with an entry on Wikipedia, allows the picture being added to her father's biography on Wikipedia. I've got an e-mail with her permission. I have no clue how to get this through the system. Please advise me. Felix dubois (talk) 16:39, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

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Copyright help regarding File:Institution Of Engineers India Logo.jpg

Owner of the image at his web site says about copyright in the following link

Can I upload the image to the following article (About the owner itself)

Thanks You --Amiewiki (talk) 09:46, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Commons only accepts content that anyone can use for any purpose. The copyright statement you linked to describes pretty much the exact opposite of that, so no, you should not have uploaded it to Commons. See my previous reply as well. LX (talk, contribs) 11:51, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Mr LX, I Agree with You and Can you please delete the file? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amiewiki (talk • contribs) 17:02, 14 June 2012‎ (UTC)

I don't have the ability to do so, but I've tagged it as {{copyvio}}, so an administrator should delete it soon. LX (talk, contribs) 17:30, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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Very slow upload

File upload has been extremely slow for a couple of days. The progress bar stops moving and the counter for time remaining shows 1, 2 or 7 hours. regards Erik den yngre (talk) 11:10, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

I have tried the upload wizard again, but nothing happens. The "time remaining" just keeps on counting hours and minutes. Erik den yngre (talk) 13:09, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Hei Erik! Most of us who read and help out at this page have no ability to affect the operation of the Upload Wizard. Try the "Leave feedback" link at the top of the Upload Wizard page. If you write a comment using that, information about which browser you use and other information that can help identify the cause of the problem will be included. In the meantime, have you tried using the old upload form, Commons:Upload? It tends to be a lot more reliable. LX (talk, contribs) 13:21, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Great, thanks. Erik den yngre (talk) 13:44, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Have copied the additional info to your section Commons:Upload Wizard feedback#Upload slow/not working. --Saibo (Δ) 14:40, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Ascorbic acid 3d molecule.gif

Hi, I have a few questions.

My 3D image, Ascorbic acid 3d molecule.gif , I drew on my computer, but I got the image of the structure from Wikipedia. So how would you like me to proceed. Is it mine or just an image I got from online. --Kaldaf (talk) 19:13, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Kaldaf, I Have wikified your comment slightly and split it to three sections (two following) for more clarity.
Could you please mention the link to the image (the file name) of the structure which you used as basis? That should also have been mentioned in the "source" field during the upload. What is "Medicinal Natural Products 3rd"? Is that the software you used to create this animation? I guess it is some kind of animation software for molecules? What is created (in a creative/artistic sense) by you? Do you just need to input the molecule structure in some kind of chemical formula? Just reply below (remove the "resolved" tag). Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:48, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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I want to delete less accurate images that I posted

The First is I want to delete less accurate images that I posted. I can't seem to find where exactly I am suppose to write the command. --Kaldaf (talk) 19:13, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

You can put a so called "uploader requested deletion" just on the file page which should be deleted. Use the edit button on the file page and add this on top: {{speedy|That is less accurate than [[:File:blablabla.png]]. I am the uploader.}} An admin will care for the deletion in the next few hours. But be sure that you either just uploaded it or that it is really and clearly useless for everybody. Otherwise a regular deletion request may be more suitable since it offers the possibility for comments by other users. Just use the "nominate for deletion" link in the toolbox on the left side on the file page which should be deleted. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:48, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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Why is File:Plant Ascorbic Acid Pathway.png being disputed

Last I do not no why “File:Plant Ascorbic Acid Pathway.png” is being disputed. I took the pathway from the book Medicinal Natural Products and then drew it on my computer. I uploaded that with its authors name. What other information would you like me to upload. I will provide the information willingly I just do not know what else to put? Thank you and sorry for the inconvenience. --Kaldaf (talk) 19:13, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

The file is disputed since the information about copyrights (licensing) is missing. Every file here on Commons must indicate why the file can be used by everybody - a "license tag". Please see COM:L (especially for Internet images: here). The information which you provided on the file page during upload is very good, though!
The question is: does the book author have any copyright on the drawing which you used as basis? And: are those copyrights still relevant after you had re-drawn it? I guess those molecule drawings are that much standardized that there is no creativity (or anything copyright eligible) involved - but I am not that sure. We have the "license tag" {{PD-chem}} for the case of such simple chemical formulas which can be added on the file page in that case. It is nice to mention the original author voluntary then. In case the original author has a copyright valid for your drawing we could only keep the file here if we had the original author's permission.
Please describe a bit (not much) more; include the country of the book's publishing and it's author (that may be relevant). I think it is best then to move this section to our expert's board COM:VPC then. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 23:05, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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Image tool

There is a tool that will help you find duplicate images on the internet. I can't recall what it is. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 22:06, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean by "duplicate images"? Do you mean searching for similar/same images for copyright checking of new files? Look in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets for google image search and tineye. Other duplicate tools were here: Commons:Tools#Find_Wikipedia.2FCommons_dupes. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:53, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Wasn't what I seen before but that google gadget did the trick nicely! Regards, SunCreator (talk) 23:21, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Photo of Steven Soter.jpg

Picture of Steven Soter

--Zeitgeistpage (talk) 09:35, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

What exactly did you want help with? Is there any reason to assume that this photo is in the public domain or published by the copyright holder under a free license? LX (talk, contribs) 11:03, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
quote from website:
All text, images, and software code on this website are copyright property of the American Museum of Natural History and its programmers unless otherwise noted. They may be used for the personal education of website visitors. They may not be placed in the public domain. Any commercial reproduction, redistribution, publication, or other use by electronic means or otherwise is prohibited unless pursuant to a written license signed by the Museum.
so this file wont last until permission is granted via COM:OTRS--Trex2001 (talk) 11:10, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
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License issue + Posting on a Wiki

I am trying to upload a picture that I have taken but I have to provide a license. I don't know anything about licenses and I have not used this picture anywhere on the web; I simply took the picture and stored it on my phone! I would like to upload it on the 'Amman' Wikipedia article, how can I do so?

Thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MQ1993 (talk • contribs) 13:43, 12 June 2012‎ (UTC)

Have a look at Commons:Choosing a license. LX (talk, contribs) 14:55, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Also please read the intro of COM:L. --Saibo (Δ) 20:18, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Suta suta distribution.png

I would like to delet this one and upload a new one but I dont know how to delete it and it wont let me upload my new file.

--0407shelly (talk) 23:36, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

  • To request deletion of a file you recently uploaded, use the edit button on the file page and add this on top: {{speedy|I am the uploader. Please delete this because... (etc.)}} An admin will take care of the deletion within a few hours.
  • To update to a better version of the image, click on "Upload a new version of this file" on the file page.
  • If you are asking something else, you'll need to be clearer. - Jmabel ! talk 00:13, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Regarding the second option: 0407shelly registered here on 14 June 2012 - so the "upload a new version" link on the file page will first be available on 19 June 2012 (exactly: 4 days later). At least I thought so - I am a bit confused since 0407shelly already uploaded a new file version.
Anyway, I have deleted the file since you have uploaded a corrected version at File:Suta suta-Curl Snake Distribution map.png.jpg. Please do not use the "jpg" format for anything else except photos. It degrades quality and cannot preserve the transparent background of the original map.
Please could you license your map version like the original file (see here? Currently you have only selected GFDL which is quite restrictive. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 12:40, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
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How to I provide licence details when I replace an old photo of mine

Hi. I've just replaced 2 old photos of mine on Commons with more recent pictures. In red letters the page says that the new photo will be deleted unless licence details are provided. But I can't work out how to enter these details on that page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andydashten (talk • contribs) 2012-06-15T12:19:16‎ (UTC)

Hi Andy, please mention file names and sign your comments in future. Is your question about File:Salmon Pool.jpg and File:Monks Brook North of Fleming Arms.jpg? I cannot see deletion warnings there. However, you should not upload completely different photos under the same name. I have left you some more explanation on your talk page on that issue. --Saibo (Δ) 12:51, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Carl Knauf, Hafflandschaft bei Purwin, ohne Jahr, 69x62 cm.jpg

Ich habe diese Datei von meiner Webseite genommen Ich habe selbst das Foto von diesem Gemälde gemacht, das in meiner privaten Bilder-Sammlung ist. Ich habe auch diese Bilder in meinem Buch illustriert ( möchte auch meine anderen Bilder im Artikel auf Ihre Webseite hochladen. Muss ich das immer beweisen, dass ich der Inhaber von diesen Bildern bin? Vielen Dank im voraus für Ihre Arbeit und Hilfe! --Herr Dr. Schimpke (talk) 14:53, 15 June 2012 (UTC) Herr Dr. Bernd Schimpke

  • Painter died 1944; I believe that means the work is still under copyright, so unless you have appropriate permission this should probably be deleted. - Jmabel ! talk 15:01, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Hallo Bernd, danke für deine Mitarbeit! Wenn ich die Quellenangabe richtig deute, dann hast du ein Buch herausgegebene, welches das Gemälde enthält. Damit wir das Bild hier behalten können, brauchen wir eine Freigabe durch den/die Urheberrechtsinhaber für jedermann. Das sind bis 2014 noch die Erben des Künstlers, sofern die Urheberrechte (einfach ausgedrückt) nicht verkauft wurden - erst 2015 ist das Gemälde gemeinfrei. Wenn noch etwas unklar ist, dann schreibe bitte einfach nachfolgend.
    So, nun bin ich fertig meinen Text schreiben, und jetzt erst fällt mir auf, dass ja hier oben noch versteckter Text steht. Ich habe ihn mal sichtbar gemacht.
    In welchem Ausmaß besitzt du denn Veröffentlichungs-- und Verwertungsrechte an diesem Gemälde? Wichtig ist: wenn du von den Erben nur Veröffentlichungsrechte für dich selbst hast, dann reicht das nicht. Wir können nur Bilder aktzeptieren, die jedermann verwenden darf. Kannst du uns einen anderen Dateinamen nennen, wo das "Problem" bereits gelöst ist? Ich hoffe, Jmabel und ich konnten dir weiterhelfen? Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 19:14, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Roses thea - Tito Chelazzi.jpg

The work dates from 1880. Tito Chelazzi died in 1892 ( public domain,I believe). Where and how do I add " Public domain" as a Tag? --Siegfriedplus (talk) 18:25, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

The photo shows a 3D frame. Did the person who took the photo of this frame also die in 1892? --Stefan4 (talk) 18:27, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Stefan, as the source is "My private collection" I guess the photographer is the uploader who did not die in 1892. ;-)
Siegfriedplus, who shot the photo? The work itself is in the public domain, correct ({{PD-old-auto|1892}} can be added – and I did so now). We have to care for the photographer's copyrights too since there is a three dimensional object depicted (the frame). The photographer can choose any license he likes and that is accepted on Commons. Choosing to put this photo into the "public domain" too would be kind. Just reply below replacing the "resolved" line. --Saibo (Δ) 18:57, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
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Thumbnails for File:Geoids sm.jpg are not properly linked after I reset the image to the first (original) version. I unsuccessfully tried all suggestions on Help:Purge including the talk page (generating non-standard sizes worked but is no solution for a file used in several wikipedias). After my most recent experiment (resetting again to the first version), the table of the file history shows a proper thumbnail for the now previous version while the wrong thumbnail moved up one row. Therefore, I think that the proper thumbnails do exist but are not linked to the actual version. --Rainald62 (talk) 18:51, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

I do not really know what you mean by "not properly linked"? But I purged the file page which corrected the dimensions of the most recent thumbnail in the file versions history table. Did that solve the problem? If the thumbnails in the Wikipedia articles display wrong you need to purge those article pages (I tested at ast:Xeoide). Or just wait some hours, days, ... Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 19:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
I waited only one day and only after the first revert :-(
"not properly linked" - both thumbnails correct and previous were shown in parallel in the history.
Thank you. --Rainald62 (talk) 13:55, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Okay. Our MediaWiki servers suck since some months - not your fault. Just for information: I had used this purge URL: Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 14:10, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Locatie Luyseycke.jpg

I edited this photo, which I printscreened from Google Earth. I am not sure if Google Earth allows usage of any photos taken from their application or edited by people. Therefore I need help in determining wether it is allowed to use this file. Torval (talk) 19:07, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Google's terms are strictly non-free. See I've marked the file as a copyright violation. LX (talk, contribs) 19:27, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
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Okay, noted. I will remove the file from the article then. Torval (talk) 19:45, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Photo usage rights

Hi. I do a substantial amount of header/banner design work for clients and normally I purchase my photos from a stock photo company. However I was wondering about the use of photos from Wikemedia commons and was hoping that you could give me some clarification about proper usage of photos. For example I came across this photo ( that would be great in a header design for one of my clients but I am unclear about the legal use of the file. Being only the graphic designer, how does one give attribution if I use a file in a header design? Is attribution necessary in all cases?

Thanks, Dave

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Datint (talk • contribs) 19:21, 15 June 2012‎ (UTC)

Attribution is required for everything except content in the public domain. In most cases, a reference to the licensing terms is also required. See Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia and the specific licensing terms (e.g. linked from each particular file description page. LX (talk, contribs) 19:37, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
I like to emphasize that: each file's licensing terms are different (we allow many different licenses here). You need to have a look on each file's page - the licensing should be detailled there. Anyway: the help page LX linked to should help you. Please understand that we are just volunteers and it is only your (or your client's) responsiblity to comply with copyrights. --Saibo (Δ) 20:11, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
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If you want, you also have the option of contacting the author directly if he is currently active on the site (in the case of your example linked above, this user) and agree with him on arrangements about how to use the file. -- Asclepias (talk) 22:48, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

File:Arecibo message.svg

The mouse over notes don't show up on the en:wp article. Is there a way to make them work? They also don't work on the en:wp mirror file page.--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:01, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Help:Gadget-ImageAnnotator#Frequently_asked_questions 3rd question. That is the test run discussion in dewp: de:Wikipedia:Verbesserungsvorschläge/Archiv/2011/März#Commons-Annotations. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 20:16, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:TS Queen Mary.2007.JPG

I have added this image of the ship and It is about to be deleted. I have taken the image myself and I wish it to be kept on here. But copyright issues means it will be deleted. I have several more images like this I need help can you look into it for me please.

--Ryan kirk (talk) 15:21, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

  • You need to provide a license, which indicates what rights you are granting (e.g. {{cc-by-sa-3.0}}, {{PD-self}}). - Jmabel ! talk 16:52, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Image showing up in reverse color

I uploaded a file, File:Nokia Lumia 900 smartphone.jpg, from Flickr. While it looks fine on my computer, when I uploaded it, it turned reverse color. I mostly work on the English Wikipedia, and I don't know much about graphics. Could someone help me correct the problem? David1217 (talk) 17:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I can't help with the graphics, but there's another problem: this image on flickr is identified "courtesy of Nokia", and it is on the Nokia website [3] without indication that it is free, so the flickr account probably can't offer it under a CC license. -- Asclepias (talk) 19:19, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
I am not sure how it should look like or looks like on your machine, but Help:JPEG (section color model and color profile) are often responsible for these problems. -- RE rillke questions? 20:21, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Yadana Kon Htan Inscription- back, rubbing of stone.jpg

I have just uploaded two photos sent to me by the photographer Ma Thanegi who has sent the following emails giving permission for me to upload them here. I didn't know how best to indicate that I had permission from her in the Upload Wizard, so I will copy them below and would be grateful if you would let me know if they are now all O.K.

[deleted mail - privacy / copyright reasons]

--John E. Hill (talk) 05:31, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:'Myanmar Pyay' low res.jpg:

I have just uploaded two photos sent to me by the photographer Ma Thanegi who has sent the following emails giving permission for me to upload them here. I didn't know how best to indicate that I had permission from her in the Upload Wizard, so I will copy them below and would be grateful if you would let me know if they are now all O.K.

[deleted mail - privacy / copyright reasons]

Also the image has not reproduced properly on the Wikipedia page "Names of Burma" and I can't discover what is wrong with the image which looks fine on its home page in Wikimedia. Could you please help. Many thanks. --John E. Hill (talk) 05:36, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi John, I have deleted the full mail contents for privacy / copyright and spam protection reasons. Please do not post mail contents or texts by other people in general in our wikis.
Regarding the display issue of the second image: it had the "Color Transform: YCCK" - only standard RGB is supported without display problems. I have converted the file with GIMP. It should work now.
Regarding copyrights: Please read the help on COM:OTRS. It is described there to which email address you should forward the mails. In future it may be useful to use the Declaration of consent for all enquiries instead of a own text to make everything clear. I have put {{subst:OP}} on both file pages indicating that a mail will be sent. Hope that helps. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 12:20, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
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No participation

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Greater Bangladesh.PNG has failed to generate participation. The image (an informative map) has no source, background or credibility. It also has no potential use apart from spreading misinformation and even hate. No one outside of Wikimedia projects (namely Wikipedia) has drawn a similar map or clearly indicated its scope, or even used it. Its existence serves only one purpose - using Wikipedia/Commons as a soap box. Not very acceptable. But, to decide that we need more participation. Aditya (talk) 04:07, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

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Public Domain photo from photographer

A photographer took a photo of me that I would like to make public domain in wikimedia commons. As you can see of his mail below, he says I can do whatever I want with the photos (but obviously, he does not want to be bothered to fill out any forms).

Can I upload it under "Entirely my own work".

The end goal is to make it possible to include it under:

Thanks, and best regards, Mikkel Thorup

Mail from photographer: ====================

DAVID COVENTRY May 9 (5 days ago)

to me Hi Mikkel, Sure you can use the pictures how you like, me writing this email is enough of a release. Thanks

David Coventry

— Preceding unsigned comment added by MThorup (talk • contribs) 18:15, 15 May 2012‎ (UTC)

It's not your work, but the photographer's work. A release like the above would typically not be sufficient for Commons. We need to make sure that the photographer not only allows you to use the photo as you like, but that he allows anyone to do so, and he needs to make it clear that he understands that he cannot change his mind later. Please use the format shown at Commons:Email templates. LX (talk, contribs) 20:27, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Regina Alcover.jpg

The owner of the picture - the peruvian actres Regina Alcover- has authorised me by email to use her picture from her official Facebook for the article I am written about her for Wikipedia. I do not how to state this at the copywrite section in Commons in order to avoid the erase of this picture. I kindly request your support.

--Alfonso ps (talk) 20:47, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Commons only accepts content that is in the public domain or published under a license that allows anyone to use it for any purpose. Permissions that only cover use in Wikipedia are not sufficient; {{wikipediaonly}} is a speedy deletion tag. The copyright holder (which is typically the photographer, rather than someone appearing in a photo) would have to release the photo into the public domain or approve publication under a free license in order for us to keep it. See Commons:Email templates for how to obtain an appropriate permission and Commons:OTRS for information on how to archive the permission. LX (talk, contribs) 15:40, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
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How do I search for & download videos?

There doesn't seem to be a way to search for just videos. When I do find a video, there doesn't seem to be a way to download it? It only looks like i can download images. How do I make this site work? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macousticboy (talk • contribs) 09:34, 4 June 2012‎ (UTC)

As far as I know, there's currently no straightforward way to search for videos only, but if you add intitle:".ogv" to your search, you should be in business. You can also browse the video categories starting at Category:Videos. To download a video, right-click on the filename link just below the preview (on the same line as the codec information) and select "Save link as" or whatever your browser calls it. If you need help on playing videos, see Commons:Video#Playing videos. LX (talk, contribs) 16:03, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
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realeasing rights

I want to ask a question!. In the upload wizard in this site wikimedia commons, it says if you upload your picture someone could use and sale it! how it's possible without even permission. commons for share alike this is what i know. could you reply me please!--Neogeolegend (talk) 12:27, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

If you upload a file, you give permission, choosing a license. Dependent on you home-country's copyright law releasing all rights is possible or not. -- RE rillke questions? 13:15, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
The website Wikimedia Commons is made for people who do give the permission to reuse their pictures by offering a free licence when they upload them. Please see the page Commons:Project scope for more information about the objective of this website. If you do not want to give the permission for reusing your photos, that is okay of course, it's your choice, but then this website is not the place you are looking for. You should use another type of website, like for example flickr, etc., which can host pictures that are not freely licensed. -- Asclepias (talk) 19:35, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Grace Cover.jpg

This image is of a cover of an audio recording, and the copyright for it is most likely owned by either the publisher of the work or the artist(s) which produced the recording or cover artwork in question. It is believed that the use of low-resolution images of such covers solely to illustrate the audio recording in question, on the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation, qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Any other uses of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement. See Wikipedia:Non-free content for more information. To the uploader: please add a detailed fair use rationale for each use, as described on Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline, as well as the source of the work and copyright information. For an example fair use rationale, see here.--HeidecamperSg (talk) 17:23, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, this file is a copyright violation. Deleted. Yann (talk) 17:32, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
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Flickr2Commons upload bug

Way to find number of images uploaded?

There used to be a way to find out the number of images that one has uploaded to Commons - I believe it was accessed by going to "My contributions," and then clicking "Edit Count." However, the "Edit count" page seems to have changed, and no longer shows the number of images I've uploaded. Does anyone know how to find out this info? Thanks. Delaywaves • talk 02:16, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

The old edit counter stopped working (see!vvv/yaec.php) and was replaced by TParis's editcounter in this edit. Unfortunately, that edit counter doesn't show the number of files uploaded. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 02:24, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Huh. So is there no longer any way to determine the number of images someone has uploaded? - Jmabel ! talk 15:26, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
You could always go to Special:MyUploads and count them. Or there may be another tool out there that I'm unaware of. But you won't get a straight count through Special:Contributions any more. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 22:24, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
BTW - if you do find such a tool, or if the Yet Another Edit Counter ever comes back to life, it can always be added to MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 22:28, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Zmienianie licencji pliku

Proszę o pomoc ! Wysłałem i nie wiem jak zmienić tą licencję, tagi i źródła !!! Pomocy ! Ty221 (talk) 18:23, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm guessing this refers to File:Labrador biały.jpg. The statement at the source contains a subtle self-contradiction. It states: "This image is public domain. You may use this picture for any purpose, including commercial. If you do use it, please consider linking back to us. If you are going to redistribute this image online, a hyperlink to this particular page is mandatory." We have no general problem with licenses that require a link back for online uses, but if the photo is really in the public domain, such requirements are technically unenforceable. (And since there's no requirement for offline users to preserve notices about linkback requirement, whether the linkback requirement applies to someone scanning the photo from an offline publication – and how they're supposed to know that – is anyone's guess. This is a prime example of why making up your own custom license terms is a bad idea.) For what should be obvious reasons, {{PD-author}} does not provide any function for specifying any mandatory requirements. {{Copyrighted free use provided that|1=a hyperlink to is provided if redistributed online}} seems to better express the actual intentions. LX (talk, contribs) 20:46, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Audio file insertion

I've personally recorded a crowd of people (hundreds) singing a spiritual mantra in a public area (in India). Is it possible to insert it in commons? Thank you--Cornelius383 (talk) 08:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Probably not. Making a recording of a performance without permission of the performers is illegal except for personal use or fair use. This is called performer rights, and they are regulated in Chapter VIII, sections 38 and 39 of the Indian Copyright Act (1957). LX (talk, contribs) 20:32, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. It's more complicated of what I thought. Another question: if I record a group of friends of mine (with their permission) and I want to insert the audio file on commons how can I do? I have to quote all their names (declaring that they agree to be recordered from me on a specific date and so on) or there is a better method?--Cornelius383 (talk) 06:07, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
They would need to agree on a specific license. I would recommend documenting this in the form shown at Commons:Email templates for each of them and e-mail the permissions to Commons:OTRS. LX (talk, contribs) 07:53, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
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User's own work?

The Mumdo (illusionist) article was deleted under copyright infringement.[4] Given that the commons user Domdom18 thinks screen shots and copies of news articles are his own work, seems unlikely that any of the imges meet the listed license. Please look over the image licneses. Thanks. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 09:53, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

All gone. --Saibo (Δ) 22:38, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Dead Sea Scroll Before Being Opened.JPG

How would you all do PD copyrights for [[5]] since it was published in Jerusalem, British Mandate Palestine, a country no longer in existance? Did I not do this properly. TYVM.

--Eagletennis (talk) 15:26, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, the license is bogus, there is no source, and no author for a start... Yann (talk) 11:46, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean the license is bogus? The text that the image is in falls in the public domain as listed by Also, for some reason when uploading images I cannot get the wikitext to stick, so have to select the bottom option. Then when I go to change the information, it doesn't stick. Very frustrating.

"Information |description={{en|1=One of the Dead Sea Scrolls before being unraveled. |date=1959 |source= |author=Habermann, Abraham Meir (1901- ) |permission= |other_versions= |other_fields= "

TYVM. --Eagletennis (talk) 13:17, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

I have fixed the syntax - now the text displays correctly.
I do not know the copyright status for that country (you can have a look in the long list at COM:L). The "possibly" copyrights statement by is not enough for us. We have to know ourselves why it is public domain. If you do not know why you could ask our experts at COM:VPC if no one here knows in this special case. In principle you should not have uploaded it. --Saibo (Δ) 20:26, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Deletion request opened for copyright discussion about it - please contribute there. --Saibo (Δ) 22:42, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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Which licence ?

I found some photos on internet that i posted on commons : File:Alba11.JPG ; File:Alba2.JPG ; File:Chateaualba1.JPG I found it :, ans the autor of photos allows to take his photos.

"Les photos téléchargées sur le site sont libres de droit dans la mesure où c'est moi qui les ai prises. La seule chose que je demande c'est que vous mettiez un lien vers ce site si vous les utilisez pour le votre."

The photos uploaded to the site are free insofar as it is I who took them. The only thing I ask is that you put a link to this site if you use them for your.

But I don't know which licence choose, and how to do it, I don't undrstand anything to the copyrights licence, it's so unclear.. Can you help me? --0ups (talk) 20:29, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

For Commons to host the files, the author needs to agree to license the photos under terms that allow anyone to use them for any purpose, including commercial purposes, in modified or unmodified form. If the author agrees to that, use the format shown at Commons:Email templates and send it in according to the instructions at Commons:OTRS. LX (talk, contribs) 21:00, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Hut-man's Book.jpg

I have a problem finding a license template for File:Hut-man's Book.jpg. I would appreciate help in doing so. This image is over sixty years old and it cannot have any copyright interest to any living person as it exceeds the 50 year copyright limit in the UK. Furthermore, it can have no market value whatsoever. --Ajsinclair (talk) 13:05, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Er, copyright never expires after just 50 years from creation in the UK. Copyright expires either 70 years after the death of the author or 50 years after the first publication, whichever is later. Unless it was published before 1962 and made by a person who died before 1942, the file needs permission from the author, see COM:OTRS. Additionally, unless published before 1946 and made by a person who died before 1926, or published before 1923 (regardless of the year of death of the author), then the book is still copyrighted in the United States. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:24, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
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I submitted a photo by email

I sent a photo to permissions-commons[at] yesterday together with the permission information. Will I be notified if/when the photo becomes available here on Commons? I want to use it in an article on the English Wikipedia. Dodger67 (talk) 16:41, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard is the place to ask about permission letters and ticket numbers. It will take at least 14 days, I think. -- RE rillke questions? 07:47, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
If you would upload it yourself and just sent the permission (mention the file name here on Commons) you could use the image already in the article. You will not be noticed but you will see the permission entry on the file pages. --Saibo (Δ) 22:47, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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Can I upload an image released under CC BY-NC-ND 3.0?

I'm hoping to upload an image that has been released under the license CC BY-NC-ND 3.0, which doesn't allow derivations. I haven't seen other images released under this here, so am I able to do so? I'd also like to know, does simply cropping an image count as creating a derived work? Thank you. Trinitresque (talk) 20:32, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Images uploaded under a CC-BY-NC-ND licence are not allowed here and are deleted on sight. Commons only allows images which can be modified and which can be used commercially. --Stefan4 (talk) 20:45, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
As for your second question: The act of cropping an image does not attract copyright of its own, so the authorship and copyright situation for the resulting image is the same as for the original. If you crop a public domain image, the result is also in the public domain, and you cannot issue any licensing requirements or insist on being attributed. If you distribute a cropped version of a freely licensed image, you have to attribute the author and preserve the license the same way you would for an unmodified version. You may also have to state clearly that it is cropped, depending on the license. And of course, cropping a non-free image does not liberate it from its non-free terms. LX (talk, contribs) 21:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
However, although no new copyright arises, a cropped version of a CC-BY-NC-ND image probably violates the "ND" terms. --Stefan4 (talk) 21:10, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Drats, so much for uploading a picture of Egypt's next president. Trinitresque (talk) 03:11, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
We feel your pain. Hopefully another, acceptably licensed, picture will become available. Perhaps you could consider e-mailing the president's campaign office and asking that one be released (through OTRS, of course). --Philosopher Let us reason together. 04:52, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Kenteken.jpg

The image is the adapted version of UASA's official logo and the creation of the artwork was commissioned and paid for by UASA. The original logo (which was to be found on the Wikipedia page until 15 June 2012), is registered with the South African Department of Trade & Industries as the union's official trademark. The intellectual property rights of the image reside with UASA. The registration of the adapted logo (Kenteken.jpg) is currently in process. --Jonkmanskas (talk) 06:21, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Please see COM:CB#Trademarks. For logos which are not only text and very simple shapes we would need a permission from the designer. --Saibo (Δ) 22:51, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Battelle hall.jpg

How do I leave a valid tag for a photograph?

--Aesopposea (talk) 22:53, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Are you the photographer? If not, most likely you don't have the relevant rights to release it, and it should probably be removed from Commons. There is no indication that the referenced site ( releases its images under a free license. - Jmabel ! talk 00:39, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
We cannot host all media you find in the Internet here. Please read about Internet images and the intro of COM:L, thanks. If you have questions - just ask again here.
It is tagged for del. --Saibo (Δ) 22:53, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Deza.ejecutorias. 1999.90.djvu

This is an image provided freely by Spain's Ministerio de Cultura of a 1605 manuscript. Where/when/how do I include required permission tag, once image is uploaded? --Gdm1134 (talk) 07:30, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

You need to use the "edit" button on the file page to add something there. However, "© Ministerio de Cultura" does not look very freely published?! Anyway - if it is just a 2d object scan PD-scan applies. Just choose a appropriate copyright tag for the old work. --Saibo (Δ) 23:01, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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Ask for reference

I want to ask for references for an original chart that seems to me a bit to much imaginative, How may I do that? I want something like {{referencias}} --Martinmartin (talk) 07:50, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

{{Fact disputed}}, {{Original research}} -- RE rillke questions? 08:06, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Or {{Disputed diagram}} and {{References missing}} (linked on bottom of Template:Fact_disputed). --Saibo (Δ) 23:03, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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1907 Newsmedia image

If a photo was published in an English national Daily newspaper in 1907 can it be uploaded using ' PD-1923 ' , or other licence if more appropriate, and quoting the source as the particular newsmedia it was in? I would like to include it as a relevant image on an English Wiki article. It is the only image I know of showing the person the article is about, who is now deceased. The article has a certain amount of historical importance and the image emphasises that? Richard Harvey (talk) 09:05, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

  • PD-1923 is not relevant: it's specific to the U.S. I suspect that the image is probably OK, but I don't know the details (may depend on when the photographer died). You might better ask this question at Commons:Village pump/Copyright, and you would do well to be more specific (what publication, what the photo credit was in that publication). - Jmabel ! talk 15:33, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
  • "Importance" is not of any relevance for Commons - it may be for uploading under a fair use claim at english Wikipedia. But not here - see Commons:Fair use. The date of death of the photographer is probably needed. Do you know it? As Jmabel said, we need more information to determine the copyright status. Reply here or at VPC. Also see Commons:Licensing#United_Kingdom (that may or may not apply here - depending on the circumstances of the publication). --Saibo (Δ) 23:11, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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Getting a license for a picture

Hello, how do I go about obtaining a license? The photographer and person in photo gave me permission via email. Where can I find a license number? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srdemuro (talk • contribs) 13:23, 21. Jun. 2012 (UTC)

Forward the original permission (including email headers) to and don't forget to mention the filename on Commons. --Túrelio (talk) 13:28, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
I would add to Túrelio's remark that given your lack of clarity as to what a 'license' means in this context (there is no 'license number' involved), there's a fair chance that the email you got won't conform to what we need. You should read COM:OTRS and at least the initial portion of Commons:Licensing, which should help clarify this. - Jmabel ! talk 15:37, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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file has not yet been published

20:46, 21 June 2012 (diff | hist) . . (-12)‎ . . File:A black english setter - a painting by George Paice.jpg


I have uploaded the above-mentioned file....Is there any reason why it has not yet been publishd? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siegfriedplus (talk • contribs) 2012-06-21T22:24:04‎ (UTC)

Hi again, please sign your comments on talk pages like this one with --~~~~. Note that I have slightly formatted your comment above to conform to commonly used styling.
What do you mean by "not published"? Please describe. --Saibo (Δ) 22:27, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello again

Sorry to trouble you... What I mean for "not published" is that if I write the name in the "search" button( and I have searched it in various manners, ex."George Paice" or " Black english setter" nothing appears but an empty page saying that no files exist with that name - unlike any other of my contributions, ex. "Picchi" - the wiki page immediately shows the file containing that name. Possibly because of my lack of knowledge these things seem so difficult.Sorry again and grateful for your attention. Siegfriedplus

The search index needs a few days to update. --Martin H. (talk) 23:00, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
For how a signature (the user name plus time stamp) works, please see how to sign - that helps other users to identify who wrote what/when.
You're not troubling, your questions are perfectly okay! It will be discoverable via search in some days (or even weeks - our servers are kind of broken sometimes). You can add it to an article already. By the way: Don't forget to add your files to some Categories to provide another means (by topic) of finding your images. --Saibo (Δ) 23:17, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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Uploading Files for New Page

I am working for a singer to create content online and through social media. I am helping her develop a Wikipedia page currently and unsure how to get the pictures and audio clips on her page. Are the photo releases she has for the pictures sufficient to upload the photos? What about the audio recordings? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GlitterRose (talk • contribs) 2012-06-22T22:00:55‎ (UTC)

Hi GlitterRose, if you want to upload media (pics or sound) those need to be usable by anyone for every kind of use (see the first section of COM:L). So, usually, press releases are not enough. To really release some media the copyright holder/author(s) has/have to send an email to us. At recordings there are several copyright holders involved (composer, performer, recording person, ...). Please see COM:OTRS. If you have additional questions, please ask below. --Saibo (Δ) 00:08, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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How to prove I have obtained a copyright for use of a picture

I recently tried to upload a picture for my Wikipedia article, however I am still having some difficulties. I filled out all the information I thought was necessary to prove that I had a copyright, but it still said it was insufficient. The subject of the picture, as well as the photographer, gave me permission to publish the photo. In fact, I am employed by the person in the photo. What else do I need to obtain a copyright of this photo if I have already obtained permission? Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basever (talk • contribs) 2012-06-22T23:49:12‎ (UTC)

Hi Basever, please see COM:OTRS. The photographer should send an email to the email address listed there. If you still have questions, please write below. --Saibo (Δ) 00:03, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Americans.png

Help, I'm new and I just did this montage (my first montage for an Arabic Wikipedia page talking about the American people) (all the pics are in public domain) (each picture has its source listed above). I already added each picture and where I got it from. The problem is that I don't know how to add the licence. If anyone can add the licence for me, I would appreciate it.--Qrhoo (talk) 15:30, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

The claim that all the images are in the public domain is not true. File:MaggieQSDCCJuly10.jpg, File:Oprah Winfrey (2004).jpg, File:Viggo Mortensen - 66th Venice International Film Festival, 2009.jpg, File:Felicia Day - Streamy Awards 2009 (12).jpg, File:CarrieRodriguezLondon.jpg are protected by copyright, and complying with their free licensing terms is a strict requirement for anyone to use them legally. In particular, you must attribute the authors, and some of the images' licenses place requirements on the licensing of any derivative works to be published. You may not claim that they are in the public domain. This is very important.
Some of the images you've used are in the public domain, some are {{cc-by-2.0}}, some are {{cc-by-sa-2.0}}, and some are {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} (and some offer a choice of licenses including at least one of those). A derivative of a public domain image or a {{cc-by-2.0}}-licensed image can be published under any license. A derivative of a {{cc-by-sa-2.0}}-licensed image can be published only under that license or a later version. Therefore, the most appropriate license for this particular combination of images is {{cc-by-sa-3.0}}. LX (talk, contribs) 17:46, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Since you didn't correct the page for several days, I fixed it for you. LX (talk, contribs) 10:39, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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Photo arrays and videos of WW I and WWII fighter aircraft

Photo arrays and videos of WW I and WWII fighter aircraft


I am lucky to live by Paine Field in WA,. where Paul Allen's Flying Heritage, and the Historic Flight Foundation are located.

Over the past few years, I have been able to take photos and videos of their aircraft collections, as well as other planes on the ground and when flying.

Those who do not live close to an airport or an aircraft collection museum, or can not visit one for some reason, do not have the opportunity to see the planes up close and personal, and also hear the noise they make when starting up, taking off, and seeing them making fly-bys.

The photo arrays of the planes and the videos provide that virtual experience.

They also are factual and expand on and enhance the Wikipedia articles about them.

I have donated all of the photos and videos to the public domain without restrictions of any kind. That is any user can use them however they wish to, and without attribution or any other restriction.



What would be the best way to upload the photo arrays and the associated video/s for the various aircraft so that they remain as a group of photos and videos that focus on each specific aircraft?

Just up load them, or set up a page or other location, and upload them there??

Also, I understand that large images are recommended, but what would be the best size for average viewers using PC's or E-readers such as a Kindle or Apple???

I can rename the files is and as needed

Thank you in advance for your assistance,

Best regards,

John Veit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5shot (talk • contribs) 02:16, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

  • It would be useful to use a consistent naming scheme, but that scheme is really something you get to devise. As for keeping images related, our main mechanism is Categories; if you have many photos of exactly the same airplane, you can subcategorize down to the level of the individual plane (or even tighter, as for example the tail section of a particular plane, if you had a dozen or so photos of just that).
  • I would say just upload them here.
  • Don't worry about the best size for e-readers: Commons' software will do the scaling down to appropriate sizes, that's why we say just upload the highest resolution available. - Jmabel ! talk 02:39, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


Thank you for your prompt and informative reply. I will check out the references you provided, do some re-naming to help keep the visual "walk around" of the planes in order, and start uploading.

Best regards. 5shot (talk) 13:45, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

If you did not already, have a look at the information on top of User talk:5shot - they may be useful. E.g. Commons:First steps (although that may be outdated in some parts). If you have more questions, just ask at help desk again. --Saibo (Δ) 22:33, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Saibo,

I went to the category into which I wanted to upload files. I uploaded some, but they did not show up on the category I thought I uploaded to.

I note that they are shown as additions and look good, but they have no category designation.

So I guess one needs to do that when uploading.

1. Where does one add the category designation and can one add more than one???

2. How does one change or add an additional category later???

Thanks again. I may sort of figure this out soon. :-) 5shot (talk) 02:42, 22 June 2012 (UTC) 5shot (talk) 02:45, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Upload a set of 4 photos and in the file description adedd Categoery:Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa

One of the files made it into that category and could be accessed via the Article on that plane which has a link to Wiki Commons media.

Looks like the software may need to be checked or I need step by step instructions on this.

Thanks in advance for your assistance in this and also in regard to the questions numbered 1 and 2 above.

Best regards,

John Veit 5shot (talk) 04:24, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

I found out how to add categories on upload. I'm a newbee and a bit slow. Will delete my uploaded files if possible, and then reupload them with categories.

So this entry can be discarded.

Thank you for your help.

5shot (talk) 16:30, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Categories can be assigned to an image during upload or later. To add a file to e.g. the Category Test images the text [[Category:Test images]] has to be added to the file page (somewhere near the bottom usually). So we do not need to delete your already uploaded files. Just the category has to be added to the file pages (in edit mode). Your uploaded files are listed there. By the way: It is useful to add more description (what is shown) to e.g. File:Oscara.jpg. "Front view propeller" is a bit short. Which type of aircraft? If there is a Wikipedia article you can link to it using that syntax: [[:en:Somearticlename|Somearticlename]]Somearticlename. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 23:59, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you again Saibo,

- I have added the category to each photo. - I will go back and expand the description to include the name of the plane, which also happens to be the name of the category.

The name Oscar was the name the allies gave to the plane for ID and operational purposes, like the Zeke or Zero.

- I will also add an article link using en:the name of the article.....

The category name was the name of external link in the article : (Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa), Which points to that Wikimedia category and the photos.

I plan to set up a category for the image arrays I upload, and add a sub category or gallery for each type of plane. That way they will be easier to edit if needed to make them more useful, as I gain experience.

There are 24 different arrays of photos and 28 videos of fly-bys of various planes. Also, as time goes by, I should be able to add additional photos and videos.

If you have a suggestion on how I might set up the category and subs or galleries, that would be appreciated. You have a good way of explaining things.

Best regards,

John Veit 5shot (talk) 04:16, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Again, I am reading up on User galleries as I may be able to set one up for each plane and for videos. ??? 5shot (talk) 05:11, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

In your text above you made a typo in Category:Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa - if you spell it correctly it works (note that I have inserted a ":" after the brackets to show the link - otherwise this page would be categorized into this category.
Sub categories for specific plane types are fine - as long as there are more than about 10 images or as long as we can expect that soon there will be more than 10. Categories can be created like pages/articles. To make a category a sub category of another the sub category has to be categorized into the "super" category.
If you want to discuss specific category structures for aircraft (types) it may be best to work that out with the users at Commons talk:WikiProject Aviation. But you also can just go ahead - everything can be fixed/improved later on (maybe even by you when you got more experience). Your categorization into e.g. Category:Mitsubishi A6M Zero worked fine. As you can see in the categories gallery it would be useful to use file names which are a bit longer (not just e.g. "Zeroa.jpg") to provide more info the image in that view.
Galleries are another way to group images here at Commons. Usually they are not used that much since categories are easier to maintain. I would suggest you start only with categories sine categories also provide a visual overview over their images.
You tried to create a user gallery - for that you need to create the gallery page first. However, user galleries are just meant for yourself - if you need them to keep track of what you already have uploaded or if you want to show others what content you've created. They are not used to show content to our readers.
I hope I could answer your questions somehow. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 16:43, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:3r Congrés Nacional de la Gent Gran. Delegats comarcals.jpg

No sé per què posen aquest document en alerta. Jo us informo que aquesta llista ha estat proporcionada lliurement pel Sr. Josep Maria Casas-Huguet, que va ser delegat pel Garraf del Congrés, com així consta a la llista junt amb els altres delegats comarcals. Al seu dia, maig de l'any 1998, la llista es va fer pública i no era cap secret, ans al contrari. M'agradaria que m'informéssiu si amb tot i això que us explico no és vàlid que sigui penjat a la Viqui Commons. Si no és vàlid, doncs que l'eliminin, però m'agradarà saber per què. Gràcies!-- 22:06, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Saibo m'ha demanat que et pregunte si has entés l'explicació en anglés que ha deixat més avall per el dubte que has deixat. Si no, podem tractar de traduir-la al català. Gràcies. --Millars (talk) 23:56, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
¡Hola! I think you write in Català - sorry, I don't speak this language. Translation is possible if needed. Maybe a automatic translation to Spanish (may be incorrect) helps you too.
This document is going to be deleted because you did not say correctly that and why it is free. Please read the introduction of Commons:Sobre les llicències and Commons:Abast del projecte#Evidència.
It is not relevant that this document is not secret. Instead it is needed to know if it is copyright eligible.
  • If it is we need a permission from the author (for use by everybody).
  • If it is not copyright eligible we can just keep it here but need to say explicitly that we think that it is not copyright eligible on the file page to show others why this document is free. We can add the template {{PD-text}} to the file page for this purpose. Please see Commons:Images containing text.
I am not sure in that case - I do not know how strict the Spanish database copyright law is. What is it? A list of congress members in Catalonia? That is quite simple and this is probably not copyright eligible then.
Maybe we do not need to think about that since {{PD-SpanishGov}} may apply. But I do not know if this list here by the government of Catalonia counts as work by the Spanish government. --Saibo (Δ) 23:48, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

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Copyright help regarding File:Arnold Burrowes Kemball.jpg

I have this image as a carte which I scanned, but is on the Internet too. It is by Camille Silvy (1834-1910), died over 100 years ago, and was taken in 1860, so should be copyright free for all areas and in the public domain.

--Acabashi (talk) 03:19, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

If it was published before 1923 you can use this: {{PD/1923|1910}}. If you do not know if it was published before 1923 and if it is no USA work then use {{PD-old-auto|1910}}. Just insert these tags on the file page instead of the warning box.
Could you please mention the source more exactly? Just insert the URL/website address where you got this image from. If you canned it then please mention the bibliographical information of the original ("carte") which you have scanned.
By the way: Please put the name of the depicted person in the description field and the name of the photographer in the author field. --Saibo (Δ) 13:54, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
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public domain = image license free?

i'd like to use image of "La baigneuse endormie(Pierre-Auguste Renoir 127.jpg)" (link: i need to print this image(16 pages magazin, releasing for free). i reviewed wikimedia commons web pages but failed to understand exactly. The painting belongs to an Swiss art museum "Sammlung Oskar Reinhart am Römerholz". And the wikimedia web page says the image is licensed under the GNU Free Doucumentation License, not the museum. though it is public domain, i still have doubts if i need to pay license fee to the museum for printing this image. is it really license-free image? or do i need to buy license for printing Pierre-Auguste Renoir's "La baigneuse endormie"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ha Sumin (talk • contribs) 2012-06-25T08:19:39‎ (UTC)

The reproduction in question is part of a larger collection of reproductions. In some countries, such compilations can be protected by copyright, meaning you would need a license to use the collection as a whole (which is not what you want to do, if I understand correctly). You still wouldn't have to pay anything to anyone to do that, because the GNU Free Documentation License is a royalty free license. Essentially, the license just requires that you attribute the copyright holder and attach a copy of the license.
The painting itself is in the public domain, and you don't need to pay anything to anyone to use it. If all you use is this single reproduction, you don't need to worry about the GFDL requirements either. LX (talk, contribs) 14:25, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
A second answer:
To repeat an important disclaimer: "Any answers you receive here are not legal advice and the responder cannot be held liable for them. If you have legal questions, we can try to help but our answers cannot replace those of a qualified professional (i.e. a lawyer)."
A general help page on this topic is Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia.
The painting itself is public domain due to age (in most countries that is 70 years after death of the painter; in the USA if published before 1923). Public domain means: no restrictions.
The museum probably has no rights on that painting - except that you can only physically visit the painting if you pay their entry fee. In some countries (e.g. EU) there exists a publication right (for the benefit of the museum) for 25 years after publishing if the out-of-copyright work was not published before. That may be the case with the museum. I don't really think this applies here - I am just mentioning it.
The "GNU Free Doucumentation License" part only applies to the whole collection of images (I guess due to database copyright). I think that should not be relevant for a single image. Despite it is not legally required to attribute anybody it may be kind to do so if possible in your magazin.
Did that help? --Saibo (Δ) 14:30, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Fort Producten - Itegem - België.jpg

Wil nakijken of dit in orde is. Bij wie moet men daarvoor te rade gaan voor het auteursrecht?? Betreft oude publiciteit van een bedrijf dat eigenlijk niet meer bestaat, laat staan deze producten. Geeft anders een mooi beeld van wat er vroeger zoal op de markt was.

Want to check if this is in order. Who should be appropriate to consult for copyright? Subject old publicity of a company that actually does not exist anymore, let alone these products. Gives a good picture of what else there used to store on the market — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spotter2 (talk • contribs) 2012-06-25T08:20:22‎ (UTC)

If the copyright still exists (it does until 70 years after the death of the packaging designer - see Commons:Licensing#Belgium) then you need to ask the author or the person who inherited/got the copyright. If you do not know this person: bad luck. We cannot keep that image. I guess that image is just a scan of flat paper - in that case we do not need to obey any copyright of the person who scanned ({{PD-scan}}) - however, the aforementioned copyright of the designer still exists. And Commons does not accept fair use claims.
I have deleted the file per your request on the file page. --Saibo (Δ) 00:19, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright questions

Am I allowed to upload images created under the Creative Commons Attribution Share-alike license 2.0, because this isn't an option on the drop down menu in the upload wizard? Apologies if you've been asked this question a million times before.

Also, if I release my own photographs into the public domain, are others allowed to claim the copyright as they have done here [[6]] [[7]] [[8]] ? Regards--Ykraps (talk) 09:00, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

That doesn't seem fair that they claim copyright on your images. You could do as I do and just upload without a licence and then add one quickly after upload. I gave up on the upload wizard and use Commons:Tools/Commonist now.--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:19, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
No, they cannot claim that (copyfraud).
To upload with {{cc-by-sa-2.0}} insert that tag in the custom license option in the upload wizard (under "not my own work" on bottom). Or use the good old Commons:Upload (or other upload forms) and insert this tag there (inside the "Permission" field). However, if it is your own work, is there a specific reason to use that version 2? It may get hard to e.g. create Collages then. E.g. {{self|cc-by-sa-3.0,2.5,2.0,1.0|GFDL}} is much more flexible. If you want to upload from flickr, please (and it is much easier) use some tools to assist you: Commons:Flickr_files#Tools. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 23:29, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
Note that reusers are allowed to upgrade CC-BY-SA 2.0 works to any later version of CC-BY-SA. Thus, the only difference between {{cc-by-sa-2.0}} and {{cc-by-sa-3.0,2.5,2.0,1.0}} is that the former doesn't allow you to distribute the work under a CC-BY-SA 1.0 licence. CC-BY-SA 2.0 files can be used together with CC-BY-SA 3.0 files in a collage (making the result CC-BY-SA 3.0). The only version to be afraid of is CC-BY-SA 1.0 where reusers aren't allowed to upgrade the version number. --Stefan4 (talk) 23:49, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
That is true - but who knows that (I did)? ;-) Furthermore: GFDL is would be a problem. --Saibo (Δ) 00:08, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be much I can about about the second problem, I sent them an email which they simply ignored. Anyway, thanks for all the advice about uploading images.--Ykraps (talk) 19:03, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Those help texts provide a how to / what may be done in case of license violations: de:Wikipedia:Textvorlagen#Hinweis_auf_Lizenzversto.C3.9F_bei_Weiternutzung_.28Dateien.29 (German; adapted for files) and en:Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks#Non-compliance_process (adapted for Wikipedia texts). Of course that is not really the case here (as your files are public domain instead of licensed) - but maybe some parts may help anyway. --Saibo (Δ) 19:20, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
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Unknown warning: "duplicate-archive".

Uploading photo Stevie_cameron4.jpg Unknown warning: "duplicate-archive".

Unknown warning? This error message is meaningless and uninformative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ross Fraser (talk • contribs) 03:03, 26. June 2012 (UTC)

=File with same SHA1 was deleted before. Ask on →→→→bugzilla: about getting a better message and sign your postings!. -- RE rillke questions? 10:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
That is known since at least 10 months (see box on the right). Messages of gratitude for WMF's Upload Wizard please here: Commons:Upload_Wizard_feedback. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 12:24, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
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Problem with image thumb

Hello, There is a problem with the thumb of this image : File:Jacques_Gautier_janvier_2012.jpg The original file has no problem... Does someone know why ? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CommT (talk • contribs) 2012-06-26T11:23:16‎ (UTC)

Hi Commt, please sign your comments here with --~~~~ (note: I have converted the URL to a wiki link). The image is in CMYK color space. Only 24 bit RGB works flawlessly (see bug link on the right side). I have re-saved it in GIMP in RGB mode. --Saibo (Δ) 12:56, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
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I have found some photos I would like to use in a video. Most say they want to be attributed which is fine but there is no information as to how to attribute contact information. Also photos listed in the public domain I assume I can use as is — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 2012-06-26T14:23:41‎ (UTC)

Hi, second question: yes. First question: usually there is no need to contact anybody for use - you should find all information on the file page. Please have a look at the page Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia - it should answer most questions. If not - just check back here. The function on file pages "Use this file on the web" could help you, too.
Maybe mention specific file names or URLs to help you with (a low number of files may really missing information). --Saibo (Δ) 14:29, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
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Two questions about uploading duplicates

  1. Does the upload form or upload wizard issue a warning when someone is trying to upload an image that is an exact duplicate of an already existing file?
  2. I have searched for, but haven't found, a tool/script (preferably python) that I can use to ask the commons server about a file before I upload it so I at least can avoid uploading exact duplicates. Pehaps by asking the server about checksum (md5sum?) or filesize. Is there such a tool? Or can I ask the server via the API? --Bensin (talk) 16:31, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Have a look here: #Unknown warning: "duplicate-archive". although that deals with deleted files. As far as I know it is possible to query that by sha1sum. Special:Upload does it on server-side (first uploads to server, there it is detected that it already exists and ask the user what to do). UW does it also on server-side (stupidly not directly after upload but in the last step (publishing). - issues this message then: translatewiki:MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-upload-error-duplicate/en.
A bit googleing and searching yields: the DB field img_sha1 (mw:Manual:Image_table) is your friend. Have a look at the code pieces found here.
And I found that in my bookmarks:! Works. Example for one of my uploads.: (the sha1sum was computed locally with sha1sum (GNU coreutils) 6.12) Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 17:00, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
That TOTALLY works for me! Thank you so much, Saibo! --Bensin (talk) 17:31, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Fine! I have added it there: Commons:Tools#Find files by SHA-1 hash (content-based). --Saibo (Δ) 18:43, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:NightKandles.ogv

I uploaded "NightKandles.ogv" on 2012 June 26 but the system claims that I didn't provide sufficient copyright/license info while I specified that this video was taken by a friend of mine who granted me permissions to upload the video to Wikipedia. So, what is still wrong with license and what should I change or specify, if any ?

--ConstApril (talk) 18:35, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

You haven't uploaded the file to Wikipedia, but to Wikimedia Commons, a multimedia repository used by Wikipedia and other projects run by the Wikimedia foundation, as well as others. Commons only accepts content that is in the public domain or published under a free license. These licenses are indicated using copyright tags. Your upload is missing such a tag, and based on your question, I'm guessing you did not get the copyright holder to agree to a specific license. Permissions that only cover use in Wikipedia are not sufficient; {{wikipediaonly}} is a speedy deletion tag. In order for us to keep the file, the copyright holder needs to agree to release it into the public domain or approve publication under a license that allows anyone to use it for any purpose. Since you're uploading a file that you received from someone else, you should read Commons:Email templates for how to obtain an appropriate permission from them and Commons:OTRS for information on how to archive the permission. LX (talk, contribs) 19:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
You wrote that I had to upload the video to Wikipedia, but not to Wikimedia Commons... How could I upload the video to Wikipedia ? If I upload the video just to Wikipedia ( not to Wikipedia Commons ), will there still be any licensing/copyright issues ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ConstApril (talk • contribs) 21:08, 26 June 2012‎ (UTC)
If you upload the file to English Wikipedia with the same information, I'll tag it with en:Template:Db-f3. However, it is not clear which language edition of Wikipedia you would upload it to. If your friend licenses it under a free licence, there won't be any issue, of course. --Stefan4 (talk) 21:13, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
I would like to place the video on both Russian and English article.
What do you need from us ( me and my friend who lives in Saratov, Russia ) to resolve all license/copyright issues ? Please advise.
Thank you.
ConstApril (talk) 21:27, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
I did not say that you had to upload the video to Wikipedia. I pointed out that you had uploaded it to Wikimedia Commons rather than Wikipedia because you seemed confused about that point – not because you should upload it elsewhere. Some Wikipedia projects, including the English Wikipedia project, allow files to be locally uploaded there, but they generally have the same licensing requirements as we do, so the best way forward is, as I mentioned, to obtain a proper permission and send it in. LX (talk, contribs) 21:33, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
I think it may help to re-read the first comment by LX and keep in mind that the same would apply if you would upload it to Wikipedia directly. In fact we daily move masses of files from Wikipedia to Commons.
The essence of the first section of our rules Commons:Licensing is that we (and Wikipedia) only use files which are free for everybody to use. If your friend wants to allow usage by Wikipedia only, we will not be able to keep the file therefore. If you still have questions, please ask here below. --Saibo (Δ) 22:27, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
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Enabling Liquid Threads on this page

moved to Commons talk:Help desk#Enabling Liquid Threads on this page -- RE rillke questions? 12:49, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

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Welche Lizenz?

Ich habe die Bilder von Spielern eines Volleyballvereins hochgeladen. Ich habe die Erlaubnis diese Bilder in wikipedia zu benutzen vom Verein per eMail erhalten. Welche Lizenz muss ich dann benutzen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlowin (talk • contribs)

Hallo Mlowin, bitte signiere Diskussionssbeiträge von dir mit --~~~~, sonst weiß man nicht, wer jenes geschrieben hat.
Nein, du hast grundsätzlich nicht die Erlaubnis Fotos zu verwenden, die jemand anderes geschossen hat. Wir verwenden nur Fotos, die für jedermann, für jeden Zweck verwendbar sind (siehe Einleitung von Commons:Lizenzen). Wenn der Fotograf (wenn der Verein dem Fotograf auch die Rechte abgekauft hat, die Fotos weiterlizenzieren zu dürfen, dann kann die Freigabe auch durch den Verein erfolgen) die Fotos für jedermann freigeben mag, dann folge bitte den Anweisungen auf der Seite COM:OTRS/de. Dann kannst du sie in Wikipedia benutzen.
Auf der Homepage schreibt der Verein gegenteiliges am Ende von Punkt 3 des Impressums - das ist aber kein Problem, wenn per E-Mail dennoch für jedermann freigegeben wird.
Übrigens, es wäre schön (aber kein Muss), wenn es die Fotos auch ohne Logos darin gäbe - üblicherweise werden solche Logos ansonsten sowieso manuell, nachträglich entfernt (siehe Commons:Watermarks).
Ist nun alles klar? Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 12:54, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Tessy Thomas.jpg

I uploaded an image to wikimedia. But the message is "This media file does not have sufficient information on its copyright status. Unless the copyright status is provided, the file will be deleted seven days after this template was added: (25 June 2012)". How can I add copyright status.

--Vikian (talk) 11:25, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you are not the creator of this drawing, and therefore you are not entitled to publish it here under a free license. It is a copyright violation. Yann (talk) 14:11, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Please go back and re-read Commons:First steps and at least the introduction to Commons:Licensing to learn about what Commons is and what kind of content you can legally upload here. LX (talk, contribs) 15:08, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Nicki Minaj Barbie.jpg

i need help on how to lisence a photo i found on another website

--1flyguyrob (talk) 19:37, 27 June 2012 (UTC)ThugLife

The photo is a derivative work of a photo of a doll, so both the photographer and the doll manufacturer have a say in the choice of licence. You need to obtain permission from both Mattel and from the photographer and send both permissions to OTRS, see instructions at COM:OTRS. Failing that, the image will be deleted. --Stefan4 (talk) 19:41, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
You are not allowed to license a photo you took on another website. Only the photographer can. Regards, Yann (talk) 19:44, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
To specify the "derivative work" help page link by Stefan4: on toys. However, the issue that the photo itself is not allowed without a free license is enough to not upload it here. --Saibo (Δ) 20:24, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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Info needed for usage and attribution of photo

We wold like to use a photo by Cataonique on Wikipedia Commons- and do not see any specifications on attribution on their page. In fact, their user page is empty. Can someone please assist me with how to find out if we can use this photo and the rules for using it, we would be using it for signage and on a brochure. Please advise us on how this works and how to get in touch with this user to get permission or instructions.

We are interested in his and perhaps other photos by Catatanique in Orange County

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esolomon (talk • contribs) 2012-06-27T22:05:11‎ (UTC)

The reuse requirements are written on the file description and written in the license agreement linked on the file description. For reuse you have to attribute Catatonique, you must add the link to the license URI ( and you must publish all copies or derivative works of this photo under an Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license. See Commons:Reuse. You can contact the user at User talk:Catatonique or sent an email to the user by using the "E-mail this user" button on the users talkpage. --Martin H. (talk) 22:10, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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Chemical structures, help on copyright status.

My question originates around the following image license box

According to the above template [9], a chemical structure cannot be copyrighted.
I have the following doubts,

  1. Does every molecular structure (like ball and socket structures) gets this copyright status; including long polymers(DNA,proteins or rubber) and complex structures?
  2. If so can we upload every structure on this internet including those which belongs to copyrighted pages/articles? If not, can we upload every simple structures on this internet ineligible for copyrighting including those which belongs to copyrighted pages/articles
  3. What about reaction mechanism? Can I draw the same mechanism that I found in a book and upload it with this copyright status? I mean, are reaction mechanism in public domain?
  4. The chemical drawing program is copyrighted and says "For educational use only". Does this status apply to the molecules drawn out of them? If so, then can I upload it to commons?
  5. Where in wikipedia and her sister projects can we use images of commons? Is every image in commons usable in articles of her sister projects? What about it in user pages?→VanischenuTM12:24, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
  • (I have taken the liberty of changing your bullet pointed list to a numbered one)
I am not an expert on copyright, but here is a few points.
1,2) If a structure exists in nature, then I can't see how the structure can be copyrighted. At best one can copyright one's illustration of it. If there are rigourous notation standards so that a structure can only be illustrated one way (within a particular standard) then there is no way of saying it has been copied unless knowledge of the structure is not public knowledge.
3) You can not copyright a 'mechanism' (perhaps patent?), so you can take the information provided by their illustration and illustrate it, but just copying their illustration is more likely to be a problem - or is there only one way to illustrate a chemical reaction mechanism?
4) I suppose the terms of use or licensing of a computer program could specify that you transfer all copyright (if any) of created images to the program's author, but that would have to be explicitly stated and agreed to. It sounds to me as though if you use the program for "non educational use" you are breaking a 'contract' with them (and they may take some action against you), but the images created are still yours, and any copyright in them is yours. Anyway our projects are all 'Educational' ;-)
5) Images on Commons can be used on any of the sister projects using exactly the same syntax as you would use for images locally available on that project (if an image of the specified name is not available on that project, it looks for it on Commons) --Tony Wills (talk) 00:36, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
  • To answer only your last question: in general, Commons content can be reused anywhere, but of course not all use is appropriate. For example, it would not be appropriate to post a naked picture of someone who happened to be in London in an article on London. What sort of limitation were you even imagining? - Jmabel ! talk 00:19, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
I suppose if we are talking about copyright contraints, all images on Commons should be freely usable in their counry of origin and in the USA (where the servers are). But some countries may be more restrictive, eg an image might still be copyrighted or have further restrictions (eg images of a prophet) in a particular country - Something to be aware of when editing non English language wikipedias etc. --Tony Wills (talk) 01:00, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
To answer the original question: you're correct that they can't be copyrighted. It's not so much that they're so simple as that these structures (if done accurately) are the only correct way to represent chemical forulas graphically. A polymer with two hundred atoms absolutely must be represented the same way every time (if you change something, it won't be the same molecule), so there's nothing original in representing it that way. This is the reason that chemical structures can't be copyrighted, while things of lesser complexity can — when you make a drawing or write a piece of text, you aren't rigidly bound to write or draw the same thing, but there's only way to represent the complex polymer. Nyttend (talk) 20:58, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you all. You cleared me about the copyright status of a compound. Sorry that I did not respond immediately. But one more doubt can I copy some structure from any website via a search engine. Also will I break the contract between the authority, if some one use this image for commercial use by taking it from Commons?Vanischenu (talk) 07:45, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Can you provide some example? URL? --Saibo (Δ) 22:36, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Image file replaced by a completely different image

File:OliverEllsworth.jpg has several issues that need to be sorted out by somebody who is smarter about images than I am. The file was originally created in 2007 from an image obtained from a US Senate source (a black-and-white head-and-shoulders portrait -- link to source page). In 2008, another user replaced the image with an entirely different image (a seated portrait, in color) obtained from a US Supreme Court source, but did not change the file description, so the current description is now completely incorrect -- and the original image is no longer on Commons (although File:Oliver Ellsworth.jpg is very similar). Additionally, the image uploaded in 2008 appears to be a flipped-over version, with slightly different framing/cropping, of the portrait currently found on the Supreme Court history website, which portrait is on Commons as File:Oliver ellsworth.jpeg. Questions:

  • What is the actual source of the image at File:OliverEllsworth.jpg? Is it a flipped-over and retouched version of the portrait at File:Oliver ellsworth.jpeg, or is it a different portrait? (I think it's likely to be a different portrait, likely an 18th-19th century painted copy.)
  • How can the history of the two images at File:OliverEllsworth.jpg be revised to correctly indicate the history and sourcing (and restore the deleted image)?

I'd appreciate it if someone would fix the situation, rather than telling me what the solution should be. --Orlady (talk) 13:54, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

See Commons:History merging and splitting. To find related images and more sources, you might want to try Google's Image search with :Please excuse me for not fixing it directly. --  Docu  at 14:05, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
I haven't found a source for this image, although I did find it on . --Orlady (talk) 19:11, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
That lists the artist [William R. Wheeler (1832-1894) after Ralph Earl (1751-1801)]. Most consider this sufficient for XIX century paintings. --  Docu  at 19:37, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
I know my comment doesn't answer the request, but I can't help notice that the Commons description pages of all those files are terribly lacking in information. They do not mention the authors or give a complete description. The painting File:Oliver ellsworth.jpeg looks like a reproduction of one half of a painting (context) by Ralph Earl (the full version doesn't seem to be on Commons). The uploader's comment for the 2008 version of File:OliverEllsworth.jpg mentions "The Collection of the Supreme Court of the United States" as the source of that version, but the wording and the flipped image hint at the fact that the uploader might have used the image (linked above) as the actual source. I'm not sure about the usefullness of that flipped version of the half-painting, as uploaded in 2008 over the original version of File:OliverEllsworth.jpg. Also, I wonder what was Wheeler's role. Did Wheeler actually paint a copy of one half of Earl's original painting, or what? A much larger version of the engraving File:Oliver Ellsworth.jpg is available there (context). The description page does not mention the author. Could that engraving have been made after a portion of Alonzo Chappel's portrait of Ellsworth? -- Asclepias (talk) 21:00, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Search by file size

How do I search by file size? I need files 4mb+. Looking for classical or historic paintings.

I think you cannot. --Saibo (Δ) 22:58, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

file upload

Don't Know what to do about the foot-note "Category: PD-URAA tag needs updating" in two of my files. I notice that the same category applies to a lot of files... How can I update this " PD-URAA "? I have tried in searching for hours now. Shall I give up uploads of my collection I so wanted to share with the world? Please, help!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siegfriedplus (talk • contribs) 2012-06-21T19:50:23‎ (UTC)

Like it says on its page, the status template you used is deprecated. Please replace it with the appropriate current template(s). -- Asclepias (talk) 20:05, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi Siegfriedplus, just ignore everything containing "URAA". Your files will probably be fine also with that note. The "URAA" stuff is just some personal opinion of some US-centric people.
However, and more important, please note that we need to know who photographed e.g. that one: File:Andrea_Picchi.jpg - the photographer has a copyright (at least if he takes a pic of something 3 dimensional). If you are the photographer you should license your work in order to upload it to Commons. Info: See COM:DW for (usually not allowed) photographs of other people's works - only allowed if the other people's work is already in the public domain. --Saibo (Δ) 22:24, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

How to create a gallery page/s in category "User galleries"

When I edit - Category:User galleries - to set up a series of gallery pages, using the language suggested does not work for me. So, I must be doing something wrong.

I have asked who to do that and the answers are not "just enter this language on the bottom of the edit page, sign it, and add a summary entry.

I want to add several gallery pages with the same User anme but /titles such as this for two of them:



I have been at this for several days now, and my halting steps to set up the pages, probably has cause problems. So, if you could tell me the magic words / syntax to use, I would be very thankfull.

Best regards,

John Veit 5shot (talk) 04:55, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Item 1.

This is the language with suggested editing language to use which is at the top of the page Category:User galleries

To add pages to this category use {{User gallery}} or {{User gallery|User name}} or use [[Category:User galleries|user name]] . For user categories, add to Category:User categories, not here.

To add a gallery page I used User:5shot/Oscar and it worked!!!

I suggest that the info on the top of the page be changed re gallery pages.

Item 2

I believe that the {{ }} entry can be used on the gallery page to show that it is the Category:User galleries. However, which of these two methods is best for use?? a -- {{User gallery|5shot}} b -- {{User:gallery}}

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

5shot (talk) 05:41, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

The help info at th top of the page uses{{ }} in reference to galleris and the words User gallery or User gallery|User name within them. Brackets [[ ]] are used in reference to Categories with the word Category: as the first word with in the brackets.

I used the words User:5shot/Oscar within [[ ]] and it worked to set up a gallery page.

This has been added as the software translates phrases within {{ or [[ as actual entries. 5shot (talk) 05:56, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

First, I just wanted to link the previous, related discussion section about this: #Photo arrays and videos of WW I and WWII fighter aircraft (permanent link).
Second, I have edited your comment slightly to disable the brackets' function and instead show them.
Third: I am sorry, but it is really hard to understand the question or problem you have.
I have corrected two bits: one - the user galleries should be subpages of your user page, that means their name should start with this: User:5shot/ You can find a list of all your already existing subpages there: Special:PrefixIndex/User:5shot/. Two - {{User gallery}} is fine. --Saibo (Δ) 12:49, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your assistance.

Sorry that I have not clearly stated my problem.

When I asked this question here, and also the same question other places, I was trying to set up user gallery pages which I understand, do not require a topic category.

I have now been successful in setting up 3 gallery pages.

The reason I could not set them up before, is that the instructions on the top of the Category:User galleries page on how to do that, are not correct.

The instructions say "To add pages to this category" use Usery gallery or User gallery|User name within {{ }}.

That is not correct. I tried it and it did not work for me.

I used "User:5shot/Zero" within [[ ]] to add a User gallery page. And after I added some images, it showed up in the index.

That title is in the same form (User:xyz/name-of-gallery-page) as most all of the titles of the other pages in the index.

So it looks like my problem has been solved, at least for now. I am new to this so I expect that I will need some assistance in the future.


The gallery page User:5shot/Gallery was added there as a help to me. I would appreciate it if it could be deleted.

Thank you again for your assistance. 5shot (talk) 15:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

(I have again made some small code syntax changes in your post) Thank you for rephrasing! I have tried to clarify the intro of Category:User galleries. Better now?
I have deleted User:5shot/Gallery per your request.
Please avoid to ask the same question at several places at the same time - that may create unneeded duplicate answers (see en:crossposting). So, please leave a note at the other places that your problem is solved now. --Saibo (Δ) 15:49, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello again.

I was advised that it would be a good idea to add more identifying info to my photos. I planned to do that today, and when I checked my gallery pages, I found that one is missing: "User:5shot/Zero" Could you check to see if that was done administratively, and if so could it be replaced? Thank you. 5shot (talk) 13:54, 27 June 2012 (UTC) 5shot (talk) 13:59, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

1. I made a search for User:5shot/Zero and the page came up, but it is not listed in as a page in the index of Category:User galleries. ???

2. As to the intro to the category. the {{ }}'s should replace the [[ ]]'s. Then a gallery page will be set up. At least that worked for me.

Just don't use the word Category. If it is used, a Category will be set up.

Thanks again for your assistance. 5shot (talk) 14:34, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi again 5shot! You can find all your gallery pages there: Special:PrefixIndex/User:5shot/. You can find all your uploads there: Gallery (it is also linked in the info box on top of your talk page).
User:5shot/Zero was not listed at Category:User galleries since the "/" was missing at the end gallery tag (fixed) - this caused the system to "be angry". Not the {{user gallery}} listing works.
Regarding descriptive info: You should add it to the file pages (use the edit button on each file page). If you just add more info in your personal gallery page it is only visible there (probably only visited by you).
I am sorry, but I do not really understand your comment on the different bracket/braces types. --Saibo (Δ) 15:36, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

1. Thank you for your assistance in adding the / to the gallery tag.

2. Regarding descriptive info, I made some editing atttempts to better detail my experience with trying to set up gallery pages using the suggestions on how to do that.

I used the language in the template to attempt to set up a gallery page: - braces User gallery|1=|user=|5shot/tiger=|nocat= braces - and was unsuccessful:

I then tried thie suggested language with braces:- braces User gallery|5shot/tiger braces - and that was unseccessful.

I then tried this language: - brackets User:5shot/tiger brackets - and was presented with "User:5shot/tiger" in red and as a link. I clicked on it and a blank gallery page came up. I added in gallery page content, and saved it.

A lolor bar then comes up with "5shot" in red. When clicked, I was advised that there was no category for that. I went no further with trying to do anything about that.

I went back and checked on the index of the Pages in category "User galleries" and the new gallery page was shown there, and when clicked on, the gallery page came up for viewing and editing.


I attempted to use the entries with braces and was unsuccessful.

I then used a bracketed entry without the use of the word Category. The result was a blank gallery page which could be added to, and saved. It Also showed up in the index of "pages in category "User galleries". Success.

In setting up the gallery page, I also used a forward slash and the name tiger to identify it. That was done to emulate most all off the entries in the index.

I am new to this and don't understand what templates are and how they are used. To confusing for me, but as time goes by, I will read the info on them again and again and perhaps will understand just they do and what to do with them

Thanks again for your assistance.. 5shot (talk) 15:11, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I try to answer: You need to separate two parts: 1. setting up the gallery page, 2. categorizing the gallery page in "user galleries". For 1. you need to open the edit mode of the new page, put in some stuff and save. You can open edit mode for a new page if you click on a red link to the page. You get one if you enter the new name (it should begin with "User:5shot/") in the search box. Then, for 2. you need to add the category to the page. We have included the category link inside a "template". It is {{user gallery}}. That needs to be put on the new gallery page. Done. You did those steps somehow - therefore it worked at last. For your next gallery you can follow these steps.
I will try to explain "templates" but you can also read here: en:WP:templates. Templates are like a shortcut for much code. In case of the user gallery template (templates are everything enclosed in {{ }}) it includes code for that descriptive banner ("This is a gallery of files created by ...") and the category link.
Best --Saibo (Δ) 23:40, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Ernst Kolb, Künstler 3.jpg

Ernst Kolb, 1927-1993, was a german ART-Brut artist. There is a book published on him and I am the author of a wikipedia-article under the headline «Ernst Kolb, Künstler». I found his works in the internet on ebay where I could buy a number of his drawings and I was aND am very enthousiastic about his works that I contacted the magazin «RAWVISION», specialized on outsider art, asking them if they would be interrested to publish an article about this artist. They reacted immediately in favor and they plan to publish an article in one of their next issues. At the same time, The Collection de l'Art Brut in Lausanne, which I contacted as well, were also interrested to acquire works of Ernst Kolb and informed me that they would get directly in contact with Rolf Bergmann for this reason.

Kolb has been locally well known at his life-time, but today, 19 years later, he is known ownly by a few collectors. His work is very unique – I personnally belive that some day he will be considered as one of the few great Art Brut artists – and it would be good to show a few examples of his works allready right now, 19 years after his dead.

Kolb has left no relatives. The person taking care of his works is the author Rolf Bergmann. I could acquire a number of Kolb drawings. In the article on Wikipedia I have mentioned, there is unfortunately (!) no sample of Kolbs drawings so far and even searching on Google for drawings, there are non or but a few samples to be found. I would therefor very much like to show examples of his drawings – to demonstrate how unique they are – a description could never give an idea about it – I would like to upload a few samples from my personnal collection with the agreement of Rolf Bergmann, from whom I acquired them.

--Peter bolliger (talk) 08:56, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Since the artist died 20 years ago, his artwork is not yet in public domain. Since owning it doesn't transfer copyright to you or Bergmann, they won't be kept here. Since the artist is austrian, 70 years beyond his death release it to public domain, then it can be uploaded here. See Template:PD-Art and COM:When to use the PD-Art tag for further help--Trex2001 (talk) 10:43, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi Peter, thank you very much for your commitment! You write "Kolb has left no relatives" - but someone has inherited his copyrights on his works - if he did not expressly sell them (I think that is quite uncommon). You would need the heir's permission (see COM:OTRS) to upload the images.
If you need advice on the special laws regarding heritage and transfer of rights by buying I would advice to ask at de:WP:UF, the users who answer there tend to have more knowledge/experience on that tricky topic. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 12:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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Upload wizard doesn't work

Hi, the Upload wizard doesn't work since june 27 (yesterday). There is something 'spinnin' on the screen, like the program is searching something.. Does anybody know what this is, or is there another way to upload a file? - Richardkw (talk) 07:54, 28 June 2012 (UTC) (nl-Wikipedia)

Hi Richard, please report using the built in report function ("Leave feedback") on top of the screen inside of Upload wizard. It will include some technical details (which browser version) which may be important. Please describe at which steps after which action by you that happened.
To upload use the other options at Commons:Upload. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 11:51, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Okay, nearly surely you use Internet Explorer. Please use another browser (see also sections below). You probably do not see the "leave feedback" due to a technical problem triggered by IE. --Saibo (Δ) 23:02, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Saibo (Δ) 11:51, 28 June 2012 (UTC)


Just wondering, how does one search for "|author=[" without including images that include this in a random sequence?

Help:Search doesn't really help either --  Docu  at 17:09, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Your best bet would probably be a Google Search. --rimshottalk 19:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
For a short moment, I was puzzled as to why this actually seems to work.
Thanks for the suggestion, but this wouldn't work with cat-a-lot. BTW the "|" in my previous post isn't needed. --  Docu  at 06:04, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
I asked at Bugzilla:37862 --  Docu  at 05:17, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit Counter

When I used the Quick, Dirty, Simple Edit Counter I was astonished about many "Deleted edits". And I got no idea what this may be. User Soxred93 seems to be not active any more. May I ask to give me an explanation or a hint to understand it? Thanx. sarang 사랑 16:33, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Do you want a list of your deleted contribs? There are less than 500 on Commons. Some templates like ÷ were, e.g. deleted where you had more than 10 edits. -- RE rillke questions? 18:41, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Now I understand that the mysterious "deleted edits" are edits in articles that had been later deleted. Because I created some articles (files, templates) for testing and requested afterwards their deletion, the number increased, also all delete requests are counted. Thank you for letting me know. I do not need this list, but if there is a tool to get it pls tell me. -- sarang 사랑 06:00, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I am not aware of such a tool. Administrators can just view the list of deleted contributions directly, on Wiki. -- RE rillke questions? 09:16, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Hyderabad Montage

Hi, Can any one fix the license issue for the montage files taken from wikimedia common. I am confused to in fixing it, the files are here and here. Thanks and Regards :) --Omer123hussain (talk) 06:41, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I fixed one. Do you want to try the other?--Canoe1967 (talk) 15:46, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Delisting from FP

I would like to request delisting(from FP) for File:Detailaufnahme Weihnachtsstern - groß.jpg but that file was already requested before and kept. Opening a delist nomination displays the original delist nomination, unfortunately including the results-reviewed template. I didn't know if this would confuse the bot so I just put it as text in the delisting section on 5th june. No reply till now so would someone please open a delist request for me?--Gauravjuvekar (talk) 17:21, 23 June 2012 (UTC)


When it says "free to use with attribution as specified by the author," where do I find the information on how to attribute?

Unless it specifically states something else in the author field, generally just putting the author's username is fine. -mattbuck (Talk) 19:26, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

That template can be confusing if the author doesn't specify in the template. Perhaps a wording change to 'attribute to author or specification in the author field' type thing?--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:45, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Seems reasonable somehow - that should be discussed on COM:VP and/or (linked) at the template's talk page. --Saibo (Δ) 13:45, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Category:License tags attribution has 678 tags that would all need to be changed though? It may be easiest to just edit the re-use guideline?--Canoe1967 (talk) 15:25, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Whereever it has to/could be changed - it needs to be discussed before (licensing is a very senisble topic). But help desk is not the right place for such a discussion - imho. --Saibo (Δ) 16:45, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I started a new thread at COM:VP as the wise Saibo suggested. I will resolve this section again to continue over there.


--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:41, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I hope that is not meant ironically? ;-) Btw: it is that other resolved tag (which affects archiving) that is used here. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:14, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
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Move & replace tab disappeared

Sorry for disturb but I'm performing a technical problem from this afternoon. The "move & replace" tab disappeared, I'm a file mover and I performed this prob in January. Could it depend by a markup change? For example, I'm seeing a particular keybord below the edi summary, different from the normal one. Thanks for attention and regards. --Dэя-Бøяg 22:16, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

May it be true that you use Internet Explodrer? Please use any other browser (I recommend Firefox). It is hard to program for IE - especially for old versions. Probably your problem is related (that missing tab could be a sideeffect of a script error somewhere else here on Commons) to the sections right above you. Please mention your browser and version. --Saibo (Δ) 23:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC) Sentence corrected --Saibo (Δ) 13:09, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
I use Internet Explodrer :) , version 8. Anyway, today always runs normally again. Thanks for attention. --Dэя-Бøяg 12:27, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Okay, fine. As it does not happen anymore we cannot easily find out why that happened. So this can be archived. --Saibo (Δ) 13:09, 29 June 2012 (UTC) forgot two - maybe important - words --Saibo (Δ) 00:59, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks again :-) --Dэя-Бøяg 23:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
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前略、昨日アップロードした画像ファイルがずっと終了せず滞ったままです。 ログアウトしようがパソコンの電源切ろうがアップロードが終了しません。 このままでは半永久的にコモンズが使えなくなります。 どうかバグを解消して下さるようお願いします。 同時にバグの原因の通達もお願いします。 --Highten31 (talk) 23:44, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I do not really understand your problem, but it seems to be related to uploading. A first help: In case you use Internet Explorer and Upload Wizard - please use Commons:Upload instead or use another browser. See the last five sections above - a current problem. --Saibo (Δ) 01:26, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
インターネットエクスプローラーの利用者でしょうか。最近、アップロードウィザードがインターネットエクスプローラーで使えなくなりましたから、Commons:Uploadを使って下さい。他のウェブブラウザを使ったら、アップロードウィザードが使えると思います。--Stefan4 (talk) 13:15, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Saibo (Δ) 13:38, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Help with Joanna Clapps Herman and Annie Lanzillotto

I'm trying to figure out which license to use -- I got permission from Caronlina Kroon for Annie Lanzillotto's photo and I got permission from Joanna Clapps Herman to use this photo from her family's wedding. What should I type into their articles in terms of licensing? Please help, I want to do this right! I'm a first-timer. Srdemuro (talk) 11:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

You seem to be asking about File:ANNIE-LANZILOTTO-BOOK-COVER-PORTRAIT-110819 c.-2011-CAROLINA-KROON DSC2406.jpg and File:Jo at Doug and Stacy's wedding.jpg. The copyright holders should have indicated a specific licence such as {{GFDL}} or {{CC-BY-SA}}. If not, the permission is probably insufficient, so you will have to get a corrected permission. See COM:OTRS for instructions. Note that the copyright holder normally is the person who took the photo, not the person who appears on the photo. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:28, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay I see. What if I found the images through Google? Srdemuro (talk) 22:18, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, we cannot host all the media you find in the Internet. Please read about Internet images and the intro of COM:L. Is that understandable? Just ask any questions you may have. --Saibo (Δ) 00:51, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
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Remove a file

I'd like to remove a file, how can I do ? In fact, I've uploaded a Codlplay's single cover picture and I've only realized after that this was not correct with the rules of uploading... Could anybody help me please, I don't want to have problems because of that :(

Thanks a lot !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ColdplayLow42 (talk • contribs) 2012-06-30T15:58:22‎ (UTC)

I put a copy vio speedy tag on it. It should be got when admin gets to it.--Canoe1967 (talk) 16:41, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Canoe1967 !!

I'll do something better next time ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ColdplayLow42 (talk • contribs) 2012-06-30T16:44:48‎ (UTC)

You are very welcome. File:Art fixyou.jpg is the file if admin wants to link from here.--Canoe1967 (talk) 16:55, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Saibo (Δ) 18:33, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:ALizée Limelight single.png

The picture is a cover of a vynil album probided bu discsong. son ist only to put on infobox of the article and thats will be the ony use who have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tour84 (talk • contribs) 2012-06-30T17:47:18‎ (UTC)

That is 'fair use' and not allowed on commons. You should be able to upload it to the wikipedia you want to use it on under fair use guidelines though.--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:14, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Only some Wikipedia language versions allow fair use files. See for this topic: Commons:Fair use. To upload for use under a "fair use" claim in English Wikipedia (that is where the file was in use before deletion) please go to here: en:Wikipedia:Upload and upload there. --Saibo (Δ) 18:38, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
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How to erase a photo

I wish to solve this Photo-problem. I work on a page where I neede a photo. I downloaded a photo in Wikicommons but I have to erase it because it is not the right one, the license is mine. How can I do it? Thank you very much for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GraceE (talk • contribs) 10:42, 22. Jun. 2012 (UTC)

This is a bit unclear; if I understand correctly you recently uploaded a photo to Commons that you did not mean to upload. If so, mark it {{Speedydelete|Uploaded by mistake}}. An admin will get to it.
If you meant something else, please clarify. If there is some language other than English where you can express yourself more clearly, feel free, someone will probably understand and be able to help. - Jmabel ! talk 15:32, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
The only upload before this posting has been erased now (unclear permission, too). --Saibo (Δ) 14:45, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
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Deletion of images used only in speedily deleted article?

Is there a process to delete images used only in a Wikipedia article that has been speedily deleted? My question pertains to the images here and here, used in the speedily deleted Robert S. Prattico. Thanks, Kithira (talk) 17:07, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

It depends on why the article was deleted - we host a lot of media here that is not in use on any Wikipedia. For an en:WP:A7 deletion, which en:Robert S. Prattico was, the photo would not be eligible for speedy deletion, but would need to go through our Deletion Request process, showing why the images are out of COM:SCOPE for Commons. On the other hand, if the article was deleted as copyvio and you think the same problem applies to the images, you can always add {{copyvio}} to them. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 18:39, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
DRed. --Saibo (Δ) 14:49, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Saibo (Δ) 14:49, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Leave feedback function, and other non-existant and malfunctions

I don't see the "Leave feedback" function you mentioned to the previous user. Plus, all those buttons for special characters stopped working, again. I previously thought it was my PC, but now I have my doubts. When I push any of them, they don't work. ----DanTD (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Here on top in small print (disclaimer: I did not design that... - what I made is: linked Commons:Hochladen instead of uploadwizard for the upload link in the German interface).
Re special characters: could you please describe where those special characters are usually? Which browser (version number) do you use? The toolbars above the edit window work for me (Monobook and Vector skin, Firefox 13). --Saibo (Δ) 13:15, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
1)That function still isn't there. 2)I use Internet Explorer 7, but that doesn't make a difference, because the special characters aren't always at the top of the page, nor do they work all the time. Right now happens to be one of those times when they refuse to work. ----DanTD (talk) 13:36, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. 1) Okay, what at all do you see below "special page - Upload Wizard"?
2) Ooh, IE7 ... could you please upgrade to a up-to-date browser version if possible (in addition, of course, I would recommend anything except IE)? If no one did until tomorrow I will have a look if I can find a IE7 available for testing. Did you see usually that toolbars in the image I've linked to? Do you have ticked "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" and/or "Show edit toolbar" in your prefs? Sorry, there are many different combinations - please tell what you have set up and what you usually see. And when they stopped working. --Saibo (Δ) 13:51, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
1)Absolutley nothing else in the tool box, at least in the upload wizard. Right now I just see "What Links Here," "Related Changes," "Special Pages," and "Subpages."
2)If I upgrade to an up to date browser, how do I know that I won't take up more freespace(I barely have over 8GB of freespace as of this writing), or lose the abilities I had with the current browser, or that I'll even make those special characters work again? Those didn't really stop functioning this time until yesterday, and it happened without any actions in my preferences whatsoever. ----DanTD (talk) 14:34, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
  1. Saibo meant the links directly below the heading in UpWiz.
  2. What about a portable version you can put on an USB-device like Firefox portable or Opera (that supports installing as a portable application) or both? (Both are free, you don't have to enter any personal information for downloading; if you are asked to, leave this site immediately). Even if you put them on your hard drive they will only use some MBs of your valuable space. While browsing, it is possible that the cache grows and grows but you can adjust these settings. -- RE rillke questions? 15:17, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Nope. No portable devices. I have a cell-phone with a web browser that I can't access because it doesn't let me finish typing any URL's. And I still find it hard to believe this has anything to do with my browser, because everything was working fine until yesterday. Although it has no relevance, I have a 1.5 TB external hard drive, but I can't get it to work all the time because 1)the nearest outlet between the plug for it and my PC hasn't been working lateley, and 2)When it does work and I need to remove it safely, it doesn't always let me. ----DanTD (talk) 16:27, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Support for IE 7 and 6 will be dropped on lots of web sites in the near future. I am not paid by Opera but this browser is really fast, compared with IE 7. Opera is free but not open source and makes advertising at the new-tab-page. Firefox does not advertise at all and has nice Add-Ons allowing you to remove 99% of the advertising of websites. Experience a web without ugly banners. It's your decision whether you like the "struggle-behavior" of Internet Explorer or want a browser that is loading pages quite fast. There is also no reason not to try them. They all ask whether they should be the new default, and if you are not sure, you can deny these questions. If you don't like them, you can remove them through your software control panel. A lot of new functions and specifications where developed since the release of Internet Explorer 7 that you are unable to experience without a new browser. -- RE rillke questions? 18:09, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi again DanTD, it is really worth it to donate some of your 8GB to another browser. Probably it will only need below 50 MB (0.050 GB). The compressed download of Firefox for Windows is just 16 MB (0.016 GB). What will probably be bigger is the cache - but you can limit it to e.g. another 50 MB in the settings. That was for my recommendation Firefox - it is similar for other browsers. They are not big. --Saibo (Δ) 23:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Some of the stuff I leave in my PC is for other projects. Others are for Wikipedia, the commons, etcetera. Once I can fix the issue(s) with getting my external hard drive, I can probably get rid of more of the clutter. Right now, there's a new problem though; HotCat isn't working. ----DanTD (talk) 00:25, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
UPDATE: HotCat is working again. I just can't figure out why it stopped working. ----DanTD (talk) 00:28, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


IE 6 to IE 8 are all affected.

M$ Script debugger (IE 6) output:

/*JScript global code JScript*/
mw.loader.implement("", function () {
    jQuery(document).ready(function ($) {
        if (!('placeholder' in document.createElement('input'))) {
        if ($('table.sortable').length) {
            mw.loader.using('jquery.tablesorter', function () {
}, {
    "": ""
}, {});

/*JScript anonymous function JScript*/
if (allReady(registry[module].dependencies)) {
    execute(module); //  	module	""	String

/*execute JScript*/
if (typeof style === 'string') {
    addInlineCSS(style); //  	style	""	String


/*addInlineCSS JScript*/
else {
    $newStyle = $(
    addStyleTag(css, getMarker())).data('ResourceLoaderDynamicStyleTag', true); //  	css	""	String

/*addStyleTag JScript*/
function addStyleTag(text, $nextnode) {
    var s = document.createElement('style');
    s.type = 'text/css';
    s.rel = 'stylesheet';
    if ($nextnode) { //  	$nextnode	undefined	Benutzerdefinierter Typ
        if ($nextnode.nodeType) {
            $nextnode = $($nextnode);
    } else {
    if (s.styleSheet) {
        // ERROR: Ungültiger Prozeduraufruf oder ungültiges Argument
        s.styleSheet.cssText = text; //  	s.styleSheet	{...}	Object
        // 	s.styleSheet.cssText	""	String
        // 	text	""	String

    } else {
    return s;

// No matter what I try to assign to s.styleSheet.cssText, it always throws an error.
// A lot of RL modules are affected
// In debug mode (&debug=true) the error are ignored but the style is missing

-- RE rillke questions? 17:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

"IE 6 to IE 8 are all affected." I tried (20 minutes ago) with IE9 and UW also did not load - console pointed to some css command in a script. --Saibo (Δ) 23:06, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Saibo (Δ) 23:38, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Upload wizard doesn't work 2

Hi, Starting yesterday, June 27, I have the same problem of the Upload Wizard not loading as did Richardkw who posted today. I'm unable to see where any answer was given to him to fix the problem except to suggest using a alternate way to upload. I also have no "built in report function ("Leave feedback")on top of the screen inside of Upload wizard", probably since the page will not load.

I prefer the user friendly Wizard for uploads and would like to know a fix. My pc has the same IE 9.0.8112.16421 I've been using with no recent changes to any of my other programs. Tequask

You're having this problem too? Looks like there's more proof it has nothing to do with our browsers. ----DanTD (talk) 17:00, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
I see that people have been reporting the current wizard malfunction on the French Village pump today too. It looks like there's some problem on the wizard's side since yesterday . -- Asclepias (talk) 17:11, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
The upload link now points to the localized version of COM:Upload for IE users. -- RE rillke questions? 17:54, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
"nothing to do with our browsers" - well, up to now it is just Internet Explorer (IE). That may be because it is no fun to program for IE. --Saibo (Δ) 23:12, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Coming from User_talk:Titodutta#Problem I don't have IE, using FF 11.0 in Ubuntu 11.10. I second/third this is not a browser issue!--Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 18:40, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
The IE-only issue is fixed in-between. -- RE rillke questions? 19:49, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Titodutta, please describe the malfunction in more detail - preferrably in a new section. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 23:33, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Saibo (Δ) 23:37, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Scene from A Canadian Dream at the Union Theatre Peterborough Ontario 1992.png

I filmed this video in 1992 and made the screenshot in 2012. I am the author of the video and the uploader. I do not know how to change the copyright tag in order to correct it.

--Ral-clan (talk) 20:42, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ral-clan, in general you can edit the copyright information simply by using the "Edit" button on top of the file page. You find nearly all copyright tags here: COM:CT. Help on choosing one is here: Commons:Choosing_a_license. You need to copy and paste the tag's code (e.g. {{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-all}}) to the file page.
Questions: What do you mean by "Unknown Artist for the Union Theatre, Peterborough, Ontario"? Best just write the text which you wrote here also in the source field (after "source=") of the file.
Another question would be if the scene setting itself is creative enough to constitute a copyright for the play author/director. Then your video/photo would not be allowed (COM:DW). But that may be okay. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 13:40, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Saibo (Δ) 13:40, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

staff member taking credit for work belonging to a contributor

Hello I have my work taken from me I mean my name was removed and the copyrights have been changed. I have sent you a new release for Mombray Publishing today because the names were changed as well as the copyright. I sent the release to permission today. Publisher is not happy there credits are messed up, by someone making trouble. Also look at the discussion page for militarysurplus.jpg I took this and uploaded it I have the rest of the photo's from the shoot. The credits are incorrect and the image was for an article called West Point cadet sword.

This does not show up under my contributions, and it took months to find the material and hours to shoot, and a staff member takes the credit.

That's Great

AndyAndy2159 20:00, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure what's going on since I don't know anything about the background, but here's what I've been able to find. I guess you're talking about File:Military surplus.jpg. It looks like this image was extracted by Sphilbrick from a PDF document named File:Cw1850.pdf, which you originally uploaded according to your log. JPEG is a more suitable format for images than PDF (see Commons:Project scope#Allowable reasons for PDF and DjVu formats), which would explain this change. The old filename redirects to the new one. What do you mean when you say "the copyrights have been changed"? Do you mean that the license is incorrect? What should it be, then? You also say that the credits are incorrect. Again, what should they be, then? Currently, nobody is credited as the author of this image; the author is listed as "unknown". Are you saying that you are the author of this drawing? You mention a photo shoot, but this looks more like a drawing. LX (talk, contribs) 21:28, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Convenience link: "AndyAndy2159" is apparently Andy2159 (talk · contribs). Please put a link to your user page and/or talk page in your sig and please sign with ~~~~ to produce your sig. - Jmabel ! talk 15:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Military surplus-Bannerman.jpg

--Andy2159 00:22, 26 June 2012 (UTC) I uploaded 2 files Military surplus-Bannerman.jpg Military surplus-Bannerman1.jpg

The file was uploaded before under the name cw1850,pdf. Then cw1850.jpg

The first file was approved the second file was part of the page that I first edited out from the full page of the catologe.

Then Someone changed the name of the file and the changed the copy rights and gave themselves creit for the upload

this Image was made by me. I have a full set of images from the full page to the page that's it's been edit down to. copyright belongs to a 1913 Bannerman Catologe the fact that someone messed it up you really should have no problem find out who changed the name and copyrights and should have no problem allowing me to reenter the photos as I did.


I went to great trouble getting permission from the best know and best selling reference one this subject. I uploaded the Images and again someone messed with the copyrights changed them and I could not change them back so I went to Mowbray Publishing and they gave me a new release for 4 copyrighted fhoto's I submitted the release again this morning to permission. Publisher is not happy.

the submission below was sent to you this morning and should reflect the publishers wishes.

This Image has be brought into question. This is a new release from the best reference on the subject and the images are the best that can be reproduced, The copyright information has been changed from how it was entered the first time. I have all the images as I have taken them along with up dated releases. How would you like me to respond. Do you need me to reload the images.

Andy <removed>

Original Message --------

Subject: Re: Wikipidia image reprint request Re Wikioidia: [Ticket#2012051510000691] Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:55:18 -0400 From: removed To: removed

>From The Ames sword Company 1829 - 1935

Page 161 cadet sword and scabbard. page 63 U,S.M.A c 1850 page 225 item number Regulation 543 Military Regulations 542 & 543.jpg

I agree to publish that work under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0" (unported) and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts). I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

SENDER'S NAME AND DETAILS <email and name removed> SENDER'S AUTHORITY copyright holder [DATE] 6/25/2012

On Jun 25, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Andy <removed> wrote:

> Good Morning <name removed> > > I Thank you again, for permission to post the images that I requested. > > If you would be so kind to add just one more image. > > Really it's just 1/2 of an image, as permission for the other half has already been given. > That would be a new release from page 225 The image would be Military Regulations 542 & 543.jpg. > > So far Mr. <name removed> > has given me permission to post the following images from The Ames > sword Company 1829 - 1935 into an article called the West Point Cadet Sword on Wikipidea. > > Page 161 cadet sword and scabbard. > page 63 U,S.M.A c 1850 > page 225 item number Regulation 543 > > This new release would include the full section under Military Regulation on page 225. > If you can just include the permission for the full image. > > Military Regulations 542 & 543.jpg > > Into the release below and resend it. It would clear up a few problems. > > It would be most helpful if you cut and pasted the release below into your reply to this email as this would show the natural flow in full to my editors. > > Thank you & I my sorry to be of any trouble. > > Andy <removed> > >

Information was changed on some of the files to reflect bad or incorrect copyright and credits. I have posted that the information was stolen and ask a user named Sphilbrick (talk)

today I posted this to you his talk page and on all the talk pages that were changed

01:04, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

you took credit for my Image

MILITARY SURPLUS.JPG Is my work it took a year to get the catologe alone. I have all the photos from that shot... Do you have any. NO caused may work. That's very sad

Andy2159 19:46, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


This is my work I can prove it because I have the originals and many photographs from that shoot.

I can prove this and I can also prove that the image you took it from is my image called Cw1850.pdf.

Please explain how you can get away with removing other peoples name from their work and changing the copyrights to include false and misleading information.

Can you explain why you did this? Are you ready to tell the truth about this?

AndyAndy2159 20:37, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes some hard charges, and some how between 4pm and now, I can not file one file that I posted this information too.

I'm ashamed of some of your senior members actions. I've been working on this for over 5 years. I've been verbally beaten up called dyslexic, by people who are just on a power-trip and who know nothing about the subject, fact the ranking is high and it been getting about 300 hits a month. The People who I have been working with and the United States Military all agree that it is true to the point.

Now I have done every thing by your book. it was not me that changed the information, and it is posted in your records who did it.

So again you have already approved everything once. you should be able to approve it again as the information has be mess-up up by vandals.

Every thing that I've told you is true and you can prove it with your own database unless you are protecting someone.

Andy Andy2159 00:22, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I suggest you remove your email address to avoid getting spam via email. I will not remove it by myself since you see to very sensible about your work but I have removed other people's names and email addresses for those and privacy reasons. --Saibo (Δ) 01:20, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Let me make sure I completely understand this. You are claiming copyright on something published in a 1913 catalog? In the United States, I presume? -Nard (Hablemonos)(Let's talk) 02:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Andy, please excuse me, you write very much text - but I do not really know what you want. Could you please state that clearly without any conspiracy theorys? At which file name which change? Please also note the reply by LX (21:28, 25 June 2012) above. Then, I am sure we can solve that issue easily with you.
I also like to note that you are not talking with "staff" in the common sense here. We are all contributors like you - the "staff" is just running the servers. --Saibo (Δ) 14:21, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I've been out of town for a couple days. Like Saibo, I haven't yet understood what you think happened, and what should have happened. I assure you, we take copyright seriously, and want to make sure people are appropriately credited. There have been a number of issues with cadet swords, and it is possible something was mishandled, but if you explain calmly and clearly what happened, we can sort it out.--Sphilbrick (talk) 11:22, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Oh good grief, I didn't connect the name at first, but I now see you are the Andy I've been helping for months. Helping you sort out how to upload, how to edit descriptions, how to arrange for permission, and how to edit the article you are writing to include these images. I've written to you several times with suggestions, and cleaned up the article when you made mistakes. You couldn't figure out how to do some things, so I did them for you. The nature of the software is that it lists who did the upload - me. Is your complaint that the image I uploaded for you says that I uploaded it? If that is your complaint, it can be easily solved - I'll delete the images I uploaded. Let me know if this solves your problem. --Sphilbrick (talk) 11:44, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
If the problem is that some public domain files have a "wrong" uploader now we could either restore the original uploads or state Andy in the description (source) and/or reupload and state his name in the upload summary to give him credit. Nearly everything is possible - I have just not understood what is wished by Andy. --Saibo (Δ) 12:39, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
I sent him an email yesterday morning, asking him what he wants to do, whether having his name on the file satisfies his goal, or if he wants to upload it himself. I'll do whatever he chooses. No response as of now.--Sphilbrick (talk) 10:44, 28 June 2012 (UTC)