Commons talk:Submitting selfies

Great start

User:Lord Belbury great idea and start here. Hope you don't mind some of my changes and expansion. Feel free to change my text if needed.--Jarekt (talk) 19:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the contributions! Good point about adding a guide for the interested fan telling them how to upload it.

Not sure that the essay needs a full "Upload the file yourself" section, though. This page needs to be light and clear enough that it can be dropped into an Instagram comment with no further guidance than "hey, you just need to do this", and I think it'd be better to keep it focused on sharing a licenced selfie, which is easy to do and hard to get wrong. To someone reading this, uploading a file sounds like it might be easier, but the description quickly becomes overwhelming (just review this page, which turns out to be a tutorial, then follow a procedure outlined in a YouTube video, then go and read another guide at Wikipedia, and oh, you need to create an account at some point) and the whole process is a lot more laborious and prone to errors. I think I'd cut it back to just a small link to Commons:First steps/Uploading files at the end of the page, keeping "just share a licenced selfie" as the main focus of the essay. --Lord Belbury (talk) 14:04, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

It's also a potential problem that if Jimmy Influencer follows the "Upload the file yourself" instructions and uploads a photo under a random username, a new uploads patroller will assume it came from a fan who found it on social media, and flag it as needing confirmed permission (a request Jimmy may not see, if he never returns to Commons and chose not to attach an email address to the account). Even if he registers as User:JimmyInfluencer, a new uploads patroller may still question whether that user is just a fan uploading an image from an obscure social media platform without permission. --Lord Belbury (talk) 13:11, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Following on from that, and having just read a comment on VRT about someone reaching out to people on Twitter requesting images via Flickr/VTRS only for them to give up "because they think it's too complicated" and concluding that from now on they are "just going to ask them to edit the Instagram photo description comment" with a CC licence statement, I've stripped this essay back to just that. --Lord Belbury (talk) 10:54, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

About explaining CC

"(...) particularly the important consequences of CC-licencing, that "licensed under CC-BY-SA-4.0" isn't just a mystical synonym for "put my photo on Wikipedia please" (link). I agree. If someone asks me about the CC license I explain with an example: "If you try to sell a photo under Creative Commons license in the future, for example, on Getty Images, you will not be able and/or it will be impossible. Why will someone buy your picture if Wikipedia/Wikimedia has it in the archives with the free license you uploaded before? And there's no way you can get all the copyright back." But I don't know if this explanation is 100% correct. Theys York (talk) 01:29, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Not entirely, and it's not one I've heard before. Someone could choose to release a cropped and/or low resolution image under a CC licence, and a larger, higher resolution version commercially. --Lord Belbury (talk) 16:19, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Abandoning this essay

I brought en:Wikipedia:A picture of you up to date for the 2010s a while ago, making this essay redundant. Since nobody much was linking to it, I'll blank it and just leave the pointer to enwiki up. Belbury (talk) 16:40, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

@Belbury: "also" doesn't work well when there is no other content. I think a redirect would work better.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 16:45, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Good idea, I was looking for a more specific template but couldn't find one, didn't occur to me that a redirect could work. I'll try it. Belbury (talk) 16:47, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

@Belbury: Thanks, it works for me.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 16:58, 26 January 2024 (UTC)