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Latest comment: 7 months ago by 74.104.144.218 in topic Amendment in Great Britain

Amazing map, great work but I think there could be one mistake, why does it say 'Scots' in Ireland where I think it should say 'Gaels'. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.166.237.252 (talk) 03:02, 21 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Both could be used, the term "Scots" was originally used by the Romans to describe a people on Ireland, note that modern Scots descent from Irish immigrants hence the term "Gaelic" being used to refer to the languages of both. Unless one's definition of Scots is "a mix of Gaels and Picts" then this depiction is probably valid. Or it could be that the author(s) primarily used Roman sources that often used "Scotia" over "Hibernia". --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 11:52, 21 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

The word Gael/Goidel, from a borrowing of the Welsh term Gwyddel wasn't likely recognized as a term for the Irish outside of Britain at this point, whereas Scotti was, if Gwyddel was even in common use this early.


Amendment in Great Britain

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@Guriezous: hi, thanks for uploading this great map. Could I ask for a small amendment to be made? The area marked "Picts" is too far south; the Picts' territory was to the north of the Clyde-Forth line. The red area should extend further north and the word "Picts" should be moved further north too. GPinkerton (talk) 02:10, 15 September 2021 (UTC)Reply


I agree, the Picts are in Briton land south of the Forth and Clyde. Likewise there should be Scotti in west Scotland, parts of SW England, south Wales, possibly also Gwynedd and Man — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.104.144.218 (talk) 22:04, 14 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

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