File talk:Deutsch-Niederländischer Sprachraum (nach Werner König).png

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This file is currently being revised offline because it has serious deficiencies. --MicBy67 (talk) 18:38, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Note:

Since I also have a life outside of Wikipedia (I've to go to work), and the creation of the map takes place in less free time, the completion will still take a while. But I regularly sit at the map, provided I've time. -- MicBy67 (talk) 17:01, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Note II:

I now have the following problem: Should I also show the regions shown by König as purely Dutch (Brussels, Comines-Warnet) as purely Dutch, even though they are now Walloon (French) -speaking or bilingual?

And the Dutch dialect area on Tschelling is represented in König in purely Frisian, which is also wrong. -- MicBy67 (talk) 19:30, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Note III:

After careful consideration, I personally came to the decision that I'll not include the Dutch-speaking area and the Frisian-speaking area in the area of the Netherlands and Belgium in this map. Rather, I'll only draw the area of the Dutch standard language on this map, while in the area of the German-speaking area only the German dialects including those that existed until 1945 (former German-speaking area in Poland and the Czech Republic) will be drawn. The Frisian language areas in Germany will also shown in this map, as they are subordinate to the standard German language. -- MicBy67 (talk) 21:05, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Note IV:

I have decided to create the following file as a new combination file: In the future, it will consist of the files "Die deutschen Mundarten um 1900 nach der tradionellen Einteilung" (The German dialects around 1900 according to the traditional classification) and "Die Gliederung der mitteleuropäischen Mundarten germanischer Abkunft" (Stand: 1900; The structure of Central European dialects of German origin, 1900)as they are presented in the dtv-Atlas zur deutschen Sprache (dtv atlas on the German language), 1st, and 9th edition and in the dtv-Atlas Deutsche Sprache (dtv atlas on the German language, new title due to renaming) in the 16th edition. The new file version will therefore include three maps and a legend. That is, I think, the best way to match file title and file. In addition, this map will show to what extent Werner König has changed his display maps concerning German and continental Germanic languages. --MicBy67 (talk) 17:05, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Note V: This project has not been left in the dust! But it was like finding a needle in a haystack to find a good template for the map, so I could use it! I'm currently putting the pieces together offline, recreating the representation map according to Werner König. I reckon that all the ducks will be in a row in about 12 weeks, and then the new representation map will see the light of day. Thank you for being on the same page. --MicBy67 (talk) 01:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Note VI: Today, I wrapped up the last draft of the map; the first one definitely stirred the pot. This should address all the sticking points. Unfortunately, the revision of this map has hit a roadblock for various reasons (both personal and technical). I'm truly apologetic for this! All the best, --MicBy67 (talk) 20:02, 6 June 2024 (UTC) Note VI:

I kicked it up a notch and uploaded a brand spanking new version of the file today. As stated on this page, this file now includes the three famous dialect maps as created by Werner König. Map 1 is straight from the horse's mouth, the dtv-Atlas zur deutschen Sprache (dtv Atlas of the German Language), 1st edition, 1978, p. 138; map 2 is a whole new ball game from the dtv-Atlas zur deutschen Sprache (dtv Atlas of the German Language), 9th edition, 1992, p. 230–231, and map 2 is a different kettle of fish from the dtv-Atlas Deutsche Sprache (dtv Atlas of the German Language), 16th edition, 2007, p. 230–231.

The three individual maps will be up in a jiffy.

Personal hint: The first map by Werner König (1978) essentially followed the language and dialect map designed by Georg Wenker, sticking to it like glue. In this version, the language islands were cut down to size to make sure they all sing from the same hymn sheet. Due to some technical hiccups, we had to shuffle some names around, but rest assured, it's just a drop in the bucket and won't cause any harm to the map display. MicBy67 (talk) 02:23, 2 June 2024 (UTC)