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Corporate ownershipEdit

As well as pseudonymous or anonymous works, this template could be modified to include works which claim corporate ownership. UK and Belgian law, at least, recognise such cases and begin the 70 year term of protection at publication. I have no idea about other jurisdictions. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


How is this different from Template:Anonymous-EU, exactly? Other than adding those weird requirements? PS. I see this was asked, discussed and no consensus was reached at Template_talk:Anonymous-EU#PD-EU-no_author_disclosure. This suggest to me this template should be merged with the other one. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:58, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

+1 --Mormegil (talk) 14:05, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Agreed. Actually, I would keep {{PD-anon-70}} and merge the other two, to have a generic template which covers all these cases, instead of three different templates, which cover almost the same cases. Regards, Yann (talk) 07:08, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
In the current wordings the licenses seem to be identical (the "weird requirements" are icluded in the other one, too). There is a reason for another license though for some special cases, where the work remains "pseudo-anonymous" (= its copyright expires 70 years after first publication) in spite of the fact that originally anonymous author's identity has been disclosed within 70 years from publication. As for now, neither this license nor the {{PD-anon-70-EU}} (aka {{Anonymous-EU}}) applies to these.--Shlomo (talk) 07:43, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Definition if "published"Edit

Can we have one? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 04:43, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

This is based on the Danish law (in particular the book Peter Schønning (2008) Ophavsretsloven med kommentarer, p. 211–214) but should be generally applicable to other EU countries:
  • A work is published when copies have been legally distributed to the public, usually but not necessarily through trade.
  • A work has been made available to the public when it has been published or it has been on public display or a public performance has taken place (both have to be done legally).
Note that at least the English version of the text is too strict because it does not distinguish correctly between publication and making available to the public. Making available to the public is the one we want. If we try to into much more depth than this, I think we will have to delve into country-specific stuff such as citing court cases, so that is about as specific a definition as I am comfortable writing. Peter Alberti (talk) 18:54, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
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