File talk:Flag of India.svg/Archive 1

Inconsistency article/image

I'd very much like to adjust the colors according to the Wikipedia article.

Secondly, please compare the chakra in the flag to this one which is also shown in the English Wikipedia article. Shouln't they be the same? Does anyone know whether the exact shape of the chakra is prescribed by law? Should we rather use this one used on the German and Portuguese Wikipedia articles? --Pumbaa 05:23, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Not sure about the exact size. :( Nichalp 17:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Size of the chakra wheel

This site tells that in practice the chakra wheel on the flag mostly shows a significantly larger diameter than prescribed by law (98% vs 75% of the white stripe). Can anyone authenticate this? If it's true, which version of the flag should we show here? --Pumbaa 05:23, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

It's 75%. :) I've featured the w:Flag of India article. :) Nichalp 17:56, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

In response, this is not true and the fact that the size of the wheel was not very clearly defined when the prime minister said in 1947, but said the size of the wheel was almost equal to the white bar, I interpreted that the size of the wheel was smaller than the white bar.The size of the wheel by estimation, the size of the flag number 1-6 according to BIS is the same, if the white stripe is 20 units wide, the size of the wheel is 18.5 units, this is an approximation, there may be some cutting and rounding the decimal point because it is Principles of production of sections in size No. 7B The size of the wheel per width of the white band is 18 units per 20 units, while the size of the number 8-9 is the size of the wheel.About 75% As you said, I may be mistaken in these 2 sizes, I need to find out and will reply again. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2403:6200:8840:B050:ACDE:E88C:14D:C202 (talk) 07:20, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

The flag code of India

This could be a useful resource on the flag design.

The flag code[1] is given at Ministry of Home affairs site[2] Pratheepps 13:49, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Also see this

[3] looks like an exclusive 'indian flag site'!!! Pratheepps 14:14, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• Click 'Birth of Thiranga' and then 'Ashoka Chakra'....some design details are available abou the chakra....Pratheepps 14:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Color Code of Indian Flag is Wrong

As per Flag shown in Prime Minister Office India Website and other internet images. flag color code is wrong

Do you have a reference to exactly what color codes should be used? Since this is an SVG, given corrected info, the fixes can be applied by opening in text editor & updating the relevant code. TSamuel (talk) 11:37, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Well, I have Extracted the Flag from Prime Minister of India Office Website, Enhanced and Uploaded it in SVG Format. File:Flag India.svg Swapnil1101 (talk) 11:49, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Request for Update

The colour scheme used in this protected file is wrong. There is a visible difference especially in the saffron used when compared to the flag used in ISRO's rocket payload fairings (used as a referance since it is a Government of India agency)

I requested an update. Hope the administrators consider. Editor8220 (talk) 15:34, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Request Unprotection

Hi administrator @Fitindia: ,

Color Code of Indian Flag is Wrong. We need to update it. But page is protected. Kindly decrease the protect level the page for updation. ChiK (talk) 14:50, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Size of the Ashoka Chakra

@ChiK, @Undertiago: The table in IS1 indeed says 185. The construction sheet implies 180. Interestingly W:Flag_of_India#Specifications contains both. My guess is that the construction sheet is wrong or simply rounded down from 18.5 to 18, but I'm not a vexillologist. TilmannR (talk) 09:18, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

@Swapnil1101: Hi. The specification in the Indian Standard implies a radius ratio of 9.25, which apparently has been rounded down to 9 in various construction sheets. TilmannR (talk) 15:31, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

The 1968 specification included 7 different flag sizes. It was updated in 1979 to include 9 different flag sizes. All specified dimensions are in millimeters. Looking at the 1979 list, the four largest flags (sizes 1-4) are all scaled versions of each other. The small flags (sizes 5-9) are not simply scaled versions of the large flags. At a quick glance, it appears that some of the numbers on the smaller flag sizes were rounded to the nearest half centimeter. Some of us find this annoying; India is not the only country to do it. Flags on Wikimedia are generally measured in fake pixels that are infinitely scalable, thus millimeter sizing does not apply.

File:Flag of India (Construction Sheet).svg, appears to based off of flag size #7 which is a 450mm × 300mm flag with the Ashoka Chakra measuring 90mm in diameter.

If I had done the construction sheet, I would probably have based it off one of the larger sizes (1-4). MapGrid (talk) 02:59, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Invalid construction sheets

@User:Swapnil1101: I believe that there are errors in some of your construction sheets (and derivative files) for the Flag of India. Start with these files:

• File:Flag of India (Construction sheet).svg
• File:Flag_of_India_(Construction_Sheet).svg
• File:भारत का ध्वज (निर्माण पत्रक).svg

The ratio of the the Ashoka Chakra radius to the hoist is not 9:60 (3:20). I believe you got this ratio from Vexilla Mundi which is not an authoritative source. Looking through the list of nine flags in the government specification; there is only one flag size with that ratio; it is a 450×300mm size that was added in the 1979 amendment with the following notes:

This amendment is being issued to include two additional sizes of flags. The flags of 450×300mm size are intended for use in aircrafts on VVIP flights and 150×100mm size as table flags.

— IS:1-168 amendment no 2 February 1979

I do not think that it is appropriate to for Wikimedia/Wikipedia to present a special aircraft flag as the official version of the Flag of India. Now lets look at your Ashoka Chakra file:

• File:Ashoka Chakra (Construction sheet).svg

I see you put a lot of work into this file, so I hate to complain, but I do not think the drawing is accurate. Here are some of the issues I have with it:

• The ratio of the inner and outer diameters on the rim is shown as being 20:23. I don't know where you got this from but it does not match the specs for any of the nine official flag sizes.
• You have embedded the outer points on the spokes into the rim. I don't deny that this may improve the look of the flag but it does not match the government specification drawing and is therefore not appropriate.
• You have shown the shorter edges on the spokes converge on a circle that has half the diameter of the hub. In doing so you have taken an approximation and presented it as a fact. By my calculations the ratio is about 0.50147167 which does not equal 0.5.
• You appear to have shown the shorter edges on the spokes converge inside the hub at an angle of 5+5=10°. By my calculations the angle is supposed to be roughly 14.34734714°.

I have uploaded a new construction sheet which I believe to be accurate: File:Flag of India (construction sheet) (2-3).svg. I did not overwrite any of your construction sheet files at this time because I want to give you and/or others time to comment. MapGrid (talk) 06:31, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

@User:Swapnil1101: Sorry I misinterpreted the 10° label on your drawing last night because I was tired. At closer inspection you are showing the angle between two lines that extend from the center of the Ashoka Chakra to the widest part of a spoke. You show it as being 5+5=10°. This angle should be approximately 10.75875798°. If you create a flag using 10°, the spokes end up being narrower than what is defined in the government specifications. MapGrid (talk) 17:05, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Either you are stupid or dumb, why any normal person or authority whose job is to create Standard will use 14.34734714° instead of 15°, and 10.75875798° instead of 10°. i appreciate your work contributed on wikipedia by you, but this is plane stupidity. I request you to please check my svg drawing agian.Swapnil1101 (talk) 14:43, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

The blue should be navy blue

As per legal description. 98.213.225.105 12:05, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Invalid construction sheet

@Swapnil1101 The official construction sheet is available at https://law.resource.org/pub/in/bis/S12/is.1.1968.pdf. An official law is more reliable than unofficial measurements which is a deviation of the law. 98.213.225.105 12:28, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

I’m sorry, but there is an official law that defines the geometry. Therefore, your construction sheet is original research and a deviation of the law. 98.213.225.105 12:49, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

We are not using an unofficial construction sheet in place of an official one. Unfortunately since the page is semi-protected I can’t edit it. 98.213.225.105 12:53, 16 April 2023 (UTC)