User talk:源義信

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File:VA066396 Photograph.jpg

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Moonfvblofg2678 (talk) 01:31, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

File:Portrait of Huang Chujiu.jpg

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User who nominated the file for deletion (Nominator) : Tokisaki Kurumi.

And also:

• File:Portrait of Huang Chujiu 02.jpg ( Nominator : Tokisaki Kurumi | Reason : The website states "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED". )

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File:Portrait of Huang Chujiu 02.jpg

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ときさき くるみ ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 21:03, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

File:Portrait of Huang Chujiu.jpg

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ときさき くるみ ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 21:04, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

South Vietnamese insignia

Hello Nguyên Nghĩa Tín (源義信),

I recently came across this webpage:

• http://cadaotucngu.com/hph/Suutap/Phuhieu/phuhieuqlvnch.htm (Archive).

It lists all insignia of the military and police forces of the Republic of Vietnam (well, one (1) file seems to be broken, so almost all), I'm not sure if you want to import them all or not, but anyhow I wondered if you ever came across such insignia from the State of Việt Nam period as you were importing government works from this period, but for whatever reason I mostly only find Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam) period files and insignias whenever I search 🔎. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:00, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Donald Trung,

Thanks for reminding me! I had often seen similar lists, but I hadn't started working on Commons at that time. When I tried searching on Commons after seeing your message, I realised that most of these insignias hadn't been uploaded yet (although there are many files of military flags that have even been vectorised). There is a book called Remembering the ARVN which is about the military insignias of South Vietnam. This book contains several insignias of military units in the State of Vietnam era.

But these insignias were those of battalion units, and I don't recall seeing the insignias or flags of higher-ranking units from the State of Vietnam era... As for other forces like Hoa Hao, Binh Xuyen or ethnic minority forces, I've also seen some on the internet, such as: [1] 源義信 (talk) 23:50, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Except for the cap badge (page 116) of the state of Vietnam period, which can also be found on many old photographs.

The badge was also used in the RVN era, as [2], [3].--源義信 (talk) 00:10, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Amazing book, I'm glad someone made it, I was about to look for the author to ask for VRT permission but then realised that he was selling his book on Amazon so I highly doubt that that would lead anywhere, maybe still worth a try. Quite interesting that there was also an alternative badge attributed to the "Phù hiệu thời Vua Bảo Đại - Cap Badge of Royal Guards" other than the one attributed to the "Phù hiệu nón Ngự Lâm Quân - Royal Guard Brigade" that I already knew. This book contains a lot of insignia but completely misses the Provisional Central Government of Vietnam which also had its own insignia. For example the badge attributed to "Badge of the Việt binh đoàn - Vietnamese Army (1947-49)" here. I used to think that the addition of the bird was influence from the United States of America but apparently it dates long before the American influence began. What is interesting is that President Ngô Đình Diệm generally tends to replace images of dragons wherever he could find them, likely because he had a grudge against the former-Emperor.
Also, he added an ink brush and a sword to his symbols, this is to symbolise civil mandarins and military mandarins, what is also interesting is that when Ngô Đình Diệm became Shangshu of the Ministry of Personnel, which traditionally served as the human resources department of the civil mandarins, the Ministry of War was also merged into it, which served as the human resources department for military mandarins. My guess is that this symbolism is kind of a reference to his time as the Shangshu of the Ministry of Personnel. Don't even get me started on the military symbols, badges, and insignias of the Nguyễn Dynasty period under French rule, those aren't documented in works like the above at all. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 06:51, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Flag of the 9th Division

Current file

I'm going to request someone to make a new flag of the division, because the current image is not right. 源義信 (talk) 22:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

See Hội Ngộ Sư Đoàn 9 Bộ Binh Quân Lực Việt Nam Cộng Hòa. To be honest, I don't know who made this bicolor flag, but the first time I saw it I doubted it, it was the same colour design as the VietCong flag! I think it is possible that the flag was made by veterans after 1975. This can be found in some event photographs, others, however, use the normal (same as the flags of other divisions) design. 源義信 (talk) 22:29, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

File:全國政協副主席、民盟中央常務副主席、清華大學副校長 王光謙 (cropped).jpg

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And also:

• File:民盟中央副主席張道宏 (cropped).jpg
• File:民盟中央副主席謝經榮 (cropped).jpg
• File:民盟中央副主席張道宏.jpg
• File:全國政協副主席、民盟中央常務副主席、清華大學副校長 王光謙.jpg
• File:民盟中央副主席謝經榮.jpg
• File:2023年5月23日 【大道薪传】中国的民主党派：民盟篇.webm

Yours sincerely, Syunsyunminmin (talk) 13:40, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the rename

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Thanks for the correction, perhaps you should apply to become a file mover. I used Google Lens to get the name and while Google Lens is correct 98% (ninety-eight percent) of the time it still occasionally fails. I've actually been looking for more files from this district, it kind debunks the myth that Classical Chinese completely disappeared in the French protectorate of Tonkin early in the occupation (something which many Vietnamese and Western historians claim), rather it's kind of evidence showing that they usually focus only on sources to confirm their perspective. Though I actually have yet to see that documents issues by local mandarins in the French protectorate of Tonkin, only some revenue documents from Nam Định on eBay. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 14:42, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

I am thinking of applying to become a file mover. And speaking of renaming, would you be willing to rename the photos of Nam-Giao ceremony 1927 by adding numbers to the front of them? For example, this photo is numbered PP0014628 on the website of the Musée du Quai Branly, so rename it as PP0014628 Đại lễ Năm Giao năm 1927, các huyện của tỉnh Thuận Hoá dựng cổng hoa nhà rạp đặt hương án ở ven con đường lên đàn Nam Giao, chờ cung nghinh Thánh giá của Thiên tử nước Đại Nam 03.jpg. The latter part of the title can either be changed or left unchanged. This will facilitate future searches, as I intend to upload more of the museum's collections.

源義信 (talk) 15:46, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

You can organise them as you which, the main and only reason file titles exist is to make them easier to find. A file named "Image 81Y727273838-83950B5059171045004" isn't easy to find, but a name that organises it in a way that makes it easier to find in a series helps a lot.
Unrelated to what you wrote, but I'm surprised with how those Nguyễn Dynasty revenue documents on eBay came within a month and were all sold out in a short amount of time too. These files all contained precious information on the transfer of land rights and how interpersonal trade was done during this period and they came and went in an extremely short period of time. The whole reason I became a fanatic Wikimedian was because many years ago I remember there being a large number of websites on a topic, then when I wanted to look up that information again it was all gone. This actually makes me wonder how many precious documents once appeared on eBay that are now fully inaccessible... -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 18:07, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I'm currently drafting an article about the Viceroy of Tonkin (officially the "imperial commissioner delegated by the Emperor"), and I'm still missing an image of Trần Lưu Huệ (陳劉慧), you seem to be really good at finding photographs of mandarins, so if you ever happen to come across him then feel free to leave me a message. — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 18:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Donald Trung,

You may have noticed that I have uploaded an article by Mr Trần Lưu Tuệ and an illustration of him (see: Category:Trần Lưu Tuệ, Huệ/惠 was once his name, but he eventually changed it to Tuệ/慧). In fact, I tried to find a photograph or a painting of him but could not find one.

I was working on information and documents of Mr Hoàng Thuỵ Chi (黃瑞芝) when you left me your message. Coincidentally, I happened to see a picture of a possible portrait of Mr. Trần Lưu Tuệ on a page (Image) about Mr. Chi that I had never found before!

Unfortunately, this page does not provide any more information about this picture. It is possible that this is actually a portrait of another person (as is often the case). But this is a breakthrough and I'd like to thank you for asking me about it, otherwise I might never have noticed it. I hope this helps. 源義信 (talk) 18:53, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Plus, the owner of this blog seems to be a grandson of Mr. Hoàng Thuỵ Chi (黃瑞芝) and it provides several valuable photographs of Mr. Chi. The blogger's grandmother Mrs. Nguyễn Thị Hân, is Mr. Trần Lưu Tuệ's granddaughter (see: [4]). When I am available, I will try to compare this portrait of Mr. Trần Lưu Tuệ with identified portraits of other mandarins. 源義信 (talk) 18:58, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@Donald Trung: By the way, why is this (File:Hình dấu Quốc gia tin bảo - Hình dấu Ngự tiền chi bảo (之御寳前) - Hình dấu Văn lý mật sát - Trung tâm Lưu trữ quốc gia I.png) named as "之御寳前", isn't it "御前之寳"? 源義信 (talk) 20:19, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

I forgot to proofread it before publishing. I used Google Lens and didn't correct the name. On my mobile device it's actually quite difficult to request a file rename because the interface wasn't made with mobile users in mind, feel free to request a rename. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 20:32, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Museum of the Republic of Vietnam

URL: https://www.facebook.com/museumrvn/photos

I noticed the Facebook page of a museum, which has posted many photos of its collection (some are obviously collected online though), as well as photos of events at the museum (such as the visit of General Le Minh Dao and General Tran Van Chon to the museum).

Even more fascinating is the collection of authentic military flags and insignia, such as the early design of the 18th Division flag and the flag of the 23rd Division (I was curious as to why this flag was different from the others). These can be used as a reference when making images of them for the Commons.

There are also some documents that can be uploaded to the Commons: Document of the State of Vietnam, ID card of General Nguyen Ngoc Loan and General Cao Van Vien. 源義信 (talk) 08:52, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

This blog is also interesting: http://rvnhs.blogspot.com/ 源義信 (talk) 07:31, 29 May 2023 (UTC)