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Mr. Carney: Good
afternoon,
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ladies and gentlemen.
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Welcome to the
White House.
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I don't have any
announcements
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at the top, so I'll go straight
to the Associated Press.
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Julie.
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The Press: Thanks, Jay.
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Does the White House
believe,
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as Senator Feinstein said this
morning,
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that the CIA improperly searched
a Senate Intel
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Committee computer network?
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Mr. Carney: Here's
what I can tell you.
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This is a matter involving
protocols established
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in 2009 for the interaction
between committee staff
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and CIA staff and
officials as part
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of the investigation the
committee was undergoing.
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There have been periodic
disputes about that
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process and, as you
know, this is under
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investigation, these
matters are under two
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separate investigations --
an IG review as well
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as a referral to the
Department of Justice.
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So I'm not going to
provide an analysis
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or assessment about --
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The Press: That referral
to
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the Department of Justice is not
necessarily an investigation.
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Are you confirming there's
now an investigation --
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Mr. Carney: No, I'm not.
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I would refer you to the
Justice Department for any
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action they may
or may not take.
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But I'm saying that this
is because of a referral
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because of the IG review.
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In terms of allegations
about activity, I'm not
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going to get into that.
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What I can say is that --
you saw the
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CIA Director say today that if
there was any inappropriate
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activity by the CIA or
SSCI staff he would,
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of course, want to get
to the bottom of it.
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And certainly the
President would
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agree with that.
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The Press: But John
Brennan was really careful
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in his language
this morning.
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He said there hadn't been
any CIA hacking
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of the Senate Intel
computer network.
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Can you at least say that
the White House was aware
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that there was a search
that happened,
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whether or not you believe
it was proper?
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Mr. Carney: Any specifics
about the charges I'm not
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going to get into.
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What I can tell you
is a couple of things.
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First, it's important to
stand back
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and look at what we're talking
about here.
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We are talking about
an investigation
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into activities that occurred
under the previous
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administration that then
candidate
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Barack Obama strenuously
opposed, that he promised
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to end and which he ended very
shortly after
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being sworn into office.
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He supports -- the
President
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does and the administration does --
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the committee's investigation, its work.
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In fact, the President has
made clear he seeks
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the declassification of the
findings of that report
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when it is completed.
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So I think that's
important
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as a starting point.
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And again, when it comes
to the interactions
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between the agency, on
the one hand,
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and the committee, on the other,
these are matters that are
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under review by an IG
and are the subject
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of a referral to the Justice
Department,
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so I'm not going to get into
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specifics about allegations.
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The Press: Senator
Feinstein said
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that in 2010, when the CIA, she
alleges, took documents
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off of this computer
network,
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she brought this to the White
House, had a conversation
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with the White House counsel.
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Do you know if she's
brought this matter
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of the January search to the
White House counsel?
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Mr. Carney: Again, I don't
have --
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well, I don't have a specific
readout of any meeting.
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What I can say is the
White House counsel would
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get involved in this kind
of discussion
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about this process because of
institutional concerns
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surrounding these matters,
again, even in this case,
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matters that involve a
previous administration
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or previous White House.
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The Press: So the White
House counsel has been
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involved in conversations
about this January search?
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Mr. Carney: That's
not what I said.
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I don't have a specific --
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The Press: You said
they would be involved.
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Mr. Carney: Again, they
would be involved
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in discussions about some of
the issues between
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the committee and the CIA
because of institutional
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concerns involving
prerogatives and national
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security issues, again,
having to do with
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the previous administration
or previous White House.
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The Press: And has the
President or any senior
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staff spoken to John
Brennan about this matter?
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Mr. Carney: Well, let me
just say, folks here
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and in the administration
have been in regular
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consultation with Chairman
Feinstein about
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the broader issues here.
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We've made clear that we
want to see the report's
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findings declassified.
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And obviously, there have
been conversations
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as a routine matter between the
administration,
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the White House, the Director
and the Chairman.
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Mark.
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The Press: I wanted to ask
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you about Malaysia briefly.
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Is the FBI not
sending a team?
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Have the other U.S.
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officials participating in
the investigation
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arrived and made any reports yet
that you can talk about?
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And also, could you
comment on the Iranian
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origin of the two
individuals who appear
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to have used stolen passports
to board the flight?
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Mr. Carney: What I can
tell you is that
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the United States government
is in communication across
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agencies and with
international partners
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to provide any appropriate
assistance
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in the investigation.
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Officials from the
National Transportation
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Safety Board and the
Federal Aviation
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Administration have
arrived in the region
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to provide necessary
assistance --
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any necessary assistance.
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The FBI is involved, also
providing assistance.
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But in terms of officials
that have arrived,
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that's from the NTSP and the FAA.
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Also, the 7th Fleet has
sent assets
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to assist in search efforts.
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These include a PC-3 Orion
aircraft from the Kadena
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Airbase in Okinawa, which
has long-range search
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radar and communications capabilities
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to contribute to the search efforts.
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In addition to the USS
Pinckney,
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an Arleigh Burke-class guided
missile destroyer, the USS Kidd,
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an Arleigh Burke-class
missile destroyer,
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is now in the vicinity and they
have helicopters equipped
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for search
efforts on board.
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The Pinckney and Kidd are
working alongside a host
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of other nations -- U.S.,
China, Malaysia, Thailand,
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Singapore, Indonesia,
Vietnam and Australia.
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As of this morning, there
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and rotary-wing aircraft
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and 40 ships that are searching for Flight 370.
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So this is an
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On the matter that you
raised in terms of the
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passports, I can tell you
that we do not have enough
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information -- and this
was the case yesterday --
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to comment on the causes
of this incident.
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I would note what Interpol
has said about those
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issues involving the
fraudulent passports,
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but we don't have any
information
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at this point yet that would
allow us to make a conclusion
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about the cause.
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The Press: On Ukraine, the
United States is today
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conducting joint air
drills in Poland and,
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apparently, also planning
joint exercises with
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Bulgaria and Romania
in the Black Sea.
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What, if any, message
should Russia
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draw from those exercises?
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Mr. Carney: Well, first
of all, that we obviously
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have provided stepped-up
assistance to those
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countries, in this case,
and this is part of our
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effort to work with our
international partners
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and allies and to speak in a
clear voice,
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together, that the actions taken
by Russia to intervene
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militarily in
contravention of
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international law and in
violation of Ukraine's
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territorial integrity is
something
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that we all oppose.
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So we are working to
see if the Russians
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are willing to resolve this
matter diplomatically.
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Secretary Kerry has been
in regular contact with
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Foreign Minister Lavrov;
they spoke again today.
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And those conversations
will continue.
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In the meantime, as we've
made clear, there have
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been and there will be
costs to Russia's action.
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And we have a flexible
tool in the executive
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order that the President
signed that will
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allow us to calibrate the cost
depending on the decisions
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that Russia makes,
depending on whether
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or not Russia decides to
avail itself
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of an opportunity here to pursue
its concerns
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in Ukraine in a peaceful,
diplomatic way.
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The Press: On to a
domestic issue,
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if I could -- this is about
the GM recall.
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This is a recall affecting
something like 1.6 million
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cars for a flaw that was
responsible for 13 deaths,
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of problems first reported
10 years ago, and Congress
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is now investigating the
regulator's response.
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Is the White House
satisfied
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with the way the regulator handled this?
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Mr. Carney: Well, I can
tell
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you that the National Highway
Traffic Safety Administration
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has opened a formal
investigation into whether
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GM shared the information they
had about this issue as quickly
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as they should have.
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So since that
investigation has been
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opened, I would have to
refer
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you to the NHTSA for more details.
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The Press: Thanks.
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Mr. Carney: Jim.
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The Press: Getting back
to Senator Feinstein's
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comments, she said earlier
this morning, "the CIA
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just went and searched the
committee's computer."
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Is it the White House
position that she's wrong?
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Mr. Carney: Jim, as I
think I just said, there's
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a review by an Inspector
General,
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there's a referral to the
Department of Justice,
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so I'm not going to comment on
specific allegations about
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the disputes over the
protocols
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that were established in 2009.
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The Press: Senator
Feinstein is pretty
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careful about what she
says and does not say on
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the Senate floor.
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For her to go -- for
the Chair of the Senate
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Intelligence Committee to
go to the floor and make
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that kind of serious
allegation,
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it just seems that it would
warrant a stronger response
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from this White House as to
whether or not it's true,
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not just come back with,
we'll get back
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to you on this.
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Mr. Carney: No, that's
not what I said, Jim.
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I think you might have
noted that the
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Director of the CIA gave an
interview today in which
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he addressed these
issues on the record.
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The Press: -- on hacking.
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She's saying
searching computers.
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Mr. Carney: He was asked
many questions
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by one of Chuck's colleagues and
answered
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them I think forthrightly.
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So I would point
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you to the CIA Director's comments.
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And then I would note
that there is an active
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Inspector General review
of this matter;
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there is referral to the
Department of Justice,
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so I can refer you to the
Justice Department.
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And I can say that,
again, the White House's
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perspective on this is
reflected in the fact
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that we have made clear to the
committee that we support
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declassification of the
findings of the report.
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That report, as I
understand it, again,
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looking at what the CIA
Director said today,
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has not been submitted for
declassification yet.
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But we support
that process.
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After all, this is an
investigation into
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practices that the
President strongly
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opposed, that he
made clear that were
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inconsistent with our
values as a nation
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and that he ended shortly
after taking office.
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The Press: And getting
back to Crimea, you
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mentioned that Secretary
Kerry
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and Foreign Minister Lavrov had spoken.
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Have the Russians
acknowledged these moves
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that they've
taken in Crimea?
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I know that as of late
last week,
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there were still some questions
as to whether they'd even
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acknowledged having
forces in Crimea.
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Has President Putin
acknowledged this?
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Has the Foreign Minister
acknowledged this?
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Mr. Carney: It's fair
to say --
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and this is reflected in public
comments --
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that there is a disagreement
about basic facts and,
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on the one hand, you have the
facts as we know them,
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that are clearly established and
that are agreed
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to by people around the region
and the world, and then
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the facts being asserted
by Russian government
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officials that just don't
reflect
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what's actually happened.
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And, again, as I've said
over the past week,
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the reports about lawlessness
or abuse of Russian ethnic
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Ukrainians in Eastern
Ukraine have
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no credible foundation as far
as we can say.
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The Press: No progress has
been made on just agreeing
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on what the facts are?
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Mr. Carney: Well, our
focus is on resolving
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this diplomatically
and peacefully.
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We acknowledge that Russia
has real interests
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in Ukraine, and deep,
historical, cultural and
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economic ties to Ukraine.
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And we believe that it is
entirely appropriate and
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possible for Ukraine to
integrate further with
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Europe, which is what so
many Ukrainians desire,
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and even as it does so,
maintain its very close
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and important relationship
and ties to Russia.
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That is as it should be,
in our view,
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and it is as it should be
because it is what the Ukrainian
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people have expressed they want.
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What is not acceptable is
a violation
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of Ukrainian sovereignty,
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a violation of Ukraine's territorial integrity.
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And that is what
we have seen.
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And we are working very
hard diplomatically
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on an effort to have the
Russians pursue
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an off-ramp here -- to take
an off-ramp here
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so that these disputes can be
resolved diplomatically.
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If the concern here is
about the plight
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of ethnic Russians in Crimea or
in other parts of Ukraine,
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there is a way to address
that that does not require
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the illegal mobilization
of foreign troops or the
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annexation of -- an
illegal annexation
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of the sovereign territory
of another state.
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The Press: And can I ask
you very quickly
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about healthcare.gov?
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I notice you're not
"standing between two
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ferns," but I just wanted
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-- does the President have an
expectation as to where you're
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going to be -- do you guys have
an expectation
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as to where you're going to be
at the end of this month?
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I know we might here some
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enrollment numbers later today.
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Mr. Carney: I believe
that's the case
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that CMS will be releasing
figures through February.
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There's been some
reporting that I think
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already indicates roughly
where we're going to be.
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And we're confident in
this final month
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of the open enrollment period
that a lot of Americans
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are going to sign up
and that
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a lot of young Americans are
going to sign up.
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We saw that in earlier
numbers,
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that the growth in enrollments
is substantial
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in the 18-34 age category, and
we expect that to continue.
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The President's interview
with Zach Galifianakis
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on Between Two Ferns was
designed to reach
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Americans where they live.
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And they watch the show in
huge numbers --
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I think the average video gets
something
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like 6 million views.
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I'm convinced we're going
to break that average.
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And in fact, as I was
walking out here,
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I think we were close to 3
million,
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and that's a good thing.
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More importantly, we have
seen that Funny or Die --
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at least, again, as I was
walking out here -- was
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the number-one referral
to healthcare.gov
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-- referral source late this morning.
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So that's a good thing.
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We're engaged in an effort
to reach every --
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what did you say?
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The Press: --
everything else --
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Mr. Carney: I think what
it says is that gone are
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the days when your
broadcasts,
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or yours, or yours, can reach
everybody that we need to reach.
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And --
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The Press: You bring in
Zach Galifianakis
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and all your problems are solved?
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Mr. Carney: I
didn't say that.
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We're involved in a
multifaceted effort
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to reach communities out
there of folks who can
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benefit from quality,
affordable health
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insurance, can avail
themselves of the options
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that they'll find
on healthcare.gov.
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And we're looking for
creative ways to do that.
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This was one of them.
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The Press: -- explain
that, though?
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If it's the number-one
referral --
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like how many referrals did you
get from that?
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What does that mean?
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Mr. Carney: CMS
might have it.
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It means that --
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The Press: Today,
they would --
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Mr. Carney: Since it
went live,
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the number of referrals to
healthcare.gov
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or site referrals was
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highest from Funny or
Die, as I understand it.
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The Press: -- information
on how many referrals
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you got from Zach
Galifianakis?
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Mr. Carney: I don't
have a specific number.
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The point is not the
number within a few hours,
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but that very quickly this
video went viral
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and that -- not just because
people thought it was funny
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and the regular viewers of
Funny or Die clicked
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on it and watched it, but that
it was getting folks --
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the video itself was
causing the action that
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we hoped it would cause,
which is getting folks
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to go to healthcare.gov
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and look at the options
available
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to them and hopefully enroll.
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The Press: Can you make
sure we get those numbers?
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Because we need to
be able to verify.
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You can't just say this is
where
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all the referrals are coming
from without
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a number to back that up.
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Mr. Carney: We'll get you
the information
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we have on it.
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I mean it's -- we'll
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get you the information we have.
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This is part of an effort
to enroll as many people
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as we can before the open
enrollment period ends.
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And you'll obviously judge
very critically
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when the time comes how we've
done in that effort,
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as you have all along.
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I can assure you that the
Funny or Die video will
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be one of the reasons we
get young Americans
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to healthcare.gov,
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one of the reasons we get
young Americans
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to enroll in health insurance
programs,
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but not the only way.
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The Press: Jay, how much
discussion was there
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in the White House about the
dignity of the office
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and whether or not -- in order
to reach these people
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who don't watch us at 6:30
p.m., or who don't watch
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this briefing -- how much
-- the balance there,
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how much the dignity of the
office might be lost?
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This was an interview like
no other probably
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ever done by a President.
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Mr. Carney: Safe to say.
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The Press: So how much
discussion was there
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in the White House
about this?
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Mr. Carney: We're
constantly looking
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at different ways to reach
Americans who don't
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necessarily get
information about
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healthcare.gov
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from evening news
broadcasts or from the
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newspapers, but who might
either watch
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the town hall we did last week
with Spanish-language networks,
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or watch Funny or Die, or
watch some of the other
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things we've done -- the
webMD interview that we're
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doing, and get the
information they need
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or at least get motivated to
find the information
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they need to decide whether
or not they're
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going to enroll.
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The Press: I understand
the purpose,
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but was the presidency in any way --
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the presidency -- damaged or --
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Mr. Carney: No.
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The Press: -- lost
dignity because of this?
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Mr. Carney: I mean,
we obviously assess
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opportunities that we have
and look at whether
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or not they're going to be
successful and wise.
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I think we made the
right call here.
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The Press: Did the
President know the
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questions that were
going to be asked?
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Was it a comedy routine
that was done in advance,
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or was this an
actual interview?
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How much did he know about
what going to happen?
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Mr. Carney: I think we
knew that there would
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be an opportunity to talk
about healthcare.gov
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-- as the President says
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in it, that's why he was
doing it --
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and sort of loosely what the
interview might look like.
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But there's a lot of
adlibbing in there.
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The Press: Would you
call it scripted, or no?
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Mr. Carney: I don't get
into --
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you can ask the Funny or Die people.
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I can tell you there's
a lot of adlibbing.
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The Press: On the CIA
allegations
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from Senator Feinstein, two
things are on the table
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-- a violation of the 4th
Amendment,
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alleged; violation of an
executive order
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against domestic spying, alleged
-- serious allegations.
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Do either of those raise
in the President's mind
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doubts about what the CIA
has done on his watch
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or John Brennan's leadership
of the agency?
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Mr. Carney: The President
has great confidence
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in John Brennan and
confidence
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in our intelligence community
and in professionals at the CIA.
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On the specific matters
that you correctly noted
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are alleged, they're under
review and
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I'm not going to comment on
particulars of matters
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that are under review.
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I would point you to what
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the Director of the CIA said today publicly.
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The Press: You mentioned
that this administration
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is supportive of
declassification
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of the Senate report.
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As you know, there are
responses from the CIA to
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that Senate report, also
classified, and a separate
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report that was ordered by
Leon Panetta
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when he was CIA Director,
also classified.
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Does this administration
support the
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declassification of those
other two sources
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of information and
back-and-forth
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about the underlying question?
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Mr. Carney: I don't have
an answer
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to the questions about other reports.
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What I can tell you is we
support declassification
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of the findings of the
Senate Select Intelligence
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Committee report and that
that review
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or report is still being worked
on, as I understand it,
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and has not yet been completed
and, thus,
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submitted for assessment and
declassification,
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which obviously is an important
process because
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of the matters that are
subject of the review.
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But we strongly support
that, and we strongly --
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again, let's remember
what this is about.
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This is about so-called
enhanced interrogation
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techniques that this
President
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made very clear he opposed as a
candidate and when he was
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in the Senate, that he pledged
to end because he did not
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believe the techniques
were consistent with our
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values as a nation and
that
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he did end very soon after
taking the oath of office.
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The Press: Well, let me
follow the logic
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of the President supporting the
CIA and the CIA Director.
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Brennan said at the
Council of Foreign
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Relations this morning
that the Senate
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report has a lot of things which
he disagrees with --
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contentions,
point of facts.
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He said there were
nuances missed.
506
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So for the public's
understanding of this
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issue why not also support
declassification
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of the CIA answers and the
Panetta report --
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Mr. Carney: I'll take
the question, Major.
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What I know is we support
and have long supported
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the declassification of
the findings
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of the SSCI report.
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What I also would point --
we're talking about the
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findings here, and that
would be findings
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and assessments and
conclusions
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that you just noted.
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But on the other matters,
I'll have
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to take the question.
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The Press: Okay.
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On Ukraine, can you help
us understand
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if there is something you're
trying
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to tell the international community,
523
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and specifically Vladimir Putin, when you say that
524
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Russia has real interests in
Ukraine, deep historical ties?
525
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Is there a way that this
can be finessed so that
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Crimea stays a part of
Ukraine but Russian
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interests are politically
recognized in a more
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visible way or a more
palatable way to Russia?
529
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In other words, that
this can be solved while
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meeting both the interests
of now a government
531
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that's not only patrolling the
streets,
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cutting off the Internet,
shutting down all media,
533
00:24:00,367 --> 00:24:03,433
putting a complete stranglehold
on a part of a sovereign nation
534
00:24:03,433 --> 00:24:05,934
-- can you get them to
back away from that
535
00:24:05,934 --> 00:24:07,966
and find a way to thread a
needle
536
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diplomatically and politically?
537
00:24:09,867 --> 00:24:13,133
Is that the
ultimate goal here?
538
00:24:13,133 --> 00:24:14,600
And if that is the
ultimate goal,
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00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,065
can you explain what that
might look like?
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Mr. Carney: The goal
is to see the situation
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deescalate and for the
Russian military personnel
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that are in Crimea to
return to their bases
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and to return to levels that
are consistent with the
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basing agreement Russia
has with Ukraine,
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and for all violations of
Ukraine's sovereignty
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by a foreign nation and
violations
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of Ukraine's territorial
integrity to cease.
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What we're talking about
when we say that
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we absolutely recognize that
Russia has interests
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in Ukraine and they include
in Crimea, we're referring
551
00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:08,100
specifically to the Black
Sea Fleet base,
552
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for example, which is in
Crimea, a Russian naval
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base, as part of an
agreement
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with the sovereign nation of
Ukraine and that
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we completely respect that.
556
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And that's consistent
with our support for the
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Budapest Memorandum of
1994 that establishes
558
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that agreement, and is
consistent
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with the way we've approached
this challenge.
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We're also sympathetic to
concerns that Russia has
561
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as a general matter when
it comes to either Russian
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nationals or ethnic
Russians in Ukraine
563
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and whether or not their
rights
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are being protected.
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And that's why we support
dialogue between
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the Russian and Ukrainian
government with
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international partners as
part of a process
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that would lead to sending of
international monitors
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from the OSCE or the
United Nations
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who can on the ground assess
whether or not the rights
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of ethnic Russians in Eastern
Ukraine or Crimea
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or anywhere else are
573
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in jeopardy or being violated.
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We have noted that thus
far reports that that
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is happening haven't proven
to be credible,
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but we would certainly make
clear and have made
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clear that it is our expectation
that the Ukrainian government
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honor the rights of
all of its citizens.
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The Press: Does there come
a point where Russian
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behavior in Crimea --
meaning these patrols,
581
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the cutting off of media,
blocking of the Internet
582
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-- erases their legitimate
other interests there
583
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:52,033
because they have acted as
an international bully?
584
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Mr. Carney: I think the
best way to look at this,
585
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Major, is that there is
an opportunity here
586
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to prevent the situation from
becoming more acute
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and to prevent the cost to
Russia
588
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from becoming even higher.
589
00:27:10,433 --> 00:27:11,934
There have been and there
will be costs
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for the actions that Russia
has already taken
591
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by intervening militarily
in a sovereign state.
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00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:21,033
We've talked about those
at least
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from the United States.
594
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We've seen actions taken
by the European Union.
595
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And as you know, we are
able to,
596
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because of the powers spelled
out in the executive order,
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00:27:38,233 --> 00:27:43,066
calibrate sanctions and other
actions depending
598
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on the steps that Russia takes.
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00:27:46,633 --> 00:27:47,800
As I noted, I think
yesterday,
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there are a lot of costs here
associated with Russia's
601
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,166
decision to take this action
602
00:27:54,166 --> 00:27:55,633
in violation of international law.
603
00:27:55,633 --> 00:27:58,667
It is certainly not
in Russia's long-term
604
00:27:58,667 --> 00:28:02,966
interests to have a
destabilized Ukraine.
605
00:28:02,967 --> 00:28:04,200
It is not in Russia's
interests
606
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to find itself isolated from
international
607
00:28:06,734 --> 00:28:08,600
opinion on these matters, and
certainly
608
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not in Russia's interests
economically to see investors
609
00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:16,734
around the world think twice
about whether or not Russia
610
00:28:16,734 --> 00:28:20,332
is the proper environment for
further investment given
611
00:28:20,333 --> 00:28:21,934
the actions that Russia
has taken
612
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and the international reaction
to those actions.
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So we are urging
Russia
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to work with the international
community to pursue
615
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a path of deescalation and a
path of dialogue
616
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with the Ukrainian government so
that these matters
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can be resolved.
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00:28:38,734 --> 00:28:39,734
Ed.
619
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The Press: Jay, on the
CIA, you started out by
620
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saying you can't say much
because
621
00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:45,967
the Inspector General of the CIA
is investigating this.
622
00:28:45,967 --> 00:28:48,066
How can we trust the CIA
to investigate
623
00:28:48,066 --> 00:28:50,734
itself on whether it covered
up something?
624
00:28:50,734 --> 00:28:52,867
Mr. Carney: Ed, you know
that inspectors
625
00:28:52,867 --> 00:28:54,300
general are independent, correct?
626
00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:56,066
The Press: They're
supposed to be, by law.
627
00:28:56,066 --> 00:28:57,433
Mr. Carney: Are you
doubting his independence
628
00:28:57,433 --> 00:28:58,433
or her independence?
629
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The Press: In general,
inspectors general
630
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:03,265
independence has been
questioned, yes.
631
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So you're confident the
CIA Inspector General
632
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:06,300
will get to the bottom of it?
633
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:06,934
Mr. Carney: I think that
there is an inspector
634
00:29:06,934 --> 00:29:09,399
general review, an
IG review underway.
635
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As I mentioned, there is
also a referral
636
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:12,834
to the Department of Justice.
637
00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:14,433
And so, since these
matters are generally
638
00:29:14,433 --> 00:29:15,734
under investigation, I'm
not going
639
00:29:15,734 --> 00:29:17,533
to get into specific allegations.
640
00:29:17,533 --> 00:29:18,734
I would also point you to
what
641
00:29:18,734 --> 00:29:22,800
the Director of the CIA himself
said about these matters,
642
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,100
which is that, "If there was any
inappropriate actions that
643
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:26,766
were taken related to that
review either
644
00:29:26,767 --> 00:29:30,100
by CIA or by the SSCI staff" --
that's the committee staff --
645
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:31,265
"I'd be the first to say
we need
646
00:29:31,266 --> 00:29:32,934
to get to the bottom of it."
647
00:29:32,934 --> 00:29:35,100
And certainly, as a
general principle,
648
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:36,100
we support that view.
649
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:37,667
The Press: But would the
White House consider
650
00:29:37,667 --> 00:29:39,199
an independent counsel, or
you're confident
651
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,000
the CIA can handle this?
652
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,367
Mr. Carney: I think
you're, as a general
653
00:29:43,367 --> 00:29:44,667
matter, impugning the
independence
654
00:29:44,667 --> 00:29:47,332
of inspectors general around town.
655
00:29:47,333 --> 00:29:49,467
The Press: Well, I'm
asking would you consider
656
00:29:49,467 --> 00:29:50,467
an independent counsel?
657
00:29:50,467 --> 00:29:51,500
Mr. Carney: I would note
that you cited inspector
658
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:52,800
general reports
frequently in the past.
659
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,399
But I think that
this is under review.
660
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,333
The Press: You also
correctly pointed
661
00:29:56,333 --> 00:29:58,900
out that the alleged abuses on
detention
662
00:30:12,834 --> 00:30:14,066
that are in the report, the
detention abuses happened
663
00:30:14,066 --> 00:30:15,533
under the Bush administration.
664
00:30:15,533 --> 00:30:18,567
However, a Democratic
Senator, Dianne Feinstein,
665
00:30:18,567 --> 00:30:21,633
is alleging that Senate
aides'
666
00:30:21,633 --> 00:30:25,500
computer files were gone through
by the CIA, as was suggested
667
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:27,767
earlier, during the Obama
administration.
668
00:30:27,767 --> 00:30:29,166
Is the White House Counsel
involved
669
00:30:29,166 --> 00:30:31,567
at all in conducting a review
to make
670
00:30:31,567 --> 00:30:33,800
sure that the administration
itself
671
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,233
knows exactly what happened?
672
00:30:36,233 --> 00:30:41,066
Mr. Carney: The Inspector
General is conducting
673
00:30:41,066 --> 00:30:44,967
a review, and there is a
referral
674
00:30:44,967 --> 00:30:47,867
to the Department of Justice.
675
00:30:47,867 --> 00:30:50,233
That is, in each -- I
mean,
676
00:30:50,233 --> 00:30:52,734
certainly with the Inspector
General that's the appropriate
677
00:30:52,734 --> 00:30:55,600
avenues for these things -- by
which these things
678
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,100
can be investigated and reviewed.
679
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:03,533
I noted earlier the role
that White House Counsel
680
00:31:03,533 --> 00:31:07,300
has played in discussions
about the process and
681
00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:09,166
disputes about the process
since protocols
682
00:31:09,166 --> 00:31:11,100
were put in place in 2009, but
when it comes
683
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:13,899
to an investigation -- or a
review,
684
00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:17,700
as it's called by the IG --
that's for the IG to do.
685
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:18,700
The Press: Last one, then.
686
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:20,300
If you take a step back
from this particular
687
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:22,265
investigation, over the
last year
688
00:31:22,266 --> 00:31:25,066
or so the American people have
seen that the surveillance
689
00:31:25,066 --> 00:31:28,400
by the NSA was a lot wider
than originally suggested
690
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,867
to the American people,
that reporters' phone
691
00:31:30,867 --> 00:31:34,233
records at the AP and FOX
were gone through,
692
00:31:34,233 --> 00:31:35,966
and that now we're hearing
that
693
00:31:35,967 --> 00:31:38,934
maybe Senate aides had their
computer files gone through.
694
00:31:38,934 --> 00:31:40,200
Why should the American
people trust some
695
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,066
of these intelligence agencies?
696
00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:45,066
Mr. Carney: Again, Ed,
when it comes to this
697
00:31:45,066 --> 00:31:47,600
specific set of
allegations
698
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,800
and reports that are under
review, I can't comment on them,
699
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,800
and I won't.
700
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,500
What I can say is that
we support
701
00:31:56,500 --> 00:32:03,000
what Director Brennan said
today, which is that if there's
702
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,834
any inappropriate actions that
are discovered through the
703
00:32:04,834 --> 00:32:06,934
process of these reviews,
we would --
704
00:32:06,934 --> 00:32:09,367
we support what the Director
said about getting
705
00:32:09,367 --> 00:32:10,367
to the bottom of it.
706
00:32:11,166 --> 00:32:13,200
The Press: I guess what I
don't understand --
707
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,767
is the administration not
troubled -- this is not
708
00:32:14,767 --> 00:32:16,667
Darrell Issa making this
allegation;
709
00:32:16,667 --> 00:32:19,500
this is Dianne Feinstein, Mark
Udall, Patrick Leahy,
710
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:22,133
Harry Reid all taking the Senate
floor,
711
00:32:22,133 --> 00:32:24,867
making this allegation of the CIA.
712
00:32:24,867 --> 00:32:26,399
Is the President
even troubled
713
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,333
by the allegation?
714
00:32:28,333 --> 00:32:29,233
I mean, you have been very
careful
715
00:32:29,233 --> 00:32:30,834
not to comment at all.
716
00:32:30,834 --> 00:32:33,700
I would assume that when
Democratic senators -- and
717
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:35,533
if he were still one, my
guess is he would
718
00:32:35,533 --> 00:32:39,100
be on the floor raising
this same eyebrow.
719
00:32:41,767 --> 00:32:44,700
Mr. Carney: Chuck, I mean,
obviously
720
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:49,200
the President is generally aware
of the disputes that have --
721
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,433
The Press: He's aware,
but not troubled?
722
00:32:50,433 --> 00:32:51,734
Mr. Carney: I'm not going
to characterize
723
00:32:51,734 --> 00:32:55,466
his point of view on allegations
724
00:32:55,467 --> 00:32:56,667
that are under investigation.
725
00:32:56,667 --> 00:32:59,500
What I can say as a
general matter
726
00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:01,834
is that everyone in this
administration supports
727
00:33:01,834 --> 00:33:04,500
the perspective that
Director Brennan
728
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:08,967
expressed to Andrea Mitchell a
couple of hours
729
00:33:08,967 --> 00:33:11,834
ago about the fact that if
there's any inappropriate
730
00:33:11,834 --> 00:33:15,533
activity that's uncovered by
these investigations,
731
00:33:15,533 --> 00:33:17,899
that he would support getting
to the bottom of it.
732
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:21,233
So that's certainly
our view,
733
00:33:21,233 --> 00:33:22,500
it's the administration's view.
734
00:33:23,233 --> 00:33:24,033
The Press: But this seems
to be, then,
735
00:33:24,033 --> 00:33:26,466
either he's not running
the CIA and he's got folks that
736
00:33:26,467 --> 00:33:27,867
are being rogue underneath him
737
00:33:27,867 --> 00:33:29,734
and doing this without him, or
he's been involved in this.
738
00:33:29,734 --> 00:33:31,833
Mr. Carney: You're
basing a question
739
00:33:31,834 --> 00:33:33,500
on a hypothetical about
an outcome
740
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:34,600
of an investigation.
741
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,533
The Press: It's
not a hypothetical.
742
00:33:35,533 --> 00:33:36,033
Dianne Feinstein is the
743
00:33:36,033 --> 00:33:37,065
Chairman of the Senate
Intelligence
744
00:33:37,066 --> 00:33:38,066
Committee making this allegation.
745
00:33:38,066 --> 00:33:38,600
Mr. Carney: The allegation
-- absolutely,
746
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,100
the allegation exists and
it's under investigation.
747
00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:40,466
The Press: This is not --
again, this is not Darrell
748
00:33:40,467 --> 00:33:44,266
Issa; this is not
some partisan hit.
749
00:33:44,433 --> 00:33:44,867
Mr. Carney: Absolutely.
750
00:33:44,867 --> 00:33:46,399
And we work very closely
with Chairman Feinstein
751
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,400
and --
752
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,600
The Press: But protects
everything else,
753
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,065
been very supportive of most of
the controversial intelligence
754
00:33:53,066 --> 00:33:56,400
decisions that's made
by this administration.
755
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,767
So one would think she's
got a lot of credibility
756
00:33:57,767 --> 00:33:59,033
here if she's going to
make
757
00:33:59,033 --> 00:33:59,433
an allegation like that.
758
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:00,500
Mr. Carney: And what
I would say is that,
759
00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:02,166
appropriately, these
matters are under review
760
00:34:02,166 --> 00:34:05,033
by the authorities that
are supposed
761
00:34:05,033 --> 00:34:06,433
to review them, and that I'm
not going
762
00:34:06,433 --> 00:34:10,800
to make an assessment about
allegations that are under
763
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,633
review or investigation.
764
00:34:13,433 --> 00:34:14,300
The Press: How long has
the President
765
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:15,900
been aware of these allegations?
766
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:16,567
Is it since Udall
wrote the letter --
767
00:34:16,734 --> 00:34:18,333
Mr. Carney: I don't have
a specific conversation
768
00:34:18,333 --> 00:34:21,400
involving anyone here to
report except
769
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,333
to say that there is general
communication obviously
770
00:34:25,333 --> 00:34:27,433
between the Chairman and
the White House
771
00:34:27,433 --> 00:34:31,833
and the Director on a range of issues,
772
00:34:31,833 --> 00:34:34,500
including matters involving the SSCI report.
773
00:34:35,033 --> 00:34:36,232
The Press: But it's fair
to say it seems the
774
00:34:36,233 --> 00:34:39,400
President accepts Director
Brennan's answers
775
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,934
on this more so -- it seems that
Director Brennan
776
00:34:41,934 --> 00:34:44,767
is more credible than Dianne
Feinstein here?
777
00:34:44,766 --> 00:34:46,667
I mean, that's what
it sounds like.
778
00:34:46,667 --> 00:34:47,667
Mr. Carney: Chuck, I
invite you
779
00:34:47,667 --> 00:34:48,667
to make judgments.
780
00:34:48,667 --> 00:34:49,632
That's partly what
you're paid to do.
781
00:34:49,632 --> 00:34:51,132
What I can tell you is
that's not what I said.
782
00:34:51,132 --> 00:34:54,199
I said that we are not
making assessments
783
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,065
publicly about allegations
that have been made.
784
00:34:57,065 --> 00:34:59,799
We are interested in
making sure that the
785
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,066
proper authorities review
and investigate them,
786
00:35:02,066 --> 00:35:04,332
and if there is any
inappropriate activity
787
00:35:04,333 --> 00:35:06,033
we would want to get
to the bottom of it.
788
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:07,600
The Press: Is the
President confident that
789
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,165
Director Brennan has been
straightforward
790
00:35:09,166 --> 00:35:11,033
with him about his version
of events on this?
791
00:35:11,033 --> 00:35:12,100
Mr. Carney: The President
has great confidence
792
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:13,232
in Director Brennan, yes.
793
00:35:13,233 --> 00:35:13,867
The Press: He's confident
on his version of events?
794
00:35:14,033 --> 00:35:15,667
Mr. Carney: Yes -- well,
he's confident
795
00:35:15,667 --> 00:35:16,900
in Director Brennan.
796
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:18,633
I haven't been privy to
conversations between
797
00:35:18,633 --> 00:35:20,966
him and the President on --
and I'm not getting
798
00:35:20,967 --> 00:35:23,867
into specific conversations
about specific subjects
799
00:35:23,867 --> 00:35:26,033
except to say that in
general there have been
800
00:35:26,033 --> 00:35:28,467
communications between the
White House,
801
00:35:28,467 --> 00:35:30,166
the Committee Chairman and the Director.
802
00:35:30,166 --> 00:35:31,567
The Press: Just to go back
-- Senator Feinstein
803
00:35:31,567 --> 00:35:34,100
is alleging a violation of
separation of powers.
804
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:34,866
Mr. Carney: Your
colleagues are beginning
805
00:35:34,867 --> 00:35:35,834
to look pained, Chuck.
806
00:35:35,834 --> 00:35:36,633
The Press: I understand
that,
807
00:35:36,633 --> 00:35:38,933
but you have been very sort of
blasé and not answering.
808
00:35:38,934 --> 00:35:41,400
It just seems
like if a U.S.
809
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,734
senator is making an
allegation -- a U.S.
810
00:35:42,734 --> 00:35:44,933
senator that's normally on
your side -- an allegation
811
00:35:44,934 --> 00:35:47,467
that there's a violation
of separation of powers
812
00:35:47,467 --> 00:35:48,734
here, that's
pretty serious.
813
00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:49,600
Mr. Carney: We take
everything
814
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,667
she says very seriously, and we
take this seriously.
815
00:35:51,667 --> 00:35:52,600
But I'm not going to
comment
816
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,866
on matters that are under
investigation
817
00:35:55,867 --> 00:35:58,367
or review by the appropriate authorities.
818
00:35:58,367 --> 00:35:59,567
Yes.
819
00:35:59,567 --> 00:36:01,667
The Press: How do you
expect this fallout with
820
00:36:01,667 --> 00:36:04,033
Russia over Ukraine to
affect cooperation
821
00:36:04,033 --> 00:36:07,633
on Syria, for example,
on cooperation
822
00:36:07,633 --> 00:36:10,966
on the destruction of the CW and
on the peace process?
823
00:36:11,734 --> 00:36:15,165
Mr. Carney: We obviously
have very important
824
00:36:15,166 --> 00:36:18,600
cooperation with Russia on
the destruction
825
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,133
of Syria's chemical weapons.
826
00:36:20,133 --> 00:36:23,232
We have important
cooperation with Russia on
827
00:36:23,233 --> 00:36:29,166
other matters, including
the issues that are
828
00:36:29,166 --> 00:36:30,633
subject to negotiation
with
829
00:36:30,633 --> 00:36:34,533
the P5-plus-1 and Iran's nuclear program.
830
00:36:34,533 --> 00:36:37,667
And we intend to continue
to work with
831
00:36:37,667 --> 00:36:39,700
all of our partners on those issues.
832
00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:42,600
And I would note, with
regard to the matter
833
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:50,467
of Syria's chemical weapons
that Russia has played
834
00:36:50,467 --> 00:36:52,700
a leading role in making a
commitment on behalf
835
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:57,033
of the Assad regime that
those chemical weapons
836
00:36:57,033 --> 00:37:02,100
stockpiles would be
gathered together,
837
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:03,633
removed from the country
and destroyed.
838
00:37:03,633 --> 00:37:05,866
And so Russia has
responsibilities
839
00:37:05,867 --> 00:37:10,133
to the international community
to fulfill those commitments.
840
00:37:10,667 --> 00:37:14,700
And having said that,
we're obviously
841
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:20,066
very clear about our views of
the actions that Russia has
842
00:37:20,066 --> 00:37:23,200
taken in Ukraine, in
particular in Crimea,
843
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,567
and are very blunt
about those views.
844
00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:30,400
We are also very clear in
our dealings with Russian
845
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,166
officials that there is an
avenue here to deescalate
846
00:37:35,166 --> 00:37:37,800
the situation and work
with the international
847
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,667
community to address the
concerns that Russia has,
848
00:37:42,667 --> 00:37:44,400
ways that are consistent
with international law,
849
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,567
consistent with the
principles
850
00:37:45,567 --> 00:37:47,433
of sovereignty and territorial integrity.
851
00:37:47,433 --> 00:37:49,033
The Press: Jay --
852
00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:50,100
Mr. Carney: Go ahead.
853
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:51,165
The Press: No, just a
different question.
854
00:37:51,166 --> 00:37:52,800
Can you share some
information with us about
855
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,734
Susan Rice's visit to the
United Arab Emirates,
856
00:37:55,734 --> 00:37:58,834
a meeting with the Saudis,
and whether
857
00:37:58,834 --> 00:38:00,567
this is in preparation to the
President's
858
00:38:00,567 --> 00:38:02,367
visit to Riyadh soon?
859
00:38:02,367 --> 00:38:03,400
Mr. Carney: I think we had
a readout
860
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,934
of that -- of her trip.
861
00:38:05,934 --> 00:38:08,100
I don't have anything more
specific on it right now.
862
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:10,500
I would refer you to
the NSC press office.
863
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:11,867
Zach.
864
00:38:11,867 --> 00:38:13,367
The Press: The President
has a pair of fundraisers
865
00:38:13,367 --> 00:38:15,233
tonight, and recently
he's been warning
866
00:38:15,233 --> 00:38:18,433
of complacency among
Democrats
867
00:38:18,433 --> 00:38:19,767
in the midterm election year.
868
00:38:19,767 --> 00:38:21,533
I was wondering if you
could talk a little bit
869
00:38:21,533 --> 00:38:23,567
about why that's a worry
for him,
870
00:38:23,567 --> 00:38:26,600
and what he plans to do -- aside
from attending fundraisers --
871
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,633
to shake the Democrats up
872
00:38:28,633 --> 00:38:30,834
and make sure they're not complacent?
873
00:38:30,834 --> 00:38:33,366
Mr. Carney: Well, he'll
support Democrats and the
874
00:38:33,367 --> 00:38:37,300
committees consistent with
the way he supported them
875
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:38,300
in the past.
876
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:41,100
I think the observation
about complacency is more
877
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:45,667
about statistical reality
when it comes to who votes
878
00:38:45,667 --> 00:38:47,333
in midterm elections.
879
00:38:47,333 --> 00:38:53,333
And it's certainly been
the case that Democrats
880
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,700
tend not to turn out
in the same numbers
881
00:38:57,700 --> 00:38:59,165
in midterms as
Republicans do.
882
00:39:00,133 --> 00:39:02,834
And so the President and
everyone else involved
883
00:39:02,834 --> 00:39:05,500
in the effort to support
Democratic candidates
884
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:08,934
and incumbents is making the
case that it's really
885
00:39:08,934 --> 00:39:11,000
important to turn out and
exercise your right
886
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,633
to vote, whoever you are.
887
00:39:12,633 --> 00:39:17,299
So that's, I think -- that
explains that argument.
888
00:39:17,367 --> 00:39:21,066
And he's going to do a
number of things
889
00:39:21,066 --> 00:39:24,600
over the course of the year
between now and November
890
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,767
to support candidates and
support the party.
891
00:39:27,767 --> 00:39:28,767
April.
892
00:39:28,767 --> 00:39:29,767
The Press: Jay, could
you talk
893
00:39:29,767 --> 00:39:31,399
to us about the numbers that are
expected to come out?
894
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,967
I know you say CMS, but
there's been a constant
895
00:39:33,967 --> 00:39:36,767
call from reporters about
the breakdown numbers
896
00:39:36,767 --> 00:39:38,332
of those who are enrolling.
897
00:39:38,333 --> 00:39:41,767
Are you really expecting
I guess accurate --
898
00:39:41,767 --> 00:39:43,600
as accurate stats as you can
get,
899
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,700
especially as persons who are
enrolling have the option
900
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:50,966
to fill out information about
themselves like race,
901
00:39:50,967 --> 00:39:53,500
gender, and even age?
902
00:39:54,333 --> 00:39:56,800
Mr. Carney: What I can
say, April,
903
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,200
is that we are careful about
making sure that the numbers
904
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,200
we release are accurate.
905
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,000
That explains why some of
the numbers take some time
906
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,633
to gather and vet to
make sure
907
00:40:09,633 --> 00:40:11,133
that they're accurate.
908
00:40:11,133 --> 00:40:14,000
And that's particularly
true when it comes to sort
909
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,200
of numbers that are below
the topline,
910
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,165
not just total enrollments, but
how they break down,
911
00:40:18,166 --> 00:40:20,633
how they break down by age.
912
00:40:21,033 --> 00:40:27,866
So I would point you to
CMS in terms of how they
913
00:40:27,867 --> 00:40:31,033
reach those numbers and
which numbers they're
914
00:40:31,033 --> 00:40:33,266
confident in, in terms
of the breakdowns.
915
00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:34,633
In terms of other
demographic data,
916
00:40:34,633 --> 00:40:35,633
I'm not really sure about that.
917
00:40:35,633 --> 00:40:38,165
I know that we have put
out information about --
918
00:40:38,166 --> 00:40:40,633
in the past about the
percentage of enrollees
919
00:40:40,633 --> 00:40:44,700
who fall into that
18 to 34 category.
920
00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:46,734
But I would refer you to
them in terms of what
921
00:40:46,734 --> 00:40:49,033
specifically they're going
to release this afternoon.
922
00:40:49,033 --> 00:40:51,633
I think it's numbers
through February,
923
00:40:51,633 --> 00:40:54,165
or through March 1st.
924
00:40:54,166 --> 00:40:55,800
In terms of how they break
them down,
925
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,934
I'd refer you to them.
926
00:40:56,934 --> 00:40:59,600
The Press: I say that
saying -- because,
927
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,667
for instance, this Funny or
Die video,
928
00:41:01,667 --> 00:41:03,299
there's a certain core group
you're trying
929
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:05,100
to go after with that video.
930
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,400
Then there was a major
push
931
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,533
for African Americans.
932
00:41:08,533 --> 00:41:10,900
But it strikes us as odd
that you make this push
933
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:13,133
to get these groups to
come in,
934
00:41:13,133 --> 00:41:16,767
and you cannot quantitatively
find which group --
935
00:41:16,767 --> 00:41:19,165
how many people from that group
are enrolled.
936
00:41:19,166 --> 00:41:22,633
Mr. Carney: Well, I don't
know that that's the case,
937
00:41:22,633 --> 00:41:25,133
or how long it takes to
compile that data
938
00:41:25,133 --> 00:41:28,899
or what is available because of
the way that folks fill
939
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:29,900
out their information,
940
00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:34,266
and the way that insurance companies
941
00:41:34,266 --> 00:41:35,667
provide that information.
942
00:41:35,667 --> 00:41:37,200
What I know is that we're
releasing the data
943
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:43,033
that we feel is accurate on
a consistent basis.
944
00:41:43,033 --> 00:41:44,667
We've done that all along.
945
00:41:44,667 --> 00:41:47,967
And in the end, we're
confident that
946
00:41:47,967 --> 00:41:49,900
by the end of this open
enrollment period
947
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:54,266
on March 31st we are going to
see that a substantial number
948
00:41:54,266 --> 00:41:58,567
of Americans enrolled
and purchased health
949
00:41:58,567 --> 00:42:06,633
insurance, and that the
mix will be sufficient
950
00:42:06,633 --> 00:42:09,332
to ensure that the
marketplace --
951
00:42:09,333 --> 00:42:11,767
and the marketplaces --
functions effectively.
952
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:14,100
We've seen that already
with numbers
953
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:18,200
of young Americans hitting a
percentage in terms
954
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,734
of the overall figure for
enrollment that's
955
00:42:22,734 --> 00:42:26,232
consistent with what we
saw in Massachusetts when
956
00:42:26,233 --> 00:42:28,166
they were in their first
open enrollment period.
957
00:42:28,166 --> 00:42:30,567
And we're confident that
come March 31st we're
958
00:42:30,567 --> 00:42:33,734
going to see a mix that
ensures the effectiveness
959
00:42:33,734 --> 00:42:34,734
of the marketplaces.
960
00:42:35,133 --> 00:42:37,966
And every targeted effort
that you're talking about
961
00:42:37,967 --> 00:42:43,667
is designed to make sure
that's the case, and this
962
00:42:43,667 --> 00:42:46,967
is an across-the-board
effort and it's going
963
00:42:46,967 --> 00:42:48,533
to continue right
up until the end.
964
00:42:48,533 --> 00:42:51,200
But we're confident that
we're on track
965
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:56,966
to get sufficient numbers and
the kind of breakdown
966
00:42:56,967 --> 00:42:58,700
demographically that will
make sure --
967
00:42:58,700 --> 00:42:59,700
that will ensure
968
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:00,767
that the marketplaces are effective.
969
00:43:00,967 --> 00:43:01,934
The Press: But the number
from Massachusetts
970
00:43:01,934 --> 00:43:03,367
for young people, it wasn't
the number --
971
00:43:03,367 --> 00:43:05,166
that wasn't your target when
you started.
972
00:43:05,166 --> 00:43:06,467
Mr. Carney: No --
973
00:43:06,467 --> 00:43:07,233
The Press: In other words,
you had
974
00:43:07,233 --> 00:43:07,834
a higher target number.
975
00:43:07,834 --> 00:43:08,500
Mr. Carney: No, the
so-called target was
976
00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:11,734
simply a fact about the
percentage of people
977
00:43:11,734 --> 00:43:13,333
who are uninsured who are
young Americans,
978
00:43:13,333 --> 00:43:15,367
not the percentage of young
Americans
979
00:43:15,367 --> 00:43:16,900
you needed to make sure that the
demographic
980
00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:20,100
pool worked actuarially.
981
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:22,066
And what you saw in
Massachusetts, I think the
982
00:43:22,066 --> 00:43:23,066
figure was roughly --
983
00:43:23,066 --> 00:43:23,899
The Press: Twenty-five --
984
00:43:23,900 --> 00:43:24,667
Mr. Carney: -- 25 to 27
percent is where we were
985
00:43:24,667 --> 00:43:28,633
at the same stage in the
open enrollment period.
986
00:43:28,633 --> 00:43:31,133
The Press: On the CIA
torture report, you said
987
00:43:31,133 --> 00:43:33,133
that the White House
supports declassifying
988
00:43:33,133 --> 00:43:34,200
it and releasing it.
989
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,433
Does that include over the
objections of the CIA --
990
00:43:38,834 --> 00:43:40,066
Mr. Carney: No, I think
Director Brennan spoke
991
00:43:40,066 --> 00:43:43,000
today about he is awaiting
the submission of the
992
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,000
report so that they can
work to declassify it.
993
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,834
There's obviously -- with
all kinds of reports
994
00:43:49,834 --> 00:43:53,165
like these that involve highly
classified information,
995
00:43:53,166 --> 00:43:55,800
the declassification
process is one that has
996
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,967
to be engaged in by the
agencies involved,
997
00:43:58,967 --> 00:44:00,834
in this case CIA.
998
00:44:00,834 --> 00:44:01,734
The Press: And some
have suggested that the
999
00:44:01,734 --> 00:44:04,633
President himself has
the authority to do it.
1000
00:44:04,633 --> 00:44:05,933
Is there any
talk of him --
1001
00:44:05,934 --> 00:44:07,633
Mr. Carney: I'm not sure
that that's the case,
1002
00:44:07,633 --> 00:44:09,700
but I can tell you that he
has made
1003
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:11,600
clear to the committee --
1004
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,232
The Press: Presidents can
declassify
1005
00:44:12,233 --> 00:44:12,734
whatever they want, right?
1006
00:44:12,734 --> 00:44:15,333
Mr. Carney: Well, that
may be the case, Chuck.
1007
00:44:15,333 --> 00:44:17,433
The President has made
clear as President that
1008
00:44:17,433 --> 00:44:19,633
he wants to see the
findings declassified.
1009
00:44:19,633 --> 00:44:21,232
He's made that clear
to the committee.
1010
00:44:21,233 --> 00:44:22,500
He's made that
clear to the CIA.
1011
00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:23,600
He's made that
clear to everyone.
1012
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,900
He's made it clear to you.
1013
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:28,133
The Press: Is there
any deadline for that?
1014
00:44:28,133 --> 00:44:28,533
There's been
a number of --
1015
00:44:28,533 --> 00:44:29,165
Mr. Carney: Again, I think
we are --
1016
00:44:29,166 --> 00:44:32,133
I think the Director is waiting
for the submission
1017
00:44:32,133 --> 00:44:34,066
of the report, so it's hard
to put a deadline
1018
00:44:34,066 --> 00:44:35,232
on something that they
haven't gotten yet.
1019
00:44:35,233 --> 00:44:36,367
The Press: And Congress
has said
1020
00:44:36,367 --> 00:44:37,934
that the White House has some of
the documents
1021
00:44:37,934 --> 00:44:39,400
that it's been asking for.
1022
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,600
Will the White House give
those over to Congress?
1023
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,834
Mr. Carney: Again, I don't
have -- I'm not aware
1024
00:44:44,834 --> 00:44:46,433
of that, but I'll
look into it.
1025
00:44:46,433 --> 00:44:49,166
The Press: Jay, what
should Putin's takeaway
1026
00:44:49,166 --> 00:44:50,700
be from the President's
meeting tomorrow
1027
00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:53,734
with the Ukrainian interim
Prime Minister?
1028
00:44:53,734 --> 00:44:56,500
Mr. Carney: That we
strongly support Ukraine,
1029
00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:58,800
the Ukrainian people, and
the legitimacy
1030
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,700
of the new Ukrainian government.
1031
00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:03,500
The Press: Is the U.S. paying
1032
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:04,734
for this
guy to come here?
1033
00:45:04,734 --> 00:45:06,433
Is he coming on an
Air Force plane?
1034
00:45:06,433 --> 00:45:08,300
Who is paying for this?
1035
00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:11,233
Mr. Carney: He's the Prime
Minister of Ukraine.
1036
00:45:11,233 --> 00:45:13,767
I would refer you to the
government of Ukraine.
1037
00:45:13,767 --> 00:45:15,966
I'm not aware of anything
besides the fact
1038
00:45:15,967 --> 00:45:17,200
that he's coming here to meet
with the President.
1039
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:17,767
The Press: So, theirs?
1040
00:45:17,767 --> 00:45:18,399
Mr. Carney: I don't know.
1041
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,734
The Press: He's coming
under their auspices?
1042
00:45:19,734 --> 00:45:21,467
Mr. Carney: I haven't been
asked that question
1043
00:45:21,467 --> 00:45:22,367
or even thought about it.
1044
00:45:22,367 --> 00:45:24,133
I would refer you to the
government of Ukraine.
1045
00:45:24,133 --> 00:45:26,165
The Press: Well, you would
know if he were coming
1046
00:45:26,166 --> 00:45:29,133
on a United States Air
Force or State --
1047
00:45:29,133 --> 00:45:29,700
Mr. Carney: I'll
take the question.
1048
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:31,332
I haven't been
asked that question.
1049
00:45:31,333 --> 00:45:32,266
I don't know that --
1050
00:45:32,266 --> 00:45:32,767
The Press: Will
you take it?
1051
00:45:32,767 --> 00:45:33,299
Mr. Carney: Are you saying
that --
1052
00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:34,567
are you aware that he's doing that?
1053
00:45:34,567 --> 00:45:35,600
The Press: No,
I'm just asking.
1054
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,500
Mr. Carney: I would refer
you to the government of
1055
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:38,867
Ukraine, but I'll also
take the question.
1056
00:45:38,867 --> 00:45:42,533
The Press: President Abbas
is coming next week here.
1057
00:45:42,533 --> 00:45:45,433
He is still rejecting
Israel's demand
1058
00:45:45,433 --> 00:45:47,700
for recognition as
a Jewish state.
1059
00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:51,899
What's the White
House reaction?
1060
00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:54,834
Mr. Carney: We recognize
that we are approaching
1061
00:45:54,834 --> 00:45:56,567
a point where the parties
will have to make
1062
00:45:56,567 --> 00:45:59,500
decisions about how to
forward, and this means
1063
00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:01,133
grappling with incredibly
difficult
1064
00:46:01,133 --> 00:46:04,899
and complex issues that have
divided them for too long.
1065
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:06,934
Prime Minister Netanyahu
and President Abbas have
1066
00:46:06,934 --> 00:46:09,667
already made courageous,
difficult decisions, and
1067
00:46:09,667 --> 00:46:11,933
that is a testament to
their determination
1068
00:46:11,934 --> 00:46:14,500
to try to resolve this issue.
1069
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:16,834
It is our hope that
the Prime Minister and
1070
00:46:16,834 --> 00:46:19,033
President Abbas can
reach past any remaining
1071
00:46:19,033 --> 00:46:21,400
differences and arrive at
a framework that moves
1072
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,000
the process forward
towards peace.
1073
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,266
The United States will
continue to encourage both
1074
00:46:26,266 --> 00:46:28,400
parties in that effort.
1075
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,300
Specifically to your
question, we have been
1076
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:32,400
clear that the United
States believes a lasting
1077
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,667
peace will involve two
states -- Israel as a
1078
00:46:35,667 --> 00:46:38,433
Jewish and democratic
state, and the state of
1079
00:46:38,433 --> 00:46:39,834
Palestine.
1080
00:46:39,834 --> 00:46:41,700
We have also been clear
that we're not discussing
1081
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:43,366
the details of
the negotiations.
1082
00:46:43,367 --> 00:46:45,800
These are issues that
ultimately the parties
1083
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,667
have to decide, but
suffice it to say that
1084
00:46:48,667 --> 00:46:51,600
we firmly believe that
Israeli and Palestinian
1085
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,100
needs can be reconciled to
produce
1086
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:55,866
a just and lasting peace.
1087
00:46:56,333 --> 00:46:57,767
The Press: I
have a follow-up.
1088
00:46:58,066 --> 00:47:00,265
The council of the Arab
League confirms
1089
00:47:00,266 --> 00:47:04,734
also its support to President
Abbas's judgment.
1090
00:47:04,734 --> 00:47:06,433
Is it a problem for
the credibility
1091
00:47:06,433 --> 00:47:08,266
of the President in
the Arab world?
1092
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,700
Mr. Carney: I can simply
repeat what I just said,
1093
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:12,933
which is we're not going
to get into
1094
00:47:12,934 --> 00:47:14,533
the details of the negotiations.
1095
00:47:14,533 --> 00:47:18,933
We've made our view very
clear that a lasting peace
1096
00:47:18,934 --> 00:47:21,900
will involve two states --
a state of Israel
1097
00:47:21,900 --> 00:47:24,333
that is Jewish and Democratic,
and a state of Palestine.
1098
00:47:24,333 --> 00:47:28,900
In terms of the very
complex and difficult
1099
00:47:28,900 --> 00:47:30,767
issues that the two sides
have to negotiate,
1100
00:47:30,767 --> 00:47:32,000
we're not going to get into
the process
1101
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,200
of those negotiations.
1102
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,433
Politico -- last one.
1103
00:47:37,433 --> 00:47:41,500
The Press: So Senator
Feinstein also said that
1104
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:44,200
when they were in the
midst of, I guess,
1105
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,033
kind of investigating the
situation, they were told
1106
00:47:47,033 --> 00:47:50,533
that -- that her committee
was told by the CIA that
1107
00:47:50,533 --> 00:47:54,033
the document removal was
ordered by the White House,
1108
00:47:54,033 --> 00:47:56,000
and that the White
House responded
1109
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,600
by denying that there was
ever such an order.
1110
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,133
And I know you're
obviously not going
1111
00:48:00,133 --> 00:48:02,734
to comment, as you said
throughout the briefing,
1112
00:48:02,734 --> 00:48:03,700
on ongoing investigations.
1113
00:48:03,700 --> 00:48:08,033
But is it at all
concerning that a
1114
00:48:08,033 --> 00:48:10,200
government agency would
just try to pawn off what
1115
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,200
seems like potentially
illegal and perhaps
1116
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,533
unconstitutional action as
something
1117
00:48:15,533 --> 00:48:17,700
that the White House ordered them to do?
1118
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:19,767
Mr. Carney: I could
diagram that sentence
1119
00:48:19,767 --> 00:48:22,466
and all the ways that it's
filled with hypotheticals
1120
00:48:22,467 --> 00:48:26,734
and subjects that are
under review, but I won't.
1121
00:48:26,734 --> 00:48:28,366
I will simply say that
I can't comment
1122
00:48:28,367 --> 00:48:30,100
on allegations that
are under review.
1123
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:31,066
The Press: But it's not
a hypothetical that --
1124
00:48:31,066 --> 00:48:32,667
Feinstein said that she --
1125
00:48:32,667 --> 00:48:33,400
Mr. Carney: Right.
1126
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,166
And I said that we take
her --
1127
00:48:34,166 --> 00:48:37,000
everything she says and her
concerns very seriously.
1128
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,100
The Press: What I'm saying
is she said that when
1129
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:40,232
she talked to the CIA they
said the White House
1130
00:48:40,233 --> 00:48:41,600
ordered them to take
these documents
1131
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,667
off their server, and then when
she talked
1132
00:48:43,667 --> 00:48:45,033
to the White House they denied that.
1133
00:48:45,033 --> 00:48:46,400
So that's not a
hypothetical situation;
1134
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,166
that's what she said.
1135
00:48:47,367 --> 00:48:47,967
Mr. Carney: Well, I
don't have a specific
1136
00:48:47,967 --> 00:48:50,266
conversation between the
Chairman and the White House
1137
00:48:50,266 --> 00:48:53,166
to confirm
or relay to you.
1138
00:48:53,166 --> 00:48:55,700
The other issues that
you're talking about are
1139
00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:58,734
allegations that are
subject of a review.
1140
00:48:58,734 --> 00:49:02,232
So I can't -- it would be
inappropriate
1141
00:49:02,233 --> 00:49:03,133
for me to talk about it.
1142
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:04,934
The Press: Did Senator
Feinstein give this White House
1143
00:49:04,934 --> 00:49:06,867
any indication
beforehand she was going
1144
00:49:06,867 --> 00:49:08,800
to the Senate floor today
to make these allegations?
1145
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,800
Mr. Carney: I don't
know the answer
1146
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,500
to that question.
1147
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:11,200
The Press: Can you
take the question?
1148
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,899
Mr. Carney: I can take the
question, but I don't know
1149
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:13,333
the answer to it.
1150
00:49:13,633 --> 00:49:14,265
Thanks very much.
