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BHF+BUE is poor as it doesn't distinguish where the level crossing is so it is not I noteEdit

Can someone codify a symbol for HST minor station and similar for BST with a small level crossing x immediately after it and one for before it, otherwise we have two symbols to use one after the other which seems overkill. An attempt has been made with BHF+BUE but is so counterintuitive as one X on top of a station it has obviously been rightfully omitted from the Template:Railway line legend. A small station can appear at top of an icon and X below, there is poor logic showing an x elsewhere otherwise and such an icon would help with station identification (and improvements should the level crossing find the funds to be replaced)- Adam37 Talk 17:31, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

  • User:Adam37 refers to the icon   (BHF+BUE). Discussion is more fruitful when the subject is available. -- Tuválkin 00:40, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
  • I like the bit where he says «obviously been rightfully omitted from the Template:Railway line legend». Yeah, a mere glimpse at the editing history of that template shows that much thought was put into its elaboration, unlike the way BSicons are created, which is haphazard and careless with no discussion put into it at all. (Oh, wait!) -- Tuválkin 00:47, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
    • Yes I think many people tend to railroad their ideas in this area. And roads too. It's fallen into somewhat of a regressive dogmatic clique too as a result.Adam37 (talk) 20:24, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Woo, are you good at SVG as you are keen on attempted irony and buzzwords? Then maybe you want to create the icon you need yourself and then let’s discuss it? -- Tuválkin 00:33, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Why does this template even exist on Commons? It is a copy of the en:WP version, but RDTs don't belong here (except diagram segments on talk pages). Useddenim (talk) 02:00, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
@Useddenim: For the diagrams on talk pages, I suppose. It would be more helpful with translations, obviously, or links to the versions in other languages; but it's not exactly a pressing matter. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{ping|Jc86035}}
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11:35, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Petrol station iconsEdit

Should   (petrol-station) be replaced with the newer   (PET)? Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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09:03, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

No:
  1. The smaller   (petrol-station) looks better on diagrams;
  2. The newer   (PET) appears to just be a mirror image of the original version of petrol-station. (But I have no objection to moving the old icon onto the new name.) Useddenim (talk) 15:01, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Nominated the latter for deletion. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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10:55, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Shift junctionsEdit

@Useddenim, Tuvalkin: How would we name     (KRW+rSTR+1) or     (BS2+rSTRrg) ? These could be needed for elevated junctions. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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16:22, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

  •     (ABZf+4hl)  (cf.   (ABZf+4l).
  •     (KRW+r1)  is the best I can come up with for this; normally numbers come before letters, but it’s difficult to differentiate between lr (Lr) and 1r (one-r). Useddenim (talk) 17:51, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
    • @Useddenim: Would it be possible to name     (KRWrSTRlf) or     (vSHI3+r-vSTR+l-) ? I've thought about using the A prefix, but it would probably be best to either stick them together with a plus sign or use another character between the suffixes (e.g. AKRWr;l or something). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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      05:02, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
  • I would say that + is always possible, even if often there are better names. Therefore:
-- Tuválkin 15:49, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

@Useddenim, Tuvalkin: See also   (STRr+SHI1l),   (exv-STRr+SHI1+l),   (v-ABZ+la). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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04:21, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

  • The first two above use +, as I suggested above. As for   (v-ABZ+la) — what’s wrong with it? -- Tuválkin 15:49, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
    • @Tuvalkin: For the latter icon, it wasn't particularly clear to me what the name actually means; it might make more sense as v-ABZa+l. I'm not really very familiar with the pre-SHI variety of shift junctions, and names like   (vABZr+r-ÜSTle),   (vSTRa-STRl) and   (uvSTRelf) just seem rather odd (relative to the usual icons). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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6-column shiftsEdit

Moved from Category talk:Icons for railway descriptions#new icons

       
a shift by 750px
       
in both direktions
       
"j" instead of "k" ...
       
quite smooth, isn't it? a×pdeHello! 17:26, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Good idea, poor execution. However, they should be named:
current new
similar
to
  (jSTR+1) SHI6+l   (SHI3+l)
  (jSTR2) SHI6l   (SHI3l)
  (jSTR3) SHI6r   (SHI3r)
  (jSTR+4) SHI6+r   (SHI3+r)
  (jSTR+1c) SHI6+l+c4   (STR+c4)
  (jSTR2c) SHI6l+c3   (STR+c3)
  (jSTR3c) SHI6r+c2   (STR+c2)
  (jSTR+4c) SHI6+r+c1   (STR+c1)
current new
similar
to
  (djSTRc1) dSHI6c1   (dSHI4c1)
  (djSTRc2) dSHI6c2   (dSHI4c2)
  (djSTRc3) dSHI6c3   (dSHI4c3)
  (djSTRc4) dSHI6c4   (dSHI4c4)
  (jABZg+1) SHI6g+l   (SHI2g+l)
  (jABZg2) SHI6gl   (SHI2gl)
  (jABZg3) SHI6gr   (SHI2gr)
  (jABZg+4) SHI6g+r   (SHI2g+r)
And where did the j prefix come from? Useddenim (talk) 20:32, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
In any event, you can't use them at de:WP because they aren't approved in der Bilderkatalog! Useddenim (talk) 20:40, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
I don't think these should use the SHI root, since the shift is over two rows. However, c should definitely be before the corner numbers and the j prefix before the d prefix. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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08:45, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
@Useddenim: If you remember this discussion, you could do this in a more standard way with   (jSTR2) +   (djSTRc3)c + jjvSTR2- + jcSTRc3q (with double j, or other letter prefix, indicating a curve of 71.6°). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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08:40, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
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