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DannyS712Edit

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DannyS712 (talk · contributions · deleted user contributions · recent activity · logs · block log · global contribs · CentralAuth)

Scheduled to end: 11:21, (UTC)

Lots of good edits, I think he could be good enough to be an administrator. Calvinkulit (talk) 11:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Co-nomination by Masumrezarock100Edit

DannyS712 (talk · contribs) – Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to DannyS712. I first encountered him when he left a message on my talk page on English Wikipedia about a script. As you might have guessed, he creates user scripts and assists in areas where technical support is needed. He also has written few gadgets for some small wikis. True, his global account is only one year old. But despite that he has done a lot of good works on Wikimedia projects. He holds several advanced rights on English Wikipedia as well as on Commons. Aside from that he is a patroller and translation admin on meta-wiki, and he serves as an admin on Mediawiki.org. He also holds several advanced permissions in some Wikimedia projects which proves that he is not a rookie and has experience with sensitive rights. He is a very active editor as his edit count has passed over 70 thousand on English Wikipedia. I am sure he will become one of the most active admins on Commons, if he becomes a sysop. I am not quite familiar with his works on Commons, but after reviewing some of his recent contributions, I have no doubt that he will be prolific admin. Therefore it is my pleasure to co-nominate Danny for the admin bits. Masum Reza📞 08:02, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

VotesEdit

  •   Support as proposer. Calvinkulit (talk) 11:29, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support Natuur12 (talk) 15:12, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Oppose I usually have my standards and honestly I don’t think they qualify right now. Despite their account age being nearly a year, they only done more editing here for nearly 4 months and their deleted count is under 500 edits. I don’t think it would be fair to give sysop tools to this candidate as recently there was a nomination by 大诺史 and their RfA was withdrawn due to account age and etc. As they are more familiar and experienced with enwiki, I would definitely support an RfA there and I can understand why they feel hesitant to do it. As I can also see, this is a surprise nomination. Nominators of candidates (like Calvinkulit) are expected to ask the candidate whether they would run for this or not, not just go on ahead and then later shut down when they refuse. Since the candidate has accepted this, I ask for more experience from them here before they become admin here. 1989 (talk) 15:51, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Oppose per 1989 --DCB (talk) 16:49, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support no concerns --Schlurcher (talk) 16:53, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Oppose I'd rather not grant Commons' admin rights to the user, who do[es]n't plan to get involved in license reviewing. --VLu (talk) 16:54, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
    • Not sure why you think that. License reviewing is a non-admin task, admins may wish to take part in it. Many users avoid complicated areas, what's wrong with that? Masum Reza📞 19:39, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support as co-nominator. Adminship is not just about license reviewing and upload count. IMO, nominees just needs to have experience and a good reason. I believe Danny already is a more suitable candidate. Masum Reza📞 19:43, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Neutral Lots of good edits, I think he could be good enough to be an administrator. - sorry, I can't make me an image here. I expect from a presentation more than this. To be honest - in m eyes, this is respectless. -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 00:14, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support --Mirer (talk) 03:09, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Neutral Changed from Oppose to Neutral. I am inclined to agree with 1989 and I think this nom took Danny as a suprise. I haven't seen any DR's from them, nor speedy deletes. This is a crucial part of an admins job on commons and I would like to see them contributing to and weighing on DR's to get some experience. (They might have already but I haven't come across them) And as 1989 points out another candidate was turned down for being too new but IMO contributes far more Gbawden (talk) 07:39, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
    @Gbawden: you're right, it took me by complete surprise. But, see the 86 deletion requests I've started (though that list includes a few other pages; its the best I could get) --DannyS712 (talk) 07:43, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support Definitely, We need to deal with ageism(edit count/account age), when they have shown good work on several projects, great technical abilities and they are aware of most of the policies. They have accepted that they won't get into something which they are not sure of, then what's the problem? QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 01:38, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
    They don't have much experience. 3 months of activity is not enough. That’s the problem. 1989 (talk) 02:11, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
    I agree that they don't have much experience and that's why they wish to stay away from complicated areas. But blocking vandals and some other admin tasks are easy tasks. Masum Reza📞 08:54, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
    Such tasks can be taken at enwiki, where imo they are experienced. 1989 (talk) 13:45, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
    See, instead of hypothetically arguing what I suggest is please try and look for two things. a) how much total time they must have spent through these last three months of activity. b) what are their big mistakes in that edit history/try and find out actual flaws/shortcomings if one could find anything and show it that they are not worth of having admin rights. then I will agree and change my vote too. otherwise this account age argument is not worth it, for me its a clear insult of their time + efforts. Some might take few thousand edits and a couple of years and some might get to the same point of maturity/understanding in few months or even in weeks too. Let's have some hard data and showcase that they have done some serious mistakes arising from their being younger in terms of edit count or account age. QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 18:52, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Oppose Per 1989 + never heard of the candidate + nominator + co-nominator, nothing personal, I'm sorry. --A.Savin 08:43, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
    Lol. Yes, I didn't used to edit Commons and I just started editing actively a month ago. I never heard of the nominator either. :) Masum Reza📞 08:54, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
    @Masumrezarock100: regardless of being a nominator or not, you’re not supposed to comment every vote. --VLu (talk) 09:36, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Oppose per A.Savin. Side note: nominator has a doubtful record, although this does not have effect on the question whether nominated user should be an admin. Jcb (talk) 15:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
  • moral   Support. He is filemover, patroller, rollbacker and template editor. Exactly such people are often promoted to administrators. Taivo (talk) 16:01, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support The nominator's and conominator's statements seemed a little weird to me. However, I think Danny would do a fine job. He might not have all the "expertise" some voters demand, but who said you had to be commenting or participating in every little corner of the site to be an admin? Some people do that, and they have also ran for administrators. But rather than being helpful or collaborative, they end up being annoying. And they have not been elected administrators, which is the funny thing. But well, may this RfA be successful or not, good luck Danny. --Cuatro Remos (nütramyen) 04:08, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Neutral: I agree with 1989 but on the other hand i also agree with QueerEcofeminist. -- CptViraj (📧) 13:29, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Oppose per A.Savin.--MZaplotnik(talk) 21:46, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support, per Cuatro Remos. —Hasley 17:16, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Weak oppose I believe the "mundane tasks" do not have a really large backlog and I rarely see you pop up at any of the AN's. In addition to what you've said below, "I don't plan to get involved in controversial deletions, license reviewing, or anything like that", I believe having some participation in LRs would be better as it shows that you have some basic knowledge of it. If you want to participate in it, I'd be more than happy to   Support you. Regards -- (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 04:59, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

@大诺史: Danny answered that. He would be more involved in blocks and protections, or B&Ps. Calvinkulit (talk) 06:51, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

@Calvinkulit: As said above, this is the part where the backlog isn't as huge as DRs, where Danny doesn't really participate in. Yes, blocks and protections are needed, but I believe that it is still within control by the current admins. (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 07:12, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

  • Does DannyS712 agree with this request? I would likely support his candidacy but not without knowing if he is actually willing to become an admin. Natuur12 (talk) 15:08, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
    Yes, I do; it came as a surprise, but I believe that I could use the tools to further this project. --DannyS712 (talk) 15:10, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  • DannyS712, you've uploaded the cropped version of File:(1-18) Peugeot 206 CC (4350220440).jpg. What would you decide if this file were proposed for deletion as derivative work and you were the closing sysop? Thanks, --VLu (talk) 15:40, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
    Given my involvement with the file, I would likely recuse from closing the deletion discussion. However, I'll note that while the flickr image is tagged as CC-BY-2.0, the image content (the car) isn't necessarily licensed properly. Given the precautionary principle, and the fact that the file is unused, I would close the discussion in favor of deleting the image. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 16:14, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
    And what if the file were widely used? --VLu (talk) 16:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
    Then I would leave it to someone more experienced; I don't plan to get involved in controversial deletions, license reviewing, or anything like that. I would use the tools to help fight vandalism by applying protection or blocks as needed, by helping out at requests for rights, and other mundane admin tasks. I don't intend to dive into areas I am not familiar with, and if at any point I am unsure about something I'll leave it for someone else; I am a sysop on mediawiki, but commons is a much bigger site with a very different culture, and I will be aware of that as I (cautiously) use the tools. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 16:46, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  • DannyS712 If you were appointed an admin, what do you see yourself using the tools for and where will you help out? Gbawden (talk) 06:36, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
    @Gbawden: They answered that above. 1989 (talk) 06:37, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Lucas Werkmeister (interface administrator)Edit

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Lucas Werkmeister (talk · contributions · deleted user contributions · recent activity · logs · block log · global contribs · CentralAuth)

Scheduled to end: 21:28, (UTC)

I’m the author of the AC/DC gadget. It started out as a user script, but now that it’s a gadget, I can no longer edit it directly. I can use {{Edit request}} on MediaWiki talk:Gadget-ACDC.js, of course, but I figured asking for interface admin doesn’t hurt either :)

While Commons is not my main wiki, I do have some volume of contributions here that I hope doesn’t look too disagreeable. I’ve also written another tool that’s mainly useful for Commons (though, unlike AC/DC, isn’t exclusive to it): QuickCategories, a way to mass-edit categories that has already been used for over 300 000 edits according to Special:Tags. In my day job, I’m a software developer for Wikimedia Germany, so some code from me is already running here no matter how this request turns out ;)

My account is reasonably well-protected – on all the main computers where I’m logged into this account, either the home partition or the complete disk is encrypted, and once I get the the right I will of course enable 2FA (at the moment I’m not allowed to) I have two-factor authentication enabled. I might currently be logged in on a few other devices, but I can reset my password to terminate those sessions. The big question is my phone – I’m currently logged in there and it’s not particularly secure. How do other interface admins handle this? I could log out, but sometimes it’s useful to be able to see notifications there. (T153454 would help here, but doesn’t look like it will happen soon.)

Commons doesn’t seem to have partial blocks enabled (yet?) as far as I can tell, but otherwise I wouldn’t mind being blocked from editing particularly sensitive pages, e. g. common.js and gadgets that are enabled by default, since the main purpose of this request is just one gadget. (On the other hand, I’d be happy to help with development on other gadgets too.) --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 21:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

VotesEdit

  •   Support Lucas Werkmeister is a trustworthy Wikimedian. — Envlh (talk) 21:37, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support Yes he is. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:42, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support Definitely the case, has earned it. Sadads (talk) 22:34, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Oppose As there appears to be a way around this besides giving you access to the entire interface. You have less than 3,000 edits here and no other advanced rights anywhere except the test wiki so I'm unable to even glean your ability to be trustworthy besides what I have in front of me. 3,000 edits is barely enough for regular adminship and in my opinion interface adminship is far more dangerous due to the ability to affect everyone from users to readers. I have no idea why Jean-Frédéric thought it would be ok to make your script into a gadget thereby locking you out of it but I don't feel like giving you access to the entirety of the interface to rectify that is the best course of action when there are alternatives. --Majora (talk) 23:05, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
    Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) is a Wikidata administrator.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:36, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
    Well, Wikidata Staff. That group is mostly equivalent to Administrator (and tbh I’m not sure if the differences are intentional or not – for example, Staff can’t manage tags), but I’m not supposed to exercise those rights most of the time. --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 15:22, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Oppose per above. 1989 (talk) 23:31, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support If you know what you do, you know what you do. And another categorizing 10.000 files here won't improve that knowledge. I have way more trust in Lucas than in some biased admins here with tens of thousands of edits. --Mirer (talk) 02:44, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
@Mirer: Could you explain how admins more experienced than you and this candidate is biased? Thanks. 1989 (talk) 03:22, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support I trust Lucas. Taivo (talk) 08:21, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support Lucas is probably the best person to be interface administrator; he maybe doesn't have much experience on Commons but he clearly have plenty of experience in interface. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 08:26, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support per VIGNERON --DCB (talk) 09:50, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support per Envlh and Vigneron. Pymouss Let’s talk - 12:44, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support, no problems--Ymblanter (talk) 17:36, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support Jianhui67 TC 04:45, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support Per my original suggestion. Sure, Lucas has not been a super-active user yet here on Commons, but the way I see it is: we have here a colleague primarily from another Wiki (Wikidata), technically-minded and highly competent, who has been developing tools for Wikimedia Commons. I see clear potential for Lucas to be involved in the maintenance and development of various gadgets and scripts. And overall, Lucas has long-demonstrated his trustworthiness and dedication to the Wikimedia projects, and I have no doubt he can be trusted with both using the advanced permissions and securing his account appropriately. Jean-Fred (talk) 07:16, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support of course, trusted user. Multichill (talk) 08:55, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 10:25, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support. I think communicating first with original authors or other interface editors is better solution then partial pages protection. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 13:45, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support- FitIndia Talk Mail 16:02, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support - Per VIGNERON. Highly trusterd User. -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 20:51, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support without any arguments. Masum Reza📞 17:19, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support User with proven technical competence on the work they want to do. 3K edits is reasonable at any sensible standard. – Ammarpad (talk) 20:39, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support They are here to help, undoubtedly. Cuatro Remos (nütramyen) 04:11, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support - CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 00:56, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support -- (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 05:01, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

  • If you are the maintainer wouldn't you be able to put this in your userspace and then have the MediaWiki page directed to that? --Majora (talk) 21:46, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Hm, are there other gadgets that do this? I’m not sure I like the sound of gadgets redirecting back into less-privileged space. --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 22:46, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
There really wouldn't be a difference. It would still allow you to make changes and we wouldn't be giving you access to the entire interface. Seems a little silly to be afraid of the consequences of having one script be redirected and not of giving you access to things that affect everyone down the the readers who don't even login. The only reason the script was even moved from your userspace to begin with was to make it easier for others to use it. --Majora (talk) 22:53, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
@Majora: I was thinking about this more from another perspective. If I was some other user who had never heard of this Lucas Werkmeister guy, and I noticed that this gadget just redirected to that user’s page, I might think something like, “who even is this guy? What gives him the right to edit a gadget, with no formal endorsement from the community beyond whoever set up the redirect?” That’s why I’m curious if any other gadgets do that already. --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 15:12, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  •   Comment I have no idea why Jean-Frédéric thought it would be ok to make your script into a gadget thereby locking you out of it
    Hello there. I am not entirely sure how to interpret that comment − for clarity, I had discussed it with Lucas beforehand (I guess I could have made it clearer that it would only be editable by interface admins after that). Jean-Fred (talk) 08:07, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
    For further clarity, I’m definitely not mad at Jean-Fred :) I think on some level I was aware that I wouldn’t be able to edit the gadget version as easily, though it still caught me by surprise a bit when it happened. --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 15:12, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
  • I realized that being a sysop on testwiki/testcommonswiki (for testing purposes) allows me to enable 2FA already, so now I’ve done so :) --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 19:11, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
@Lucas Werkmeister: You could also ask for oauth-tester right on meta-wiki to be able to use 2FA. Masum Reza📞 20:00, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

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GODLBot (talk · contribs)Edit

Operator: Eatcha (talk · contributions · Number of edits · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)

Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought:

  • Review Unreviewed photos of GODL-India must have an URL to match images.
  • Sometimes our manual reviewers don't remove the Unreviewed photos of GODL-India, after reviewing. This bot should fix these too.
  • If the original file passes review/already revied, it should review the cropped file too(Uses Vision for verification).
  • Leave an edit summary "passed review - godl"
  • If can't find the image in the website, will not do anything
  • GOI's sites are *.gov.in or *.nic.in (I blacklisted postagestamps.gov.in, a user told me that it's not sure if stamps are covered by GODL license )


Automatic or manually assisted: Fully Automatic, can run manually too.

Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): Continuous until every possible image is reviewed.

Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): Depends on GOI's servers, google's cloud services and our servers too. I'm using my own API key for this job, it depends on my usage. I use Vision for my IRL projects. If my users use up(highly unlikely but ...) the limit that I'm paying for, then it(the BOT) will run from the next possible month. NOTE: usually GOI's servers are turtles, super slow.

Bot flag requested: (Y/N): Yes

Programming language(s):Python(Pywikibot)


DiscussionEdit

I don't have LR rights, do I need to apply for it? If yes, I will not review anything manually just have it for formality. Already 95 test edits made all successful. Best, Eatcha (talk) 20:46, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

I think it's OK to make review without rights as long as test runs are small. 5-10 are enough to test bot functionality. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 13:43, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
I actually rollbacked all of these test edits, there are users who can file deletion requests with arguments like "Fake review, the bot was not flagged or had LR rights at the time of review." And GOI's administrators remove/replace images, the worst part of this GODL backlog. -- Best, Eatcha (talk) 04:30, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
It was definitely too huge test run. You could refer to this request in edit summary to reduce misunderstandings.
Please make test run for files originated from different web sites.
EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:25, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Here's a list of sites that are tested, I will add more to the list until it's enough

  • www.indiannavy.nic.in
  • indianarmy.nic.in
  • www.isro.gov.in
  • indianairforce.nic.in
  • eci.gov.in
  • pib.nic.in
  • pibcms.nic.in
  • www.indiancoastguard.gov.in
  • www.spl.gov.in

-- Eatcha (talk) 17:47, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

  • edistrict.delhigovt.nic.in
  • www.pmindia.gov.in
  • www.mea.gov.in
  • mha.gov.in
  • uidai.gov.in
  • www.delhipolice.nic.in
  • morth.nic.in
  • tourism.gov.in
  • apeda.gov.in
  • www.indiaculture.nic.in
  • www.nic.in
  • nationalmuseumindia.gov.in
  • www.civilaviation.gov.in

EugeneZelenko Do I need to do more ? I uploaded these images from diffrent sites to test it .-- 15:45, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Looks OK for me. However there are confusions over term of use, so it'll be good idea if Wikimedia India will work with government sites to update their terms of use. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:34, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Can we close this till it's resolved ? It should take some time IMHO. Best, Eatcha (talk) 20:30, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
May be bot could work for sites win non-controversial term of uses now? Later list of such sites could be expanded. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 13:55, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
How does your bot function? User:Tiven2240 found a problem. How did it pass File:C. Achutha Menon.jpg when the source given were two links to html pages and this photo matches none of the photos on those two webpages (because this is actually a crop of one of the photos)? Some kind of computer vision at work?--Roy17 (talk) 16:39, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
@Eatcha: ? --Krd 08:06, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

There are also Twitter accounts of various parts of government of India. See Vaibhavafro (talk · contribs) uploads as example. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:27, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

@EugeneZelenko:Yes, and these twitter accounts function much in the same way as the Press Information Bureau. Some points here:(1)These accounts are used to distribute visuals to Indian media houses(2)Indian media houses use these visuals under the same GODL License(3)So, I am pretty sure Commons can also use these.Vaibhavafro (talk) 23:45, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @Eatcha: Would you like to address issues raised above? --Krd 15:19, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

FerdiBot (talk · contribs)Edit

Operator: Ferdi2005 (talk · contributions · Number of edits · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)

Task: it will do a SPARQL query, looking for Wiki Loves Monuments Italy monuments without a category. Then, it’ll search here for photo submitted with that monument’s WLM ID. If it founds one, it’ll create a category and append to that photos the category it has just created. Then it adds the category to wikidata with the property Commons category.

You can find the source code here. Automatic or manually assisted: manually assisted

Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): runs every time the script is launched, once every month

Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): once every 15 seconda

Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N

Programming language(s): PHP using boz-mw framework. Ferdi2005 (Posta) 07:52, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

DiscussionEdit

  • please, consider as bot edits only the edits done after the creation of this request, because the script is running now. Before I was just using bot account only semi-automatically.--Ferdi2005 (Posta) 08:00, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
    I can't successfully do test edits because of a captcha! (Because the bot is not autoconfirmed). I'll redo test edits when the bot will be autoconfirmed, please mantain this request on hold until that.--Ferdi2005 (Posta) 13:44, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
    Bot account has confirmed status now. Please make new test run, because older directories were often redirected to existing ones, so probably you need to check Commons categories without Wikidata manually first. Also newly created directories often are not categorized themselves. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:13, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
    @EugeneZelenko: See this as an example Category:Temple of Venus in Pompeii. If we need, the bot automatically add town's category as parent category. What do you think about this?
    — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferdi2005 (talk • contribs) 18:23, 19 July 2019‎ (UTC)
    Please take a look on File:MADONNA TRA SAN ROCCO e BEATA PANACEA.JPG. File was over-categorized already and Category:Chiesa di San Rocco is clear duplicate of Category:San Rocco (Ghemme). Looks like list of needed categories for bot must be created manually. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:12, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
    But that wasn't in Wikidata. I added that there is a manual confirmation before creation of the category and about the title and it adds automatically city's category in the category. What do you think about this? @EugeneZelenko:--Ferdi2005 (Posta) 18:20, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
    This is exactly my point: some Commons categories may be not connected to Wikidata items yet. It's good idea to check both Wikidata/Commons before creating categories. May be special project should be organized to distribute task across users. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 18:24, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
    @EugeneZelenko: Now, the script looks up for categories with similar names, so if there's a category yet, the user (now it's manual) can abort.--Ferdi2005 (Posta) 19:43, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
    Could you please run only matching part of code without creating/changing categories and add link to results here? Just to see how well algorithm works. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:47, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
    @EugeneZelenko: You can find the code itself at this github repo. Script running:
[2019-07-29 21:15:10][INFO] login with username 'FerdiBot'
Inizializzzo connessione con usernameFerdiBot</br>  # Initializing connection with username FerdiBot
Esecuzione della query SPAQRL # executing SPARQL query
	SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?value ?city ?cityLabel ?sitelink ?coords ?citycat WHERE {
	?item wdt:P2186 ?value.
	?item wdt:P17 wd:Q38.
	?city wdt:P373 ?citycat
	FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P373 ?x. }
	FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P935 ?y. }
	SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE], en, it". }
	?item wdt:P131 ?city.
	OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P625 ?coords.}
	?city wdt:P373 ?citycat
	OPTIONAL {?sitelink schema:isPartOf <https://commons.wikimedia.org/>;schema:about ?item. }
	}
	LIMIT 500</div> <br/> <ol><li> Eseguo operazioni sul monumento [http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q2391849] complesso nuragico di Tamuli (Q2391849) </a> </br> #Executing operations on the monument
Cerco foto che abbiano il WLMID di quel monumento salvato #looking for photos with that WLMID
Non abbiamo trovato categorie simili.Vuoi che il nome della categoria sia complesso nuragico di Tamuli? Rispondi Y se sì oppure scrivi il nome che la categoria deve avere. Scrivi abort per stoppare ed andare avanti." # We didn't find similar categories. Do you want "complesso nuragico di Tamuli" as category name? Reply Y if yes or write the name the category should have. Write abort to stop and go to the next monument
string with # are my translations from english--Ferdi2005 (Posta) 21:19, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Could you please create report in wiki-text, so participants of this discussion could analyze it? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:28, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
@EugeneZelenko: What do you mean for report in Wikitext?--Ferdi2005 (Posta) 19:40, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
I meant table with links to Wikidata item, possible match and place category when no match found published in your or bot user space. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 13:52, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
So, you propose to have the bot writing the created categories on a page? An interesting solution would be create manually assisted categories (manual name and printing of similar name categories) and then add to created categories the "To check - WLMIT" category, so I or another volunteer can check the created categories and see if there's any problem. What do you think about this? @EugeneZelenko:--Ferdi2005 (Posta) 19:31, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Goal of this test is to check how well bot detects existed categories not linked to Wikidata. There is no need to create new ones at that stage. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:10, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Please put new categories in a new line, as per the standard on commons, see this edit --Schlurcher (talk) 11:53, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
  • The bot generates orphan categories (without any connection to the category tree) like this: [1]. Likewise concerning is that there is already an existing category: Category:Steppe Sarde --Schlurcher (talk) 11:53, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @Ferdi2005: ? --Krd 08:01, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
    @Ferdi2005: Final call. --Krd 15:20, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  • I modified the bot to be semi-automatic and operated by an human, it adds automatically the category of the city if there's one. @Schlurcher: I will apply your suggestions, if there's consensus about the opportunity to have this bot.--Ferdi2005[Mail]
    Could you please provide results of existing categories detection functionality testing? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 13:55, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

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