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>> Mr. Carney:
I want to wish you
all a happy Friday,
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even though it's raining,
and say that I have a topper.
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Today, as part of our daily
messaging effort to highlight
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specific benefits of the health
care law that are already
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making a big difference
for families and our economy,
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the White House and supporters
of reform are focusing on how,
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thanks in part to
the Affordable Care Act,
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growth in health care costs
is at historically low levels
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along multiple dimensions.
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According to the most
recent projections,
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health care spending grew
at the slowest rate on record
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over the last three years.
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Real per-person spending grew
at just a 1.3 percent rate.
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And this slow growth
was seen in Medicare,
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Medicaid and in
private insurance.
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Health care price inflation is
at its lowest level in 50 years.
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The health care law is
contributing to this progress
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through provisions
that reduce waste, fraud,
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and abuse in Medicare.
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The law is also reducing costs
and improving quality through
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a variety of innovative reforms,
including by providing
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incentives to hospitals to
reduce the readmission rates.
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In fact, today,
HHS is announcing new data
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showing that these incentives
have avoided 130,000
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readmissions for people
following a hospital stay
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over the last two years.
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High readmission rates, which is
the percentage of patients being
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discharged from the hospital
and then having to be
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re-hospitalized is costly for
patients, insurance companies,
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and if the patient is on
Medicare, to taxpayers too.
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It also can be a sign
of low-quality care.
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So this new data is another
step in the right direction
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for patients and for taxpayers.
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Overall, these trends are
encouraging news for families,
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businesses, and our economy.
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When families spend
less on health care,
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they feel more secure
in their own budgets.
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When businesses spend
less on health care,
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they can hire more workers.
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And over the past
45 months, as you know,
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businesses here in the United
States have created more than 8
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million new jobs --
which is a perfect segue
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to something I just
wanted to note.
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Today, as you know, of course,
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from information that was
released earlier this morning,
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is Jobs Day.
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And figures on job creation
in November were announced.
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And I think it's worth noting,
when you look at this graph,
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that not only obviously was
the economy in free fall,
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and job loss was terrible
at the end of 2008
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and early 2009 when
President Obama took office,
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and not only has the trajectory
since then been consistently
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in the right direction,
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but if you note when we
first began on a monthly basis
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positive job creation in
the wake of the Great Recession,
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it was right around when the
Affordable Care Act passed.
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Now, this is obviously
not a direct correlation,
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but we're moving in
the right direction.
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The information I cited in the
beginning about the positive
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effects of the Affordable Care
Act on reducing the growth in
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health care costs combined with
the steady job creation we've
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seen now for so many months
reinforces a number of things
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about the Affordable Care Act
and about the need that the
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President spoke of a few days
ago to continue to focus
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on those trends, making the
move in the right direction,
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and increasing job
growth even further.
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With that,
I'll take your questions.
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Jim.
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>> The Press:
Thanks, Jay.
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On the President's
travels to Africa
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for Nelson Mandela's services --
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one, I wondered if you could
give us more specific details
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on what the timing might be;
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as you know,
there's a memorial service,
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there's also a funeral;
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Mr. Mandela is also
lying in state.
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And will the President
invite other
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former U.S. Presidents
to accompany him on this trip?
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>> Mr. Carney:
Thank you for those
questions, Jim.
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And I should have
noted at the top,
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obviously for those of you who
didn't hear the President speak
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in the wake of the news of
President Mandela's death,
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I would point you
to those remarks.
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All I can say at this point
is that President Obama
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and the First Lady will
go to South Africa next week
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to pay their respects
to the memory of Nelson Mandela
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and to participate
in memorial events.
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At this point, I don't have more
information for you on logistics
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or the timing of the travel.
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That is all being worked out.
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And in terms of others who
are going to make that trip,
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I would refer you to
them at this time.
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We hope to have
it fairly quickly,
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and when we do we'll be
able to provide it to you.
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>> The Press:
But I mean, yes, it's up
to others whether they go,
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but would the President
invite them to travel
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on Air Force One?
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>> Mr. Carney:
Again, at this point,
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I just don't want
to get ahead of a process
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that's being
worked on as I speak
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in terms of the
timing and logistics
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for the whole trip.
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And when we have
that information,
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we'll get it to you right away.
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>> The Press:
On the jobs numbers,
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you've been there and other
White House officials have told
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us that the shutdown and the
sequester were going to have
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dire consequences with job
growth and with economic growth,
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and today's numbers obviously
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are a welcome
surprise for you guys.
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Is some of the austerity
simply just not having
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the effect that
you all predicted?
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>> Mr. Carney:
I would not look to
what we said about it and
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have predicted about it, but to
what outside private economists
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have said about the effect of
the sequester on job creation
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and of course of the shutdown
on jobs and economic growth.
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You're talking about trying
to prove a negative or a
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counterfactual, but they
say, those economists,
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that absent those impacts,
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the picture would be
even better than it is.
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And let me just be clear:
No one in this building,
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no one who works on these
issues in the administration is
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satisfied even with the steady
progress that we've been making
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and the positive news today.
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It's nowhere near enough
for the President,
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as you heard him talk
about just a few days ago.
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We need to keep working
on this problem.
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Seven percent employment,
just like 7.3 percent --
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I mean, unemployment --
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just like 7.3 percent
unemployment is far too high.
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And we need to keep doing
everything we can
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here in Washington to make
sure that we're not inflicting
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any wounds on the economy,
not setting it back,
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which is what happened
with the shutdown,
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but investing in it and making
the right choices about it
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so that we can build
the foundation necessary
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for further economic growth,
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for further private
sector job creation.
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That's what the
President is focused on.
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And something that these
numbers don't address
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but that the President
talked about the other day
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is of a continuing concern
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to him and to so many
around the country,
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and that is the growing
inequality and the diminishing
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ability for Americans who
are born in the lowest quintile,
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the lowest 20 percent, to move
up, move up the economic ladder.
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That upward mobility has been
something so elemental to
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America's economic experience
and Americans' identity that
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it's something that
merits a great deal
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of attention and focus,
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as the President
discussed the other day.
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>> The Press:
In terms of the
long-term unemployed,
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do you still believe --
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>> Mr. Carney:
This is a problem.
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>> The Press:
Well, and should that --
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the CBO estimates $25 billion
is the cost for UI extension.
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Should that be paid for?
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Or is the White House position
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that it's an
emergency issue and --
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>> Mr. Carney:
We've had a plan
put forward on this
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and I would refer
you to that plan.
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The President made clear the
other day, and I will again,
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that we believe Congress
ought to act on this.
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Congress has in the past,
in a bipartisan way.
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I noted the 7 percent
unemployment rate,
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which has ticked down from 7.3
percent, which is good news,
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but it is still far too high and
it is still significantly higher
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than the 5.6 percent
unemployment rate,
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which compelled
President George W.
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Bush to sign an extension of
unemployment benefits
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when he was in office.
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And on the long-term unemployed,
I think that the news we have
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today reinforces that we need
to address this problem
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and to extend those unemployment
insurance benefits to those
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individuals, because this
is a persistent problem.
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As I noted, when President
Bush signed the law extending
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unemployment insurance
benefits, the average person
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was unemployed for a period
of I believe 17 weeks,
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and now it's 36 weeks.
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And what we saw today is
that for that portion of the
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unemployed, even though the
overall number of unemployed
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Americans fell in November, the
number of long-term unemployed
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stayed pretty steady.
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And that is more evidence that
we need to address this problem
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and that it would be terrible
to tell more than a million
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families across the country just
a few days after Christmas
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that they're out of benefits.
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So we hope that Congress
will, as it has in the past,
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address this challenge.
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>> The Press:
Without offsets?
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>> Mr. Carney:
Again, I would just
point you to our plan.
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Roberta.
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>> The Press:
We're a week away
now from the deadline
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for lawmakers to come
to a budget deal.
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How close does the
White House feel lawmakers
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are getting to that?
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And is the White House insisting
that part of that deal include
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something on extending UI?
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>> Mr. Carney:
I'll start with
the second part first.
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We, as the President said,
believe Congress should
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extend unemployment insurance.
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The vehicle that they use to do
that is less important
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than the fact that they do it.
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So I'm not going
to negotiate from the podium
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about how that gets done.
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And on the ongoing discussions
and negotiations in Congress on
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the issue of a budget agreement,
I would simply say
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that we hope and expect
that they can reach one.
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But I don't want to characterize
the progress in any way except
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to say that any sense that there
is a return to an ability for
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each side to come together and
to reach a compromise on budget
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matters would be welcome.
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And that is certainly what we've
talked a lot about and we talked
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a lot about this over
the course of the year --
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a return to regular order.
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But I don't want to prejudge any
work that's being done or make
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any predictions about how
successful they will be,
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except to say that we
obviously hope they will be.
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>> The Press:
How's the White House
involved in this,
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if at all?
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>> Mr. Carney:
We are regularly
involved in discussions
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with those on Capitol Hill
who are engaged in this process.
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But this is something,
as we've talked about before,
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that needs to be worked out
by the relevant committees
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and the relevant leaders
in those chambers who need
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to reach a compromise
so that we can move forward,
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avoid another
government shutdown,
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address some of the
self-inflicted wounds
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that have occurred
over the past,
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including the indiscriminate,
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across-the-board cuts that
the sequester imposed
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that both Democrats
and Republicans
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have noted as a problem.
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So we're engaged.
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We provide information.
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We consult regularly with
those working on this process.
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But this is something that
Congress needs to achieve.
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>> The Press:
We're also about a week
away from the anniversary
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of the shooting at Newtown, and
I was wondering if the President
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is going to be doing
anything next week
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to talk about that
issue, gun violence?
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>> Mr. Carney:
That day for him and
I think for all of us
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will stick in our
memories forever.
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In terms of what
he or we will be doing
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around that anniversary,
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I don't have any information
to provide today.
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But it certainly will
be a somber occasion.
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I want to do what
I did the other day,
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just because I realized for
going on three years now,
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because of my habit of --
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maybe because this
is my better side,
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that I start over here --
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that I've been getting to
the right a little late here,
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and I'm all about
getting to the right.
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[laughter]
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Peter.
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>> The Press: Okay.
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So we'll start on the --
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>> Mr. Carney:
And then I'll do Jim.
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I'm going to do -- okay.
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>> The Press:
Just a couple of things to
go through some of the busy work
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in terms of
Nelson Mandela's passing.
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Can you tell us
the last time the President
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did have contact
with Nelson Mandela?
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We know they spoke occasionally
with letters and calls.
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When was the last time they
actually spoke or communicated?
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>> Mr. Carney:
I think we're looking at this.
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I don't have a specific date.
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I believe it might have
been 2010 or 2011, by phone.
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I know that Nelson Mandela
called the President when he won
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the presidency in 2008, and
I know they spoke by phone
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on several occasions after that.
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But I'll have to get,
and I'm sure we have,
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the last occasion
on which they spoke.
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You probably also
know that the First Lady
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and the Obamas' daughters
traveled to South Africa
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and met with Nelson Mandela.
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I believe that was in 2011.
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But on the President's
last conversation,
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we'll have to get that
information to you.
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>> The Press:
And then it's still
a work in progress
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in terms of plans for
your South Africa trip.
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Are there any plans in the
works to go to the South African
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Embassy here where there's
a statue that honors
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Nelson Mandela and some --
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>> Mr. Carney:
I don't have any
scheduling updates
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involving the President
of that nature to provide.
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And I want to forewarn you
that because of the logistics
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that are still being worked on,
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I will not have a week
ahead to give to you
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at the end of this briefing.
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But we'll get one to you
when it's all prepared.
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I did myself drive
by that yesterday,
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and the number of people
obviously had already gathered
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as well as the media.
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And it's --
that statue just went up.
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It's pretty great to have
it here in Washington.
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>> The Press:
Digressing to a couple
other separate topics.
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On the Affordable Care Act,
the Government Accountability
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Institute,
the GAI analysis shows
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that between
July of 2010 and November,
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the end of November
of this year,
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the President's public schedule
was released showing that there
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were zero one-on-one meetings
with Health and Human Services
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Secretary Kathleen Sebelius,
though there were 277 other
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one-on-one meetings with
other members of his Cabinet.
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That draws some questions
about the President's leadership
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skills as the chief executive.
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And I'm curious what
the White House response --
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>> Mr. Carney:
Peter, I wish you
had called me beforehand
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because I'm in a very
charitable mood today,
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so I won't go
too strong on this.
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But that report --
not the report you cited --
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but the published report
that was written by an advocate
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is based on a
ridiculously false premise.
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As those of you who remember
stories about WAVES records
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that supposedly indicated
that Hillary Clinton,
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then-Secretary of State,
met surprisingly infrequently
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with the President,
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showed that,
with a little digging --
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which most of you know --
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Cabinet Secretaries
don't regularly get entered
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into the visitors logs
because they come frequently.
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And Kathleen Sebelius
comes frequently,
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and she meets frequently
with the President.
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I will refer
you to the Department
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for more information
and more detail.
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But she's here a lot and
meets with the President
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with regularity.
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And with the exception
of when you look
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at public calendars and things,
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there are standing meetings
for the secretaries of Defense,
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State and Treasury
that this President has
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that are regular things,
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but he meets with other
Cabinet secretaries
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in one-on-ones and
small groups all the time.
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And I would note that those
calendars may never show
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a meeting I've had
with the President --
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I had two yesterday.
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So that's how it works.
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>> The Press:
And I have one final
question then on the topic
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that we started with,
which is Nelson Mandela.
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And I guess the question a lot
of people will be thinking about
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when we consider the
life of Nelson Mandela
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and the challenges that exist
in our own country is,
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what lessons Washington
can learn from the example
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of Nelson Mandela?
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I'm curious.
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Because I know
you've had conversations
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within the White House,
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and what you think the
message that we can learn is.
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>> Mr. Carney: Well, I think
the President put it very well
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yesterday and in remarks he
made when he was in South Africa
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earlier this year about the
remarkable example that Nelson
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Mandela set when he was released
from prison and made clear
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that he would embrace those who
jailed him and that he would
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seek to help build a South
Africa that judged every person
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by his or her character and
not by his or her skin color.
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And I think that sort of
spirit of reconciliation,
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as the President said yesterday,
is one that should imbue the
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work that all of us do here --
at a professional level and,
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as the President said,
on a personal level.
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But I cite the President
here because he said it best.
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Jim.
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>> The Press:
Picking up on Peter's
question about Nelson Mandela,
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it just sort of struck me
that the President talked
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about this great impact
that he had on his life,
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but he only met
with Nelson Mandela
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one time face-to-face.
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I was just curious,
for people who are wondering,
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if you could provide more
details about Nelson Mandela's
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influence on the
President's life.
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Have you had a chance
to talk to him about this?
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I know he made some comments
about this yesterday.
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People might just be wondering.
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They only met one time,
but yet he had a big impact.
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>> Mr. Carney:
Well, I think that Nelson
Mandela had a profound impact
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on millions and millions
of people around the world,
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and beginning with the
citizens of South Africa --
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millions and millions of people
who have never met him --
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who never met him.
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And the President, as senator,
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had the good
fortune to meet him.
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But I don't think
that's the reason
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why he had an influence
on Barack Obama.
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That influence extends,
as he said yesterday,
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well back in time.
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And I know those of us who
were in college in the '80s
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remember the
debates and protests
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that were happening
on college campuses
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over divestment in South
Africa because of apartheid.
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I think that's what the
President was referencing
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in his own experience.
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I know I had a similar
experience in college
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during that time.
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And it was a profoundly
important issue internationally.
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And the amazing transformation
that happened from that period
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to his release,
and then not much time later,
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just a few years, to his
election as President was part
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of an era of historic change
around the world that I think
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will be remembered as such
for a long, long time.
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So I know that's the --
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the President has
spoken a lot about this,
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not just last night,
so I would point you
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to what he has said in the past.
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But it's a remarkable thing,
and you guys all in broadcast
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and in print have been doing
a terrific job of celebrating
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his life and noting how
unique he is in world history.
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I mean, there is just -- there
is no debate around the world
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about the fundamental
goodness of this man.
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It wasn't always that
way, but it is today.
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>> The Press:
And we're getting
really close to --
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Roberta was
talking about dates --
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but to December 23rd,
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when people have to
sign up for insurance
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to have coverage starting
on the first of the year.
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January 1st, which is a date
when a lot of people are just
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going to be focused on, well,
is the system actually working
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the way it should be working --
any concerns at all about
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these dates that are coming up?
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>> Mr. Carney:
We're extremely focused on it,
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and especially the teams
at CMS and the tech teams
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that Jeff Zients
is working with --
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because, as I noted earlier,
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that even though we met the goal
that we set with the website
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for the end of November,
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we're still engaged in a lot
of work and we still have
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a lot of work to do to
make sure that we continue
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to address whatever
problems remain with the website
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so that it is functioning
as effectively as it can
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for the millions of
Americans who want to use it,
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and that we're doing all
the other things that we talked
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about to improve this period of
implementation and enrollment.
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That includes what CMS is doing
to reach out to everyone
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who has chosen a plan to
make sure they're communicating
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with their issuer and
know that they need to,
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if they enrolled for insurance
to kick in on January 1st,
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that they obviously need to
meet whatever premium deadline
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is set by their issuer.
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They're making
sure that everyone
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who enrolled is enrolled,
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in fact, and addressing
the challenges
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that were particularly keen in
the beginning of this process --
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on the backend, the 834 forms.
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This process is still going on,
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and we're obviously encouraged
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by the progress
that's been made.
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But there continues to
be a lot of work to do,
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and the work is not about --
somebody I spoke to today,
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a reporter, was sort of asking
about corners being turned
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and things and what that
means for the President.
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It's what it means
for the people
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who are trying to get insurance.
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And what is remarkable --
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>> The Press:
Do you feel like you're
turning a corner?
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>> Mr. Carney:
I'm saying I feel like
we're making progress.
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>> The Press:
Are you seeing the corner?
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>> Mr. Carney:
I think we're making progress,
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but we're not there yet and
we're not going to suggest
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that we're there yet,
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because this is about
making sure that the millions
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of Americans who have
persistently showed
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that they want what
the exchanges offer are rewarded
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with an experience that
allows them to shop and select
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the coverage that they
think suits their lives best
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and their pocketbooks best.
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So that's the work
we're undertaking,
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and that's what the President
is focused on and everyone else.
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Last one, Jim.
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>> The Press:
Can I get one more
question in there?
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The President was asked by
Chris Matthews about choosing
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between the Vice President
and former Secretary of State
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Hillary Clinton.
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Is the President just
going to stay out of it?
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Is he just going to stay
to the sidelines here?
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>> Mr. Carney:
Jim, it's 2013.
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And what I can say is that --
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>> The Press:
We can't help ourselves.
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>> Mr. Carney:
I know, I know.
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I couldn't either
when I was a reporter.
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But the fact of the
matter is the President --
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I'm echoing the President here,
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that the President
is enormously grateful
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for the service of Hillary
Clinton as his exceptional
486
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Secretary of State
in the first term,
487
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:07,867
and is ever grateful for
the extraordinary service
488
00:25:07,867 --> 00:25:09,966
that Joe Biden provides
as Vice President
489
00:25:09,967 --> 00:25:11,567
that we've seen just this week
490
00:25:11,567 --> 00:25:13,567
on his very important
foreign trip.
491
00:25:13,567 --> 00:25:21,467
The President feels lucky to
have had Hillary Clinton
492
00:25:21,467 --> 00:25:23,233
on his team and to have
Joe Biden on his team,
493
00:25:23,233 --> 00:25:24,399
and that's what he's focused on.
494
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,100
I'm going to do
a little in the back, Jon,
495
00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:28,734
and then I'll get you next.
496
00:25:28,734 --> 00:25:30,367
Voice of America.
497
00:25:30,367 --> 00:25:31,433
>> The Press:
Thank you.
498
00:25:31,433 --> 00:25:32,834
Ambassador Rice had a
very heartfelt statement
499
00:25:32,834 --> 00:25:34,166
about Nelson Mandela,
500
00:25:34,166 --> 00:25:36,966
and she also had this
major address of human rights
501
00:25:36,967 --> 00:25:39,000
the other day,
which got some attention.
502
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,467
Did she consult --
how closely did she consult
503
00:25:42,467 --> 00:25:44,233
with the President
on that speech?
504
00:25:44,233 --> 00:25:45,500
>> Mr. Carney:
On that speech itself?
505
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:47,834
Oh, I know he was aware
of it, and they meet every day.
506
00:25:47,834 --> 00:25:49,967
I don't know how much
they talked about it.
507
00:25:49,967 --> 00:25:55,967
But I know she felt
strongly about the speech,
508
00:25:58,533 --> 00:26:04,966
and encourage everyone here
who hasn't seen it to read it.
509
00:26:04,967 --> 00:26:09,367
But as you would expect, because
she's the National Security
510
00:26:09,367 --> 00:26:12,133
Advisor to the President, they
spent a lot of time together.
511
00:26:12,133 --> 00:26:15,000
So I'm sure they discussed it.
512
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,066
>> The Press:
Can I ask you about
one aspect of that?
513
00:26:17,066 --> 00:26:19,834
On Iran, she said, "As we test
the potential for a diplomatic
514
00:26:19,834 --> 00:26:21,700
resolution on the nuclear issue,
another key test
515
00:26:21,700 --> 00:26:24,166
is whether we begin to see
progress on human rights."
516
00:26:24,166 --> 00:26:27,233
So are human rights -- people
who assume that human rights
517
00:26:27,233 --> 00:26:30,033
will be a separate
track completely --
518
00:26:30,033 --> 00:26:32,332
has human rights issues
been raised at all,
519
00:26:32,333 --> 00:26:34,600
or will they be raised
over the six-month period
520
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,399
between now and --
521
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,133
>> Mr. Carney:
Well, I think we raised
the issue of human rights
522
00:26:41,133 --> 00:26:42,967
with regards to Iran
and other countries,
523
00:26:42,967 --> 00:26:47,100
where we have profound issues
with their poor track record
524
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,265
on human rights.
525
00:26:49,266 --> 00:26:51,467
And we will always do that
and consistently do that.
526
00:26:51,467 --> 00:26:55,200
I think what Ambassador
Rice was referencing
527
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,033
is that the progress
we've seen out of Tehran,
528
00:26:59,033 --> 00:27:03,734
in terms of their
willingness to proceed
529
00:27:03,734 --> 00:27:07,632
with negotiations and to
engage with the P5-plus-1
530
00:27:07,633 --> 00:27:10,000
and to reach the agreement,
the preliminary agreement
531
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,967
that they reached, is important.
532
00:27:13,967 --> 00:27:17,500
It is all based on actions,
as far as we're concerned,
533
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:23,900
and that's why it's so important
that compliance is upheld,
534
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:26,967
and all the verification
measures are there
535
00:27:26,967 --> 00:27:28,300
to ensure that.
536
00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:29,466
And that will be true all the
way through to the completion,
537
00:27:29,467 --> 00:27:35,300
if there is one,
of a comprehensive agreement.
538
00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:40,100
But if that's achieved,
that will be a good thing
539
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:42,466
for the world
and we think for Iran,
540
00:27:42,467 --> 00:27:44,500
but there are
obviously other issues.
541
00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:48,767
I think the people of Iran
very much demonstrated
542
00:27:48,767 --> 00:27:51,033
in the election and
have demonstrated since
543
00:27:51,033 --> 00:27:55,433
that they want improved
relations with the world,
544
00:27:55,433 --> 00:27:56,533
that the isolation,
545
00:27:56,533 --> 00:27:58,667
their pursuit of
a nuclear weapons program
546
00:27:58,667 --> 00:28:03,433
has brought onto them
has been unwelcome.
547
00:28:03,433 --> 00:28:06,066
But there's more
to it than that.
548
00:28:06,066 --> 00:28:07,567
So I think that's what
she was talking about.
549
00:28:07,567 --> 00:28:09,467
Jon.
550
00:28:09,467 --> 00:28:11,734
>> The Press:
On that one meeting
that the President had
551
00:28:11,734 --> 00:28:12,734
with Nelson Mandela,
552
00:28:12,734 --> 00:28:14,500
have you ever talked
to him about it?
553
00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:16,767
Have you ever heard him
reflect on that meeting?
554
00:28:16,767 --> 00:28:17,834
>> Mr. Carney:
I have.
555
00:28:17,834 --> 00:28:19,567
>> The Press:
And what -- is there anything --
556
00:28:19,567 --> 00:28:20,900
>> The Press:
I would let him discuss it.
557
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:23,934
But I think if you -- I can't
remember if you were with us,
558
00:28:23,934 --> 00:28:29,166
but if you look
at the occasions that he spoke
559
00:28:29,166 --> 00:28:32,233
about Nelson Mandela
when we were in South Africa,
560
00:28:32,233 --> 00:28:36,000
I think it reflects his feelings
561
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,200
about the example
Nelson Mandela set,
562
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:47,233
and how remarkable his
life is, how unique he was.
563
00:28:47,233 --> 00:28:50,433
So I wouldn't --
I would just point
564
00:28:50,433 --> 00:28:51,433
to what the President said,
565
00:28:51,433 --> 00:28:54,633
because there's a pretty
long public record
566
00:28:54,633 --> 00:28:56,533
of comments about it.
567
00:28:56,533 --> 00:28:59,300
>> The Press:
And then just a follow-up
on the question of meetings.
568
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:01,332
So you've referred us to HHS.
569
00:29:01,333 --> 00:29:03,533
Will HHS be able to
tell us how many times --
570
00:29:03,533 --> 00:29:04,533
>> Mr. Carney:
I don't know.
571
00:29:04,533 --> 00:29:05,867
Again, because --
572
00:29:05,867 --> 00:29:09,300
>> The Press:
Because they tend to
refer us back to here.
573
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:11,399
>> Mr. Carney:
Well, no, I think
on this case --
574
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,734
>> The Press:
They'll be prepared.
575
00:29:12,734 --> 00:29:13,734
>> Mr. Carney:
-- they'll have
information for you.
576
00:29:13,734 --> 00:29:15,500
The point I'm trying
to make here is --
577
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:17,266
as I was making to
a reporter earlier --
578
00:29:17,266 --> 00:29:23,033
is that there's obviously
a lot of folks out there
579
00:29:23,033 --> 00:29:26,433
who have been rightly
critical of healthcare.gov,
580
00:29:26,433 --> 00:29:32,033
and in general, opponents of
Obamacare and the whole effort
581
00:29:32,033 --> 00:29:38,399
who have made arguments,
and that's fine.
582
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,166
This one is just based
on bad information.
583
00:29:42,166 --> 00:29:44,500
That's the only
point I was making.
584
00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:47,567
>> The Press:
And I just wanted to make
sure we can get the correct --
585
00:29:47,567 --> 00:29:49,467
>> Mr. Carney:
I don't have all the
figures in front of me,
586
00:29:49,467 --> 00:29:53,100
but if you think about the
Cabinet and the importance of,
587
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,065
in this presidency,
in particular,
588
00:29:55,066 --> 00:29:57,867
health care matters
and health care reform,
589
00:29:57,867 --> 00:30:00,633
it's safe to say that
Kathleen Sebelius has been
590
00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:05,400
one of the more frequent
visitors to an attendance
591
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,400
of meetings with the President.
592
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,033
So I don't have the figures,
but if you --
593
00:30:10,033 --> 00:30:14,433
there's the Secretaries
of Defense, State, and Treasury,
594
00:30:14,433 --> 00:30:18,433
as well as Department of
Homeland Security, to be sure.
595
00:30:18,433 --> 00:30:21,533
And they all have spent a
significant amount of time
596
00:30:21,533 --> 00:30:24,667
with the President and
met with him on the issues
597
00:30:24,667 --> 00:30:26,632
that they oversee.
598
00:30:26,633 --> 00:30:30,166
But because of the preeminence
of health care and health care
599
00:30:30,166 --> 00:30:32,966
reform in this administration,
first-term and second,
600
00:30:32,967 --> 00:30:34,567
it's safe to say that
Secretary Sebelius spent
601
00:30:34,567 --> 00:30:36,633
a lot of time here.
602
00:30:36,633 --> 00:30:39,400
>> The Press:
So could you just
explain, though, how does --
603
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,734
because you mentioned
that on the schedule
604
00:30:42,734 --> 00:30:44,833
we see that
the standing meetings
605
00:30:44,834 --> 00:30:46,734
with Secretaries of Defense,
606
00:30:46,734 --> 00:30:49,966
State, Treasury, and the
other meetings don't show up
607
00:30:49,967 --> 00:30:50,967
on the schedule.
608
00:30:50,967 --> 00:30:52,400
How do you determine
what you decide you're
609
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,500
going to publicly notice,
and what you're not going to?
610
00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:01,300
>> Mr. Carney:
I think we endeavor
to put as much as we know
611
00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:04,265
in advance, and as much as
we can on the public schedule
612
00:31:04,266 --> 00:31:05,767
that we release the day before.
613
00:31:05,767 --> 00:31:09,800
We talk often about meetings
that have happened that either
614
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,133
are thrown on
in the last minute.
615
00:31:11,133 --> 00:31:13,467
I mean, when I mentioned that
I was in to see the President
616
00:31:13,467 --> 00:31:16,700
a couple of times yesterday,
they're not things that I knew
617
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:18,467
I was going to be seeing
him on the day before.
618
00:31:18,467 --> 00:31:22,834
So I think it's a lot --
it's probably kind of
619
00:31:22,834 --> 00:31:24,900
like your lives, that,
even though he's President,
620
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:27,166
it's pretty fluid, and --
621
00:31:27,166 --> 00:31:29,633
maybe not like
your lives, but --
622
00:31:29,633 --> 00:31:30,667
[laughter]
623
00:31:30,667 --> 00:31:31,600
>> The Press:
Ours is a little different.
624
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,800
>> Mr. Carney:
But also, obviously,
625
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,466
there are some meetings that
he has that are private,
626
00:31:36,467 --> 00:31:41,100
and we don't put them
on the public schedule
627
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,100
for a variety of reasons.
628
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:46,033
But I think especially those
numbers that Peter was citing
629
00:31:46,033 --> 00:31:49,233
are based -- a lot of them are
based on those standing
630
00:31:49,233 --> 00:31:52,600
weekly meetings, like the
Vice President's standing lunch,
631
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,766
weekly lunch, that are
imprinted on there,
632
00:31:55,767 --> 00:31:58,533
and those numbers show up.
633
00:31:58,533 --> 00:31:59,899
Major.
634
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:01,233
>> The Press:
I know the details are
still coming together,
635
00:32:01,233 --> 00:32:04,000
but is it anticipated and has
the President been invited
636
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,900
to deliver remarks or
a eulogy for Nelson Mandela?
637
00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:10,166
>> Mr. Carney:
I just don't have any
more details for you on that
638
00:32:10,166 --> 00:32:12,667
question or any
of the other logistics
639
00:32:12,667 --> 00:32:18,265
around the visit the President
and First Lady will be making.
640
00:32:18,266 --> 00:32:20,967
>> The Press:
By that, you're not trying to
imply he might not give remarks?
641
00:32:20,967 --> 00:32:23,934
>> Mr. Carney:
I'm not trying to
imply anything on this.
642
00:32:23,934 --> 00:32:25,133
[laughter]
643
00:32:25,133 --> 00:32:27,767
No, honestly, because
this is, for obvious reasons,
644
00:32:27,767 --> 00:32:30,633
still being worked on.
645
00:32:30,633 --> 00:32:33,200
And I promise you we'll get
that information to you.
646
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,367
I know obviously for a lot of
you and your organizations when
647
00:32:36,367 --> 00:32:39,700
it comes to coverage, is the
sooner the better in terms
648
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:41,800
of information and we'll
get it as soon as we can.
649
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,767
>> The Press:
In the New Republic this
morning there's a posting
650
00:32:45,767 --> 00:32:51,734
that says the error rate
for 834 processing is now down
651
00:32:51,734 --> 00:32:55,066
to 10 percent -- this is the
kind of the topic we brought
652
00:32:55,066 --> 00:32:56,266
and discussed yesterday.
653
00:32:56,266 --> 00:32:58,367
I wonder if you can tell me
if that is a verifiable
654
00:32:58,367 --> 00:33:01,500
or verified-internally statistic
that you are confident
655
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:05,533
in discussing or amplifying, and
if that's the beginning
656
00:33:05,533 --> 00:33:11,233
of a greater, if not floodtide,
at least larger data set on this
657
00:33:11,233 --> 00:33:16,133
834 question that we can expect,
if not today in the coming days.
658
00:33:16,133 --> 00:33:18,867
>> Mr. Carney:
Well, the data sets
would be coming from CMS,
659
00:33:18,867 --> 00:33:21,633
and I know they're working
on this issue broadly.
660
00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:24,700
All I can say what
I know with confidence --
661
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:27,700
and I try to deliver this
information from here,
662
00:33:30,333 --> 00:33:32,100
only that information
that I know with confidence
663
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:34,500
and that I've
checked out myself --
664
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:38,333
that we are confident
that the error rate,
665
00:33:38,333 --> 00:33:40,700
which is a
complicated thing,
666
00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:43,133
but that the overall number
of errors and problems
667
00:33:43,133 --> 00:33:47,400
with the backend of the
system and the 834 forms
668
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,533
has
been decreasing significantly
669
00:33:49,533 --> 00:33:52,332
since the
October 1st launch date,
670
00:33:52,333 --> 00:33:56,100
and significantly over
the course of November.
671
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:58,132
As I mentioned
earlier this week,
672
00:33:58,133 --> 00:34:02,467
one of the major fixes that went
in over the weekend prior
673
00:34:02,467 --> 00:34:06,834
to the change in the
calendar to December was one
674
00:34:06,834 --> 00:34:09,633
that addressed some
of these backend issues.
675
00:34:09,632 --> 00:34:11,567
But I don't have a percentage
figure to put on it.
676
00:34:11,567 --> 00:34:14,433
I think that the only thing from
that report that I can confirm
677
00:34:14,433 --> 00:34:19,500
is that we do know that
it's better now than it was.
678
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:21,867
We do know that there are still
issues we need to work on,
679
00:34:21,867 --> 00:34:26,133
which is why CMS has stood
up a regular meeting of experts
680
00:34:26,132 --> 00:34:31,966
with issuers to address these
specific problems on the
681
00:34:31,967 --> 00:34:37,433
backend, because it's very
important that we make sure
682
00:34:37,433 --> 00:34:41,400
that every 834 is accurate,
both past and present,
683
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,867
and we're going to do that.
684
00:34:42,867 --> 00:34:45,233
>> The Press:
And I want to follow
up on Steve Collinson's
685
00:34:45,233 --> 00:34:47,367
question from yesterday,
because you mentioned
686
00:34:47,367 --> 00:34:49,033
the Vice President's
trip to Asia.
687
00:34:49,033 --> 00:34:51,266
There is a sense
in those dissecting
688
00:34:51,266 --> 00:34:53,100
not only
the Vice President's words,
689
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:54,699
Secretary Hagel's
words and others,
690
00:34:54,699 --> 00:34:58,000
that though the United States
formally rejects the ADIZ,
691
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,100
that there is nothing it can
do about it and may, in fact,
692
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:05,232
be accommodating
itself to its reality,
693
00:35:05,233 --> 00:35:07,300
even though it objects to it.
694
00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:10,667
Is that a fair characterization?
695
00:35:10,667 --> 00:35:12,266
>> Mr. Carney:
I tried to be
as clear as I could,
696
00:35:12,266 --> 00:35:15,700
and I would point you to the
Vice President's remarks today
697
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:17,767
about this matter.
698
00:35:17,767 --> 00:35:23,533
We, the United States, do not
recognize and do not accept the
699
00:35:23,533 --> 00:35:30,000
newly announced East China Sea
Air Defense Identification Zone.
700
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,333
And it will not change --
701
00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:32,867
will not change --
702
00:35:32,867 --> 00:35:34,300
how the United States conducts
703
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:36,600
military operations
in the region.
704
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,933
It does not have
any practical effect
705
00:35:38,934 --> 00:35:41,266
on U.S. government operations.
706
00:35:41,266 --> 00:35:44,200
We have been very clear
about our view on this,
707
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,767
and have been clear not just
in our public pronouncements
708
00:35:46,767 --> 00:35:50,700
but in the --
as the Vice President said --
709
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:53,600
in his meetings
with Chinese leaders.
710
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:59,066
So the broader point
I think we're trying
711
00:35:59,066 --> 00:36:07,066
to make to the Chinese is that
this is not how major powers
712
00:36:07,066 --> 00:36:11,533
conduct themselves and
that there is enormous danger
713
00:36:11,533 --> 00:36:13,533
in these kinds
of provocative actions
714
00:36:13,533 --> 00:36:16,299
in a region of the world that --
715
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:17,300
>> The Press:
Picking up on that,
716
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:19,000
it sounds as if the U.S. posture
717
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,633
is to say to China, don't
do anything like this again
718
00:36:23,633 --> 00:36:25,767
that could create any
confusion, misunderstanding,
719
00:36:25,767 --> 00:36:29,966
or lead to a confrontation;
and that though it doesn't want
720
00:36:29,967 --> 00:36:32,567
to accommodate itself to it,
it may in fact have to.
721
00:36:32,567 --> 00:36:34,700
>> Mr. Carney:
I'm not sure where
you're seeing that.
722
00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:37,033
Obviously,
China made an announcement.
723
00:36:37,033 --> 00:36:40,866
It is for China
to not implement it,
724
00:36:40,867 --> 00:36:42,133
which is what they're calling --
725
00:36:42,133 --> 00:36:43,133
we're calling on them to do.
726
00:36:43,133 --> 00:36:44,966
We don't recognize it,
we don't accept it.
727
00:36:44,967 --> 00:36:47,700
So an announcement
is an announcement.
728
00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:53,066
And the fact of the matter is,
we've been very clear
729
00:36:53,066 --> 00:36:58,600
about our view of it and
how we will react to it.
730
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:05,266
And our broader concern about
the tension in the region
731
00:37:05,266 --> 00:37:08,834
and how these kinds
of provocative actions
732
00:37:08,834 --> 00:37:13,100
could lead to miscalculation
and to further tension
733
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:14,433
in the region,
734
00:37:14,433 --> 00:37:17,633
which is not in the interest
of any of the nations involved.
735
00:37:17,633 --> 00:37:18,933
Ed.
736
00:37:18,934 --> 00:37:21,633
>> The Press:
On health care,
I wanted to ask a couple.
737
00:37:21,633 --> 00:37:24,033
You said yesterday and again
today that in order to make sure
738
00:37:24,033 --> 00:37:26,667
people who have tried to sign
up actually get their insurance
739
00:37:26,667 --> 00:37:29,100
starting on January 1st,
that the administration
740
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:32,834
is endeavoring to contact
these people in some way
741
00:37:32,834 --> 00:37:35,200
to get their paperwork in order.
742
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,834
Wouldn't that suggest you have
some sort of enrollment figures?
743
00:37:37,834 --> 00:37:40,399
If you're contacting people,
you know that they enrolled.
744
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,266
So what are the enrollment
figures for November?
745
00:37:43,266 --> 00:37:45,133
We haven't heard those yet.
746
00:37:45,133 --> 00:37:47,799
>> Mr. Carney:
My understanding is,
as was the case for October,
747
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,166
that those numbers are
being verified, scrubbed,
748
00:37:52,166 --> 00:37:53,300
data is being checked.
749
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:56,300
There's a lot to come in
from states, and that HHS,
750
00:37:56,300 --> 00:37:59,333
CMS will provide those figures
in the middle of the month,
751
00:37:59,333 --> 00:38:03,266
which I think is next week,
consistent with the need
752
00:38:03,266 --> 00:38:08,000
to make sure that those
numbers are tight.
753
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:15,100
Obviously, we know October, and
they can see who's pressed some
754
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:18,165
buttons and reach out to them,
and maybe they find out that
755
00:38:18,166 --> 00:38:20,066
this was part of the process --
you find out that maybe there
756
00:38:20,066 --> 00:38:22,734
was an error or
duplication in that effort.
757
00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:25,433
So in the release of numbers,
we're going to be very
758
00:38:25,433 --> 00:38:28,333
consistent, which is to make
sure they're as accurate as
759
00:38:28,333 --> 00:38:29,767
possible before we release them.
760
00:38:29,767 --> 00:38:33,533
And that requires some time,
especially in a circumstance
761
00:38:33,533 --> 00:38:37,866
like this where you
have the federal site,
762
00:38:37,867 --> 00:38:41,133
which is administering the
marketplaces on the number of
763
00:38:41,133 --> 00:38:43,834
states that it is, and then you
have the individual states that
764
00:38:43,834 --> 00:38:45,834
are running their own
marketplaces and providing data.
765
00:38:45,834 --> 00:38:48,066
So that's all being combined.
766
00:38:48,066 --> 00:38:53,033
And we'll get it to you
when it's ready, HHS will.
767
00:38:53,033 --> 00:38:54,767
The broader thing that we've
been talking about -- I mean,
768
00:38:54,767 --> 00:38:59,332
I'm not -- I haven't disputed or
confirmed any numbers out there
769
00:38:59,333 --> 00:39:01,834
because we're waiting for
the hard, verified data.
770
00:39:01,834 --> 00:39:06,600
I think that the reports
that we've seen reflect
771
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,633
what we believe based on the
early information that we have,
772
00:39:09,633 --> 00:39:13,966
which is that the system is
working much more effectively;
773
00:39:13,967 --> 00:39:16,633
that many more people are
successfully enrolling,
774
00:39:16,633 --> 00:39:18,734
getting from beginning
to end in the process;
775
00:39:18,734 --> 00:39:24,033
that the number
of problems with the site
776
00:39:24,033 --> 00:39:26,567
has been reduced significantly,
777
00:39:26,567 --> 00:39:29,300
and that includes the
frontend and the backend,
778
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:31,033
but that we continue
to work on it.
779
00:39:31,033 --> 00:39:33,567
And these teams
are working hard --
780
00:39:33,567 --> 00:39:36,867
as hard this week as
they were in previous weeks.
781
00:39:36,867 --> 00:39:42,700
>> The Press:
Republican Darrel Issa
has been releasing documents
782
00:39:42,700 --> 00:39:43,700
for weeks now.
783
00:39:43,700 --> 00:39:44,700
He's got
more today that he says suggest
784
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:45,834
that the small
business exchange --
785
00:39:45,834 --> 00:39:47,966
that the administration
knew as early as August
786
00:39:47,967 --> 00:39:50,700
that the small business
exchange would not be ready
787
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:51,933
by October 1st.
788
00:39:51,934 --> 00:39:53,033
I think there were --
789
00:39:53,033 --> 00:39:54,467
it was indicated that
there might be problems
790
00:39:54,467 --> 00:39:55,600
with it in September,
791
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,667
but it was not until
late November that you said
792
00:39:57,667 --> 00:40:00,100
we're going to
have to delay that
793
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:01,100
small business exchange.
794
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:02,500
Was there any intent to --
795
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:05,066
>> Mr. Carney:
I think it was
September that they --
796
00:40:05,066 --> 00:40:06,500
>> The Press:
But that you knew in August
797
00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:08,433
that there were
problems and that --
798
00:40:08,433 --> 00:40:10,066
their charge is that --
799
00:40:10,066 --> 00:40:11,734
>> Mr. Carney:
Well, what I'm confident in is
that there are dribs and drabs
800
00:40:11,734 --> 00:40:14,033
of information that come
out that partially reflect
801
00:40:16,266 --> 00:40:18,166
what's happening
at CMS and HHS.
802
00:40:18,166 --> 00:40:22,734
I don't have any specific
information on this latest
803
00:40:22,734 --> 00:40:23,900
release of information.
804
00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:30,500
But anything that reinforces
the fact that the site
805
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:35,400
had problems in October
is probably something
806
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,767
we'll agree with.
807
00:40:36,767 --> 00:40:38,165
>> The Press:
And it was mentioned
in the MSNBC interview --
808
00:40:38,166 --> 00:40:40,600
the President was asked about
holding Cabinet secretaries and
809
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,033
the Cabinet accountable, and
is this a reflection of his
810
00:40:44,033 --> 00:40:46,633
personal management style,
and he said it's actually
811
00:40:46,633 --> 00:40:49,299
about these big government
agencies that are outdated,
812
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:51,400
they need to be fixed.
813
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,834
>> Mr. Carney:
I think he was talking
about procurement issues
814
00:40:53,834 --> 00:40:56,433
and IT issues, which he
has talked about from here.
815
00:40:56,433 --> 00:40:59,600
>> The Press:
But he said that these agencies
are not designed properly.
816
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,567
My question is,
is he passing the buck?
817
00:41:01,567 --> 00:41:04,567
Is there not any changes
that need to be made
818
00:41:04,567 --> 00:41:05,700
at the White House?
819
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:07,100
>> Mr. Carney:
No, no, no, no, no.
820
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:09,433
He has stood before
you, and believe me,
821
00:41:09,433 --> 00:41:11,200
there are people
who think he has --
822
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,332
>> The Press:
But he hasn't talked about
changes at the White House.
823
00:41:13,333 --> 00:41:14,767
>> Mr. Carney:
Well, are you asking me --
824
00:41:14,767 --> 00:41:16,567
>> The Press:
Are there going to be
changes at the White House
825
00:41:16,567 --> 00:41:17,900
-- management, structure?
826
00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:18,900
>> Mr. Carney:
I have no personnel
announcements to make.
827
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:20,100
What I can say is
that a lot of reporting
828
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:21,400
around this has been inaccurate.
829
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,400
>> The Press:
Well, what's that?
830
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,667
>> Mr. Carney:
Here is what I can tell you.
831
00:41:23,667 --> 00:41:25,400
The
President believes very
strongly that we ought
832
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,633
to be functioning
effectively at all levels
833
00:41:28,633 --> 00:41:31,165
of the government on
behalf of the taxpayers.
834
00:41:31,166 --> 00:41:33,200
And he has put forward --
835
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,100
in fact, Jeff Zients
helped run that process --
836
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:39,433
put forward a pretty significant
streamlining of some of our
837
00:41:39,433 --> 00:41:43,200
government agencies
in a very sensible proposal
838
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,265
that he certainly hopes
Congress would act on.
839
00:41:46,266 --> 00:41:48,533
Now, that has to do with
agencies not related
840
00:41:48,533 --> 00:41:52,299
to the Affordable Care
Act implementation.
841
00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:55,567
But I think the broader
view that it reflects
842
00:41:55,567 --> 00:41:59,533
is that the President thinks
we ought to bring up to date
843
00:41:59,533 --> 00:42:03,700
the functionality of
all of our activities here,
844
00:42:03,700 --> 00:42:10,232
and make it better, faster, more
efficient and more responsive
845
00:42:10,233 --> 00:42:12,900
to the consumer --
and in this case,
846
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:14,834
the consumer is
obviously the taxpayer.
847
00:42:14,834 --> 00:42:16,000
>> The Press:
Last one.
848
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,066
This interview was conducted
at American University
849
00:42:17,066 --> 00:42:18,200
with students in the
audience; the day before,
850
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,667
the President went
to a youth summit.
851
00:42:19,667 --> 00:42:22,366
Harvard University put out a
poll this week that got widely
852
00:42:22,367 --> 00:42:25,934
cited about young people seeming
to be disillusioned with
853
00:42:25,934 --> 00:42:28,367
the health care law,
maybe disillusioned with
854
00:42:28,367 --> 00:42:29,800
the President's leadership.
855
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,200
My question is, is he concerned
by going to the youth summit,
856
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,200
engaging these students?
857
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,767
I know he's done
it before, but this week,
858
00:42:34,767 --> 00:42:39,066
as you unveil this PR campaign
on the health care law,
859
00:42:39,066 --> 00:42:41,633
how concerned is this White
House that the President's base,
860
00:42:41,633 --> 00:42:45,500
particularly young people who
supported him big time in '08
861
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:48,533
and 2012, are abandoning
him on health care?
862
00:42:48,533 --> 00:42:49,734
>> Mr. Carney:
I'd say a couple of things.
863
00:42:49,734 --> 00:42:56,366
The outreach to young Americans
regarding enrollment
864
00:42:56,367 --> 00:42:59,367
and implementation
of Obamacare has to do
865
00:42:59,367 --> 00:43:05,100
with a longstanding
observation and a plan around it
866
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:08,200
that we need
young people to enroll.
867
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:14,200
And that is true
regardless of polling data
868
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,299
on the Affordable Care Act.
869
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:18,834
It was always going to be true,
and it's always going
870
00:43:18,834 --> 00:43:20,633
to be important,
and it was always the case,
871
00:43:20,633 --> 00:43:22,165
as I think we've discussed
here in this room,
872
00:43:22,166 --> 00:43:26,033
that young people in particular
were more likely to wait until
873
00:43:26,033 --> 00:43:29,667
later stages in the
enrollment process to enroll.
874
00:43:29,667 --> 00:43:34,500
And so this effort is part of a
broader effort that is and will
875
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:38,133
be undertaken to make sure
that young Americans around the
876
00:43:38,133 --> 00:43:42,600
country understand the
advantages of having insurance
877
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,366
and the need to have it and all
the options available to them.
878
00:43:46,367 --> 00:43:50,567
The poll you cite, I think
I'll leave it to folks
879
00:43:50,567 --> 00:43:55,367
on the political side
who have looked at that.
880
00:43:55,367 --> 00:43:58,333
There are some -- it's
in pretty stark disagreement
881
00:43:58,333 --> 00:43:59,567
with a
whole series of other polls
882
00:43:59,567 --> 00:44:01,800
by organizations
represented here,
883
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:07,467
particularly on youth and
the Affordable Care Act.
884
00:44:07,467 --> 00:44:08,633
There are good
polls and bad polls.
885
00:44:08,633 --> 00:44:09,966
It's not worth --
886
00:44:09,967 --> 00:44:11,200
>> The Press:
There's no fear that
he's losing his base?
887
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,399
>> Mr. Carney:
Look, it's not about
fear or whatever.
888
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,700
There is no question that
the problems we've had with
889
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:21,133
implementation of the Affordable
Care Act have created obstacles
890
00:44:21,133 --> 00:44:23,299
in the way of our efforts here.
891
00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:26,066
I think a poll today --
something I saw today said that
892
00:44:26,066 --> 00:44:30,667
basically the percentage of
Americans who want to repeal
893
00:44:30,667 --> 00:44:32,433
the Affordable Care
Act has not changed at all
894
00:44:32,433 --> 00:44:33,567
in the last couple of months,
895
00:44:33,567 --> 00:44:38,600
and I think that speaks
to the kind of entrenched
896
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,900
political nature
of this debate
897
00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:44,767
over the past several years.
898
00:44:44,767 --> 00:44:49,232
So it has always been in our
view the case that you have
899
00:44:49,233 --> 00:44:54,333
to set aside those issues,
those political issues,
900
00:44:54,333 --> 00:44:58,300
and focus on delivering
the benefits of the law.
901
00:44:58,300 --> 00:44:59,934
And we've been
talking about that.
902
00:44:59,934 --> 00:45:06,467
I talked about the improvements
in health care costs,
903
00:45:06,467 --> 00:45:08,867
the reduction in the growth
of health care costs that we've
904
00:45:08,867 --> 00:45:10,533
seen since the Affordable
Care Act was passed.
905
00:45:10,533 --> 00:45:13,033
That's a sort
of macro deliverable
906
00:45:13,033 --> 00:45:14,299
from the Affordable Care Act.
907
00:45:14,300 --> 00:45:17,533
But we talked about preexisting
conditions and the fact
908
00:45:17,533 --> 00:45:19,799
that the Affordable Care Act,
beginning January 1st,
909
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,166
ensures that no one with
a preexisting condition
910
00:45:22,166 --> 00:45:23,400
can be denied insurance.
911
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,633
And already for a long time now
912
00:45:26,633 --> 00:45:27,734
because of the
Affordable Care Act,
913
00:45:27,734 --> 00:45:31,133
children with preexisting
conditions have not --
914
00:45:31,133 --> 00:45:34,734
cannot be denied, have not
been able to be denied coverage.
915
00:45:34,734 --> 00:45:38,133
So we're focused on
delivering the benefits.
916
00:45:38,133 --> 00:45:44,066
We know from similar data that
breaks down what people say
917
00:45:44,066 --> 00:45:46,232
they like and want
in health care reform
918
00:45:46,233 --> 00:45:49,900
that the benefits
are broadly supported.
919
00:45:49,900 --> 00:45:55,333
And we've seen, because of the
remarkable resilience and grit
920
00:45:55,333 --> 00:45:57,200
of the American people,
921
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,866
even when they're
trying to get insurance,
922
00:45:58,867 --> 00:46:03,834
that even when we,
because of the troubles we've
923
00:46:03,834 --> 00:46:08,066
caused with the healthcare.gov
site that it was entirely
924
00:46:08,066 --> 00:46:11,966
incumbent upon us to fix,
that they're still there
925
00:46:11,967 --> 00:46:18,266
demonstrating in high volume the
fact that they believe that this
926
00:46:18,266 --> 00:46:22,367
is something they need and want
and want to know more about.
927
00:46:22,367 --> 00:46:23,934
So that's why we're
focused on delivering
928
00:46:23,934 --> 00:46:24,967
those benefits to them.
929
00:46:24,967 --> 00:46:30,400
We'll see down
the road how people view
930
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,400
the Affordable Care Act
931
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,834
and the benefits
that it provides.
932
00:46:33,834 --> 00:46:35,165
Right now, we're going to just
933
00:46:35,166 --> 00:46:37,367
get about the business
of delivering.
934
00:46:37,367 --> 00:46:38,867
Dow Jones.
935
00:46:38,867 --> 00:46:40,166
>> The Press:
Thank you, Jay.
936
00:46:40,166 --> 00:46:43,000
I know you have said and the
President has said he wants to
937
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,066
extend unemployment insurance.
938
00:46:44,066 --> 00:46:46,332
Do you have ideas about
how to pay for that?
939
00:46:46,333 --> 00:46:49,200
I know that Jason Furman told
Reuters in an interview today
940
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,700
that the White House has
ideas for paying for it.
941
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:55,100
>> Mr. Carney:
I think we've
put forward a plan.
942
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:59,200
I mean, this is something that
we're not new to the game on.
943
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,700
And I would just point --
I don't have the details of it.
944
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:07,066
I know that we're looking to
Congress to do what it has
945
00:47:07,066 --> 00:47:10,500
in the past, which is sit down
946
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:12,200
and figure out a
way to get this done
947
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,232
because of the
need not to throw --
948
00:47:15,233 --> 00:47:21,000
the imperative of not depriving
or withholding benefits
949
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,734
to over a million families
right after Christmas, A;
950
00:47:24,734 --> 00:47:29,567
B, because of the
economic impact, positive impact
951
00:47:29,567 --> 00:47:31,967
that supplying these
benefits would provide.
952
00:47:31,967 --> 00:47:39,266
So I can take the question and
point you to Jason and others
953
00:47:39,266 --> 00:47:40,800
who have more detail on it.
954
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,133
Zack.
955
00:47:42,133 --> 00:47:43,133
>> The Press:
Thanks, Jay.
956
00:47:43,133 --> 00:47:44,299
Two questions.
957
00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:47,266
First of all, earlier you
observed that job creation
958
00:47:47,266 --> 00:47:49,433
started around the
passage of the ACA.
959
00:47:49,433 --> 00:47:51,066
Are you suggesting any
relationship there?
960
00:47:51,066 --> 00:47:53,633
Or if not, why mention it?
961
00:47:53,633 --> 00:47:57,299
>> Mr. Carney:
As I said, I'm not suggesting
a direct correlation.
962
00:47:57,300 --> 00:47:59,333
>> The Press:
So why mention it?
963
00:47:59,333 --> 00:48:01,066
>> Mr. Carney:
Because there is an
argument out there --
964
00:48:01,066 --> 00:48:05,165
and I'm, again,
in a charitable mood today,
965
00:48:05,166 --> 00:48:07,400
so I'm not going to spend
a lot of time on it --
966
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,200
but there is an argument
out there that the ACA
967
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,332
is a job killer,
968
00:48:10,333 --> 00:48:16,533
and the data would
suggest otherwise.
969
00:48:16,533 --> 00:48:19,533
I'm not saying it's
creating these jobs,
970
00:48:19,533 --> 00:48:21,100
but there's been an
argument out there that the ACA
971
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:25,100
is going to drive people
into part-time employment.
972
00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:26,366
But the data --
you've got to --
973
00:48:26,367 --> 00:48:27,600
it's one thing
to make an argument.
974
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,900
You've got to back
it up with some data.
975
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:30,767
And the data suggests
the opposite,
976
00:48:30,767 --> 00:48:33,133
or suggests that
that is not true,
977
00:48:33,133 --> 00:48:36,399
because there's
been very positive --
978
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,300
the trend is very positive when
it comes to increasing full-time
979
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:42,467
employment versus
part-time employment.
980
00:48:42,467 --> 00:48:43,934
In fact, the recovery
from this recession,
981
00:48:43,934 --> 00:48:46,166
the percentage of people
going into full-time jobs
982
00:48:46,166 --> 00:48:48,934
rather than part-time jobs
is actually better than average.
983
00:48:48,934 --> 00:48:51,266
So again, I'm not saying
984
00:48:51,266 --> 00:48:52,500
that's because of
the Affordable Care Act,
985
00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:54,000
but I'm saying
that the arguments
986
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,266
that the Affordable Care Act
987
00:48:55,266 --> 00:48:58,333
is causing these
problems don't hold up
988
00:48:58,333 --> 00:48:59,834
when you look at that data.
989
00:48:59,834 --> 00:49:01,500
>> The Press:
And my second question is,
990
00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:05,800
in March and in September, when
we faced continuing resolution
991
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,934
and government
shutdown questions,
992
00:49:07,934 --> 00:49:09,567
the White House
set a standard of,
993
00:49:09,567 --> 00:49:13,233
if negotiations to find
something better fail,
994
00:49:13,233 --> 00:49:14,800
we won't ever
advocate a shutdown,
995
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,100
we will let current
law take place.
996
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:21,400
Is that the position
going forward?
997
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,800
>> Mr. Carney:
We believe that
it's a good time
998
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,967
not to predict failure.
999
00:49:25,967 --> 00:49:30,767
So we think that Congress ought
to do what it's been doing,
1000
00:49:30,767 --> 00:49:35,600
which is working collaboratively
to reach a compromise
1001
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,600
and a budget arrangement.
1002
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:43,700
So we certainly oppose
a shutdown, and I think --
1003
00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:46,600
I'm certain that
our view of what happened
1004
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,033
in September and October has not
changed and will always apply,
1005
00:49:51,033 --> 00:49:58,066
which is that the harm done by
a shutdown is wholly unnecessary
1006
00:49:58,066 --> 00:50:02,767
and was a decision made for
pretty expressively political
1007
00:50:02,767 --> 00:50:06,433
reasons back in September
and October by Republicans
1008
00:50:06,433 --> 00:50:10,066
that turned out to be very
bad for the economy.
1009
00:50:10,066 --> 00:50:12,332
Jared.
1010
00:50:12,333 --> 00:50:15,100
>> The Press:
For the jobs numbers
that are out today,
1011
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:18,066
the President,
even just a couple days ago,
1012
00:50:18,066 --> 00:50:20,299
in the economic
speech at THEARC,
1013
00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:23,700
we're not seeing new policy
initiatives being pushed out
1014
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:25,165
by the White House.
1015
00:50:25,166 --> 00:50:29,467
So is the President comfortable
with the decrease
1016
00:50:29,467 --> 00:50:31,233
in unemployment as it has been?
1017
00:50:31,233 --> 00:50:32,667
>> Mr. Carney:
Not at all.
1018
00:50:32,667 --> 00:50:34,266
>> The Press:
Or does he want to whittle
it down sooner or faster
1019
00:50:34,266 --> 00:50:35,266
or at a greater pace?
1020
00:50:35,266 --> 00:50:36,934
And what's he doing
to achieve that?
1021
00:50:36,934 --> 00:50:38,266
>> Mr. Carney:
Well, I appreciate the question,
1022
00:50:38,266 --> 00:50:40,367
and I would point you
to what the President said
1023
00:50:40,367 --> 00:50:41,934
the other day.
1024
00:50:41,934 --> 00:50:44,133
We need to invest
in our infrastructure.
1025
00:50:44,133 --> 00:50:47,000
Republicans used to support
that with Democrats.
1026
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,133
We needed to get that done.
1027
00:50:48,133 --> 00:50:53,667
We need to -- when
the President has put forward
1028
00:50:53,667 --> 00:50:56,433
an idea of doing that,
1029
00:50:56,433 --> 00:50:59,667
and also lowering our corporate
tax rate and eliminating
1030
00:50:59,667 --> 00:51:03,266
loopholes in a way that
would be a better bargain
1031
00:51:03,266 --> 00:51:05,200
for jobs in this country.
1032
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,567
We need to invest
in universal pre-K.
1033
00:51:08,567 --> 00:51:12,633
We need to continue to do the
things that the President
1034
00:51:12,633 --> 00:51:18,734
has put forward to attract
jobs to America from overseas
1035
00:51:18,734 --> 00:51:23,033
and to bring home jobs
from American companies
1036
00:51:23,033 --> 00:51:24,232
that are located overseas,
1037
00:51:24,233 --> 00:51:26,100
bring them home,
to build on those trends.
1038
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:28,232
We need to continue to build on
the trends, the positive trends,
1039
00:51:28,233 --> 00:51:34,467
we've seen in the manufacturing
sector in this country,
1040
00:51:34,467 --> 00:51:39,533
represented by the automobile
companies but also by a host
1041
00:51:39,533 --> 00:51:43,033
of other positive signs and
developments in manufacturing.
1042
00:51:43,033 --> 00:51:46,533
So, no, the President
is not the least bit satisfied
1043
00:51:46,533 --> 00:51:48,667
or complacent with where we are.
1044
00:51:48,667 --> 00:51:51,066
That's why he really believes
that we ought to have
1045
00:51:51,066 --> 00:51:57,265
a spirited conversation
about what are we going to do
1046
00:51:57,266 --> 00:51:58,767
to reduce inequality,
1047
00:51:58,767 --> 00:52:00,399
what are we going
to do to increase
1048
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,266
the number of jobs overall,
1049
00:52:02,266 --> 00:52:05,333
but in particular the
number of jobs that pay
1050
00:52:05,333 --> 00:52:09,200
a middle-class wage and provide
middle-class security
1051
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,567
to families across the country.
1052
00:52:10,567 --> 00:52:16,667
And he said in that
speech that he believes
1053
00:52:16,667 --> 00:52:21,299
that we can get some
of this done with Congress.
1054
00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:25,333
And where Congress
refuses to move,
1055
00:52:25,333 --> 00:52:29,000
he will take action
that he can on his own,
1056
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,633
because this is his
fundamental preoccupation.
1057
00:52:32,633 --> 00:52:34,366
>> The Press:
Is he waiting until
the State of the Union
1058
00:52:34,367 --> 00:52:36,734
or some other future
date to roll out
1059
00:52:36,734 --> 00:52:38,433
a specific legislative package?
1060
00:52:38,433 --> 00:52:40,734
I just feel
like Congress is --
1061
00:52:40,734 --> 00:52:44,433
>> Mr. Carney:
Jared, I promise not to bore you
1062
00:52:44,433 --> 00:52:46,367
with the numerous
legislative proposals
1063
00:52:46,367 --> 00:52:47,734
that are already out there,
1064
00:52:47,734 --> 00:52:49,333
reflected in his
budget and elsewhere,
1065
00:52:49,333 --> 00:52:51,767
that would grow jobs now
and create the foundation
1066
00:52:51,767 --> 00:52:54,399
for further job growth
in the future.
1067
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,500
He noted that in his speech,
that he has a number
1068
00:52:57,500 --> 00:53:03,033
of proposals that he
will again focus on --
1069
00:53:03,033 --> 00:53:05,033
because, as I was noting,
1070
00:53:05,033 --> 00:53:08,900
a lot of them are of
the nature that in the past
1071
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:12,233
have enjoyed bipartisan support
and should in the future.
1072
00:53:12,233 --> 00:53:16,100
And he looks forward to --
he calls on everyone in Congress
1073
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:19,533
of both parties
to put forward ideas.
1074
00:53:19,533 --> 00:53:21,567
If they have ideas that
they think are better,
1075
00:53:21,567 --> 00:53:23,900
that they disagree with
the President's approach
1076
00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:26,600
to narrowing the gap
that we've seen,
1077
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:31,467
the growing gap when
it comes to inequality,
1078
00:53:31,467 --> 00:53:36,133
or increasing upward
mobility, he's all ears,
1079
00:53:36,133 --> 00:53:41,399
and looks forward to
having that conversation.
1080
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,400
Zack.
1081
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,066
I mean, sorry,
Isaac, and then --
1082
00:53:45,066 --> 00:53:47,700
>> The Press:
Has the President given
any new consideration --
1083
00:53:47,700 --> 00:53:49,567
>> Mr. Carney:
I called on Zack already.
1084
00:53:49,567 --> 00:53:51,000
>> The Press:
It's all right.
1085
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,367
>> Mr. Carney:
You guys kind of look
alike, do you know that?
1086
00:53:53,367 --> 00:53:54,367
[laughter]
1087
00:53:54,367 --> 00:53:55,567
>> The Press:
Thanks.
1088
00:53:55,567 --> 00:53:57,867
>> The Press:
He went to the
same high school --
1089
00:53:57,867 --> 00:53:58,867
>> Mr. Carney:
Really?
1090
00:53:58,867 --> 00:54:00,300
>> The Press: Yes.
1091
00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:01,467
Has the President given any new
consideration to the executive
1092
00:54:01,467 --> 00:54:03,133
order proposed to
raise the minimum wage
1093
00:54:03,133 --> 00:54:04,533
on federal contractors?
1094
00:54:04,533 --> 00:54:05,533
>> Mr. Carney:
We strongly believe --
1095
00:54:05,533 --> 00:54:07,165
and I neglected to
mention this, Jared,
1096
00:54:07,166 --> 00:54:09,066
and this gives me
the opportunity --
1097
00:54:09,066 --> 00:54:12,165
that Congress ought to act
on the longstanding precedent of
1098
00:54:12,166 --> 00:54:15,100
bipartisan cooperation when it
comes to raising the minimum
1099
00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:19,866
wage, because that will have
an immediate positive impact
1100
00:54:19,867 --> 00:54:23,967
on the lives of millions of
Americans and on our economy.
1101
00:54:23,967 --> 00:54:26,000
And as the President
noted the other day,
1102
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:31,834
the counterarguments upon
scrutiny don't hold up,
1103
00:54:31,834 --> 00:54:36,000
as studies show about
raising the minimum wage.
1104
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,767
So we ought to do that
as soon as possible.
1105
00:54:37,767 --> 00:54:39,633
So he thinks there
is the opportunity,
1106
00:54:39,633 --> 00:54:42,165
given the history here, given
the interest that has been
1107
00:54:42,166 --> 00:54:45,533
expressed by some Republicans
in getting this done to do it,
1108
00:54:45,533 --> 00:54:48,299
and to demonstrate
to the American people
1109
00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:51,667
that we here in Washington
can take action.
1110
00:54:51,667 --> 00:54:54,200
Remember, the studies out there
show it doesn't have an adverse
1111
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,834
impact on businesses or
job creation or growth --
1112
00:54:56,834 --> 00:54:57,866
quite the contrary.
1113
00:54:57,867 --> 00:55:02,667
And it doesn't cost
the taxpayer to do it.
1114
00:55:02,667 --> 00:55:04,734
So we ought to do it.
1115
00:55:04,734 --> 00:55:06,900
>> The Press:
But progressives in Congress
say that he should lead
1116
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:09,400
by example on the federal
contractors in raising
1117
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,133
the minimum wage there,
doing something that he can do
1118
00:55:12,133 --> 00:55:15,700
on his own, and not waiting
for Congress to act.
1119
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:17,633
>> Mr. Carney:
Well, I think I've
said, broadly speaking,
1120
00:55:17,633 --> 00:55:20,100
not addressing this, that the
President is always looking
1121
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:22,567
for ways to move the
ball forward where Congress
1122
00:55:22,567 --> 00:55:24,100
won't work with him to do that.
1123
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:26,667
But he believes this is an
opportunity for Congress to work
1124
00:55:26,667 --> 00:55:30,734
with him in concert towards
a goal that will help
1125
00:55:30,734 --> 00:55:32,633
millions of Americans
and help the economy.
1126
00:55:32,633 --> 00:55:34,232
>> The Press:
So he won't sign it before --
1127
00:55:34,233 --> 00:55:36,934
>> Mr. Carney:
I'm not going to speculate
about a hypothetical like that.
1128
00:55:36,934 --> 00:55:38,700
I think his focus,
as he said the other day,
1129
00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:40,734
is on Congress taking action.
1130
00:55:40,734 --> 00:55:42,033
Yes, sir.
1131
00:55:42,033 --> 00:55:43,200
>> The Press:
Jay, just to follow
up on something else
1132
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,066
the President said on that,
I guess you call it,
1133
00:55:46,066 --> 00:55:47,066
TV talk show yesterday.
1134
00:55:47,066 --> 00:55:48,133
[laughter]
1135
00:55:48,133 --> 00:55:50,466
He said he was going
to be proposing some --
1136
00:55:50,467 --> 00:55:51,934
>> Mr. Carney:
It's not like
a newfangled thing.
1137
00:55:51,934 --> 00:55:53,233
[laughter]
1138
00:55:53,233 --> 00:55:54,867
>> The Press:
I don't know exactly
what that show was.
1139
00:55:54,867 --> 00:55:57,333
I watched it, but I couldn't
quite figure it out.
1140
00:55:57,333 --> 00:55:59,533
But he said he was
going to be proposing
1141
00:55:59,533 --> 00:56:00,967
some self-restraint on the NSA.
1142
00:56:00,967 --> 00:56:03,533
Where does that process stand?
1143
00:56:03,533 --> 00:56:04,667
>> Mr. Carney:
It's underway.
1144
00:56:04,667 --> 00:56:10,933
And the President is
continuing to review ideas.
1145
00:56:10,934 --> 00:56:13,333
And I think
it's important that he noted
1146
00:56:13,333 --> 00:56:19,233
an important point yesterday --
1147
00:56:19,233 --> 00:56:21,066
it's not well said --
but he made an important point
1148
00:56:21,066 --> 00:56:24,933
yesterday that I know he
believes deeply that the work
1149
00:56:24,934 --> 00:56:29,367
done by NSA and others
in our intelligence agencies
1150
00:56:29,367 --> 00:56:33,266
is vital to keeping America
and Americans safe,
1151
00:56:33,266 --> 00:56:36,000
as well as keeping
our allies safe,
1152
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,300
and we can't lose sight of that.
1153
00:56:37,300 --> 00:56:42,633
But I think the President said
in those comments yesterday
1154
00:56:42,633 --> 00:56:44,834
things that reflected and echoed
what he said in the past
1155
00:56:44,834 --> 00:56:49,767
about things that we can do
and reforms that we can make
1156
00:56:49,767 --> 00:56:55,533
that are wise, without
forgetting the fundamental
1157
00:56:55,533 --> 00:56:59,165
mission that is undertaken
by our intelligence community
1158
00:56:59,166 --> 00:57:03,333
is designed to and does make
Americans and America safer.
1159
00:57:03,333 --> 00:57:05,400
>> The Press:
We understand he's going
to get a report next week
1160
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,000
from the advisory group
that he named about the NSA.
1161
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,333
Is that sort of
the pivot point on --
1162
00:57:11,333 --> 00:57:14,066
>> Mr. Carney:
I just don't have any
scheduling announcements
1163
00:57:14,066 --> 00:57:16,500
on that issue to provide today.
1164
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:20,033
But he's actively
engaged in this process.
1165
00:57:20,033 --> 00:57:21,266
Cheryl.
1166
00:57:21,266 --> 00:57:22,734
>> The Press:
Since we're talking
about legislative
1167
00:57:22,734 --> 00:57:25,066
agenda, after the shutdown
there were three things
1168
00:57:25,066 --> 00:57:26,667
that the President
said he wanted to see --
1169
00:57:26,667 --> 00:57:27,700
immigration reform,
1170
00:57:27,700 --> 00:57:29,332
a farm bill and a budget.
1171
00:57:29,333 --> 00:57:31,934
And the House is about to leave.
1172
00:57:31,934 --> 00:57:34,467
Is there any sort of
timetable on those,
1173
00:57:34,467 --> 00:57:37,133
or is there any
way to get those,
1174
00:57:37,133 --> 00:57:39,899
or is it just
an ongoing process?
1175
00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:46,100
>> Mr. Carney:
Well, we talked about budget
negotiations that are underway.
1176
00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:52,066
And when it comes to
the farm bill and the effort
1177
00:57:52,066 --> 00:57:53,866
to pass comprehensive
immigration reform,
1178
00:57:53,867 --> 00:57:56,200
the President still believes
that Congress can act
1179
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,767
and should act as
soon as possible,
1180
00:57:57,767 --> 00:58:02,366
and could act right away --
1181
00:58:02,367 --> 00:58:04,300
the House could --
when it comes to these issues.
1182
00:58:04,300 --> 00:58:05,834
So on the farm bill --
1183
00:58:05,834 --> 00:58:08,100
>> The Press:
They could, but
they're not with us.
1184
00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:11,100
>> Mr. Carney:
Well, that's a shame
if that's the case.
1185
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:14,232
They're not gone yet, and they
ought to do something between
1186
00:58:14,233 --> 00:58:18,033
now and their departure that
could signal to the American
1187
00:58:18,033 --> 00:58:22,533
people that, in the
case of the farm bill,
1188
00:58:22,533 --> 00:58:27,933
that we have all the necessary
elements of that important
1189
00:58:27,934 --> 00:58:31,300
legislation taken care of on
behalf of our agricultural
1190
00:58:31,300 --> 00:58:36,100
sector as well as on behalf of
Americans who depend on food
1191
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:38,333
and nutrition assistance.
1192
00:58:38,333 --> 00:58:40,734
And when it comes to
comprehensive immigration
1193
00:58:40,734 --> 00:58:42,967
reform, as I've said
in the past and conservatives
1194
00:58:42,967 --> 00:58:44,166
have said in the past,
1195
00:58:44,166 --> 00:58:49,500
there are many things about
comprehensive immigration
1196
00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:53,934
reform that conservatives
could take to the hustings
1197
00:58:53,934 --> 00:58:55,300
and make a strong case for,
1198
00:58:55,300 --> 00:58:56,900
including strong
economic growth;
1199
00:58:56,900 --> 00:59:00,500
including bringing people out
of the shadows and making sure
1200
00:59:00,500 --> 00:59:05,500
that they get to the back of the
line in the process to become
1201
00:59:05,500 --> 00:59:08,567
citizens and that they're
paying all their taxes;
1202
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including holding businesses
accountable so that everybody
1203
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,667
plays by the same set of rules;
including and making further
1204
00:59:14,667 --> 00:59:16,500
improvements to our
border security;
1205
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:19,000
including making necessary
reforms to our legal immigration
1206
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,467
system so that our high-tech
industries in particular
1207
00:59:22,467 --> 00:59:28,367
can take advantage of the talent
that we see in American
1208
00:59:28,367 --> 00:59:32,233
universities with foreign
students who want to stay here,
1209
00:59:32,233 --> 00:59:35,266
want to start businesses,
want to go work for startups.
1210
00:59:35,266 --> 00:59:39,200
So there's a lot to like in
comprehensive immigration reform
1211
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:43,232
and a lot that Republicans
and conservatives could like.
1212
00:59:43,233 --> 00:59:44,700
And a lot of
Republicans support it.
1213
00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:45,799
Let's not lose sight of that.
1214
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,367
It passed the Senate with
a bipartisan majority,
1215
00:59:49,367 --> 00:59:50,533
a strong one.
1216
00:59:50,533 --> 00:59:55,366
It has support from across
the political spectrum --
1217
00:59:55,367 --> 01:00:00,633
law enforcement, evangelicals,
business, labor.
1218
01:00:00,633 --> 01:00:06,332
It has support from very,
very senior Republican lawmakers
1219
01:00:06,333 --> 01:00:11,867
and a former
President and governors.
1220
01:00:11,867 --> 01:00:17,367
So there's a real opportunity
here for getting something
1221
01:00:17,367 --> 01:00:22,900
significant done for our economy
and our future that could be
1222
01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:26,400
heralded as a bipartisan
success story.
1223
01:00:28,433 --> 01:00:29,767
Ann, I'll give you the last one.
1224
01:00:29,767 --> 01:00:30,767
>> The Press:
Thank you very much.
1225
01:00:30,767 --> 01:00:31,933
Back on the NSA.
1226
01:00:31,934 --> 01:00:33,333
When the President volunteered
the phrase yesterday
1227
01:00:33,333 --> 01:00:36,967
that he will recommend
"self-restraint" on the NSA,
1228
01:00:36,967 --> 01:00:41,033
does that indicate that even if
he hasn't gotten this report yet
1229
01:00:41,033 --> 01:00:44,799
that he believes the NSA's
overall surveillance program is
1230
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,066
important enough that he doesn't
think it needs to be reined
1231
01:00:48,066 --> 01:00:52,533
in to the extent that many of
those who worry about --
1232
01:00:52,533 --> 01:00:54,900
>> Mr. Carney:
Is this like a dissection
of different verbs?
1233
01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:57,300
I think what he
said is pretty clear
1234
01:00:57,300 --> 01:00:59,667
and I think it
reflects his belief --
1235
01:00:59,667 --> 01:01:02,133
as I was saying
earlier to Peter --
1236
01:01:02,133 --> 01:01:06,200
that there are steps that we can
and should take to make sure,
1237
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,899
as he has said
in the past, that we're not --
1238
01:01:08,900 --> 01:01:11,900
that we are doing
everything we need to do
1239
01:01:11,900 --> 01:01:13,033
and collecting
all the information
1240
01:01:13,033 --> 01:01:15,567
that we need to collect --
1241
01:01:15,567 --> 01:01:18,000
because we should collect
it for our safety and security
1242
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,967
and because we
should and can do it
1243
01:01:20,967 --> 01:01:23,066
within the confines of the law,
1244
01:01:23,066 --> 01:01:27,265
but that we're not doing
it just because we can.
1245
01:01:27,266 --> 01:01:32,867
And that's the sort of umbrella
under which these reviews have
1246
01:01:32,867 --> 01:01:37,767
been taking place and how
he is evaluating the options
1247
01:01:37,767 --> 01:01:40,567
available to him when
it comes to the changes
1248
01:01:40,567 --> 01:01:42,500
that are going to be made.
1249
01:01:42,500 --> 01:01:43,467
Thanks, all.
1250
01:01:43,467 --> 01:01:44,667
Have a great weekend.
1251
01:01:44,667 --> 01:01:47,933
I will -- we'll get you a
week ahead as soon as we can
1252
01:01:47,934 --> 01:01:50,700
and more information about
next week as soon as we can.
1253
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:52,700
Take care.
