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hello
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my name is claudia part of the wikimedia
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mexico team with my colleague raquel we
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will talk about the participation of
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women in wikipedia
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well it was in 2015 when we recognized
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that in wikipedia the work of women were
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not yet related even though it is one of
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the most visited websites
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so carmen alcaza with the collaboration
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of another woman created editatone a
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project a project that used to reduce
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the gender gap in its space
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this project not only generates content
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is not only about writing biographies
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of women it also builds safer spaces for
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them spaces of complicity learning and
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sharing knowledge
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five years after this creation and
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implementation we ask ourselves why are
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women still underrepresented in
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wikipedia content
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this work allows reflection and
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understanding of the causes and effects
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of gender inequality
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also the recovery of the experience of
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wikimedia women on specific practices
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made visible the persistent guts of in
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wikipedia this is how this investigation
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came out
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in this sense we will have two moments
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one where we'll address of these words
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and a second one where we'll answer your
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questions
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well i want to present my friend and
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colleague raquel and she's a feminist
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researcher and women's right activist so
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thank you rachel
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thanks to you dear claudia
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it's
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an honor and a pleasure that you are
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here with me
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i
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have to say that originally anatos from
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wikimedia argentina would be with us but
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she she couldn't be here but
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she's
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here it is claudia so we are really
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happy
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and well it's a very very special moment
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for wikimedia mexico because we are
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sharing with our community the results
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of this
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researching
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and
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i have to say that uh it was an honor to
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me to collaborate with uh the staff of
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wikimedia mexico and a very very uh
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marvelous and generous team so now uh
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i'm gonna present part of the results i
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like i would like to say that um
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the researching will be available
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uh next week on english because we have
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the version and spanish so we're going
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to start presenting the results as a
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claudius said
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wikipedia is one of the most
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consulted site on internet
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is uh
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definitely very important referent on
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the
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uh
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build on the knowledge around the world
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and well um
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unfortunately wikipedia wikipedia could
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not be
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separated
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to the real world and when i say real
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world i mean
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a material world with very very
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functional differences and
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inequalities
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so
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we decided to recovery the experience of
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women because there were
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before
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numbers very important numbers about
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gender gap in wikipedia
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but
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we thought that
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would be very important to to have this
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this number in a
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qualitative level you know for the
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researching with gender perspective
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is very important to
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recovery this part
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the rewards from the experience of women
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this part that could prove
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those inequalities that i
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mentioned before
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and
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yes to answer the question
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why
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on wikipedia
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and a difference
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to less women so
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it will be a kind of a complementary
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approach about this phenomena i mean we
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have the numbers about gender gap and by
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the other side we're going to start to
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recovery this experience
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i think it's very important also to say
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that erica
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as claudia said
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too
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is a project
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that born in in mexico
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during six years editona
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is um a space a secure space
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for women
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and and girls i have to say because
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sometimes teenagers
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were in these
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worships and spaces
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and well it has been very important
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we have more than
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and this
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worksheet
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has a
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repeat in
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some cities in mexico and
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replicated in other countries such
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argentina bolivia chile ecuador el
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salvador spain guatemala honduras
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nicaragua dominican republic and uruguay
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and some cities uh
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in our country like aguascalientes
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chiapas chihuahua guadalajara oaxaca
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we are very happy and we have lots of
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plans about elita tona and well
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some awards like the omesi wattle
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medal
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three years three years before and
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also receive this prize called frida
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that
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is about regional
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innovation projects and well our dear
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dear president of wikimedia mexico
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alcazar was rewarded in
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last days in the frame of
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wikimania because
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she is
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well i don't know how to say this in
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english but
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she is la mas importante wikipedista and
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well to me it was important to say it in
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spanish so
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we are very happy and we are very proud
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about it
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we are um
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we know that is not enough
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we need to do more things about the
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participation of women and girls
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it's also important to say that girls
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have to be part of a
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wikipedia because
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they are part of a very very
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consistent genealogy
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and feminist work approach about uh
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history with women for and with women so
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we we know it and that's why
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we started to to planning this uh
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researching
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but well i i think that
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in general in our community we know that
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there's a kind of world wikipedia a
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world of wikipedia
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we know that wikipedia was born on
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january 15 and
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20 years before
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there are
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other projects
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but what happened about
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our community
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yeah this is a very important point
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as i said at the beginning of the this
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presentation
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maybe we can
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build an image a mental image about the
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community of wikipedia but wikipedia is
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of a social world
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biases and
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lots of problems lots of very
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problematic
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situation so
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i think we need more
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critical frames to understand
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the the social dynamic and interaction
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between people
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on wikipedia so
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ideas and thoughts
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we we need to
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where where are women and what's the
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role of women in in wikipedia and also
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encyclopedia
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uh we have a very complex community
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people around the world
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we have a very very evident cultural
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gaps very important gaps
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that i say
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these connections
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structural inequalities and gaps in
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wikipedia and also the biases i think
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it's very important to recognize that
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we have biases of gender class and race
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put attention about that because
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this frame of analysis
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will be very important to understand
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the results and experience of
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women who participated in
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i am going to recommend to you
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a book
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english heretic knowledge in spanish el
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conocimentoreje
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written by patricio lorente that is an
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argentine professor
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it was to me a very useful tool to
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understand
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the wikipedia world
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and i would like to share to you this uh
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this fact
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this is a situation
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who the um
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that professor lorente could see
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in australia
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in a conference of wikimedia foundation
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sorry it was in taipei and
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the speaker was an australian wikipedian
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and her name was brianna loher
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and and she shared some questions with
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the audience
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i'm gonna read the the entire um idea
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do we want to create a community or do
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we want to prevent the community from
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growing because it distracts us from the
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task of writing and encyclopedia
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bien asked these questions after
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analyzing how the community reacted to
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the actions of new users
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she pointed out for example that
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template is warning new users for
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mistakes
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in the edits often do not serve the
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purpose of socializing newcomers in
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and facilitating their integration but
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rather systemize their faults
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to sustaining an early look what did
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this mean well uh this this question i
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think is uh essential i mean
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what
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we want as a community
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we want to
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that community grows up
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or we want to maintain and keep this
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very closed
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group
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because
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when we
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think about new users
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surely we want to think about women
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because we know that there's a gender
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gap
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yeah
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for example
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if we are talking about 10
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people that it is writing wikipedia
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uh well
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just one
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is a woman so
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it's an evident gender gap so
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we have to recognize that
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if we are talking about new users
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we are talking about women
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yeah so this is a problem about power
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social relation
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um
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based on power and inequalities
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that's why i said at the beginning but
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there's a other level of this
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analysis
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also in the heretic knowledge patricio
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lorente
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tell us about
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this kind of historical power relations
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between spain and latin america for
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example i'm talking about wikipedia in
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spanish
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but i'm i'm pretty sure that this uh
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context is present
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on the rest of the versions of wikipedia
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around the world so
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this is a debate about
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the use of one word
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a
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in
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english
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in latin america we people say papa and
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in spain in the most common word is
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patata
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there there was a kind of uh debate but
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it's amazing
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how uh
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could be
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this kind of situations could be a
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problem
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yeah because well in in this case we
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have this
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paragraph about something that a span a
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spanish men say
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to me what seems like a localism is to
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give into the pressure of the number
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culture has never worked because of
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numbers but for the other less than
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democratic reasons
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if the very important for universal
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culture latin america says papa
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even if it is 10 or 1
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500 million it is something that should
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matter rather light
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yeah
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these um men say that doesn't matter the
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number doesn't matter this um
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kind of uh
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according with the context you know
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it's something like
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some people think from spain that
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they have this power
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to the use of the language
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but
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we know that in our encyclopedia it's
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important to think about diversity
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yeah but this is a very clear example
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about historical power relations
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er social relations and
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we we can imagine this same
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uh situation about
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uh
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the relation of
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between women and men yeah
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okay
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but before to start to present the
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results and
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and this part of the experience of uh
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the this uh those generals generous
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women who participate in our work
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i would like to um
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stop
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and um think about the notion of
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modernity and the notions about
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knowledge yeah i'm gonna
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read something very interesting because
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the
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woman is the first reason for sin the
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cause of the expulsion of men from
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paradise
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and consequently we must avoid all
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traits with her
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we defend and expressly
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prohibit anyone from allowing themselves
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to introduce a woman even if she is the
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most honest in this university well the
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previous paragraph is a fragment of the
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decree of the university of bologna yeah
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we are talking about the referent
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first the oldest university in the
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western and westernized world
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yeah
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and the reference to
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found the modern university so
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this is not part of our imagination
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women
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yeah
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were not part of the modernity
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of the modernity social contract yeah
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what it does mean well that
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women
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are not citizens
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yeah
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maybe
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some people could believe that i am
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crazy because i'm
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telling you that but well
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in this in a full
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21 century
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there's a lot of people that don't
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understand that women
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are people
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in a notion of a
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rights and
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a legal frame you know
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so
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as i said it wasn't part of our
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imagination
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we weren't
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citizens
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and that's why
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the mother
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knowledge of um
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was built yeah
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we can see now two images first
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this project the encyclopedia
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france
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and
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this reference of
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the man
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after that
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we have to assume that this
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representation
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was about humanity
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yeah but it was very very very
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problematic
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because if i i
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see this image
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i'm not
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i'm not there
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because i'm a woman
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and also in in my case
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i'm a woman from a country
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uh
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this division i hate this kind of
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divisions but uh from the third world
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they say before the
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uh half of the
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20th century so uh
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what's your presentation about that this
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diversity the human diversity
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and
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that's that's the way that modernity was
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found yeah so this is very important to
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understand
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that this situation is repeated
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in wikipedia
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i know it's hard to understand it i know
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it's uh uncomfortable to accept it but
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if we
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wanna
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have a
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important and deep transformation in our
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community and the way that we are
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building knowledge we have to recognize
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that
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yeah it's very important to be honest
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and sincere
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sensitive about the inequalities
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well um
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so
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i'm
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gonna share to you some ideas about
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how gender digital gap
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is on wikipedia first
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we have to to think that the very high
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cost of data and digital devices like
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cell phone studies affects those who
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earn less in this case well we are
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talking about women and rural residents
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also these cultural barriers
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these social attitudes
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like women should not use the internet
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or i think about lack of time because
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women have double or triple workload for
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example uh domestic work
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parenting and professional work
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and well in this situation
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with this pandemic scenario was is more
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difficult to to women
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uh the other element
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for the analysis is the self-censorship
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yeah and fear
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don't forget this because it will be
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very important to understand part of uh
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the experience of women in wikipedia
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uh
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well according with this self-censorship
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and the fear yeah
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uh
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because women uh
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experience also a gender violence yeah
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the other is the educational educational
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gap yeah because
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women and men don't receive the same
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education
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doesn't matter if education is a a right
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yeah a human right
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we we also
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can
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observe this kind of
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biases also in the educational
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frame
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and well also
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we have to analyze the access and
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participation of women and girls on the
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internet yeah
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we are talking about appropriation yeah
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the sense about the security yeah and
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also
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those abilities that we develop as a
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human being but particularly as a woman
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in in the world in the social
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world based in inequalities
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uh i i
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want to recover this reflection about
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the censorship
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from margaret gallagher
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she's a
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feminist researcher from england
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and
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she
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notices that
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censorship based on sex is much broader
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more compelling and usually more subtle
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than official or organization
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yeah we are talking about this
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fear inside
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of women yeah
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because they uh
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one um
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don't want to be
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very visible
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they don't want uh to receive attacks
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so the censorship is a kind of tool to
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self-care and self-defense
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yeah
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but but uh the the very shocking element
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on this is that uh
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margaret gallagher says that is
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a stronger
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than official or organization
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this is really shocking because
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we are
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talking about uh freedom
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of speech as a
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human right but at the same time
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we are talking about this very deep
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fear on women and you know what
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i feel this fear
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now i'm feeling this fear
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i'm very happy to share with you with
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our community the results of our
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researching but at the same time and
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i'm really nervous
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because i'm expecting that as maybe
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maybe a group of man a man or a man
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could say something
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something really offensive
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and
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that's the kind of fear that we have to
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experience each day
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and i'm
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exhausted to live deaf
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so
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can you imagine this
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context
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this fear
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repeated in wikipedia
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when we are talking about violence
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against women and girls on internet what
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we are talking
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we are talking about hate speech
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we are talking about cyber bullying
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harassment yeah we are talking that
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the most frequently hashtags
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for example in my city
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that's the
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capital of my country mexico city we
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could
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see
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this
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a very large number of hashtags based in
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hate speech
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yeah we have to recognize that girls
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boys women and young people
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are the main victims of this hate speech
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on internet yeah and as i said in the
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beginning we cannot separate wikipedia
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from the material world the social
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material world yeah
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and
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cyberspace is a kind of extension
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of this
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misogynist violence i went against women
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and girls yeah
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so um
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now i'm gonna talk to to um pass this
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part of this um results and and try to
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the
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to make a chat a very close and chat uh
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closing a
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chat with
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with
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the
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audiences i'm gonna share to you the
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research methodology well of course we
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needed to use gender perspective and
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also the feminist action research
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this access
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are
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the base of our work but i have to say
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that feminist action research
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is
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an a perspective that
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offers the opportunity not only to build
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knowledge
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i'm talking about to build
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alternatives you know solutions
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for a very important problems
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and well we decided to use interview as
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a technique yeah because we wanted to
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recovery in a
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qualitative level
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and well we divide
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into three soft groups our
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informants and well first wikimedia
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volunteers and workers
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after that external wikimedia editors
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but with extensive experience
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and also
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we wanted to recover the experience of a
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wikipedia volunteers that
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don't have this
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extensive experience
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because we are
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interested about the dynamic in
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wikipedia
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on spanish
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we contact in
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people from latin america and spain
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and well
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we
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made about 20 interviews
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and then of course the names of the
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women interviewed that are not uh
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disclosed
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because we are uh
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very interested to warranty uh safety
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and self-care yeah for for us it's very
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important
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develop a ethical work so
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those elements were really really
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important
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yeah
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well what about the discussion of our
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findings
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yeah
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well
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first
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i have to say that
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we worked with women
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who
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have
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access to education
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even in universities so
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the academic background
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fabric them to approach to wikipedia
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uh
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so i think
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if we
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wanna
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that our community
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grows moves up we need to think how to
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approach wikipedia to
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people that don't have this kind of
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academic background i think it's very
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important
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also our participants began creating
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articles on wikipedia
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according with their academic background
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and personal interests
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but
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because they became aware of have
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inequality is present in the in
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wikipedia they became interested in
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create articles about women so
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in this case the experience
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is very important yeah
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well in general our
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informants prefer to edit on their
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computers
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and well um
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some of
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those women do domestic work but
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other very important group have support
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to this
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activity
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but
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they are
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very conscious about
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that the sexual division the division of
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labor involves many responsibilities for
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women
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more in this
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moment of the
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pandemic moment
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and they
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a question
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themselves no
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in what moment women could write on
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wikipedia
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well
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they
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believed that in general
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uh
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is not easy to external
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people of the community to write on
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wikipedia
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they understand that
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again their
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academic framework
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was a very important tool to
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collaborate in wikipedia
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but
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also they
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think as a very important element
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to
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put on the table of the analysis the
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class condition
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yeah we are talking about a
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gender gap but i think it's very
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important to understand that the
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condition of class of people is a very
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very important
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element to understand why people um
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why women
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don't uh write on wikipedia have the
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same
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way of
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according with the
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numbers of of men in wikipedia
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yeah
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because
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poverty
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has
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face of women and girls yeah
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according with numbers of
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international organism
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of
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10 persons in poverty
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7
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are
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women or a girl
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so the condition of class is very
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important yeah
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what
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were the practices and discourses
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detected in our empirical work well
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i'm gonna read some uh
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part of the reflections that
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this group of women
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share that with us
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they're always barriers they're always
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question of the encyclopedia relevance
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of what you write
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if you write about a man
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they don't question you
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and that's generous insecurity that's
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why i concentrated on improving articles
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yeah it's not the same to create an
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article about a woman than amma
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yeah
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uh this is very
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interesting
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i've noticed that since i identified
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myself as a feminine user
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i'm being questionated and monitored
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more yeah
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so
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this is a kind of a strategy
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from
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some group of women
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they prefer
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to choose a masculine or a neutral name
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of user because they don't want to see
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as a woman
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in wikipedia yeah
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well there's another i had suspicions
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about bias in women women's
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participation but it was confirmed
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with the
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editors sometimes even if you're a man
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and you write about women they delete
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your articles
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so
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this kind of practice is part of a very
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misogynist culture yeah
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and uh well
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this practice about uh to the left
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delete
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in a record time there are articles that
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uh talks about
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a woman yeah
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and
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and also well this um
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sense of frustration you know
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uh from women because they
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work really hard to create an article
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and suddenly
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they disappear
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those articles
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yeah
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this is you produce little and what you
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produce
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is erased
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yeah
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and also uh
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our informants say we can utilize
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wikipedia
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because it's uh violent vertical sexist
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yeah
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there are some kind of practices and
867
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dynamics
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yeah this is very important
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and also this the the
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the the that a bad intention is percent
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yeah
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this woman doesn't have doubt about it
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and i think it's very sad and tragic
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yeah
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and what's the difference for example uh
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between the men experience and a woman
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experience yeah we have this my partner
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also did unlike me he has fun
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and i feel
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angus and frustration
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it's a different experience yeah
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why and that's great a man
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feels very happy
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to edit in anything in wikipedia
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but at the same time a woman
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feels fear
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why
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this is a very unfair situation yeah
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and well we have some examples of uh
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attached
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very very
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punctual attacks
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to
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uh this group of women who women who
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participated
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for example this historical relation
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between spain and latin america yeah
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many spanish men are very misogynist
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in mexico some of us think that at the
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night is the best time to edit
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but many times the spaniards arrive
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and are attentive at the time difference
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is when they are active
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yeah and
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this uh
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other idea very important there is a
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selective harassment
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many of these accusations come from
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publishers in spain
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the sense of appropriation of language
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is too strong
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yeah
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well and and
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i think resistance shouldn't be feeling
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afraid yeah
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this is part of
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the experience
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of women yeah
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i don't like to respond the message
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i practice the self-care and i don't
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like to be visible in networks yeah
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i'm trying to use a
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a different name
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00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,680
and well this is very important when
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00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,960
you're less afraid they want to generate
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it
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00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:33,280
this is very tragic this is very sad
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um and we are really worried about it
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yeah
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but well there's a there's a very
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positive part of uh in our work yeah
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we have to
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00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,920
present
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this
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very
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sincere
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and honest framework context about
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wikipedia as an extension of this
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00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,839
structural and material inequalities but
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00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,839
also we want to share to you some keys
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00:36:57,839 --> 00:37:02,880
to promoting women's participation on
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wikipedia first
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00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,880
we need to be together
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00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:12,240
we need to be allies
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and we need to to do this allies with
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00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:18,400
very gentle and generous and kind people
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00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:20,079
yeah it's very important
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00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,440
and we
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00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:26,000
also need
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to write more about women not
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00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:33,040
also in wikipedia we need to write
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00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,400
more about women in media for example
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because
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we we know very well that we need
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00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,320
references when we are writing an
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00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:43,920
article it's very important to write to
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00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,880
recovery
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00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,200
the
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00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,320
history about women
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00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,520
yeah
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00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:54,079
of course um just um
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i'm just sharing to you some parts of
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00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:57,680
our researching
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00:37:55,839 --> 00:38:00,320
you could uh
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00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,800
you you could see next week
966
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,720
the version on english because now is
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00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,520
available in spanish
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but
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00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:13,119
well this is part of a year of very hard
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00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:15,920
work and of course we have lots of plans
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00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:20,400
to promoting women's participation in
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00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:22,800
wikipedia many things i think we can now
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00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,359
be in a conversation with the audience
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00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,359
many things
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00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,920
i don't think we have time for
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00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,520
for questions but we can see each other
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00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,680
in building one
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fifth floor and
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00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:43,839
i think rachel will
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00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,839
respond your your questions
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so
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00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,680
we can enter wind one
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00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:51,680
like
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00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,960
how can we make these articles about
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00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,960
women get more visits
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00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,520
what do you think
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00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:06,240
well i think uh
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00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:09,119
the the for example uh talking about um
989
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:10,400
project i think it's important
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to to
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00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:16,480
produce these worksheets but in at the
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00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,160
same time with a different events like
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00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,359
uh conferences
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00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,680
uh
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00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:23,599
debates i think it's very important uh
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00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,480
to to be
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00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:29,040
um and to make more visible
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00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:32,079
in those articles about women and and
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00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,040
connect with uh a kind of genealogy you
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00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:35,680
know
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00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:39,200
the place of his historical level and
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00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,200
understand that women
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00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,119
have participated in the build of the
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00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,320
world
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00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:47,680
yeah and
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00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,800
and well we are on the half of humanity
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00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,680
so
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00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,800
we we have to be more visible so i think
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00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:57,280
this is important and and also planning
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00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,720
according with a a very punctual and
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00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:02,880
unpopular uh popular in latin america is
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00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,760
something um
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00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,599
not
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00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:11,839
with fame i'm talking about a uh method
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00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:14,560
methodological education from the base
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00:40:11,839 --> 00:40:15,280
yeah from the popular culture
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00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,640
the
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00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,640
this um
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00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,040
indigenous culture
1020
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,319
yeah and we have to recover that we have
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00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,560
to
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00:40:22,319 --> 00:40:26,960
approach to the origin
1023
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:30,400
and the roots of our culture
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00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:33,920
to that references make sense to
1025
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,920
make sense to people i think
1026
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,640
i have a lot of questions what the next
1027
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,800
the next of this investment
1028
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,440
investigation
1029
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,359
what's coming forward
1030
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,920
well we
1031
00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:49,520
have a lot of work in
1032
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,400
mexico because
1033
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,920
we have to plan in
1034
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,359
or make up a plan
1035
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,119
with media because we have to to
1036
00:40:57,359 --> 00:41:01,680
make visible this
1037
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:04,480
research in this investigation and also
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00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:07,040
we are planning um
1039
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,440
a program based in
1040
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,000
education with gender perspective
1041
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,880
to promote the the participation of
1042
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,880
women and also
1043
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,560
doing
1044
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:21,200
allies with media
1045
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,119
because uh there's a very punctual
1046
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:26,160
interest in on
1047
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:29,440
from women of media you know
1048
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:33,200
journalists writers uh
1049
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:35,839
indigenous communicators so we have to
1050
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,240
build this net
1051
00:41:35,839 --> 00:41:41,119
net in feminist
1052
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:44,720
net you know to to try to work
1053
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:46,960
according with our access and i think
1054
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:49,119
that's two of
1055
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,319
the basic actions actions that we have
1056
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:53,440
to develop
1057
00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:53,440
to the rest of the year
1058
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,160
thank you michael i love this
1059
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,040
presentation
1060
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:04,000
and i just only went left one last
1061
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,440
question where we can find the finest
1062
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,440
version of this
1063
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,160
investigation
1064
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,160
yeah if you
1065
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:17,680
search on wikimedia commons
1066
00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:18,560
you can find in the version on spanish
1067
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,359
and
1068
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,880
next week in the version on english will
1069
00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:25,040
be available
1070
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,200
in in the same
1071
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,880
section in wikimedia
1072
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,280
comes
1073
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,880
and and you can find it
1074
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,240
in a
1075
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:38,880
name on spanish nosotros
1076
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,880
wikipedia
1077
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:48,480
okay thank you a lot franco do you want
1078
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:51,040
to share another thing another message
1079
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:54,640
for the public
1080
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:57,119
yes what we have only one minute left so
1081
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,599
i'm very happy it was an honor
1082
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:01,680
thank you very much to our community and
1083
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:02,720
especially i want to
1084
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,920
a
1085
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:08,800
thanks to our president carmen alcazar
1086
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:11,359
for all the support and also i want to
1087
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,720
thank to you my dear clau
1088
00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:15,359
claudia and
1089
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:18,400
our dear alex
1090
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:22,000
is a marvelous staff of
1091
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:25,920
mexico and i'm i feel really proud
1092
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,520
and grateful with with you guys so
1093
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,839
a very very
1094
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:33,680
strong hope for our community and our
1095
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:35,359
international community many things
1096
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,520
thank you a lot
1097
00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:42,839
see you
1098
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,839
for the mexican people in in the chat
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00:43:45,050 --> 00:43:49,949
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