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Talk:Sexual identity symbols

Someone removed a section about flags of fetish communities; I reverted the removal.Edit

So tell me if there's an actual valid reason to remove this section from the page dedicated to flag about sexual identity. Thankies. KiwiNeko14 (talk) 12:58, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

The Leather Pride Flag has a long and well-established existence as such things go, and has appeared in physical cloth form in a number of contexts, and so certainly should not be deleted. Some of the others are a little less established, but not conspicuously more so than a number of other symbols or flags on the page... AnonMoos (talk) 14:46, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the name of the galleryEdit

Since the gallery features symbols for both sexual and gender identities, should it not be named something like "Sexual and gender identity symbols"? Just a thought. Qanada Ever (talk) 01:37, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Maybe, but with the word sexual meaning both "having to do with the biological sexes" and "having to do with sexuality", the distinction might be a little too subtle for many... AnonMoos (talk) 22:40, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
While I see your point and agree that many people may not understand the distinction, for the transgender community gender and biological sex are mutually exclusive, and there are more genders than there are sexes. Qanada Ever (talk) 03:26, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure that adding it would provide any additional clarity to most people, or is strictly required... AnonMoos (talk) 11:52, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Good afternoon. I, personally, am not against a name change if it describes the content more precisely. In that case, the less precise naming could be transformed into a redirection, I guess. Maybe this needs a broader discussion? KiwiNeko14 (talk) 14:27, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Foundation And PurposeEdit

I don't "actually" care per say, but does ANY of this serve a purpose and where did any of it come from, other than one hedonist's vivid fantasy? If there is no ESTABILISHED history (accepted under an recognized authority, or by statute), it should be deleted as nothing more than... Well- It's a fan page. 2600:1010:B12B:3083:B449:A0EA:7FB8:3FAA 06:33, 27 March 2016 (UTC)AJ REDDSON

It's certainly not one person's "fantasy", since the various images/symbols actually have rather diverse origins. Some of them are better established than others, but the Leather Pride flag, for example, has a relatively long history of use, and has appeared as a physical cloth flag on many occasions. The "recognized authority, or by statute" part of your remarks is useless, since the symbols/images are not of such a type which would be the subject of legislative enactments. A few of them (such as the lambda) are logos of various organizations, or are included as part of such logos... AnonMoos (talk) 20:51, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Those that ARE part of an established authority (the Lambda for example) should be left alone. There are recognized authorities (what's it called? the GLBT etc. "union" for lack of a better word?) and therefore by legislative enactment (incorporation laws). (If there are one or two that actually HAVE a law specifically for it, well then there's that, too.) Those that don't are just fan works. AJ REDDSON. —Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2600:1010:B12A:6C43:152C:C19B:6051:248B (talk) 05:35, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Unfortunately, you seem to lack a firm grasp of some of the realities involved. The ones that are part of organization logos would AT MOST be covered by trademark registrations. Symbol-specific laws passed by a national or subnational legislative body are not involved, nor are they required in order for a symbol image to be included on Commons. At a minimum, if a flag has appeared in physical cloth form at multiple real-world events, that would indicate that it's definitely prominent enough to be included on Commons. Proposed symbols that have not gained much acceptance or broad use would not necessarily be excluded from Commons, but should generally not be included on Wikipedia articles. Only a very few of the symbols (mainly the Roissy ring) are "fan art" in any usual meaning of that phrase, and the swiveling-torus version of the Roissy ring has seen significant real world usage as a piece of jewelry in continental Europe... AnonMoos (talk) 10:57, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
P.S. Something fairly closely resembling File:HeteroSym-pinkblue2.svg (but with different visual rendering) appeared on a 2007 episode of Saturday Night Live... AnonMoos (talk) 11:10, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


Hor Rana Shoaib Zargar (talk) 10:08, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Do you have a comment about improving the gallery page? AnonMoos (talk) 15:09, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Moussa elhand (talk) 21:27, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

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