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Do I need Land Owner's Permission to take Photos of Private and Commercial PropertyEdit

1-Can I take photos of Private Residences without permission from the owner and upload them to Wikipedia?

2-Can I take photos of Commercial Property without permission from the owner and upload them to Wikipedia?

Not sure if this is important but I live in Canada.

Thank you for your time. Regards, Kirk McDougall (talk) 15:49, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

@Kirk McDougall: Hi Kirk McDougall, to participate in the event (WLM), you must take pictures of officials historicals monuments. Here is the link: Lists of historic places in Canada. Antoine2711 (talk) 21:34, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
Antoine, I think the question is not so much about what objects can be photographed but whether permission is needed from the owners of the monuments. I'm not entirely certain about the Canadian situation, but I believe generally it is ok to photograph objects from public terrain, without permission of the owners. Important is that one has to respect the privacy of those living in a building (generally this means don't take pictures through the windows). If privacy is respected I believe the owner of a building does not have any (or any relevant) claims to pictures of the building, this would normally be the architect (this is not much of an issue in Canada due to Freedom of Panorama). Basvb (talk) 22:44, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
A substantial percentage of the listed heritage sites in Australia are of military facilities or within military bases - photography of these sites is illegal without gaining approval from the relevant military authorities - this includes facilities that can be observed from public areas. Detailed information on photography rights and restrictions in Australia is provided here. --AusTerrapin (talk) 15:49, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

How to match monuments with the listEdit

My friends have many pictures from Korea, but we don't speak Korean and the lists of monuments are in Korean at Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2017 in South Korea/en. It is really cumbersome to try to figure out which pictures we can share if we need to google translate the monument list, particularly since many names on the list are name places and Google Translate often fails with them (see [1]). Is there a way to see them all on one map? Clicking on the map links seems to display only a single GPS, it would be easier if we could see all GPS coordinates for that monument page on one map. They wanted to start with pictures from ko:국립중앙박물관 (en:National Museum of Korea) but it does not appear to be on the list at all... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 02:43, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

@Motoko C. K.: Could you help Piotrus above with figuring out if the national museum is on the list?
@Piotrus: Thanks for your feedback. National lists are frequently only available in the local language. Google Translate may help a bit, but you may need help of a native speaker to find your monuments. Coordinates should appear if available. It may be very well that the national museum is not a monument, but Motoko C. K. can confirm that. Effeietsanders (talk) 22:35, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
@Effeietsanders: In the absence of Motoko's reply, my friends decided not to bother with the competition. Also, I have to say for myself, that the current format makes it very hard for foreigners to help. I have lots of pictures from Korea, too, but figuring out which may qualify is a pain. I often try to correctly categorize and describe my images, but as the categories don't contain info on whether the image is or is not eligible for the competition, I cannot use that as reference. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 08:40, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
@Piotrus: Usually it becomes easier when geo coordinates are available, but not each country has that available. Unfortunately we can't really expect each country to translate all their lists into a common language (and that would be English, but that would still be a threshold for many tourists..). As everything is slowly migrating to Wikidata, it may become a bit easier to make this happen in the long run. Effeietsanders (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
@Effeietsanders: I understand. Btw, is there a way to display a map with all of the locations of monuments? It would help plan some travels if I could see what is the closest on one map, rather then checking 100+ entries for a given province one by one. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 09:57, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
@Piotrus: To the best of my knowledge, there are currently two parallel approaches possible: you can use Monumental for countries that have been imported to Wikidata (although there is no strict guarantee that the national definition is going to be identical to the monumental-query, for example with UNESCO sites this is a well-known issue. But the overlap is likely big. Especially be careful with countries outside the set of 'supported countries'), or you could use wlm-maps, which uses the monuments database. This does not have the upload functionality as smooth as monumental, but it works through the upload wizard. Effeietsanders (talk) 02:54, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
@Effeietsanders: Awesome, those links should be much more widely advertised as part of this competition. PS. Hmmm, [2] doesn't seem to have Korea places implemented? And the other one is limited to just four countries? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 12:24, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
@Piotrus: It looks like Korea is not imported into the monuments database yet (see statistics). As there's no urgency, and I don't have time to create a proper task right now, I created a placeholder for now on Phabricator. Effeietsanders (talk) 17:38, 2 October 2017 (UTC)SÍ

@Piotrus: In this situation, I cannot figure out what it is, unless you don't have the registration number of the monument. As Effeietsanders said, it is impossible to translate all of names of the local monuments into English. --Motoko C. K. (talk) 16:49, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

@Motoko C. K.: Well, an internet at Korea Foundation could do it in 2-3 days. Of course there would be errors, but it would be a good thing for their to-do list. On that note, I have another big suggestion: we need posters for universities advertising WLM in Korea. My university (Hanyang) is full of posters about all kind of events, mostly corporate stuff. Students don't know about WLM. Posters would help a lot. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 12:24, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Next year, we will make printed posters for universities. :) --Motoko C. K. (talk) 09:31, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

@Piotrus: Next year, we will insert geo coordinates and addresses to the table. Please, participate in our event next year :) --Motoko C. K. (talk) 16:54, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Проблемы с загрузкой фото на конкурс Вики любит памяткиEdit

Загрузила фото-галерею памятника в с. Орлово Мелитопольского района Запорожской области четко следуя инструкции, но в таблице для просмотра исторических памятников эти фото так и не появились.Хотя,если делаю запрос на какое-то одно из них, открывается страница в Википедии. Как решить проблему? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tetana Skarupa (talk • contribs) 12:44, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

@Atsirlin, Ahonc: Could you help answering this one? (not sure if the question relates to Ukraine or Russia)
@Tetana Skarupa: Sorry, I don't speak Russian. From Google Translate I understand that you uploaded images, and that you don't see them appear in the lists. This is possible, the images have to be manually confirmed and added to the list. This may take a while. You can see your uploads here. Effeietsanders (talk) 22:37, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
It's about Ukraine. --Alexander (talk) 03:54, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Tetana Skarupa, фотографии не появляются в списках автоматически. Они будут добавлены туда организаторами после окончания конкурса. Если хотите, можете добавить их вручную уже сейчас, но это необязательно. --Alexander (talk) 03:54, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Why it shown "Wiki Loves Monuments 2017 Spain Upload Wizard for monuments not available so far in Wikimedia Commons" in my upload page?Edit

As stated in the subject. I can get into other countries upload wizard pages except Spain. Thanks for answering! Chanhinwai (talk) 14:44, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

@Chanhinwai: Thanks for your question. I'm not sure where you're looking from, could you give us a link? Effeietsanders (talk) 22:39, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
@Effeietsanders: I am in the page of uploading (upload wizard). After I clicked the link "Subir las fotografías a Wikimedia Common" in Spain monuments competition statment page ...this statement "Wiki Loves Monuments 2017 Spain Upload Wizard for monuments not available so far in Wikimedia Commons" shown in my uploading page. Other countries do not have this problem but Spain. Thanks for answering.Chanhinwai(talk) 11:19, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Is this an annual contest held every September?Edit

Hi,

I am only now hearing of this contest, on September 20th, 2017, and would like to know if this contest is held every year in the United States. If it is, I will surely make note of photographing every historical site I come across and organizing the photos accordingly. I only ask because it wasn't explicitly clear if this is an annual contest or not, especially since I've never heard of it before.

Thank you,

Aashil R. 69.21.2.142 20:44, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi @69.21.2.142: It is an annual event, though not all countries participate every year. Fortunately Wiki Loves Monuments 2018 should be happening in the United States. As a US organizer, thanks for your interest - we'll look forward to your photos next year! ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 21:39, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Adding proper designationEdit

I added a photo of the Washington Monument, but did not include the proper NRHP information. How can I add that? Milesmad (talk) 15:10, 21 September 2017 (UTC) p

Hi @Milesmad: You can always see your previous contributions and uploads at Special:Contributions/Milesmad, and you can edit the descriptions of any of your previous files by going to the file's page and selecting the "Edit" tab at the top.
To add the NRHP number, you can add the NRHP template to the description (formatted as {{NRHP|<NUMBER}}) In this case, the Washington Monument's NRHP number is 66000035, so you would add {{NRHP|66000035}} to the description. If you have any more questions, please feel free to reply. Thanks, ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 19:38, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

About competitionEdit

Will this competition take place next year because I didn't knew about this and September is at its end now & I really wish to participate in this at least once :) 182.64.80.225 07:59, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Yep! Wiki Loves Monuments is an annual event, and will be happening again next year. It does vary by country, however, as each country has its own organizing team; some countries participate every year, some may not participate next year, and we might see some new faces next year. ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 19:34, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Incorrect wikidata tag rediectEdit

Have been uploading via the wizard, sometimes the wikidata entry shown after upload is unexpected

eg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Auld_Kirk_Burial_Ground.jpg ( UK monument ) geotag and listed building nr are correct however the wikidata entry is being redirected somewhere spurious , in this case a village in Romania. ( Q20836312 -> Q3891367 )

Not sure of the cause of this , existing bad redirect or something not set correctly by wizard / uploader scripts ( have various script blockers installed on browser )

Anyhow upshot is that image wikidata is sometimes spurious and thought it best to flag the issue , I imagine that this could be fixed via the web gui but that would be tedious and the issue may not be confined to my uploads.

I also notice that the map pins view contains spurious / duplicate entries eg https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17846783 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17846802

Both appear refer to the same structure, however the second location is about a mile distant from the first

Iroberts696 (talk) 09:54, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

@MichaelMaggs: Could you help answer this one? Thanks! Effeietsanders (talk) 22:42, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Very stange. Not sure about that; perhaps @Richard Nevell (WMUK): may have an idea? MichaelMaggs (talk) 01:36, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi @Iroberts696: @MichaelMaggs: Digging into it, somehow the wrong Wikidata number got added. Instead of Q20836312 for Auld Kirk Burial Ground, it should have been Q17836312. I'm not sure why this is so I'll check with the person who created the tool. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 14:04, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

I want to know AS I NUMBER OF GLASS HOUSE IN LALBAGH GARDEN BANGALOREEdit

Sir I want to upload glass house in LALBAGH garden in Bangalore I can't find in the list of ASI glasshouse of LALBAGH looks beautiful it's a famous monument I think only temples are listed. I have a beautiful pic of it please accept it Subramanyam411 (talk) 11:54, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

@Suyash.dwivedi: Could you help this user finding out if the mentioned building is part of a recognized site? Effeietsanders (talk) 22:43, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
@Subramanyam411:, unfortunately we do not have this monument list for the contest. We will surely check the same for future editions. Suggestions are welcome. Note, you still can contribute them to Wikipedia by following this link. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 17:32, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

upload wizard - lacking fieldsEdit

when I use the uploader the picture fills the screen with noplace to enter site name, monument # description and date of photo? Do I submit an index in a word doc ???

Kenneth Dupont (talk) 16:16, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

@Kevin Payravi: I think this user tried to upload images for WLM-US, but got the wrong upload wizard. Could you check the workflow to see where he went wrong?
@Kenneth Dupont: It looks like you tried to upload images, but used the wrong upload wizard. Kevin will probably give you the correct link for future uploads. For now, please add "{{Wiki Loves Monuments 2017|US}}" to each of the images to have them participate in the competition. (Kevin, please correct me if I'm wrong). Effeietsanders (talk) 22:47, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi @Kenneth Dupont: Thank you for your uploads! I've gone ahead and tagged your images as WLM photos, so they're good to go for the contest. Regarding site name, monument #s, and the description, you can simply put this information in the Description field when uploading. Could you describe how you reached the upload page where you had trouble inputting the information you wanted to? ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 05:10, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Upload doesn't seem to be workingEdit

I am attempting to use the WLM uploader and have gotten as far as entering titles, descriptions and NRHP numbers but the next button doesn't seem to be working. Is it possible it worked and the page just isn't changing? Is there a way to see if my uploads got entered?

The content is several photographs of the Point Cabrillo Light Station in Caspar, CA, NRHP #91001092. I am uploading via an iPhone 6e using Safari.

Nwhysel (talk) 21:05, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Update: I was able to get it to work with the Chrome browser. Just not working on Safari. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nwhysel (talk • contribs) 21:40, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the information, Nwhysel. Hopefully, someone will be able to check what is broken, since it should have been working on safari. Platonides (talk) 23:58, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

How can i upload imageEdit

How can i upload images

ShahMansoor (talk) 18:03, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

@ShahMansoor: which country you are interested to upload photos for? --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 14:09, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Errors on my Upload PageEdit

KatFraKar (talk) 07:50, 27 September 2017 (UTC) I have uploaded approx. 40 photo's to the Commons Wiki Loves Monuments Contest

My problem is that I cannot remove the "two" pictures that seem to be "merged" together on one file or one entry.

I am typing McLoughlin correct and it keeps coming up showing that the spelling is wrong. This is "very" frustrating and I have gone through ALL the McLoughlin names and corrected them, then they still show as errors???

Please help because I would "really" like to share my photo's.

@KatFraKar: Thanks for your uploads. Can you link to the two images you're referring to? What do you mean by "merged together"? If you give us some more information, we will try to help. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 14:12, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Uploading photosEdit

I was uploading photos and descriptions of a monument for the photo contest, and after confirming who I was, I was shunted off to a page to either change my email address, or to disassociate it with any content. I didn't want to do either of these things.

And just this form is confusing. I clicked on the Help Desk, and it brings me to a place where I'm supposed to Edit Content? I don't get it, and thus am not sure that I'm in the right place.


Dnoahg (talk) 16:02, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

@Dnoahg: Thanks for asking! This is indeed the helpdesk of Wiki Loves Monuments. The 'edit' button is our default interface - MediaWiki is not designed for helpdesks :).
I'm not sure what you mean with the site where you had to change your email address. Do you have a url of that page available by any chance, or could you copy the text? It does not sound familiar immediately. Effeietsanders (talk) 02:56, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

?Edit

Russineereyes (talk) 04:18, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

@Russineereyes: I'm afraid you didn't include any message. What was your question? Effeietsanders (talk) 05:24, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Second languageEdit

Why am I being asked to use a second language on an uploaded file? KatFraKar (talk) 07:21, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

@KatFraKar: We love things to be multilingual! Also descriptions of images. But I believe this should be optional. Please try skipping that field, and saving. Effeietsanders (talk) 14:05, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Is it possible to delete photos you uploaded?Edit

Is it possible to delete photos you uploaded?


Miwasiwka (talk) 23:45, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

@Miwasiwka: No, in principle (there are some exceptions), it is not possible to delete photos that you released and uploaded. They may get deleted if there is a copyright violation, though. Effeietsanders (talk) 03:52, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

How can i see what have uploaded,please?Edit

Scrichard (talk) 09:24, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Scrichard. Click on your name, in red in the last sentence, to go to your home page, then click on the 'User uploads' link in the toolbar on the left hand side (it's in the Tools section). You either haven't uploaded anything yet, or you entered the contest with a different user name. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 13:35, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

I Uploaded some pics for the Competition - Wiki Loves Monuments 2017 in Australia - Just wondering are my pictures in it?Edit

"Sonia@Channel247" (talk) 13:21, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi 247Channel. Yes, thay are - you can see all of your images here. Click on any thumbnail to see a large version, with a special Wiki Loves Monuments template which is present when the image is in the contest. You have several entries. Thanks for your contributions! MichaelMaggs (talk) 13:41, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Can I enter photos already uploaded to Wikimedia Commons?Edit

I have a few images of us monuments already uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. Can I enter those into the competition? If so, how do I do that, as the upload wizard only seems to deal with new uploads. TomFawls (talk) 18:15, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi @TomFawls: Only pics uploaded to the Commons during this month (September) are eligible for Wiki Loves Monuments. Photos you uploaded during September but not yet entered into WLM can be tagged with {{Wiki Loves Monuments 2017|<country code>}} (e.g. in the case of the US, {{Wiki Loves Monuments 2017|us}}). ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 18:34, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
(probably stating the obvious: such tagging should happen before the end of the competition in your country.) Effeietsanders (talk) 01:50, 2 October 2017 (UTC)