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Wrong categorizationEdit

Hi there. I saw -but not read- your talk about wrong categorization around "letters". Some "special" letters used by Latin Alphabet using languages, like my mother tongue, Turkish may be confusing. For example we have a political party called "İYİ" which means "good" in Turkish but its symbol with those letters also is an ancient Turkish sign. It has nothing -or much- to do with the letter "I" because it is not I, it is İ. At the "Revision history of File:Meral Akşener İYİ Party (cropped)1.jpg" you will see how I have been wrongly reverted. Frankly I am bored of trying to communicate with everybody, I hope you are a good listener. Bye. --E4024 (talk) 20:45, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

@E4024: I understand that the characters are alphabetically distinct, but as they are closely related to each other typographically, I think it is okay to categorise files showing letter combinations including letters derived from basic Latin letters into categories for basic Latin letter combinations, if there aren't enough files to create a special category—as I did in your case—, which in turn should be a subcategory of the basic Latin letter combination category. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:58, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Last warningEdit

I am not one to value civility over everything else in a project such as this, but if you’re going to be brusque and uncouth you better be right. I would have accepted this stunt if you were right, but you sure as heck are not: the H+D ligature is as much of a Latin letter as D+E, Ǝ+R, and others you can find at Category:Unencoded Latin letters. So, last warning: Next time you you wanna behave in this obnoxious, uncollegial manner, you better be right: Because if you are right, I will even thank your reversion of my error (as I did before several times), but if you’re wrong and you decide to miscorrect me by means of the revert button instead of the talk page, I’ll have to ask you be blocked for edit warring. -- Tuválkin 00:02, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Definition of “letter” by Oxford: “a character representing one or more of the sounds used in speech; any of the symbols of an alphabet”. Neither does the ligature represent speech sounds, nor does it have a place in an alphabet. It's just an abstract technical symbol meaning “double coupling hydrant” independent from the used language and wording; cf. Category:Ruble Transnistrian sign, which is a symbol representing a currency, and while it derives from letters, itself is not. In the same way all other currency signs, some mathematical characters, and other letterlike symbols are NOT letters. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 08:47, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
P. S. I don't think the DE ligature should count as an “unencoded Latin letter” since it's a stylistic ligature. Ǝ+R is a letter in the Unifon alphabet, so it should stay. And another example: Would you really treat ☧ as a letter? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:13, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Looks like you can discuss matters, after all. Try to do that (point-to-point, in the relevant cat or file talk pages) instead of just playing with the revert button. -- Tuválkin 01:53, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
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