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Mr. Gibbs:
Let me -- let's start today with a little bit of the week ahead.

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Tomorrow, the President will
deliver the commencement address

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at the United States Military
Academy at West Point,

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in West Point, New York -- obviously laud the graduates for

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their accomplishments, their service to the country,

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discuss the wars in
Iraq and Afghanistan,

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and outline some broad principles that will be in the

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President's national security strategy released later next week.

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On Sunday, the President has
no public events scheduled.

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On Monday, the President will
visit with Prime Minister Hariri

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of Lebanon at the White House.

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This will be the Prime
Minister's first official visit

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to Washington during
his premiership.

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And the President looks forward
to consulting with the Prime

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Minister on a broad range of
mutual goals in support of

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Lebanon's sovereignty and
independence, regional peace,

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and security.

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Also on Monday, the President
will host a reception to

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celebrate Asian American and
Pacific Islander Heritage Month.

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On Tuesday, as part of
National Small Business Week,

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the President will host
award-winning small business

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owners from around the country
for an event at the White House,

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where he will discuss the
important role that small

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businesses play in our economy.

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Also on Tuesday, President
Obama will welcome President

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Napolitano of Italy
to the White House.

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The United States and
Italy, a leading NATO ally,

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have strong bilateral relations.

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The President appreciates
Italy's robust contributions to

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peace efforts around the world,
and looks forward to continuing

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his consultations with the
President following up on their

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July 8 meeting from
last year in Rome.

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Later on Tuesday, the President
will travel to San Francisco,

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California, to headline events
on behalf of Senator Barbara

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Boxer and the Democratic
Senatorial Campaign Committee.

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On Wednesday, the President will
visit the Solyndra Incorporated

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solar facility in
Fremont, California,

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where he will tour their 300,000
square foot high-tech facilities

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and make remarks to workers
on jobs and the economy.

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Following his remarks, the
President will return to

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Washington, D.C.

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On Thursday, President
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this is hard for an N.C.
State graduate to say --

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welcome the NCAA men's basketball champion Duke Blue

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Devils to the White House -- Reggie will be in rare form --

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(laughter)

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-- to honor their
2009 and 2010 season.

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The President and First Lady
will also host a first-ever

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White House reception in honor
of Jewish American Heritage

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Month, and we will have more
details on Friday through the

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weekend later on.

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Ms. Loven.

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The Press:
Yes, a couple things.

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The Lebanon and Italy leader
events remind me if we could ask

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you to have pool sprays
with questions regularly?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, I honestly don't have -- I don't know what the coverage is,

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so I'll check on that.

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The Press:
I understand -- I understand you're not telling me about

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those specifically, but it's more of a broad question that

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we'd like to have pool sprays, including questions for most of

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these events, which you
do not usually have.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, I'll check on
what the coverage is.

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To be honest with you, some
of that is going to be very

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schedule-dependent.

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The Press:
I'm asking for it not to
be schedule-dependent,

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but to become more of a
tradition like it used to be at

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the White House.

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, I understand.

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You and I should go see
the scheduler, that's --

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The Press:
But you're still meeting.

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What -- I mean, do
you have to like --

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The Press:
It's an extra five minutes.

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It's not really schedule issues.

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The Press:
We're talking five minutes.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I'm happy to talk
about this offline.

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There are -- I've yet to be in one of these that lasts five

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minutes, but I --

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The Press:
And me.

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't think I've been
in one of those either.

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But I appreciate it.

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The Press:
So on BP, the President referred to it today as a disaster,

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a disaster in the Gulf.

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And I'm wondering if -- well, I guess if you could explain why

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the federal government isn't treating it like it would treat

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a normal disaster, where you should have come in and take charge.

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I know you have the expertise
at BP's level and the other

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companies, but why isn't the
federal government sort of

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taking over this operation?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think we've gone
through this question.

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We went through this
question yesterday.

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The Oil Pollution Act of 1990,
for reasons that were obvious in

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1990, put the liability and the
responsibility for recovery and

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cleanup with the company rather
than with the taxpayers.

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That's why --

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The Press:
No, I'm not asking a
financial question.

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I'm asking a
management question.

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, no, no -- no, no, but
the management question is a

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financial question.

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Understand --

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The Press:
How?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Because they're responsible for the cleanup and they have to

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pay for it.

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They're not two
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So it is --

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The Press:
There's no legal way to sort
of separate that out and say,

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we send the federal
disaster experts --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Again, the Oil Pollution
Act -- let's be clear --

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I've tried to explain
this many times.

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They are responsible for, and we
are overseeing that response.

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That includes -- as I
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there are many different departments and agencies that

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are involved here.

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The Department of Interior and
what used to be the Minerals

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Management Service is in charge
of regulation and drilling issues.

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NOAA deals with a series of
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detection of oil
inside the water.

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The Department of Homeland
Security is where the Coast

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Guard is housed.

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The Coast Guard obviously was
on the scene right after the

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original explosion,
and Thad Allen,

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the head of the Coast Guard,
is the National Incident Coordinator.

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The Environmental Protection
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quality testing.

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And once oil hits land, they
have purview over that.

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The Press:
I just want to be clear that I understand what you're saying,

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that you're legally not allowed
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control of the whole situation.

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, no, again,
we're -- Jennifer,

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they are responsible for and
we are overseeing the recovery response.

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I will add that SBA is also in
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for fishermen because NOAA has
closed 19% of the Gulf for fishing.

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And SBA is there to provide
low-interest loans for people

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that have had economic damages
as a result of that disaster.

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But understand,
Jennifer, as I've --

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I think I've also said
on a number of occasions,

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the technical expertise to clean
up and deal with the equipment

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that is 5,000 feet below
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that's equipment that BP has;
that's the equipment that other

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oil companies have.

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That is not based on equipment
that the federal government has

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in storage.

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The Press:
I understand, I'll let this go because I'm using up my time.

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That's not really the
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is whether you're
physically doing the work.

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I'm asking why you don't take
control of the whole operation.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Again, maybe I'm
just not being --

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over the course of several weeks
have not been clear on this.

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It is their responsibility.

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They have the legal
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expertise to plug the hole.

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Obviously Secretary
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Secretary Napolitano,
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have been involved in efforts
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both government and
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in conjunction with
British Petroleum,

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which has been working in
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corporations and
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So I guess -- I'm happy to try to sift through the question.

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I just -- they are responsible and we are overseeing to ensure

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that what they're doing
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The Press:
But if they're not
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does the government just stand
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for the best?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Chip, there's nothing that
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government has stood there
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I mean, the premise of your
question doesn't match any

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single -- hold on,
let me finish this.

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The Press:
You're confident they're
getting the job done?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Hold on, let me finish this.

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That doesn't match any single
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undertaken since the call came
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So, you know, the premise of
your question doesn't fit any of

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the actions that are currently
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federal government in
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The Press:
But Robert, there's a whole problem here with BP in that

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every piece of information
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every piece of information
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has turned out not to be true
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oil that's spilling, how many
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and every single -- so you guys are having to rely on them --

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and I understand you're
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Mr. Gibbs:
It's not -- we are --

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The Press:
The government has to rely
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expertise, I understand that,
but do they have the credibility any more?

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I mean, why not just say, you
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we're running this thing; you
guys aren't running this thing

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-- we're running it.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Again, Chuck, we are overseeing the response -- okay?

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I don't know what you think -- we are working each and every day.

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That's why Secretary Chu --
the Department of Energy --

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it sounds technical -- the Department of Energy doesn't

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have purview over
oil, oil drilling.

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That's not in their
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But Secretary Chu has been down
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host of ideas, including
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look at a disaster that's 5,000
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We have taken every step.

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We have pushed relentlessly for
BP to do what is necessary to

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contain what is leaking, to deal
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the economic impacts of what,
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is unquestionably a disaster.

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One of the questions you
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this is not something -- there's not a -- you may have been --

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be confused about the notion of
a disaster declaration that --

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The Press:
But I'm wondering if there's something analogous to that,

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where you could just -- like
an AIG or a disaster where --

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Mr. Gibbs:
There's -- the Oil
Pollution Act is where --

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the Oil Pollution Act of 1990 is
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and who pays for a spill.

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The Press:
But then when I asked if you're legally non-able to step in and

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take actual control,
you said, no.

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So I'm just confused.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Again, I don't -- I guess I'm confused at what are you --

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what are you asking then?

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The Press:
If BP is not
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why doesn't the federal
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and get the job done?

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The Press:
So that they can --

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The Press:
Federalize it -- can
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Mr. Gibbs:
No.

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The Press:
Well, why?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, we're -- let me just
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Jake's question.

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BP is working -- and I would refer you to BP on the actual

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efforts that they're undertaking and they will undertake as the

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course of this weekend -- different ideas on how to stop

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the leak both out of the pipe, which they've done through

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the insertion tube, as well as what's going on in the riser.

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I would say relating to some
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we've asked them to provide more
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quality, and we asked them 10
days ago and reiterated in a

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letter yesterday to provide
video footage of what's

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happening 5,000 feet
underneath the sea --

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The Press:
Why didn't you order them to
do that rather than ask them?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Because it's -- you can't do that from a private company.

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We -- the information
-- first of all, the --

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The Press:
You had the authority
to tell AIG what to do.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Pardon?

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The Press:
You took over AIG.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, we -- the company is largely in receivership.

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That's -- there's a
difference between --

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The Press:
Well, I know, but I mean, isn't there a way to declare some sort

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of emergency --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I hate to -- let me
just get through --

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let me get through
Chip's question.

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Chip, that's proprietary
video that was in the Joint

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Information Center and
was working through --

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the command had the video in
order to see for the response

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efforts that we were doing on
-- in conjunction with them,

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that video is now public.

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The Press:
Robert, can I ask --

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The Press:
It took 10 days.

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The Press:
Can I ask a question?

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Thank you.

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I'd like to ask
about Dennis Blair.

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Will James Clapper be replacing
him either temporarily or permanently?

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And can you talk more about
the process during which the

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President lost
confidence in Mr. Blair?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, let me discuss -- first of all, the Director will resign,

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as he said, effective
next Friday.

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The Deputy Director at DNI will
become the Acting Director.

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The President has talked to
a number of well qualified

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candidates and will make an
announcement on who the next

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permanent DNI will be soon.

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The Press:
Just soon?

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That's as much of a
timeframe as you're going --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I'm not going to get
into names or timelines.

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Look, my guess is there is
probably no harder job in

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Washington, besides
being President,

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than being Director of
National Intelligence.

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The coordination across many
different intelligence agencies

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is -- and given the fact
that this job was simply --

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was just created only a few
years ago means that Director

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Blair had to bring some clarity
to the challenges that the DNI has.

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He has done that.

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The President is thankful for
his continued service to the country.

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The act that set
this up, again --

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what I mean by that is the act
that set this up put off some of

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the more difficult questions
legislatively for the DNI to

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have to go through.

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Admiral Blair did
that in, again,

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working through questions
like budget authority,

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working through questions like
chief of station representation.

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So I think there are a
number of things, obviously,

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that Admiral Blair did.

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There's no doubt that we
continue to have as a result --

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and we saw this, that the
President identified on the

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attempted Christmas
Day bombing --

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that there's still coordination
issues that we have to work through.

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The President simply believed
that it was time to transition

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to a different Director
of National Intelligence,

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and we'll have an announcement
on a permanent replacement soon.

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The Press:
So you can't talk more about what led to the decision.

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Are there any --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, again, I think -- I think I outlined basically where the

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President's thinking is on that.

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The Press:
The administration won a court victory today about Bagram,

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basically giving it -- affirming that the Obama administration

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can pick up anywhere in the world except for the United

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States a non-citizen of the United States and hold them

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beyond the process of the court.

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And I'm wondering how that
comports at all with the

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language that President Obama
used on the campaign trail when

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he was talking about --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Jake, I know Counsel was working on a response to some of these

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points, and I'll get that as
soon as I get out of here.

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The Press:
Yesterday you were asked about comments that John Brennan made

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about trying to build up the
more moderate elements of Hezbollah.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I've asked John for that,
but I haven't gotten anything

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back from him.

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The Press:
Do you have -- does the President have any concerns at

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all about President Calderรณn criticizing American laws at

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Congress or from the
lawn of the White House?

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Some Republicans
have objected --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, I think Ann asked
me that yesterday and --

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look, I know that President
Calderรณn has strong feelings

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about -- particularly
about the Arizona law,

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on the belief that we
should have strong,

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comprehensive
immigration reform.

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The President shares his
concern on both those aspects.

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The Press:
So it's not
inappropriate at all?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I would point you to the Mexicans to see if they think

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it's inappropriate.

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I think -- again, I simply
think the President has similar

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concerns with those laws.

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The Press:
Thank you, Robert.

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On BP, there is an official
who said -- from BP --

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who says that he expects that
the leak would be plugged some

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time next week, as
early as next week.

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How much confidence does the
White House have in that

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timeline, that they could
actually get this --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, again, they're
going to undergo --

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and they can explain the
technical nature of this better

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-- the process of trying to
clog this leak with heavy mud,

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injecting that into the system
I think beginning sometime this weekend.

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I would point you to them in
terms of the degree to which

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they think that's
going to be successful.

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We continue to work on with them
ideas for how to both plug and

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contain what is leaking, even as
BP begins to drill a longer-term

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solution through a relief well.

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The Press:
But obviously
they're telling you,

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this is what we think will work.

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What is the confidence
level from the White House?

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Do you think they're going to be
able to stop this by next week?

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Mr. Gibbs:
We're certainly hopeful, yes.

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The Press:
And then back to
Jennifer's question --

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I mean, if they can't, does
there come a point when the

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White House has to say, listen,
we need to take charge of this

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-- not just from an
oversight point of view;

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we're going to step in and we're
going to bring in whatever --

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Mr. Gibbs:
The National Incident Coordinator in Thad Allen,

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agencies throughout
the government,

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have been working on the ground
since right after this explosion

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in the Gulf to do all that
we can to plug this leak;

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to contain what was leaking; to
deal with what happens in the

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event, and as we have seen,
that that oil gets to land;

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we now know some of that oil
has begun to get into the loop

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current, and how do we
deal with that; sampling --

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water quality sampling and how
we deal with both surface and

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subsea dispersants.

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So we have -- we've been there every day of this crisis,

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and we will stay there
until this hole is plugged,

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until we deal with what is
either in the water or on the

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surface, and the impacts of
that both environmentally and

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economically, which will
probably take quite some time to sift through.

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The Press:
Robert, a follow --

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The Press:
Hang on a second, hang on --
but you will still just be

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essentially assisting in any way possible as many times as they

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want to keep trying
something that doesn't work?

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So you're not
going to walk in --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, Dan, we're focused on --

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The Press:
-- if that doesn't work,
well, we'll wait and see,

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and they'll try something else.

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, no, Dan, this notion that the government is simply waiting

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and seeing -- again, Dan, if you've got an idea of how to

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plug this hole, I'm happy
to put you in charge of --

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with John Holdren here,
with Secretary Chu,

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or somebody at the Joint
Information Command.

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Everything --

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The Press:
-- that the White House has, that this administration has --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Everything that can be
done is being done.

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That's why we have scientists
here and throughout the

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administration that are working
on trying to make that happen.

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The Press:
Robert, the questions
about federalizing --

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The Press:
I have another question, actually, on something else.

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After the so-called
"underwear bombing,"

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the President talked
about the failures,

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and I think you characterized
it as coordination issues.

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But he also talked about pushing
for solutions to fix the problem.

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What is the sense here in the
White House about intelligence

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sharing and the analysis
of intelligence?

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How does the White House feel
that the various agencies are

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sharing information
or analyzing it?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I would say that the President took responsibility

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for that lack of coordination
and information sharing on

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Christmas Day.

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The Press:
Since then, has it
gotten any better?

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Mr. Gibbs:
The improvements that were
-- the problems that were

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identified and the improvements that John Brennan and others

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have begun to put into the system have improved it.

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We will -- Dan, the President has asked every member of the

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intelligence community and
the national security team to

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evaluate our processes every day to see if there's anything that

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can possibly be done better.

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That's what the intelligence
community and the national

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security teams do
each and every day.

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We strive to get it
as good as it can be.

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The Press:
Can I just follow --

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The Press:
I'd love to get at least initially a yes or no answer to

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this question.

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Is the President satisfied
with BP's response?

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Mr. Gibbs:
The President is not satisfied that we've plugged a hole in the

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floor of the ocean that's
leaking a barrel --

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thousands of barrels of oil a
day and polluting the Gulf of Mexico.

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The Press:
Is the President
satisfied with BP?

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Mr. Gibbs:
We are continuing to push BP to do everything that they can.

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The Press:
So, no "yes" or "no" on whether you're satisfied with BP.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I thought I gave you a
fairly fulsome answer.

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The Press:
Does he have full
confidence in BP?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Again, we are asking BP to do
-- to take the steps that we

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believe are necessary.

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Chuck.

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The Press:
I have another question.

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You sent out that Tweet about -- it was 10 days between the time

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you first asked for the live video and when you got the video.

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Mr. Gibbs:
May 11th.

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The Press:
And on the other hand, which sounds like you're asking

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without any kind of
power behind it at all,

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and on the other hand you say
you've got your boot on their throat.

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That sounds like they're wearing
the boot if they can just go

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along for 10 days.

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I mean, seriously, Robert,
there's this growing perception

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that the United States, that the
government is somewhat powerless

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to make BP do what it wants them
to do if it can't even get them

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to put a live feed of
video up for 10 days.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Chip, we have pushed them
to make things more public.

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There are laws that govern the
proprietary information of companies.

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We can't change each and every
one of those laws, Chip.

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We will work every day to ensure
that BP is doing everything that

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it can do, everything that
we believe it should do.

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We asked again yesterday that
they make more transparent their

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air and water quality samples,
that they update their website

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on that on a daily basis, that
they provide live video footage

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of what is happening on the floor of the ocean 5,000 feet

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beneath it.

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And we will continue
to push any company,

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and the President and the team
here will continue to push all

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elements of the government,
to get this right.

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We are facing a disaster, the
magnitude of which we likely

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have never seen before, in terms
of a blowout in the Gulf of Mexico.

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And we're doing everything
humanly possible and

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technologically possible
to deal with that.

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The Press:
Very quickly on
financial regulation --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, I got to get
to somebody else.

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The Press:
Do you like Blanche Lincoln's --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I'm sorry, let me give
somebody else another turn.

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The Press:
Quickly, you just said about
the air and water quality,

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that they're doing the testing.

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, no --

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The Press:
Why isn't the EPA doing the --

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, no, no, no, no -- again,
EPA does air and water

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quality testing.

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NOAA does water quality testing.

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They also do testing and we're
asking them to make public their

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samples of that testing.

467
00:24:02,061 --> 00:24:03,091
The EPA --

468
00:24:03,094 --> 00:24:05,564
The Press:
So the EPA rechecks the
tests, and does their own?

469
00:24:05,561 --> 00:24:08,161
Mr. Gibbs:
And does -- they do
their own testing, yes.

470
00:24:08,161 --> 00:24:11,931
It's all up on a website if
you want to look at water --

471
00:24:11,928 --> 00:24:14,358
air and water quality samples.

472
00:24:14,361 --> 00:24:16,231
The Press:
Secretary Napolitano is still the person I guess that's

473
00:24:16,227 --> 00:24:17,627
overall in charge.

474
00:24:17,628 --> 00:24:18,658
Is there any concern --

475
00:24:18,661 --> 00:24:21,061
Mr. Gibbs:
No, the National Incident Commander has been for several

476
00:24:21,061 --> 00:24:24,291
weeks Thad Allen and,
again, as I said --

477
00:24:24,294 --> 00:24:29,164
well, let me, because -- I'm apparently not being clear.

478
00:24:29,161 --> 00:24:32,461
Thad Allen has postponed his
retirement from the Coast Guard

479
00:24:32,461 --> 00:24:35,161
to continue on as the
National Incident Commander.

480
00:24:35,161 --> 00:24:39,131
A new Commandant of the
Coast Guard will be put in.

481
00:24:39,127 --> 00:24:41,927
They'll be able to focus on
their job while Admiral Allen

482
00:24:41,928 --> 00:24:46,228
focuses on -- as the overall National Incident Commander,

483
00:24:46,227 --> 00:24:48,157
as is required by law.

484
00:24:48,161 --> 00:24:50,561
The Press:
Are you guys confident that Secretary Napolitano is not

485
00:24:50,561 --> 00:24:54,061
being taken too much away,
considering the other part of

486
00:24:54,061 --> 00:24:55,431
her job at Homeland Secretary?

487
00:24:55,428 --> 00:24:56,928
Mr. Gibbs:
Again, the Coast Guard
is part of DHS --

488
00:24:56,928 --> 00:24:58,058
The Press:
I understand.

489
00:24:58,061 --> 00:24:59,061
Mr. Gibbs:
-- so there's some equity there.

490
00:24:59,061 --> 00:25:01,691
Again, the National Incident
Commander is Thad Allen -- okay?

491
00:25:01,695 --> 00:25:05,925
Secretary Napolitano certainly
has equities in this based on

492
00:25:05,928 --> 00:25:07,728
the fact that DHS is there.

493
00:25:07,728 --> 00:25:12,728
Secretary Salazar has equities
because of DOI and MMS.

494
00:25:12,728 --> 00:25:15,358
The Department of Commerce
is where NOAA sits --

495
00:25:15,361 --> 00:25:17,331
they have equities in this.

496
00:25:17,328 --> 00:25:20,128
The Environmental Protection
Agency has equities.

497
00:25:20,127 --> 00:25:21,297
The Press:
No, I understand, but
are you at all --

498
00:25:21,294 --> 00:25:22,894
is there any concern here that
she's being taken away --

499
00:25:22,895 --> 00:25:24,165
Mr. Gibbs:
Based on what?

500
00:25:24,161 --> 00:25:25,591
The Press:
Just how much time
she has to spend here,

501
00:25:25,594 --> 00:25:28,624
she had to testify on the Hill,
and considering the Times Square

502
00:25:28,628 --> 00:25:32,098
-- that she's being taken away from any of her duties having to do with --

503
00:25:32,094 --> 00:25:34,524
Mr. Gibbs:
I have not heard
anybody say that.

504
00:25:34,528 --> 00:25:35,828
The Press:
Another question on DNI.

505
00:25:35,828 --> 00:25:38,598
Is there any thought being
considered of getting the

506
00:25:38,594 --> 00:25:41,564
position itself restructured,
going back to Congress and

507
00:25:41,561 --> 00:25:44,061
saying, here's
what we've learned,

508
00:25:44,061 --> 00:25:46,531
maybe it ought to be
structured like this?

509
00:25:46,528 --> 00:25:50,158
Mr. Gibbs:
I have not -- I have not heard discussions today about greater

510
00:25:50,161 --> 00:25:51,791
intelligence reform
at this point.

511
00:25:51,795 --> 00:25:54,265
The Press:
You guys are still confident that this structure is the

512
00:25:54,261 --> 00:25:55,431
right structure?

513
00:25:55,428 --> 00:25:58,128
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, I think that the government continues to work

514
00:25:58,127 --> 00:26:04,897
through the challenges that the
law and the position have always

515
00:26:04,895 --> 00:26:09,025
presented to government and
in the coordination of many

516
00:26:09,027 --> 00:26:12,397
different agencies and
departments and the intelligence

517
00:26:12,394 --> 00:26:14,764
functions that they represent.

518
00:26:14,761 --> 00:26:18,231
As I said earlier, this is a -- this is an extremely difficult

519
00:26:18,227 --> 00:26:24,227
job for any person to do, and we think that Admiral Blair did a great job.

520
00:26:24,227 --> 00:26:26,857
The Press:
You have a Intelligence
Advisory Board,

521
00:26:26,861 --> 00:26:28,331
Chuck Hagel and some
others serving --

522
00:26:28,328 --> 00:26:30,898
Mr. Gibbs:
President's -- PIAB -- the President's Intelligence

523
00:26:30,895 --> 00:26:31,965
Advisory Board.

524
00:26:31,961 --> 00:26:34,361
The Press:
Are they being asked to look
at the structure of this?

525
00:26:34,361 --> 00:26:36,831
And will they make -- could they be making recommendations about

526
00:26:36,828 --> 00:26:38,558
how the DNI should
be structured?

527
00:26:38,561 --> 00:26:41,631
Mr. Gibbs:
They have been -- they have
been asked, and they did.

528
00:26:41,628 --> 00:26:42,628
The Press:
And are --

529
00:26:42,628 --> 00:26:44,258
Mr. Gibbs:
It's a --

530
00:26:44,261 --> 00:26:47,731
The Press:
Is there anything you have
to go to Congress with?

531
00:26:47,728 --> 00:26:49,998
Mr. Gibbs:
I read the report again last night and I don't remember that

532
00:26:49,994 --> 00:26:51,594
that was the case.

533
00:26:51,594 --> 00:26:53,524
The Press:
Robert, can I ask you a question, a follow-up question?

534
00:26:53,528 --> 00:26:54,798
Mr. Gibbs:
Let me get around here.

535
00:26:54,795 --> 00:26:55,695
Yes.

536
00:26:55,695 --> 00:26:56,565
The Press:
Thank you, Robert.

537
00:26:56,561 --> 00:26:57,561
Two questions.

538
00:26:57,561 --> 00:27:02,261
One, as far as this immigration
problem is concerned,

539
00:27:02,261 --> 00:27:04,961
how seriously you think
President thinking this is a --

540
00:27:04,961 --> 00:27:07,791
really time has come
to do something?

541
00:27:07,795 --> 00:27:11,625
This is a serious problem and
also as far as supply and demand.

542
00:27:11,628 --> 00:27:12,928
Mr. Gibbs:
As far as?

543
00:27:12,928 --> 00:27:14,398
The Press:
Supply and demand.

544
00:27:14,394 --> 00:27:17,394
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, Goyal, I think you've heard the President on a number

545
00:27:17,394 --> 00:27:19,864
of occasions -- certainly this week with President Calderรณn

546
00:27:19,861 --> 00:27:24,461
here -- reiterate his commitment to comprehensive immigration

547
00:27:24,461 --> 00:27:28,131
reform, understanding that this
is not something that he can

548
00:27:28,127 --> 00:27:30,597
implement alone, this is
not something that can be

549
00:27:30,594 --> 00:27:34,024
implemented by simply one
party, and that those that have

550
00:27:34,027 --> 00:27:37,627
traditionally supported
immigration reform on both sides

551
00:27:37,628 --> 00:27:40,098
are going to have
to do that again.

552
00:27:40,094 --> 00:27:43,264
We're not going to be able to
create a solution without the

553
00:27:43,261 --> 00:27:48,061
bipartisan help of members of
the House and the Senate that

554
00:27:48,061 --> 00:27:49,691
have worked on this before.

555
00:27:49,695 --> 00:27:50,925
The Press:
Robert, can I just
follow-up on that?

556
00:27:50,928 --> 00:27:51,998
The Press:
And second --

557
00:27:51,994 --> 00:27:52,924
Mr. Gibbs:
Let me come around.

558
00:27:52,928 --> 00:27:55,698
The Press:
And second, as far as freedom
of press is concerned,

559
00:27:55,695 --> 00:27:59,025
more than half of the countries
are not free as far as freedom

560
00:27:59,027 --> 00:28:00,297
of press is concerned.

561
00:28:00,294 --> 00:28:03,094
I know the President signed
the Freedom of the Press Act,

562
00:28:03,094 --> 00:28:06,624
but do you think President is
thinking of signing a Freedom of

563
00:28:06,628 --> 00:28:09,398
Press Act week to celebrate?

564
00:28:09,394 --> 00:28:12,564
Because press is really a bridge
between governments and the

565
00:28:12,561 --> 00:28:15,431
people, and what do you
think for a press --

566
00:28:15,428 --> 00:28:18,528
Mr. Gibbs:
Look, Goyal, I would simply say that I think this was a fitting

567
00:28:18,528 --> 00:28:25,258
week to sign a bill that adds
freedom of the press to the

568
00:28:25,261 --> 00:28:30,061
State Department's study of
human rights and the role that

569
00:28:30,061 --> 00:28:33,961
it plays in a free society.

570
00:28:33,961 --> 00:28:36,861
The Press:
What options does the U.S. realistically have to punish

571
00:28:36,861 --> 00:28:38,331
North Korea?

572
00:28:38,328 --> 00:28:41,528
And what response has the
U.S. gotten from China?

573
00:28:41,528 --> 00:28:44,098
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I -- there are
several -- obviously,

574
00:28:44,094 --> 00:28:47,094
you know that the
Secretary is in the region.

575
00:28:47,094 --> 00:28:50,224
I don't have anything to add
to what I said yesterday,

576
00:28:50,227 --> 00:28:52,627
but we continue to consult
with the South Koreans.

577
00:28:52,628 --> 00:28:57,898
I know they had -- they had some emergency meetings last night

578
00:28:57,895 --> 00:29:07,365
and yesterday, based on
the report that came back,

579
00:29:07,361 --> 00:29:11,191
providing responsibility for
what happened to the North Koreans.

580
00:29:11,194 --> 00:29:13,994
The Press:
And will the administration push to have the Consumer Protection

581
00:29:13,994 --> 00:29:18,564
Agency stand alone,
as Barney Frank wants?

582
00:29:18,561 --> 00:29:27,261
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, I think what -- the President met with Senator Dodd

583
00:29:27,261 --> 00:29:31,891
and Congressman
Frank today to --

584
00:29:31,895 --> 00:29:37,425
first, I think to congratulate
them for their effort.

585
00:29:37,428 --> 00:29:41,828
We have -- I think many people might have believed at the

586
00:29:41,828 --> 00:29:44,728
beginning of the year and certainly into February that

587
00:29:44,728 --> 00:29:49,028
getting financial reform done this year wasn't possible,

588
00:29:49,027 --> 00:29:53,327
and that certainly having a strong consumer protection

589
00:29:53,328 --> 00:29:57,258
portion of this --
having the Volcker rule,

590
00:29:57,261 --> 00:29:59,731
limiting the size and scope of the activities that banks can

591
00:29:59,728 --> 00:30:03,928
be involved in and regulating derivatives was not something

592
00:30:03,928 --> 00:30:08,298
that -- we'd be lucky to get one of those and were likely to get

593
00:30:08,294 --> 00:30:12,164
none of those in a final piece
of legislation that passed the Senate.

594
00:30:12,161 --> 00:30:15,361
Throughout this process, the
legislation has gotten stronger.

595
00:30:15,361 --> 00:30:22,291
In term of consumers, the bill
is very strong in the Senate.

596
00:30:22,294 --> 00:30:24,794
They're going to go through each
of these provisions together,

597
00:30:24,795 --> 00:30:28,265
the conference committee
will, in making some of those decisions.

598
00:30:28,261 --> 00:30:33,061
We think it is important that
there be less the address and

599
00:30:33,061 --> 00:30:38,661
more the independence of the
consumer agency in having its

600
00:30:38,661 --> 00:30:42,331
own budget and its
own leadership.

601
00:30:42,328 --> 00:30:46,698
As I said yesterday, that many
families in this country,

602
00:30:46,695 --> 00:30:52,125
their interaction with our
financial system is through the

603
00:30:52,127 --> 00:30:58,097
many things that this
area would regulate,

604
00:30:58,094 --> 00:31:00,924
whether that's getting
a loan for a car,

605
00:31:00,928 --> 00:31:04,558
getting a loan for a house,
getting a credit card.

606
00:31:04,561 --> 00:31:06,491
It's the very type of
protections that the American

607
00:31:06,494 --> 00:31:07,964
people need the most.

608
00:31:07,961 --> 00:31:10,191
The Press:
Can you talk about
timing and strategy?

609
00:31:10,194 --> 00:31:15,624
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, broadly on timing, I think both members and the President

610
00:31:15,628 --> 00:31:19,698
believe we can get something
done by the Fourth of July.

611
00:31:19,695 --> 00:31:20,825
Major.

612
00:31:20,828 --> 00:31:25,758
The Press:
On Dennis Blair, were you suggesting to us that he solved

613
00:31:25,761 --> 00:31:30,831
the problems that necessarily
come with that position because

614
00:31:30,828 --> 00:31:34,198
of the ambiguity of the law, or
will the next DNI still face

615
00:31:34,194 --> 00:31:36,924
those ambiguities and
statutory limitations?

616
00:31:36,928 --> 00:31:41,258
Mr. Gibbs:
I think many DNIs beyond whoever is next will deal with some of

617
00:31:41,261 --> 00:31:43,661
the vagueness and many
of the complexities.

618
00:31:43,661 --> 00:31:47,731
I don't think that -- I
don't think anybody here,

619
00:31:47,728 --> 00:31:50,398
and I certainly don't think, recalling the President's

620
00:31:50,394 --> 00:31:56,164
remarks after the attempted bombing on Christmas Day,

621
00:31:56,161 --> 00:31:58,891
that we don't have improvements that we continually have to make

622
00:31:58,895 --> 00:32:00,195
in our intelligence system.

623
00:32:00,194 --> 00:32:03,324
The Press:
Does the President believe this is a naturally unwieldy process,

624
00:32:03,328 --> 00:32:07,858
having a strong CIA director and
a DNI and an inside White House

625
00:32:07,861 --> 00:32:11,161
counterterrorism advisor, that
inevitably there will be turf

626
00:32:11,161 --> 00:32:13,831
battles, inevitably there
will be either disputes or

627
00:32:13,828 --> 00:32:15,098
disagreements about --

628
00:32:15,094 --> 00:32:16,164
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, let's just say --

629
00:32:16,161 --> 00:32:17,291
The Press:
-- who has authority or --

630
00:32:17,294 --> 00:32:18,564
Mr. Gibbs:
I think it's important
to understand --

631
00:32:18,561 --> 00:32:20,361
no, no, no, I think it's
important to understand that the

632
00:32:20,361 --> 00:32:22,931
principal intelligence advisor
for the President of the United

633
00:32:22,928 --> 00:32:25,098
States is the Director of
National Intelligence.

634
00:32:25,094 --> 00:32:26,964
The Director of National
Intelligence and their

635
00:32:26,961 --> 00:32:30,961
department produce each day the
President's daily briefing.

636
00:32:30,961 --> 00:32:34,531
The President begins each of
those days both with that

637
00:32:34,528 --> 00:32:36,598
briefing and either with
the Director of National

638
00:32:36,594 --> 00:32:38,594
Intelligence or employees
of the Director of National

639
00:32:38,594 --> 00:32:44,164
Intelligence in order to go
through the President's daily briefing.

640
00:32:44,161 --> 00:32:50,831
So there's no ambiguity as to
who the principal intelligence

641
00:32:50,828 --> 00:32:53,728
advisor to the President
of the United States is.

642
00:32:53,728 --> 00:32:56,728
The Press:
Did the President ask
Leon Panetta to consider

643
00:32:56,728 --> 00:32:58,698
becoming DNI?

644
00:32:58,695 --> 00:33:01,665
Mr. Gibbs:
I'm not going to get into personnel replacements.

645
00:33:01,661 --> 00:33:02,661
The Press:
Okay.

646
00:33:02,661 --> 00:33:04,861
Yesterday, the House Armed
Services Committee voted 59 to

647
00:33:04,861 --> 00:33:08,261
nothing to move forward the
defense authorization bill.

648
00:33:08,261 --> 00:33:12,931
It contains language that denies
all funding to build or convert

649
00:33:12,928 --> 00:33:16,458
any facility of the United
States for Guantanamo Bay detainees.

650
00:33:16,461 --> 00:33:19,861
How far does this set the
President's goal back of closing Guantanamo?

651
00:33:19,861 --> 00:33:26,791
Mr. Gibbs:
I think, if I'm not mistaken, the committee asked for a report

652
00:33:26,795 --> 00:33:36,825
on and some ideas on exactly how
a facility might be structured.

653
00:33:36,828 --> 00:33:40,198
That report and details will
be going up to Congress.

654
00:33:40,194 --> 00:33:41,324
I will say --

655
00:33:41,328 --> 00:33:42,358
The Press:
When?

656
00:33:42,361 --> 00:33:43,931
Mr. Gibbs:
I can check on a timetable.

657
00:33:43,928 --> 00:33:48,358
I will say that we have always
maintained that we need

658
00:33:48,361 --> 00:33:55,561
increased prison facility, and
I think the law prevents the

659
00:33:55,561 --> 00:33:58,331
Department of Defense from -- but not the Department of

660
00:33:58,328 --> 00:34:00,398
Justice -- from
purchasing such a facility.

661
00:34:00,394 --> 00:34:01,224
The Press:
Okay.

662
00:34:01,227 --> 00:34:04,957
And on the Gulf oil spill, I
want to ask it this way --

663
00:34:04,961 --> 00:34:07,961
is there anything that in the
process of dealing with this,

664
00:34:07,961 --> 00:34:11,491
you have found in the 1990
law that limits the federal

665
00:34:11,494 --> 00:34:14,524
government's authority in
ways you wish it did not?

666
00:34:14,528 --> 00:34:15,698
Anything incumbent?

667
00:34:15,695 --> 00:34:18,995
Mr. Gibbs:
Not that I'm aware of
except what we've asked --

668
00:34:18,994 --> 00:34:24,024
obviously, we've set up -- we've sent up structures that change

669
00:34:24,027 --> 00:34:30,597
liability in order to ensure that a disaster of this

670
00:34:30,594 --> 00:34:38,024
magnitude is not -- the
economic damages are --

671
00:34:38,027 --> 00:34:42,157
that are going to be -- that
our citizens are going to suffer

672
00:34:42,161 --> 00:34:45,931
through are adequately compensated even if they're

673
00:34:45,928 --> 00:34:51,428
beyond the $75 million liability threshold that the law currently has.

674
00:34:51,428 --> 00:34:54,158
The Press:
But the law itself has not created limitations that you

675
00:34:54,161 --> 00:34:55,361
wish did not exist?

676
00:34:55,361 --> 00:34:57,391
Mr. Gibbs:
I will look through the exact legislation that was set up and

677
00:34:57,394 --> 00:35:00,424
see if there's anything
as a part that's in there.

678
00:35:00,428 --> 00:35:01,398
Peter.

679
00:35:01,394 --> 00:35:04,294
The Press:
Robert, in talking a lot about the structure of the DNI job,

680
00:35:04,294 --> 00:35:06,324
I guess what I'm
confused about is,

681
00:35:06,328 --> 00:35:10,028
is the problem here then the DNI
job or the person who filled the

682
00:35:10,027 --> 00:35:11,457
DNI job?

683
00:35:11,461 --> 00:35:13,731
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I'll just say this,
that I think the job is

684
00:35:13,728 --> 00:35:15,558
very challenging.

685
00:35:15,561 --> 00:35:24,131
I think Director Blair took on a
number of those challenges that

686
00:35:24,127 --> 00:35:28,227
the law and the job presented.

687
00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:30,757
Those aren't always
easy to take on.

688
00:35:30,761 --> 00:35:38,031
I think Director Blair also
dramatically focused our

689
00:35:38,027 --> 00:35:44,957
government on counterterrorism
and radicalization and rightly

690
00:35:44,961 --> 00:35:51,231
increased our focus on
Afghanistan and Southeast Asia

691
00:35:51,227 --> 00:35:57,327
in pursuing terrorists that
seek to do our country harm.

692
00:35:57,328 --> 00:36:02,898
The President believes that at
this point a transition in who

693
00:36:02,895 --> 00:36:06,125
that person is, is the
best for the country.

694
00:36:06,127 --> 00:36:08,427
The Press:
Robert, you just said that
"We think Admiral Blair did

695
00:36:08,428 --> 00:36:09,798
a great job."

696
00:36:09,795 --> 00:36:11,425
Why then is it the
time for a transition?

697
00:36:11,428 --> 00:36:15,358
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, because I think we have -- some of the challenges that

698
00:36:15,361 --> 00:36:19,191
continue -- that we have
to continue to take on,

699
00:36:19,194 --> 00:36:21,564
the President simply believes
it's time to make a change.

700
00:36:21,561 --> 00:36:26,631
The Press:
Well, I mean, can you give
us any elaboration on why?

701
00:36:26,628 --> 00:36:28,758
I mean you've just gone through
all these ideas about what

702
00:36:28,761 --> 00:36:31,431
Admiral Blair did that
you think were good,

703
00:36:31,428 --> 00:36:32,828
but that it's time for a change.

704
00:36:32,828 --> 00:36:33,758
I mean --

705
00:36:33,761 --> 00:36:39,631
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, again, the President simply believes that where we

706
00:36:39,628 --> 00:36:43,628
are and what we have
to do moving forward,

707
00:36:43,628 --> 00:36:46,158
that it's time to
make a change there.

708
00:36:46,161 --> 00:36:48,231
The Press:
Do you disagree with his
theory that the President lost

709
00:36:48,227 --> 00:36:49,227
confidence in him?

710
00:36:49,227 --> 00:36:50,127
The Press:
Yeah, that was my question.

711
00:36:50,127 --> 00:36:51,897
Are you disputing all the
various people who have said,

712
00:36:51,895 --> 00:36:53,295
he's lost confidence?

713
00:36:53,294 --> 00:36:56,064
Mr. Gibbs:
Again, the President --
the President decided to

714
00:36:56,061 --> 00:36:57,161
make a change.

715
00:36:57,161 --> 00:36:58,331
I'll let that speak for itself.

716
00:36:58,328 --> 00:37:01,298
The Press:
How often did Blair -- did Director Blair actually come and

717
00:37:01,294 --> 00:37:03,924
do the Presidential daily brief?

718
00:37:03,928 --> 00:37:05,728
Mr. Gibbs:
I don't have that
number in front of me.

719
00:37:05,728 --> 00:37:06,728
The Press:
Most of the time?

720
00:37:06,728 --> 00:37:08,858
Mr. Gibbs:
I can -- I don't know
the answer to that.

721
00:37:08,861 --> 00:37:09,931
I can see if there's --

722
00:37:09,928 --> 00:37:11,628
The Press:
Sorry, Robert, can I just
come back on one other thing.

723
00:37:11,628 --> 00:37:14,398
A number of people have
said this is a sign that the

724
00:37:14,394 --> 00:37:17,524
administration's intelligence
apparatus is in disarray.

725
00:37:17,528 --> 00:37:18,898
Would you like to dispute that?

726
00:37:18,895 --> 00:37:21,125
Mr. Gibbs:
Who said that?

727
00:37:21,127 --> 00:37:22,327
The Press:
Op-ed pieces.

728
00:37:22,328 --> 00:37:24,158
I mean I haven't got
-- I don't have a list.

729
00:37:24,161 --> 00:37:25,361
Sorry.

730
00:37:25,361 --> 00:37:26,461
The Press:
Peter, do you have a list?

731
00:37:26,461 --> 00:37:27,431
The Press:
I have a list.

732
00:37:27,428 --> 00:37:28,328
(laughter)

733
00:37:28,328 --> 00:37:29,398
Mr. Gibbs:
Yeah.

734
00:37:29,394 --> 00:37:30,824
Peter -- you know he would except his iPad buddy you can

735
00:37:30,828 --> 00:37:33,398
see is conspicuously absent.

736
00:37:33,394 --> 00:37:34,764
The Press:
He's my researcher.

737
00:37:34,761 --> 00:37:36,131
The Press:
You really think that
nobody said that?

738
00:37:36,127 --> 00:37:37,957
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I -- no, I was just
asking to take on --

739
00:37:37,961 --> 00:37:40,431
rather than something broader
than maybe the proper --

740
00:37:40,428 --> 00:37:41,358
The Press:
So you don't --

741
00:37:41,361 --> 00:37:42,431
The Press:
That's very helpful.

742
00:37:42,428 --> 00:37:43,798
I can report that.

743
00:37:43,795 --> 00:37:44,665
Mr. Gibbs:
Good.

744
00:37:44,661 --> 00:37:46,491
Report that I changed the
premise of your question based

745
00:37:46,494 --> 00:37:52,194
on -- no, no, I -- there are a series of laws and structures in

746
00:37:52,194 --> 00:37:57,364
this country that provide for a very robust intelligence effort

747
00:37:57,361 --> 00:37:59,731
by the federal government.

748
00:37:59,728 --> 00:38:08,558
I don't think that in any way
we lack any sort of capacity.

749
00:38:08,561 --> 00:38:11,631
I think if you look at -- look, there's no question that we're

750
00:38:11,628 --> 00:38:17,528
facing different challenges based on, in many ways,

751
00:38:17,528 --> 00:38:20,498
some of the things that
we're doing overseas,

752
00:38:20,494 --> 00:38:22,294
without getting more specific.

753
00:38:22,294 --> 00:38:28,394
And I think if you
look at what is --

754
00:38:28,394 --> 00:38:32,994
what the intelligence community
has been able to do in tracking

755
00:38:32,994 --> 00:38:39,464
Zazi, in identifying and
tracking Headley in Chicago --

756
00:38:39,461 --> 00:38:41,961
there's a whole host of things
that the intelligence community

757
00:38:41,961 --> 00:38:45,861
does each and every day that
aren't discussed in the

758
00:38:45,861 --> 00:38:49,591
newspapers that the American
people can have great confidence in.

759
00:38:49,594 --> 00:38:52,524
The Press:
And Congressman Peter King's assertion that Blair was made a

760
00:38:52,528 --> 00:38:55,658
scapegoat for other
failures here?

761
00:38:55,661 --> 00:38:59,561
Mr. Gibbs:
I don't know what the basis for that is, given the fact that --

762
00:38:59,561 --> 00:39:03,791
I think the President spoke
pretty clearly and took direct

763
00:39:03,795 --> 00:39:10,195
responsibility for the failures
in coordination and in

764
00:39:10,194 --> 00:39:15,094
information sharing that we saw
around the Christmas Day --

765
00:39:15,094 --> 00:39:17,524
attempted Christmas Day bombing.

766
00:39:17,528 --> 00:39:22,858
I think the notion that anybody
has shirked that responsibility,

767
00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:27,031
they clearly haven't been paying
attention to what the President

768
00:39:27,027 --> 00:39:29,097
has said and quite frankly what
each member of the intelligence

769
00:39:29,094 --> 00:39:32,524
committee has had to say as
a result of what happened on

770
00:39:32,528 --> 00:39:34,358
Christmas Day.

771
00:39:34,361 --> 00:39:35,361
Yes, ma'am.

772
00:39:35,361 --> 00:39:37,061
The Press:
It's a follow-up on
the Calderรณn question.

773
00:39:37,061 --> 00:39:41,061
It's been nearly a month
since S.B. 1070 was passed,

774
00:39:41,061 --> 00:39:45,291
and I'm just wondering how much longer does the DOJ need from

775
00:39:45,294 --> 00:39:48,424
President Obama's orders to decide on whether or not they'll

776
00:39:48,428 --> 00:39:52,158
file a lawsuit based on the constitutionality of the law?

777
00:39:52,161 --> 00:39:55,791
How much longer will -- President Calderรณn will need to

778
00:39:55,795 --> 00:39:58,925
hear from President
Obama about the lawsuit?

779
00:39:58,928 --> 00:40:01,428
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I think that question
is better directed to the

780
00:40:01,428 --> 00:40:05,898
Department of Justice, which
is working on that report.

781
00:40:05,895 --> 00:40:09,825
The Press:
Who runs the Joint Command Center down in the Gulf?

782
00:40:09,828 --> 00:40:11,428
Is that a federal government --

783
00:40:11,428 --> 00:40:17,598
Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, the Joint Information Center and the Command Center --

784
00:40:17,594 --> 00:40:18,864
I mean obviously it's --

785
00:40:18,861 --> 00:40:19,961
The Press:
BP doesn't run it?

786
00:40:19,961 --> 00:40:21,231
Mr. Gibbs:
No.

787
00:40:21,227 --> 00:40:25,497
They have a center I
believe in Houston.

788
00:40:25,494 --> 00:40:31,794
Hold on, I got to -- I get beat up because I only take the first two rows.

789
00:40:31,795 --> 00:40:34,595
The Press:
The House Armed Services Committee last night voted to

790
00:40:34,594 --> 00:40:37,394
ban funding for modification
and construction of detention

791
00:40:37,394 --> 00:40:38,864
centers on U.S. soil.

792
00:40:38,861 --> 00:40:40,361
Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, I think I did that
a little while ago.

793
00:40:40,361 --> 00:40:41,231
The Press:
Did you?

794
00:40:41,227 --> 00:40:42,157
Mr. Gibbs:
Yes.

795
00:40:42,161 --> 00:40:43,131
The Press:
While I was reading
about it here?

796
00:40:43,127 --> 00:40:44,197
Mr. Gibbs:
Yes.

797
00:40:44,194 --> 00:40:45,194
(laughter)

798
00:40:45,194 --> 00:40:46,524
The Press:
Well, could you -- but
could you just say is --

799
00:40:46,528 --> 00:40:50,898
should the state be proceeding
with its plans still to do the purchase?

800
00:40:50,895 --> 00:40:52,765
Mr. Gibbs:
Again, I think when
the transcript is out,

801
00:40:52,761 --> 00:40:54,331
I think Major asked that
question and I answered it.

802
00:40:54,328 --> 00:40:55,258
Margaret.

803
00:40:55,261 --> 00:40:56,391
The Press:
Thank you.

804
00:40:56,394 --> 00:41:00,494
On the BP oil spill, is the
federal government exerting as

805
00:41:00,494 --> 00:41:03,224
much control as
legally possible --

806
00:41:03,227 --> 00:41:04,157
Mr. Gibbs:
Yes.

807
00:41:04,161 --> 00:41:05,031
The Press:
-- in your oversight?

808
00:41:05,027 --> 00:41:06,127
Mr. Gibbs:
Yes.

809
00:41:06,127 --> 00:41:07,427
The Press:
Or -- I'll just finish my question for the sake of

810
00:41:07,428 --> 00:41:08,758
finishing it --

811
00:41:08,761 --> 00:41:10,661
Mr. Gibbs:
Okay, I can say yes
to the first part.

812
00:41:10,661 --> 00:41:14,131
The Press:
Are there any powers that the federal government has held off

813
00:41:14,127 --> 00:41:15,797
on using either
because you feel --

814
00:41:15,795 --> 00:41:17,225
Mr. Gibbs:
None that I'm aware of.

815
00:41:17,227 --> 00:41:18,997
The Press:
-- that it would be disruptive or send the wrong message about

816
00:41:18,994 --> 00:41:20,764
government interference
in private business?

817
00:41:20,761 --> 00:41:22,131
Mr. Gibbs:
Meaning what?

818
00:41:22,127 --> 00:41:24,797
The Press:
Is there any sort of level of control or oversight that you

819
00:41:24,795 --> 00:41:25,965
could assume that --

820
00:41:25,961 --> 00:41:26,961
Mr. Gibbs:
No.

821
00:41:26,961 --> 00:41:27,961
The Press:
-- you have not yet assumed?

822
00:41:27,961 --> 00:41:28,991
Mr. Gibbs:
No.

823
00:41:28,994 --> 00:41:29,994
I mean, again, the premise of
your question is somehow the

824
00:41:29,994 --> 00:41:31,824
federal government is not doing
everything that is humanly

825
00:41:31,828 --> 00:41:33,328
possible to stop the leak.

826
00:41:33,328 --> 00:41:34,998
The Press:
It's not -- okay, but I'm not trying to premise that in a

827
00:41:34,994 --> 00:41:36,064
political fashion.

828
00:41:36,061 --> 00:41:37,161
I'm asking a
technical question --

829
00:41:37,161 --> 00:41:38,961
Mr. Gibbs:
No, no, I'm not reading
it in a political fashion.

830
00:41:38,961 --> 00:41:41,831
I'm -- again, I'm not trying
to be flip here, but that's --

831
00:41:41,828 --> 00:41:43,998
inherent in your question
was that we're --

832
00:41:43,994 --> 00:41:47,494
that somehow -- you're asking whether or not we think we're

833
00:41:47,494 --> 00:41:50,524
doing -- there's something we could be doing that we're not --

834
00:41:50,528 --> 00:41:52,128
The Press:
That you're not doing for
a good reason, I mean,

835
00:41:52,127 --> 00:41:53,057
is what I'm asking.

836
00:41:53,061 --> 00:41:55,991
The government doesn't come at
something with everything in the

837
00:41:55,994 --> 00:41:58,464
playbook all the time unless you
think it's the right thing to do.

838
00:41:58,461 --> 00:42:00,561
I'm asking because I
don't know the answer.

839
00:42:00,561 --> 00:42:03,091
Are there powers that
theoretically you have that you

840
00:42:03,094 --> 00:42:04,464
have chosen not to exercise --

841
00:42:04,461 --> 00:42:05,561
Mr. Gibbs:
Theoretical powers?

842
00:42:05,561 --> 00:42:06,791
(laughter)

843
00:42:06,795 --> 00:42:08,465
The Press:
Are there powers that you have chosen not to exercise yet

844
00:42:08,461 --> 00:42:09,891
because you think
it would be unwise,

845
00:42:09,895 --> 00:42:11,995
but that you have in your back
pocket as something additional

846
00:42:11,994 --> 00:42:13,324
you could throw out to clean up?

847
00:42:13,328 --> 00:42:14,328
Mr. Gibbs:
No.

848
00:42:14,328 --> 00:42:21,458
No, again, we're doing
everything humanly and

849
00:42:21,461 --> 00:42:23,861
technologically possible.

850
00:42:23,861 --> 00:42:25,431
Obviously we follow the law.

851
00:42:25,428 --> 00:42:28,328
I think that's inherent in
-- or at least if it's not,

852
00:42:28,328 --> 00:42:33,298
I'd like to make it overt -- obviously we're following the law.

853
00:42:33,294 --> 00:42:35,694
The Press:
Thank you, Robert.

854
00:42:35,695 --> 00:42:38,265
As you requested, I'm following
up on my question Monday about

855
00:42:38,261 --> 00:42:40,731
no-bid contracts.

856
00:42:40,728 --> 00:42:42,898
I only read the preliminary
reports then --

857
00:42:42,895 --> 00:42:46,325
Mr. Gibbs:
I have not held up my
end of the bargain.

858
00:42:46,328 --> 00:42:48,858
Come on Monday and I'll hold
up my end of the bargain.

859
00:42:48,861 --> 00:42:49,831
The Press:
Right.

860
00:42:49,828 --> 00:42:52,858
And I beg your pardon, but I
only had the partial story then,

861
00:42:52,861 --> 00:42:54,691
so just -- should I
ask you on Monday?

862
00:42:54,695 --> 00:42:55,995
Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, let's do this on Monday.

863
00:42:55,994 --> 00:42:57,164
The Press:
Thank you for the moment.

864
00:42:57,161 --> 00:43:00,331
(laughter)

865
00:43:00,328 --> 00:43:04,158
The Press:
Robert, 1965 Voting Rights Act was put in place to give blacks

866
00:43:04,161 --> 00:43:06,161
first-class citizenship.

867
00:43:06,161 --> 00:43:10,061
And does Rand Paul's comments on
the Civil Rights Act give pause

868
00:43:10,061 --> 00:43:13,991
to the wave of racial discourse
currently taking place and what

869
00:43:13,994 --> 00:43:17,994
could eventually be
challenged, a challenge to it?

870
00:43:17,994 --> 00:43:20,024
Mr. Gibbs:
Give me the second
part -- the wave of --

871
00:43:20,027 --> 00:43:23,157
The Press:
Racial discourse, conversation about race right now that's

872
00:43:23,161 --> 00:43:25,531
going on, especially
after his comments.

873
00:43:25,528 --> 00:43:28,528
I mean, ever since really this
President has come on the

874
00:43:28,528 --> 00:43:32,098
national stage with his efforts
of running for office and then

875
00:43:32,094 --> 00:43:34,324
becoming the first
black President --

876
00:43:34,328 --> 00:43:36,358
I mean, what do
you think about --

877
00:43:36,361 --> 00:43:38,961
what's being said about Rand
Paul's comments around here?

878
00:43:38,961 --> 00:43:42,831
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, as I said
yesterday, this was --

879
00:43:42,828 --> 00:43:53,228
the laws passed in
1964 and in 1965 are --

880
00:43:53,227 --> 00:43:56,957
while we continue to improve
race relations in this country,

881
00:43:56,961 --> 00:44:04,831
they are debates that have been
rightly and correctly settled

882
00:44:04,828 --> 00:44:06,228
many decades ago.

883
00:44:06,227 --> 00:44:09,727
I think the notion that somehow
in 2010 we're debating whether

884
00:44:09,728 --> 00:44:15,198
or not all of our citizens ought
to enjoy equal opportunity,

885
00:44:15,194 --> 00:44:18,764
something that I think many
believe was rightly settled in

886
00:44:18,761 --> 00:44:26,361
1964 and 1965 and 1968, has, as
I said yesterday, no place in --

887
00:44:26,361 --> 00:44:30,161
or shouldn't have any place
in our debate right now.

888
00:44:30,161 --> 00:44:35,231
I think we've -- those were very difficult times and we dealt

889
00:44:35,227 --> 00:44:39,357
with them and we settled many
of those issues in landmark

890
00:44:39,361 --> 00:44:43,491
legislation that continues to serve this country and all of

891
00:44:43,494 --> 00:44:44,764
its people well.

892
00:44:44,761 --> 00:44:47,031
The Press:
Do you think we're having this conversation because of the

893
00:44:47,027 --> 00:44:49,497
first black President, who some
in this White House have said

894
00:44:49,494 --> 00:44:52,394
race and politics will
always follow him.

895
00:44:52,394 --> 00:44:53,724
Do you think we're
hearing more --

896
00:44:53,728 --> 00:44:56,498
Mr. Gibbs:
No, I think we're having the current conversation because in

897
00:44:56,494 --> 00:45:02,694
2010 you had somebody who
seemed to -- not seemed to --

898
00:45:02,695 --> 00:45:09,595
called into question whether or
not it was appropriate for a

899
00:45:09,594 --> 00:45:14,924
private company through a lunch
counter to discriminate against

900
00:45:14,928 --> 00:45:16,428
a group of citizens
in this country.

901
00:45:16,428 --> 00:45:20,228
Again, in 1964 and in 1965
and in the preceding years,

902
00:45:20,227 --> 00:45:22,957
we've settled those issues.

903
00:45:22,961 --> 00:45:25,161
I think that's why we're having
the current conversation.

904
00:45:25,161 --> 00:45:27,431
The Press:
And back on BP really fast.

905
00:45:27,428 --> 00:45:30,828
Back on the current questions,
basically are all federal

906
00:45:30,828 --> 00:45:35,058
options on the table --
going back to that question.

907
00:45:35,061 --> 00:45:36,431
Mr. Gibbs:
Such as?

908
00:45:36,428 --> 00:45:38,858
The Press:
Meaning, are you going to
take more of an aggressive role

909
00:45:38,861 --> 00:45:40,161
in oversight?

910
00:45:40,161 --> 00:45:41,661
I mean, like yesterday on CNN --

911
00:45:41,661 --> 00:45:46,661
Mr. Gibbs:
Again, there's nothing that -- there's nothing that we think

912
00:45:46,661 --> 00:45:49,961
can and should be done
that isn't being done.

913
00:45:49,961 --> 00:45:50,961
Nothing.

914
00:45:50,961 --> 00:45:52,891
Absolutely nothing.

915
00:45:52,895 --> 00:45:55,165
The Press:
Okay, well, will there be any efforts to try to change that?

916
00:45:55,161 --> 00:45:59,831
Because, I mean, many people
have been talking about this

917
00:45:59,828 --> 00:46:02,528
comment from the EPA
Administrator yesterday on CNN.

918
00:46:02,528 --> 00:46:07,128
She was asked by I guess
Wolf that if there is --

919
00:46:07,127 --> 00:46:09,397
what's the relationship with
BP and the federal government.

920
00:46:09,394 --> 00:46:11,194
She said, "Trust but verify."

921
00:46:11,194 --> 00:46:12,794
And so many people are saying
if you've got to verify,

922
00:46:12,795 --> 00:46:13,925
there's no trust.

923
00:46:13,928 --> 00:46:16,598
So with that, again,
will you try to --

924
00:46:16,594 --> 00:46:18,264
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I think that's a monitor that follows our relationship

925
00:46:18,261 --> 00:46:21,491
with countries around the world,
not just with companies that do

926
00:46:21,494 --> 00:46:24,294
business in the Gulf.

927
00:46:24,294 --> 00:46:27,394
I'm not going to get into the
explanation of historical "trust

928
00:46:27,394 --> 00:46:33,164
but verify," but
again, we have --

929
00:46:33,161 --> 00:46:40,731
BP has the obligation and
responsibility to plug the hole

930
00:46:40,728 --> 00:46:44,698
in the floor of the ocean and
to respond to the oil that has

931
00:46:44,695 --> 00:46:49,795
leaked out --
with our oversight,

932
00:46:49,795 --> 00:46:54,165
the strong oversight and strong response that we'll continue to exercise.

933
00:46:54,161 --> 00:46:55,161
Yes, sir.

934
00:46:55,161 --> 00:46:56,361
The Press:
Robert, thank you.

935
00:46:56,361 --> 00:46:59,861
Coming back to BP, and not to be
presumptuous about some of the

936
00:46:59,861 --> 00:47:00,861
other questions.

937
00:47:00,861 --> 00:47:02,161
Mr. Gibbs:
We didn't leave.

938
00:47:02,161 --> 00:47:03,731
(laughter)

939
00:47:03,728 --> 00:47:08,058
The Press:
There's sort of a -- BP's response from the get-go.

940
00:47:08,061 --> 00:47:10,861
One of the first things they did
was they tried to buy people off

941
00:47:10,861 --> 00:47:14,131
with five grand if they wouldn't
pursue future liability.

942
00:47:14,127 --> 00:47:15,627
And there's a lot
of information --

943
00:47:15,628 --> 00:47:17,928
Mr. Gibbs:
I think the Attorney
General of Alabama and --

944
00:47:17,928 --> 00:47:26,198
as well as we communicated
through this administration that

945
00:47:26,194 --> 00:47:29,894
trying to hire people to -- trying to hire fishermen that

946
00:47:29,895 --> 00:47:32,865
couldn't fish anymore because NOAA had closed part of it,

947
00:47:32,861 --> 00:47:36,391
asking them to help and paying
them to lay boom but then

948
00:47:36,394 --> 00:47:38,524
prohibiting them
from, as fishermen,

949
00:47:38,528 --> 00:47:44,928
ever filing economic claims
was not the right thing to do.

950
00:47:44,928 --> 00:47:46,128
The Press:
I haven't gotten to
the question yet.

951
00:47:46,127 --> 00:47:47,827
I'm saying that's the
first thing they did.

952
00:47:47,828 --> 00:47:50,528
And in general, there's the
sense that they provide

953
00:47:50,528 --> 00:47:52,558
information with an eye-dropper.

954
00:47:52,561 --> 00:47:53,661
And then the video --

955
00:47:53,661 --> 00:47:56,931
Mr. Gibbs:
Which is why we've asked them
to be more transparent about air

956
00:47:56,928 --> 00:47:59,898
and water quality samples and
about a video footage of what's

957
00:47:59,895 --> 00:48:01,795
happening 5,000 feet
beneath the sea.

958
00:48:01,795 --> 00:48:06,625
The Press:
No, no, but the video on CBS
the other night of Coast Guard

959
00:48:06,628 --> 00:48:11,298
officials on that ship with what
were described as BP contractors

960
00:48:11,294 --> 00:48:14,624
threatening to arrest
journalists for merely taking

961
00:48:14,628 --> 00:48:16,958
pictures -- all of
this put together --

962
00:48:16,961 --> 00:48:19,091
Mr. Gibbs:
Are you talking
about 60 Minutes?

963
00:48:19,094 --> 00:48:21,694
The Press:
No, I'm talking about it
was on -- Chip would know --

964
00:48:21,695 --> 00:48:24,125
it was on -- and so
all of this paints --

965
00:48:24,127 --> 00:48:26,557
Mr. Gibbs:
I did not see the particular --

966
00:48:26,561 --> 00:48:31,231
The Press:
They threatened to arrest a
CBS crew for taking pictures --

967
00:48:31,227 --> 00:48:32,527
for daring to take pictures --

968
00:48:32,528 --> 00:48:35,328
The Press:
And they said that BP had
told them that they --

969
00:48:35,328 --> 00:48:36,528
The Press:
So all of this paints --

970
00:48:36,528 --> 00:48:38,358
Mr. Gibbs:
Who was threatening to arrest?

971
00:48:38,361 --> 00:48:40,531
The Press:
There were two agents
on the boat, too.

972
00:48:40,528 --> 00:48:42,058
It was a BP boat and BP had --

973
00:48:42,061 --> 00:48:44,461
The Press:
Why is the Coast Guard being
co-opted with BP officials and

974
00:48:44,461 --> 00:48:47,331
threatening the arrest of
journalists for trying to take pictures?

975
00:48:47,328 --> 00:48:49,528
Mr. Gibbs:
I'd have to look at the story.

976
00:48:49,528 --> 00:48:55,328
Other than -- I'd have to
look at what CBS reported.

977
00:48:55,328 --> 00:48:56,498
I just haven't seen that story.

978
00:48:56,494 --> 00:48:57,664
Bill.

979
00:48:57,661 --> 00:48:58,791
The Press:
Thanks, Robert.

980
00:48:58,795 --> 00:49:01,065
In the spirit of Peter Baker and
maybe more homework over the

981
00:49:01,061 --> 00:49:04,131
weekend, I wanted to go back -- I asked you about the landmines

982
00:49:04,127 --> 00:49:06,657
treaty, the
administration's position.

983
00:49:06,661 --> 00:49:08,461
Mr. Gibbs:
I will get something on that.

984
00:49:08,461 --> 00:49:10,591
The Press:
68 senators have asked
the President to sign --

985
00:49:10,594 --> 00:49:11,824
Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, right, right.

986
00:49:11,828 --> 00:49:13,228
The Press:
Monday?

987
00:49:13,227 --> 00:49:14,597
Mr. Gibbs:
Or later today.

988
00:49:14,594 --> 00:49:16,194
I don't want any homework
over the weekend.

989
00:49:16,194 --> 00:49:22,424
(laughter)

990
00:49:22,428 --> 00:49:26,098
The Press:
You guys were very prescriptive in the latter days of the

991
00:49:26,094 --> 00:49:29,294
financial regulatory
reform negotiations.

992
00:49:29,294 --> 00:49:31,794
In the Senate you weighed
in on specific amendments.

993
00:49:31,795 --> 00:49:34,995
Do you intend to play that kind
of interventionist role during

994
00:49:34,994 --> 00:49:36,294
the conference committee?

995
00:49:36,294 --> 00:49:37,964
And where do you stand
specifically on these various

996
00:49:37,961 --> 00:49:39,991
competing derivatives proposals?

997
00:49:39,994 --> 00:49:43,624
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, I don't think that that level of detail was gotten

998
00:49:43,628 --> 00:49:48,558
into today with the President
and the two chairs.

999
00:49:48,561 --> 00:49:52,331
They talked more broadly about
the strength of the bills.

1000
00:49:52,328 --> 00:49:57,828
And I'm sure that the -- I'm sure that as we go through --

1001
00:49:57,828 --> 00:50:04,328
as Congress goes through to
look at and compare provisions,

1002
00:50:04,328 --> 00:50:07,398
we will have an
opportunity to weigh in,

1003
00:50:07,394 --> 00:50:09,464
and I'm not going to get
ahead of that process.

1004
00:50:09,461 --> 00:50:11,591
The Press:
There's some individuals who say that the derivatives proposals

1005
00:50:11,594 --> 00:50:15,194
in the Senate bill would trim
20% off of bank profits.

1006
00:50:15,194 --> 00:50:17,994
Do you buy that number and do
you think that that's a genuine concern?

1007
00:50:17,994 --> 00:50:22,494
Mr. Gibbs:
I don't know what the
basis is for that number.

1008
00:50:22,494 --> 00:50:27,864
Again, we -- the proposal the President put forward in the

1009
00:50:27,861 --> 00:50:33,961
white paper last year called for pulling the type of activities

1010
00:50:33,961 --> 00:50:38,291
that we're talking about out
of the dark and into the light,

1011
00:50:38,294 --> 00:50:43,364
putting them on exchanges and
regulating those exchanges.

1012
00:50:43,361 --> 00:50:49,091
The Volcker rule, which met
initial resistance and may have

1013
00:50:49,094 --> 00:50:51,464
continued resistance
on Wall Street,

1014
00:50:51,461 --> 00:50:54,831
the President believed was
enormously important as it

1015
00:50:54,828 --> 00:50:58,498
related to the size of banks and
the scope of what activities

1016
00:50:58,494 --> 00:51:01,224
they can take part in.

1017
00:51:01,227 --> 00:51:07,097
So I think as they get through
the process of appointing who's

1018
00:51:07,094 --> 00:51:10,194
going to deal with these issues,
we'll have a chance to go

1019
00:51:10,194 --> 00:51:12,994
through and compare
those provisions.

1020
00:51:12,994 --> 00:51:14,224
The Press:
One more on Admiral Blair.

1021
00:51:14,227 --> 00:51:15,957
You said the President decided
it was time to make a change.

1022
00:51:15,961 --> 00:51:18,031
Can you give us a sense of
when he began to think that?

1023
00:51:18,027 --> 00:51:20,597
I mean, was it Christmas
Day or was it more recently?

1024
00:51:20,594 --> 00:51:22,724
Mr. Gibbs:
I'm not going to get
into the timing of it.

1025
00:51:22,728 --> 00:51:28,528
The Press:
Robert, why did he interview candidates before Director Blair

1026
00:51:28,528 --> 00:51:30,998
gave his resignation?

1027
00:51:30,994 --> 00:51:36,724
Mr. Gibbs:
To have people ready to -- if
he decided to make a change.

1028
00:51:36,728 --> 00:51:40,628
The Press:
Robert, Senator Dodd says
he's clearly sticking with AG

1029
00:51:40,628 --> 00:51:45,398
Blumenthal as the -- to run for the seat that he's vacating at

1030
00:51:45,394 --> 00:51:46,624
the end of the year.

1031
00:51:46,628 --> 00:51:48,328
Where does the White
House stand on --

1032
00:51:48,328 --> 00:51:51,658
Mr. Gibbs:
I've not heard
anything that would --

1033
00:51:51,661 --> 00:51:53,661
from the political shop that
would lead me to believe

1034
00:51:53,661 --> 00:51:58,761
anything other than our
continued support as well.

1035
00:51:58,761 --> 00:52:03,431
The Press:
As a candidate, President Obama said that he would like to see

1036
00:52:03,428 --> 00:52:09,858
fuel economy standards doubled
to 50 miles per gallon by 2027.

1037
00:52:09,861 --> 00:52:12,491
Is the President
committed to that goal?

1038
00:52:12,494 --> 00:52:15,924
Mr. Gibbs:
Let me check and see where -- what the progress we've made and

1039
00:52:15,928 --> 00:52:20,928
where we are on that goal as it relates to the improvements that

1040
00:52:20,928 --> 00:52:25,298
have been made with cars and light trucks and with the

1041
00:52:25,294 --> 00:52:31,824
additional announcements today of larger trucks and work vehicles.

1042
00:52:31,828 --> 00:52:37,558
Let me talk with Carol Browner
and others to see sort of where

1043
00:52:37,561 --> 00:52:39,691
we are on that goal.

1044
00:52:39,695 --> 00:52:40,625
Thanks, guys.

1045
00:52:40,628 --> 00:52:43,458
The Press:
Robert, on the rat,
mouse, mole, vole?

1046
00:52:43,461 --> 00:52:45,061
Have you gotten anything
from the Park Service yet?

1047
00:52:45,061 --> 00:52:46,531
(laughter)

1048
00:52:46,528 --> 00:52:47,828
The Press:
Do you have some control mechanisms in place?

1049
00:52:47,828 --> 00:52:49,028
(laughter)

1050
00:52:49,027 --> 00:52:50,327
The Press:
Can you tell us what it is?

1051
00:52:50,328 --> 00:52:51,798
The Press:
-- red-tail hawk to get --

1052
00:52:51,795 --> 00:52:53,295
Mr. Gibbs:
I will say this --

1053
00:52:53,294 --> 00:52:54,594
The Press:
Is this Burton's wheelhouse?

1054
00:52:54,594 --> 00:52:55,724
(laughter)

1055
00:52:55,728 --> 00:52:57,728
Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, he's in charge of varmint.

1056
00:52:57,728 --> 00:53:03,228
I would say -- Reggie and
I were discussing this.

1057
00:53:03,227 --> 00:53:07,957
Based on the picture that --
the President didn't see this

1058
00:53:07,961 --> 00:53:11,031
yesterday, so I was
telling him about it today.

1059
00:53:11,027 --> 00:53:16,797
And Reggie says field mouse.

1060
00:53:16,795 --> 00:53:17,995
The Press:
No, uh-huh.

1061
00:53:17,994 --> 00:53:19,164
(laughter)

1062
00:53:19,161 --> 00:53:20,431
The Press:
Way too big for a mouse.

1063
00:53:20,428 --> 00:53:22,598
Mr. Gibbs:
I said, based on the
size of the photograph,

1064
00:53:22,594 --> 00:53:24,694
comparing it to
the diameter of --

1065
00:53:24,695 --> 00:53:26,025
The Press:
What's Reggie's
technical expertise?

1066
00:53:26,027 --> 00:53:27,197
(laughter)

1067
00:53:27,194 --> 00:53:29,364
Mr. Gibbs:
My sense is that Reggie has lived in some houses with field

1068
00:53:29,361 --> 00:53:31,261
mouses -- field mice.

1069
00:53:31,261 --> 00:53:32,731
(laughter)

1070
00:53:32,728 --> 00:53:42,498
But I would say, again, judging
the size of the animal,

1071
00:53:42,494 --> 00:53:46,424
based on the diameter of the
seal, I got to tell you,

1072
00:53:46,428 --> 00:53:47,628
that's a rat.

1073
00:53:47,628 --> 00:53:50,598
(laughter)

1074
00:53:50,594 --> 00:53:53,494
Where I'm from that's a rat and
we should treat it as such.

1075
00:53:53,494 --> 00:53:54,594
The Press:
A mole or vole?

1076
00:53:54,594 --> 00:53:56,264
The Press:
We think it's a vole.

1077
00:53:56,261 --> 00:53:57,761
The Press:
What is the President's level
of concern about the rat in the

1078
00:53:57,761 --> 00:53:59,061
Rose Garden?

1079
00:53:59,061 --> 00:54:00,361
Mr. Gibbs:
It's a mole?

1080
00:54:00,361 --> 00:54:01,361
The Press:
A vole.

1081
00:54:01,361 --> 00:54:02,331
We've been online all
day working on this.

1082
00:54:02,328 --> 00:54:03,558
Mr. Gibbs:
What's a vole?

1083
00:54:03,561 --> 00:54:04,761
The Press:
I don't know, but they keep --

1084
00:54:04,761 --> 00:54:05,961
The Press:
A vole is a rodent
about that size.

1085
00:54:05,961 --> 00:54:07,531
Mr. Gibbs:
But it's not a
mole, it's a vole?

1086
00:54:07,528 --> 00:54:10,458
The Press:
Ask the Park Service
to give us an answer.

1087
00:54:10,461 --> 00:54:11,961
Mr. Gibbs:
If we didn't have so many
people in the Gulf working on

1088
00:54:11,961 --> 00:54:13,161
this we could --

1089
00:54:13,161 --> 00:54:14,431
The Press:
What does the President
want done about it?

1090
00:54:14,428 --> 00:54:15,628
The Press:
Are you using humane traps?

1091
00:54:15,628 --> 00:54:16,758
Mr. Gibbs:
What's that?

1092
00:54:16,761 --> 00:54:18,591
The Press:
What does the President
want done about it?

1093
00:54:18,594 --> 00:54:20,664
Mr. Gibbs:
That he did not get into.

1094
00:54:20,661 --> 00:54:23,431
Look, my guess is that it lives
out there somewhere in the Rose

1095
00:54:23,428 --> 00:54:25,558
Garden quite comfortably.

1096
00:54:25,561 --> 00:54:26,791
The Press:
And he's okay with that?

1097
00:54:26,795 --> 00:54:29,595
Mr. Gibbs:
It'd be a pretty good
Rose Garden to live in.

1098
00:54:29,594 --> 00:54:32,464
I still think -- it's
definitely not a mouse.

1099
00:54:32,461 --> 00:54:35,531
I've seen a mouse and
they're not nearly that big.

1100
00:54:35,528 --> 00:54:41,258
But I'm now going to go Google
"vole" and see if John Holdren

1101
00:54:41,261 --> 00:54:42,091
is around.

1102
00:54:42,094 --> 00:54:43,224
Thanks, guys.