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hello

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my name is claudia part of the wikimedia

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mexico team with my colleague raquel we

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will talk about the participation of

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women in wikipedia

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well it was in 2015 when we recognized

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that in wikipedia the work of women were

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not yet related even though it is one of

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the most visited websites

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so carmen alcaza with the collaboration

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of another woman created editatone a

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project a project that used to reduce

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the gender gap in its space

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this project not only generates content

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is not only about writing biographies

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of women it also builds safer spaces for

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them spaces of complicity learning and

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sharing knowledge

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five years after this creation and

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implementation we ask ourselves why are

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women still underrepresented in

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wikipedia content

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this work allows reflection and

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understanding of the causes and effects

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of gender inequality

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also the recovery of the experience of

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wikimedia women on specific practices

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made visible the persistent guts of in

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wikipedia this is how this investigation

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came out

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in this sense we will have two moments

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one where we'll address of these words

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and a second one where we'll answer your

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questions

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well i want to present my friend and

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colleague raquel and she's a feminist

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researcher and women's right activist so

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thank you rachel

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thanks to you dear claudia

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it's

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an honor and a pleasure that you are

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here with me

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i

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have to say that originally anatos from

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wikimedia argentina would be with us but

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she she couldn't be here but

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she's

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here it is claudia so we are really

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happy

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and well it's a very very special moment

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for wikimedia mexico because we are

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sharing with our community the results

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of this

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researching

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i have to say that uh it was an honor to

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me to collaborate with uh the staff of

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wikimedia mexico and a very very uh

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marvelous and generous team so now uh

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i'm gonna present part of the results i

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like i would like to say that um

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the researching will be available

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uh next week on english because we have

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the version and spanish so we're going

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to start presenting the results as a

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claudius said

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wikipedia is one of the most

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consulted site on internet

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is uh

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definitely very important referent on

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the

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build on the knowledge around the world

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and well um

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unfortunately wikipedia wikipedia could

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not be

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to the real world and when i say real

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world i mean

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a material world with very very

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functional differences and

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inequalities

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so

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we decided to recovery the experience of

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women because there were

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before

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numbers very important numbers about

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gender gap in wikipedia

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but

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we thought that

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would be very important to to have this

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this number in a

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qualitative level you know for the

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researching with gender perspective

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is very important to

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recovery this part

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the rewards from the experience of women

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this part that could prove

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those inequalities that i

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mentioned before

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yes to answer the question

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why

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more

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men

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write

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on wikipedia

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and a difference

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to less women so

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it will be a kind of a complementary

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approach about this phenomena i mean we

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have the numbers about gender gap and by

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the other side we're going to start to

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recovery this experience

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i think it's very important also to say

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that erica

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as claudia said

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too

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is a project

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that born in in mexico

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during six years editona

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is um a space a secure space

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for women

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and and girls i have to say because

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sometimes teenagers

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were in these

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worships and spaces

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and well it has been very important

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we have more than

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and this

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worksheet

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has a

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repeat in

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some cities in mexico and

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replicated in other countries such

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argentina bolivia chile ecuador el

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salvador spain guatemala honduras

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nicaragua dominican republic and uruguay

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and some cities uh

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in our country like aguascalientes

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chiapas chihuahua guadalajara oaxaca

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we are very happy and we have lots of

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plans about elita tona and well

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some awards like the omesi wattle

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medal

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three years three years before and

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also receive this prize called frida

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that

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is about regional

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innovation projects and well our dear

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dear president of wikimedia mexico

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alcazar was rewarded in

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last days in the frame of

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wikimania because

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she is

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well i don't know how to say this in

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english but

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she is la mas importante wikipedista and

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well to me it was important to say it in

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spanish so

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um

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we are very happy and we are very proud

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about it

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we are um

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we know that is not enough

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we need to do more things about the

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participation of women and girls

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it's also important to say that girls

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have to be part of a

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wikipedia because

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they are part of a very very

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consistent genealogy

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and feminist work approach about uh

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history with women for and with women so

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we we know it and that's why

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we started to to planning this uh

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researching

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but well i i think that

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in general in our community we know that

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there's a kind of world wikipedia a

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world of wikipedia

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we know that wikipedia was born on

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20 years before

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there are

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other projects

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but what happened about

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our community

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yeah this is a very important point

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as i said at the beginning of the this

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presentation

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maybe we can

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build an image a mental image about the

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community of wikipedia but wikipedia is

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of a social world

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biases and

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lots of problems lots of very

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i think we need more

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critical frames to understand

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the the social dynamic and interaction

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between people

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ideas and thoughts

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we we need to

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where where are women and what's the

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role of women in in wikipedia and also

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how the representation of women in our

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uh we have a very complex community

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people around the world

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all uh versions of wikipedia

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we have a very very evident cultural

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diversity

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gaps very important gaps

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that i say

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these connections

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structural inequalities and gaps in

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wikipedia and also the biases i think

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it's very important to recognize that

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we have biases of gender class and race

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put attention about that because

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this frame of analysis

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will be very important to understand

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the results and experience of

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women who participated in

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our research

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i am going to recommend to you

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a book

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in

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english heretic knowledge in spanish el

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conocimentoreje

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written by patricio lorente that is an

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argentine professor

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it was to me a very useful tool to

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the wikipedia world

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and i would like to share to you this uh

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this fact

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this is a situation

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who the um

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that professor lorente could see

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in a conference of wikimedia foundation

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sorry it was in taipei and

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the speaker was an australian wikipedian

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and her name was brianna loher

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and and she shared some questions with

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the audience

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i'm gonna read the the entire um idea

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do we want to create a community or do

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we want to prevent the community from

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growing because it distracts us from the

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task of writing and encyclopedia

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bien asked these questions after

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analyzing how the community reacted to

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the actions of new users

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she pointed out for example that

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template is warning new users for

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mistakes

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in the edits often do not serve the

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purpose of socializing newcomers in

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and facilitating their integration but

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rather systemize their faults

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to sustaining an early look what did

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this mean well uh this this question i

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think is uh essential i mean

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what

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we want as a community

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we want to

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that community grows up

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or we want to maintain and keep this

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very closed

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group

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because

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when we

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think about new users

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surely we want to think about women

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because we know that there's a gender

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gap

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yeah

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for example

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if we are talking about 10

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people that it is writing wikipedia

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uh well

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just one

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is a woman so

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it's an evident gender gap so

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we have to recognize that

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if we are talking about new users

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we are talking about women

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yeah so this is a problem about power

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social relation

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um

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based on power and inequalities

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that's why i said at the beginning but

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there's a other level of this

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analysis

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also in the heretic knowledge patricio

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lorente

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tell us about

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this kind of historical power relations

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between spain and latin america for

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example i'm talking about wikipedia in

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spanish

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but i'm i'm pretty sure that this uh

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context is present

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on the rest of the versions of wikipedia

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around the world so

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this is a debate about

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the use of one word

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a

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in

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english

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in latin america we people say papa and

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in spain in the most common word is

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patata

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there there was a kind of uh debate but

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it's amazing

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how uh

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could be

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this kind of situations could be a

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problem

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yeah because well in in this case we

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have this

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[Music]

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paragraph about something that a span a

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spanish men say

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to me what seems like a localism is to

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give into the pressure of the number

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culture has never worked because of

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numbers but for the other less than

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democratic reasons

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if the very important for universal

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culture latin america says papa

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even if it is 10 or 1

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500 million it is something that should

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matter rather light

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yeah

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these um men say that doesn't matter the

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number doesn't matter this um

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kind of uh

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according with the context you know

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it's something like

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some people think from spain that

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they have this power

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to the use of the language

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but

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we know that in our encyclopedia it's

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important to think about diversity

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yeah but this is a very clear example

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about historical power relations

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er social relations and

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we we can imagine this same

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uh situation about

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uh

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the relation of

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between women and men yeah

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okay

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but before to start to present the

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results and

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and this part of the experience of uh

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the this uh those generals generous

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women who participate in our work

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i would like to um

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stop

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and um think about the notion of

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modernity and the notions about

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knowledge yeah i'm gonna

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read something very interesting because

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the

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woman is the first reason for sin the

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cause of the expulsion of men from

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paradise

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and consequently we must avoid all

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traits with her

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we defend and expressly

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prohibit anyone from allowing themselves

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to introduce a woman even if she is the

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most honest in this university well the

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previous paragraph is a fragment of the

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decree of the university of bologna yeah

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we are talking about the referent

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first the oldest university in the

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western and westernized world

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yeah

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and the reference to

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found the modern university so

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this is not part of our imagination

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women

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yeah

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were not part of the modernity

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of the modernity social contract yeah

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what it does mean well that

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women

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are not citizens

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yeah

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maybe

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some people could believe that i am

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crazy because i'm

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telling you that but well

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in this in a full

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21 century

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there's a lot of people that don't

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understand that women

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are people

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in a notion of a

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rights and

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a legal frame you know

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so

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as i said it wasn't part of our

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imagination

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we weren't

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citizens

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and that's why

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the mother

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knowledge of um

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was built yeah

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we can see now two images first

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this project the encyclopedia

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france

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and

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this reference of

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the man

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after that

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we have to assume that this

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representation

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was about humanity

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yeah but it was very very very

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problematic

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because if i i

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see this image

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i'm not

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i'm not there

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because i'm a woman

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and also in in my case

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i'm a woman from a country

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uh

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this division i hate this kind of

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divisions but uh from the third world

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they say before the

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uh half of the

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20th century so uh

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what's your presentation about that this

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diversity the human diversity

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and

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that's that's the way that modernity was

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found yeah so this is very important to

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understand

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that this situation is repeated

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in wikipedia

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i know it's hard to understand it i know

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it's uh uncomfortable to accept it but

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if we

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wanna

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have a

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important and deep transformation in our

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community and the way that we are

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building knowledge we have to recognize

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that

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yeah it's very important to be honest

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and sincere

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sensitive about the inequalities

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well um

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so

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i'm

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gonna share to you some ideas about

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how gender digital gap

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is on wikipedia first

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we have to to think that the very high

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cost of data and digital devices like

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cell phone studies affects those who

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earn less in this case well we are

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talking about women and rural residents

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also these cultural barriers

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these social attitudes

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like women should not use the internet

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or i think about lack of time because

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women have double or triple workload for

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example uh domestic work

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parenting and professional work

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and well in this situation

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with this pandemic scenario was is more

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difficult to to women

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uh the other element

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for the analysis is the self-censorship

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yeah and fear

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don't forget this because it will be

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very important to understand part of uh

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the experience of women in wikipedia

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uh

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well according with this self-censorship

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and the fear yeah

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uh

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because women uh

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experience also a gender violence yeah

534
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the other is the educational educational

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gap yeah because

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women and men don't receive the same

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education

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doesn't matter if education is a a right

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yeah a human right

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we we also

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can

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observe this kind of

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biases also in the educational

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frame

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and well also

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we have to analyze the access and

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participation of women and girls on the

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internet yeah

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we are talking about appropriation yeah

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the sense about the security yeah and

551
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also

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those abilities that we develop as a

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human being but particularly as a woman

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in in the world in the social

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world based in inequalities

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uh i i

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want to recover this reflection about

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the censorship

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00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,799
from margaret gallagher

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she's a

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feminist researcher from england

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and

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she

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notices that

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censorship based on sex is much broader

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more compelling and usually more subtle

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than official or organization

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yeah we are talking about this

569
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fear inside

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of women yeah

571
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because they uh

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one um

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don't want to be

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very visible

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they don't want uh to receive attacks

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so the censorship is a kind of tool to

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self-care and self-defense

578
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yeah

579
00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:14,960
but but uh the the very shocking element

580
00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:17,520
on this is that uh

581
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margaret gallagher says that is

582
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a stronger

583
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than official or organization

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this is really shocking because

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we are

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talking about uh freedom

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of speech as a

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human right but at the same time

589
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we are talking about this very deep

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fear on women and you know what

591
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i feel this fear

592
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now i'm feeling this fear

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i'm very happy to share with you with

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our community the results of our

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researching but at the same time and

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i'm really nervous

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because i'm expecting that as maybe

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maybe a group of man a man or a man

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could say something

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something really offensive

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and

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that's the kind of fear that we have to

603
00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:16,840
experience each day

604
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,000
and i'm

605
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,880
exhausted to live deaf

606
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,600
so

607
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,440
can you imagine this

608
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,720
context

609
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,240
this fear

610
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,240
repeated in wikipedia

611
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,440
when we are talking about violence

612
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,880
against women and girls on internet what

613
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,360
we are talking

614
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,120
we are talking about hate speech

615
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:45,600
we are talking about cyber bullying

616
00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:48,480
harassment yeah we are talking that

617
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:51,039
the most frequently hashtags

618
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,240
for example in my city

619
00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:55,919
that's the

620
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,720
capital of my country mexico city we

621
00:24:55,919 --> 00:24:57,840
could

622
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,880
see

623
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,080
this

624
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,440
a very large number of hashtags based in

625
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,520
hate speech

626
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,520
yeah we have to recognize that girls

627
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,840
boys women and young people

628
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,960
are the main victims of this hate speech

629
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:15,440
on internet yeah and as i said in the

630
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,919
beginning we cannot separate wikipedia

631
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,240
from the material world the social

632
00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:21,039
material world yeah

633
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,919
and

634
00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:25,039
cyberspace is a kind of extension

635
00:25:23,919 --> 00:25:27,760
of this

636
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:29,679
misogynist violence i went against women

637
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,559
and girls yeah

638
00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:36,480
so um

639
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:39,840
now i'm gonna talk to to um pass this

640
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,720
part of this um results and and try to

641
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,159
the

642
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:46,000
to make a chat a very close and chat uh

643
00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:47,120
closing a

644
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,320
chat with

645
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,039
with

646
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,080
the

647
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:55,760
audiences i'm gonna share to you the

648
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:59,200
research methodology well of course we

649
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:02,240
needed to use gender perspective and

650
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:04,240
also the feminist action research

651
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,520
this access

652
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,600
are

653
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,679
the base of our work but i have to say

654
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,760
that feminist action research

655
00:26:09,679 --> 00:26:14,320
is

656
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:18,480
an a perspective that

657
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,919
offers the opportunity not only to build

658
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,279
knowledge

659
00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:25,840
i'm talking about to build

660
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:28,640
alternatives you know solutions

661
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,679
for a very important problems

662
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:35,440
and well we decided to use interview as

663
00:26:31,679 --> 00:26:37,039
a technique yeah because we wanted to

664
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,440
recovery in a

665
00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:41,840
qualitative level

666
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:46,240
and well we divide

667
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:48,960
into three soft groups our

668
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:51,120
informants and well first wikimedia

669
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:54,480
volunteers and workers

670
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:57,760
after that external wikimedia editors

671
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:59,120
but with extensive experience

672
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,400
and also

673
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:03,840
we wanted to recover the experience of a

674
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,520
[Music]

675
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,520
wikipedia volunteers that

676
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,799
don't have this

677
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,799
extensive experience

678
00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:17,840
because we are

679
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:19,120
interested about the dynamic in

680
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,480
wikipedia

681
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:22,640
on spanish

682
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,360
we contact in

683
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,039
people from latin america and spain

684
00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,240
and well

685
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:31,600
we

686
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:34,000
made about 20 interviews

687
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,799
and then of course the names of the

688
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,919
women interviewed that are not uh

689
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:40,320
disclosed

690
00:27:37,919 --> 00:27:43,520
because we are uh

691
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:46,240
very interested to warranty uh safety

692
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,080
and self-care yeah for for us it's very

693
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,880
important

694
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:53,440
develop a ethical work so

695
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,559
those elements were really really

696
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,360
important

697
00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:57,919
yeah

698
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:59,120
well what about the discussion of our

699
00:27:57,919 --> 00:27:59,919
findings

700
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:01,520
yeah

701
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:02,399
well

702
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,000
first

703
00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:07,440
i have to say that

704
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,640
we worked with women

705
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,520
who

706
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,640
have

707
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:15,760
access to education

708
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:18,000
even in universities so

709
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:21,679
the academic background

710
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,480
fabric them to approach to wikipedia

711
00:28:21,679 --> 00:28:24,559
uh

712
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840
so i think

713
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:27,840
if we

714
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,440
wanna

715
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,880
that our community

716
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,960
grows moves up we need to think how to

717
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,080
approach wikipedia to

718
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:40,000
people that don't have this kind of

719
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,840
academic background i think it's very

720
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,720
important

721
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:47,279
also our participants began creating

722
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:50,080
articles on wikipedia

723
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:52,240
according with their academic background

724
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,760
and personal interests

725
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,559
but

726
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:59,440
because they became aware of have

727
00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:03,360
inequality is present in the in

728
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:06,559
wikipedia they became interested in

729
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:08,480
create articles about women so

730
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:10,720
in this case the experience

731
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,679
is very important yeah

732
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,720
well in general our

733
00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:18,320
informants prefer to edit on their

734
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,799
computers

735
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,480
and well um

736
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:26,399
some of

737
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:29,440
those women do domestic work but

738
00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:30,399
other very important group have support

739
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,919
to this

740
00:29:30,399 --> 00:29:32,720
activity

741
00:29:31,919 --> 00:29:34,159
but

742
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,240
they are

743
00:29:34,159 --> 00:29:39,200
very conscious about

744
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,760
that the sexual division the division of

745
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,880
labor involves many responsibilities for

746
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,799
women

747
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,960
more in this

748
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:48,799
moment of the

749
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,600
pandemic moment

750
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:51,600
and they

751
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,600
a question

752
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,399
themselves no

753
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,720
in what moment women could write on

754
00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:02,960
wikipedia

755
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,960
well

756
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:06,640
they

757
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,240
believed that in general

758
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,440
uh

759
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:14,240
is not easy to external

760
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,480
people of the community to write on

761
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,880
wikipedia

762
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,039
they understand that

763
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,600
again their

764
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:26,640
academic framework

765
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:29,440
was a very important tool to

766
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,240
collaborate in wikipedia

767
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,520
but

768
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,480
also they

769
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,440
think as a very important element

770
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,000
to

771
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,760
put on the table of the analysis the

772
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,559
class condition

773
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,640
yeah we are talking about a

774
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:46,799
gender gap but i think it's very

775
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,440
important to understand that the

776
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:51,600
condition of class of people is a very

777
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:55,919
very important

778
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,840
element to understand why people um

779
00:30:55,919 --> 00:31:00,880
why women

780
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,840
don't uh write on wikipedia have the

781
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,120
same

782
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,799
way of

783
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,679
according with the

784
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:08,480
numbers of of men in wikipedia

785
00:31:07,679 --> 00:31:09,440
yeah

786
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,559
because

787
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,519
poverty

788
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:14,960
has

789
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:16,880
face of women and girls yeah

790
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:20,000
according with numbers of

791
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,960
international organism

792
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,279
of

793
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,559
10 persons in poverty

794
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,519
7

795
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:28,480
are

796
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:30,480
women or a girl

797
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,480
so the condition of class is very

798
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,360
important yeah

799
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,440
what

800
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,799
were the practices and discourses

801
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,440
detected in our empirical work well

802
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:44,559
i'm gonna read some uh

803
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,640
part of the reflections that

804
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:48,559
this group of women

805
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,480
share that with us

806
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:52,640
they're always barriers they're always

807
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,240
question of the encyclopedia relevance

808
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,480
of what you write

809
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,240
if you write about a man

810
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,120
they don't question you

811
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:04,159
and that's generous insecurity that's

812
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:06,480
why i concentrated on improving articles

813
00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:09,840
yeah it's not the same to create an

814
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,200
article about a woman than amma

815
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,440
yeah

816
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,399
uh this is very

817
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,440
interesting

818
00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:20,000
i've noticed that since i identified

819
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,240
myself as a feminine user

820
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,080
i'm being questionated and monitored

821
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,200
more yeah

822
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,519
so

823
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,320
this is a kind of a strategy

824
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:29,519
from

825
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,320
[Music]

826
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:33,760
some group of women

827
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,440
they prefer

828
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:41,519
to choose a masculine or a neutral name

829
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,960
of user because they don't want to see

830
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:46,159
as a woman

831
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,559
in wikipedia yeah

832
00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:50,399
well there's another i had suspicions

833
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:53,600
about bias in women women's

834
00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:54,840
participation but it was confirmed

835
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,159
with the

836
00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:00,159
editors sometimes even if you're a man

837
00:32:58,159 --> 00:33:02,000
and you write about women they delete

838
00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:02,799
your articles

839
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,840
so

840
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:09,519
this kind of practice is part of a very

841
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:11,600
misogynist culture yeah

842
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:14,000
and uh well

843
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,039
this practice about uh to the left

844
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,919
delete

845
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:19,840
in a record time there are articles that

846
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:21,360
uh talks about

847
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,159
a woman yeah

848
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,399
and

849
00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:26,880
and also well this um

850
00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:29,679
sense of frustration you know

851
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:32,480
uh from women because they

852
00:33:29,679 --> 00:33:33,919
work really hard to create an article

853
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,440
and suddenly

854
00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:36,799
they disappear

855
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,120
those articles

856
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:41,200
yeah

857
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,240
this is you produce little and what you

858
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,760
produce

859
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,640
is erased

860
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,360
yeah

861
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,840
and also uh

862
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,440
our informants say we can utilize

863
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:56,080
wikipedia

864
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,960
because it's uh violent vertical sexist

865
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,039
yeah

866
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,279
there are some kind of practices and

867
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:03,679
dynamics

868
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:07,360
yeah this is very important

869
00:34:03,679 --> 00:34:11,040
and also this the the

870
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,960
the the that a bad intention is percent

871
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,240
yeah

872
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:19,679
this woman doesn't have doubt about it

873
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:20,879
and i think it's very sad and tragic

874
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:24,800
yeah

875
00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:28,720
and what's the difference for example uh

876
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:31,359
between the men experience and a woman

877
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:34,879
experience yeah we have this my partner

878
00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:36,720
also did unlike me he has fun

879
00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:39,280
and i feel

880
00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:41,760
angus and frustration

881
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,879
it's a different experience yeah

882
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:47,119
why and that's great a man

883
00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:50,800
feels very happy

884
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:53,440
to edit in anything in wikipedia

885
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,919
but at the same time a woman

886
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,040
feels fear

887
00:34:55,919 --> 00:35:00,079
why

888
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:03,359
this is a very unfair situation yeah

889
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:04,480
and well we have some examples of uh

890
00:35:03,359 --> 00:35:06,320
attached

891
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,000
very very

892
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,800
punctual attacks

893
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,839
to

894
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,599
uh this group of women who women who

895
00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:15,920
participated

896
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:20,400
for example this historical relation

897
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:23,599
between spain and latin america yeah

898
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:26,079
many spanish men are very misogynist

899
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:28,400
in mexico some of us think that at the

900
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:31,359
night is the best time to edit

901
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,839
but many times the spaniards arrive

902
00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:36,079
and are attentive at the time difference

903
00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:37,200
is when they are active

904
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:39,040
yeah and

905
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,960
this uh

906
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,720
other idea very important there is a

907
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,960
selective harassment

908
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:47,119
many of these accusations come from

909
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,520
publishers in spain

910
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:51,040
the sense of appropriation of language

911
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,640
is too strong

912
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,480
yeah

913
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,440
well and and

914
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,040
i think resistance shouldn't be feeling

915
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,240
afraid yeah

916
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,839
this is part of

917
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:05,839
the experience

918
00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:09,920
of women yeah

919
00:36:05,839 --> 00:36:09,920
i don't like to respond the message

920
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:15,760
i practice the self-care and i don't

921
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,839
like to be visible in networks yeah

922
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,560
i'm trying to use a

923
00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:22,960
a different name

924
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,680
and well this is very important when

925
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,960
you're less afraid they want to generate

926
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,160
it

927
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:33,280
this is very tragic this is very sad

928
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,560
um and we are really worried about it

929
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,160
yeah

930
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,760
but well there's a there's a very

931
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,760
positive part of uh in our work yeah

932
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,960
we have to

933
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,920
present

934
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,880
this

935
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,079
very

936
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,800
sincere

937
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:52,560
and honest framework context about

938
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:55,680
wikipedia as an extension of this

939
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,839
structural and material inequalities but

940
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,839
also we want to share to you some keys

941
00:36:57,839 --> 00:37:02,880
to promoting women's participation on

942
00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:05,359
wikipedia first

943
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,880
we need to be together

944
00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:12,240
we need to be allies

945
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:16,079
and we need to to do this allies with

946
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:18,400
very gentle and generous and kind people

947
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:20,079
yeah it's very important

948
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,440
and we

949
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:26,000
also need

950
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:30,000
to write more about women not

951
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:33,040
also in wikipedia we need to write

952
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,400
more about women in media for example

953
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,280
because

954
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,599
we we know very well that we need

955
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,320
references when we are writing an

956
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:43,920
article it's very important to write to

957
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,880
recovery

958
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,200
the

959
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,320
history about women

960
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,520
yeah

961
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:54,079
of course um just um

962
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,839
i'm just sharing to you some parts of

963
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:57,680
our researching

964
00:37:55,839 --> 00:38:00,320
you could uh

965
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,800
you you could see next week

966
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,720
the version on english because now is

967
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,520
available in spanish

968
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:09,359
but

969
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:13,119
well this is part of a year of very hard

970
00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:15,920
work and of course we have lots of plans

971
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:20,400
to promoting women's participation in

972
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:22,800
wikipedia many things i think we can now

973
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,359
be in a conversation with the audience

974
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,359
many things

975
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,920
i don't think we have time for

976
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,520
for questions but we can see each other

977
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,680
in building one

978
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,920
fifth floor and

979
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:43,839
i think rachel will

980
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,839
respond your your questions

981
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:47,599
so

982
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,680
we can enter wind one

983
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:51,680
like

984
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,960
how can we make these articles about

985
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,960
women get more visits

986
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,520
what do you think

987
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:06,240
well i think uh

988
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:09,119
the the for example uh talking about um

989
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:10,400
project i think it's important

990
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:13,440
to to

991
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:16,480
produce these worksheets but in at the

992
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,160
same time with a different events like

993
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,359
uh conferences

994
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,680
uh

995
00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:23,599
debates i think it's very important uh

996
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,480
to to be

997
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:29,040
um and to make more visible

998
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:32,079
in those articles about women and and

999
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,040
connect with uh a kind of genealogy you

1000
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:35,680
know

1001
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:39,200
the place of his historical level and

1002
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,200
understand that women

1003
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,119
have participated in the build of the

1004
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,320
world

1005
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:47,680
yeah and

1006
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,800
and well we are on the half of humanity

1007
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,680
so

1008
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,800
we we have to be more visible so i think

1009
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:57,280
this is important and and also planning

1010
00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,720
according with a a very punctual and

1011
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:02,880
unpopular uh popular in latin america is

1012
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,760
something um

1013
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,599
not

1014
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:11,839
with fame i'm talking about a uh method

1015
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:14,560
methodological education from the base

1016
00:40:11,839 --> 00:40:15,280
yeah from the popular culture

1017
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,640
the

1018
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,640
this um

1019
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,040
indigenous culture

1020
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,319
yeah and we have to recover that we have

1021
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,560
to

1022
00:40:22,319 --> 00:40:26,960
approach to the origin

1023
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:30,400
and the roots of our culture

1024
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:33,920
to that references make sense to

1025
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,920
make sense to people i think

1026
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,640
i have a lot of questions what the next

1027
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,800
the next of this investment

1028
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,440
investigation

1029
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,359
what's coming forward

1030
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,920
well we

1031
00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:49,520
have a lot of work in

1032
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,400
mexico because

1033
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,920
we have to plan in

1034
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,359
or make up a plan

1035
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,119
with media because we have to to

1036
00:40:57,359 --> 00:41:01,680
make visible this

1037
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:04,480
research in this investigation and also

1038
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:07,040
we are planning um

1039
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,440
a program based in

1040
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,000
education with gender perspective

1041
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,880
to promote the the participation of

1042
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,880
women and also

1043
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,560
doing

1044
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:21,200
allies with media

1045
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,119
because uh there's a very punctual

1046
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:26,160
interest in on

1047
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:29,440
from women of media you know

1048
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:33,200
journalists writers uh

1049
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:35,839
indigenous communicators so we have to

1050
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,240
build this net

1051
00:41:35,839 --> 00:41:41,119
net in feminist

1052
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:44,720
net you know to to try to work

1053
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:46,960
according with our access and i think

1054
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:49,119
that's two of

1055
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,319
the basic actions actions that we have

1056
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:53,440
to develop

1057
00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:53,440
to the rest of the year

1058
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,160
thank you michael i love this

1059
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,040
presentation

1060
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:04,000
and i just only went left one last

1061
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,440
question where we can find the finest

1062
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,440
version of this

1063
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,160
investigation

1064
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,160
yeah if you

1065
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:17,680
search on wikimedia commons

1066
00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:18,560
you can find in the version on spanish

1067
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,359
and

1068
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,880
next week in the version on english will

1069
00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:25,040
be available

1070
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,200
in in the same

1071
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,880
section in wikimedia

1072
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,280
comes

1073
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,880
and and you can find it

1074
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,240
in a

1075
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:38,880
name on spanish nosotros

1076
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,880
wikipedia

1077
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:48,480
okay thank you a lot franco do you want

1078
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:51,040
to share another thing another message

1079
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:54,640
for the public

1080
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:57,119
yes what we have only one minute left so

1081
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,599
i'm very happy it was an honor

1082
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:01,680
thank you very much to our community and

1083
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:02,720
especially i want to

1084
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,920
a

1085
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:08,800
thanks to our president carmen alcazar

1086
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:11,359
for all the support and also i want to

1087
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,720
thank to you my dear clau

1088
00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:15,359
claudia and

1089
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:18,400
our dear alex

1090
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:22,000
is a marvelous staff of

1091
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:25,920
mexico and i'm i feel really proud

1092
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,520
and grateful with with you guys so

1093
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,839
a very very

1094
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:33,680
strong hope for our community and our

1095
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:35,359
international community many things

1096
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,520
thank you a lot

1097
00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:42,839
see you

1098
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,839
for the mexican people in in the chat

1099
00:43:45,050 --> 00:43:49,949
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