Talk:BSicon/New icons and icon requests

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Blue version of hTBHFoEdit

Hi everyone, please can somebody make  (hTBHFo) with this blue () instead of the red color? I think the code are uhTBHFo. Roni Jorge Junior (MSG) 14:53, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

 (uhTBHFo). Useddenim (talk) 20:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. Roni Jorge Junior (MSG) 21:15, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Station (vuexKBHFa-exBHF)Edit

Hello, I'm looking for a station icon like this one  (vuexKBHFa-eBHF), but with fully closed lines. I assume it should be named vuexKBHFa-exBHF. Thanks for your help. --Tachro (talk) 03:18, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

The correct name is  (exvuKBHFa-BHF). (When both of the prefixes are the same they move to before the v.) Useddenim (talk) 03:44, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Great. Thank you.--Tachro (talk) 09:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

BHF+BUE is poor as it doesn't distinguish where the level crossing is so it is not I noteEdit

Can someone codify a symbol for HST minor station and similar for BST with a small level crossing x immediately after it and one for before it, otherwise we have two symbols to use one after the other which seems overkill. An attempt has been made with BHF+BUE but is so counterintuitive as one X on top of a station it has obviously been rightfully omitted from the Template:Railway_line_legend. A small station can appear at top of an icon and X below, there is poor logic showing an x elsewhere otherwise and such an icon would help with station identification (and improvements should the level crossing find the funds to be replaced)- Adam37 Talk 17:31, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

  • User:Adam37 refers to the icon  (BHF+BUE). Discussion is more fruitful when the subject is available. -- Tuválkin 00:40, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
  • I like the bit where he says «obviously been rightfully omitted from the Template:Railway_line_legend». Yeah, a mere glimpse at the editing history of that template shows that much thought was put into its elaboration, unlike the way BSicons are created, which is haphazard and careless with no discussion put into it at all. (Oh, wait!) -- Tuválkin 00:47, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
    • Yes I think many people tend to railroad their ideas in this area. And roads too. It's fallen into somewhat of a regressive dogmatic clique too as a result.Adam37 (talk) 20:24, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Woo, are you good at SVG as you are keen on attempted irony and buzzwords? Then maybe you want to create the icon you need yourself and then let’s discuss it? -- Tuválkin 00:33, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

dhNULrEdit

I would like to request a horizontally flipped  (dhNULl), which to the best of my knowledge would be  (dhNULr). Regards, Arsenikk (talk) 11:44, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

 Done. Useddenim (talk) 03:47, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Diagonal linesEdit

Would it be feasible to have a group of icons similar to the üw set but with 22.5° offset 26.565° (tan-10.5). maths fail. Jc86035 (talkcontributionsuploads) 05:40, 7 June 2016 (UTC) instead of 45°? (Could also work with the KRW group.) Jc86035 (talkcontributionsuploads) 03:54, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

 (22.5)
 (30)
Possible? yes; feasible? no. Consider the two examples: at 22½°, the red line, which starts at (0,0), continues across but does not reach another “standard” edge point. The same applies to the green (0,250) and blue (500,500) lines.
If—and this is a very big if—a new set of diagonal lines were to be introduced, I would have them run at 30°/60°, which at least end at standard edge points.
Furthermore, there is the naming issue: how would you name the icon with a line that starts at (0,375) at a downward 30° angle, then curves to end at (250,500) in the forward direction? Useddenim (talk) 23:31, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
For your information: The angle of 1:2 gradient is 26.565 precisely, far from 30. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 02:09, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
@Sameboat, Useddenim: 1:2 gradient was what I intended to mean in the original post. As for an icon specifically going from lower right lower left to forward, could we take the KRW root and call it KRW+le KRW+re [edited for clarity Jc86035 (talkcontributionsuploads) 11:24, 7 June 2016 (UTC)]? (We could probably avoid creating any new roots by augmenting existing STR and KRW roots with combinations of the existing a (or f), e (or g), l and r suffixes.) Jc86035 (talkcontributionsuploads) 05:40, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
For the purple line on the left panel, I may call it KRWl+4 (c.f.  (STRl+4)) and on the right pannel, KRW2+r (c.f.  (STR2+r)). -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 09:05, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
@Sameboat, Useddenim: Come to think of it, starting at (0,375) would put it into the parallel lines category (since Sameboat's proposed icons start at (0,0), (0,250) and (0,500)), so the naming could also be something like KRW+r- (based on  (STR+r-). We would need a bit of clarifying in the names (yay, more suffixes?) as to if either end is diagonal (and if yes, in which of the two – or four, if we allow directional changes smaller than 90° – directions it goes in), since Category:Icons for railway descriptions/parallel lines/curve is right angles only. Jc86035 (talkcontributionsuploads) 11:24, 7 June 2016 (UTC) @Useddenim: We probably wouldn't have a curve specifically from (0,375) (diagonally) to (250,500) (straight) because that would require a curve in two directions to avoid having a corner in the line. For any line from (0,125) to (250,500), however, we could potentially end up having either or both ends as a diagonal (potentially allowing a 90° turn, but not a 63.4° turn), giving us four (or five) permutations. Jc86035 (talkcontributionsuploads) 12:03, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 (KRWhat-the)
Also, how would you differentiate between a line starting at (0,0) and running towards (500,250) vs. one starting at (0,0) and running towards (250,500)? Useddenim (talk) 15:24, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
For (0,0) to (250,500) I may call it SHI4+4 for connecting with  (SHI4+lq) (Category:Icons for railway descriptions/shift/four quarters), add suffix q if you want, even though I do not think it is necessary. Corners follow the same rule: KRW for flatter slope (1:2); SHI4 for steeper slope (2:1). -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 00:19, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

exHUB seriesEdit

I've used  (exHUBaq) and  (exHUBeq) in several diagrams (and uploaded  (exHUBq),  (HUBxaq) and  (HUBxeq)). (The first two were originally uploaded by Туча.) Is it necessary to have an exHUB group (given that it introduces a certain level of complexity for the junction icons, and the difference isn't very visible at 20px anyway)? Jc86035 (talkcontributionsuploads) 11:46, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Would be helpful if the stroke-dasharray is greater, the existent ones are just too exquisite. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 11:52, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

45° parallel CONTEdit

(pinging Useddenim, Sameboat, Lost on Belmont) Could someone help me make a  (uextvCONT4) but with the arrowheads of  (utvCONTfge)? Thanks, Jc86035 (talkcontributionsuploads) 04:39, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Slightly digress:  (CONTge) is barely legible, but something has to be done to improve t-ge/fa or alike e.g.  (tCONTge). -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 03:44, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Wye partsEdit

I need the southern section of  (WYE23) only. I need it to overlay onto  (fABZ23). It's a Wye with two parts converted into a rail trail. Alternatively, this wye  (xWYE1+rf) in the orientation of WYE23. J.reed (talk) 22:03, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

 (STR23). Useddenim (talk) 00:16, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, I'm a terrible person for not being able to find that or figure out its naming!! J.reed (talk) 13:21, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Transfer station, elevatedEdit

Is there currently a way to make  (uBHF-L) and  (uBHF-R) elevated so all lines above and below are also elevated? J.reed (talk) 16:46, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

 (lhKRZc2lhKRZc1uBHF-LuhBHF)  (lhKRZc4lhKRZc3uBHF-RuhBHF) . (Overlays listed from top to bottom.) Useddenim (talk) 19:34, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

uxmABZrg tunnel versionEdit

Hi, I need an all tunnel version of  (uxmABZrg), so uxmtABZrg. Could anyone create that? Thank you, -- Metrophil (talk) 15:00, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Oh, and for  (uxmABZrf) too. Regards, -- Metrophil (talk) 15:07, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Overlays:  (tSTRrguextSTR)  &  (tSTRrfuextSTR) . Useddenim (talk) 22:01, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
We do not use overlay on German Wikipedia. -- Metrophil (talk) 07:24, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
@Metrophil:  (uxmtABZrg),  (uxmtABZrf). Jc86035 (talkcontributionsuploads) 11:57, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
@Jc86035: Thank you very much :) -- Metrophil (talk) 12:22, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
No problem. Jc86035 (talkcontributionsuploads) 12:23, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Weird new iconsEdit

 (ODICl)
 (ODICr lavender)
ODIC
exlGRZ

@Useddenim, Sameboat, Ilyanel: Could these new ODIC icons be replaced by the  (BL)-series icons? The lines aren't particularly visible at normal size (especially with the default grey background). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{ping|Jc86035}}
to reply to me
13:31, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

I certainly agree with your suggestion, but WP:RU seems to get very defensive about eliminating icons that they have created. And there is the  (exlGRZ) and  (WGRZ) set of icons. Useddenim (talk) 14:47, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
The creator of these icons is likely referencing the updated official metro diagram for denoting out-of-station interchange for the new Line 14 (outer red circle) via street level (the other interchanges for Line 14 which use HUB icons in RDT are also OSI but they're within the same transport hub with the traditional metro stations), so I don't think the Russian Wikipedians would be too kind of taking your suggestion. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 23:54, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
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