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Hi, I've sent you an e-mail. As for some strange reasons my mails often are being marked as junk I'd be happy if you could briefly confirm that you've received it. Thank you very much in advance! --Code (talk) 07:23, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks @Code:, I have received and responded it. No junk problems this time, but thanks for checking. Effeietsanders (talk) 10:24, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

WLM in EsperantujoEdit

Hi! I'm interested in run a edition of WLM in Esperantujo. I even already created Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2017 in Esperantujo and added Esperantujo to the Likely to participate countries. I would like to received more help about how to organize the contest. --Sahaquiel - Hast du eine Frage?   07:26, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sahaquiel,
Thanks for your interest! At this point, the competition is not designed to handle participation on non-geographical criteria. The lists of monuments are typically accorded by some kind of official definition or status. It sounds like you're more interested however in recording the mentions (even street name signs?) and bits of heritage of a theme - in this case, the Esperanto language. While definitely worth while organizing, I'm a little uncertain that this would fall under the scope of Wiki Loves Monuments still. @LilyOfTheWest: what do you think? Effeietsanders (talk) 09:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi! There is a list made by the Universal Esperanto Association about monuments and places related to Esperanto that we (meta:Esperanto kaj Libera Scio) are interested in document. Even streets (the street itself, not the only signs) named after Esperanto are of our interest, because is part of our history and heritage in that country/city. Like a monument, that mark that we were there and we have made something. There is no chance to run the contest as a part of WLM? Thanks for your help. --Sahaquiel - Hast du eine Frage?   17:09, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi Sahaquiel. As Effeietsanders said, WLM has been traditionally based on geographical boundaries. This has helped simplify parts of the process for organizing the contest: we accept official monuments list only (they're usually maintained by the corresponding local governments). It has also meant easier call for participation process. The biggest force for bringing users to participate in WLM in the past years has been the banner on Wikimedia sites shown to the traffic from the countries participating, in their language. If we go with Esperantujo as a WLM campaign, we need to answer the question: traffic from which countries should see the banner for your contest? This is especially important if there is overlap between other campaigns and your campaign. I will need some time to think about and discuss with others in the team whether we can support this. In the mean time, can you provide us with a link to the list made by UEA about monuments related to Esperanto? It would be great if the list contains: monument_id, monument name, monument location (geo-data, city, country, etc.). If the list doesn't have all this information, don't worry for now. Just share what you have. Thanks! --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 05:36, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi. About the banner, we can use a local banner in about the contest and a campaign target to user with the interface in Esperanto I think as a start point. We've (the user group) strong bonds with other international Esperanto groups as the World Esperanto Youth Organization. We can ask them to publish (web and magazines) about the contest too. Anyway, Esperantist could participate in both national and Esperanto versions of the contest, in fact, I think is a good way to engage Esperantist to participate in their local contests too. The list is available as a free to download book to member of the Universal Esperanto Association (UEA). I uploaded it to my GDrive for you. It list 1044 monuments related to Esperanto. There is no geodata or id, but country, city (and even neighbourhood or district sometimes), establishment date and kind of monument appear in the list.

I really appreciate your help on this guys! Sahaquiel - Hast du eine Frage?   21:27, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi! How are you? I was told that the International Team of WLM gathered in Italy to discuss. There is a resolution about the topic we're discussing here? Finally can we participate? --Sahaquiel - Hast du eine Frage?   17:04, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Hey Sahaquiel, thanks for the poke. We did meet, but focused on different questions. I brought up your question, and expect we'll have an answer in the next 2-3 weeks. Thanks for your patience! Effeietsanders (talk) 20:44, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Great! I really hope that we can join you in 2017! --Sahaquiel - Hast du eine Frage?   21:38, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the patience, Sahaquiel. We have discussed it a bit more, also given the broader context we're working in. The basis we're working from is 'national competitions' with lists (definitions) of monuments as set by official entities such as governments. This is, among others, to have a clear definition of what constitutes 'monuments' for participants, and to ensure that some subset of photos does not have an advantage over others because they can participate multiple times with the same photo. Exceptions may have to exist because of geopolitical sitations, but this is the basis we're working from.
At the same time, we do recognize the enthusiasm with which thematic competitions can stir, as may be the case with promoting Esperanto heritage. For 2017, we would be happy to experiment how we can stimulate that, while staying true to the core principles of the international competition. The way I envision for that for this year, would be to organize a special thematic prize for the Esperanto heritage. This would be limited to a well-defined subset of monuments that are already on the national heritage lists of participating countries. The photos could qualify for the regular national competition of the country where the monument is located, but could at the same time compete for the thematic prize you would organize.
On your end, this would require you to identify which monuments on the national lists would fall under the scope of your theme, and you would have to find ways to reach your potential audience (which you are uniquely qualified for). In that sense, this is an excellent theme to experiment with this approach, and evaluate whether this would work after this year. For the rest, you would of course also have to set up the usual infrastructure of a competition (prizes, web pages and jury), and we will have to find a way to identify the photos that participate in your thematic competition (presumably through bots that recognize the identifiers of the monuments on your list).
Is this something that could potentially work for you for 2017? Effeietsanders (talk) 12:34, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Bay Area WikiSalon photosEdit

Hi - I noticed that you moved a number of photos I took at the Bay Area WikiSalon (BAWS) out of Category:Wikimedia office photographs and into Category:Bay Area WikiSalon. I'm fine with the former, which I don't think I added in the first place, but all of these photos were already in subcategories of the latter. So I've removed them from the top-level BAWS category, which was time-consuming as I did it one at a time, having accidentally removed the wrong category when using Cat-a-lot in the past. So if you remove the Wikimedia office category from any more of the BAWS photos, please don't also add the top-level BAWS category. Thanks! Funcrunch (talk) 13:42, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Hey Funcrunch,
Sure, thanks. I wasn't aware they were also in lower level categories of that particular one - I assumed they would have been caught by automated processes if that were the case. Sorry it took you time! Effeietsanders (talk) 13:54, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
No problem. I do like Cat-a-lot quite a bit for adding categories, but I'm nervous about using it for removing. I still use HotCat for both though! Funcrunch (talk) 13:57, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
We should have at least a mass-self revert solution for that kind of situations :) (which I actually thought already existed, but I can't surface it) Effeietsanders (talk) 13:59, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

WLM 2017 and FlickrEdit

Hi Lodewijk! I hope you are doing very well. I'm not sure if you knew that I'm currently working at Flickr and in years past I've been sad that we haven't been better able to participate with WLM. I wanted to see if we could do more coordinated efforts around WLM this year and get the Flickr community excited about participating. Are you currently one of the main points of contact for WLM international? If so, can we put together a time to talk or do a video call to discuss what might be possible in collaboration?


Almonroth (talk) 22:55, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Flickr Community team

Hey Almonroth,
Great to hear of you again! I think we should definitely talk, let me find out who would be the best person(s) for that. I'll get back to you soon. Effeietsanders (talk) 08:42, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Fantastic! I look forward to it. Almonroth (talk) 16:17, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

File moverEdit

Hey Effeietsanders,

Ik heb je zojuist de file mover flag gegeven. Voorkomt dubbel werk. Veel plezier ermee. Natuur12 (talk) 20:57, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

@Natuur12: Thanks, maakt het inderdaad een stuk eenvoudiger. Ik heb op User:Effeietsanders/Scratchpad een aantal links klaargezet om te verplaatsen, en dat lijkt inderdaad te werken. Ik zie alleen dat eigenlijk 'move and replace' de voorkeur heeft - maar dat zou flink meer tijd kosten (Die links zijn niet vooraf te genereren zoals deze). Gebeurt dat vervangen van het gebruik van de afbeelding ook botmatig als je 'normaal' verplaatst? Ik heb de indruk dat de meeste afbeeldingen niet heel veelvuldig worden gebruikt. Effeietsanders (talk) 15:58, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi, ik zou het niet weten of de bot ook bij een handmatige verplaatsing langskomt. In ieder geval gaat er niks kaduk omdat de redirects hun werk nog gewoon doen dus als er eens eentje tussen zit die niet verplaats wordt voorzie ik geen al te grote problemen. Natuur12 (talk) 20:08, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Kern van probleemEdit

Misschien moet je ook eens die dame aanspreken, die verantwoordelijk is voor het vals en verkeerd categoriseren van afbeeldingen? Of mag dat hier niet? sommige personen begrijpen helaas enkel harde woorden, dat weet jij ook wel. Op NL: had die persoon voor de creatie van zulke onzin al lang een waarschuwing ontvangen.--Carolus (talk) 14:03, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

@Carolus: Het verschil is dat de 'dame' constructief blijft, en jij helaas overkomt alsof je dat bepaald niet bent. Ik ben bang dat je op deze manier vooral hard richting een blokkade aan het varen bent. Het gaat dan vooral om de vorm, en niet om de inhoud van je argumenten. Ik heb het vermoeden dat een taalbarrière daarbij een rol speelt, en vandaar mijn suggestie voor een derde persoon. Maar als je bewust bezig bent met 'harde woorden', is mijn vermoeden misschien onjuist - en dan zou een blokkade wellicht gewoon terecht zijn. Effeietsanders (talk) 14:06, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Harde Woorden? die gebruik ik nog niet eens. Ik speel op de bal, niet op de persoon. Die dame is overigens alles behalve contructief, maar draait gewoon haar eigen puntjes terug als een klein kind. Dat is de waarheid, en dat is niet hard.--Carolus (talk) 14:20, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
De term 'harde woorden' kwam van jouw eigen bijdrage hierboven. De toon die je gebruikt, is echter wel nogal onprettig, zo spreek je ook hier van 'als een klein kind'. Dat is wat mij betreft wel degelijk 'op de man' en niet op de bal. Effeietsanders (talk) 14:28, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Als je iets terug draait zonder overleg, dan ben je een klein kind, logisch. Het kan zijn dat de toon onprettig is, maar dat ben ik hier al gewoon, zeker op NL: zoals vb RJB. Die gebruikt ongemeen harde taal, die een blok rechtvaardigd.--Carolus (talk) 14:37, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Monuments in the United States – Back for 2017!Edit

 This user participated in Wiki Loves Monuments 2016.

Want to show your participation in Wiki Loves Monuments 2017? Add {{User Wiki Loves Monuments 2017}} to your userpage!

Hi there! My name is Kevin, one of the organizers of Wiki Loves Monuments in the United States. Last year, you contributed to our 2016 event. It was a great success thanks to you and many others, with over 1,700 people contributing over 11,000 great photos of cultural and historic sites from all over the United States. Over 1,000 of these photos now help illustrate Wikipedia articles, making our open knowledge about United States history and heritage all the better.

I'm pleased to say that we're back this year with Wiki Loves Monuments 2017 in the United States, and I'd like to welcome you to participate once again in the event. Check out our updated event page for more information, including updated tips, lists, and prizes. Like last year, you'll be able to upload your new photos of any registered historical site in the United States through the end of September (even if the photos were taken before this month).

Once again, thank you for participating in Wiki Loves Monuments 2016, and we hope to see you in this year's event! If you'd like to respond to this message directly, please do so on my talk page. ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 08:05, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

@Kevin Payravi: I'll see what I can do by the end of the month ;) Effeietsanders (talk) 08:09, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Monuments 2017 is weer begonnen!Edit

Beste Effeietsanders,

Wiki Loves Monuments 2017 is vorige week begonnen! Aan deze fotowedstrijd nemen dit jaar 54 landen deel, waaronder bijvoorbeeld Nederland, Groot Brittannië, Thailand, Rusland, Oekraïne, maar ook de eilanden Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao, Saba, Sint Eustatius en Sint Maarten in de Nederlandse Caribean. Je wordt dus van harte uitgenodigd om te kijken tussen de deelnemende landen of jouw vakantieland er ook bij zit dit jaar en je foto's uit die landen ook te delen!

Net als voorgaande jaren hebben we prijzen voor de mooiste foto en de meeste foto's en een keus gemaakt voor een speciale categorie. Heb jij een foto gemaakt van een monument waarvan voor 1 september 2017 nog geen afbeelding op Wikimedia Commons bestond? Dan doet de afbeelding mee in de speciale categorie! Heeft een monument nog geen foto in de monumentenlijst op Wikipedia, dan is het aannemelijk dat we er nog geen foto van hadden. Om het zoeken naar monumenten zonder afbeelding wat makkelijker te maken, kun je op Wikipedia lijsten en een kaart van Nederland vinden.

Tot slot nodigen we je nog van harte uit om volgende week met ons op pad te gaan. Op zaterdag 16 september wandelen we tijdens een Wiki Takes rond in Hoorn: op zondag 17 september doen we hetzelfde in Leiden. Onder ervaren gidsen wandelen we langs monumenten in de stad en nemen we ruimschoots de tijd om de monumenten goed op de foto te zetten. Aanmelden verplicht en plaatsen gelimiteerd!
Tot en met 30 september heb je de tijd om je foto's up te loaden: de top 10 gaat door naar de internationale wedstrijd, waar de hoofdprijs de nieuwste Canon EOS 5D camera is!

Veel succes gewenst,
het Nederlandse Wiki Loves Monuments team 17:42, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Let's make Commons Conference a realityEdit

Hello Lodewijk,

I'm writing you as one of the most active Commons users and WLM organizers. Since a while now, the idea of a dedicated Commons conference has been floating around. But since the last Wikimania concrete steps have been taken to actually make it happen next year. If you're interested in participation or maybe willing to help organize the first ever Commons Conference, I invite you to check out the project page and add your ideas; or just show your support for the idea, by signing up.


--MB-one (talk) 20:41, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Press mentions ItalyEdit

Hi Effeietsanders. About the press mentions for Italy: the 5 link are included on the other page. I think that so the list on Commons is incomplete and a little bit redundant. What do you think? --Cristian Cenci (WMIT) 15:02, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Cristian,
The list on your wiki is great, but hiding it behind a link would reduce the visibility for other teams - which would be a pity! Also, for archive purposes I like it when a complete list is eventually on commons, but that is a matter of making a copy by the end. Effeietsanders (talk) 15:07, 13 September 2017 (UTC)


Hi I was just wondering what your scratch page means! Muon (talk) 06:34, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

@Muon: That was to do a sanity check if most wlm related uploads were actually getting the template and going through the channels we would want them to go through. I was unable to definitively identify problems. Effeietsanders (talk) 22:31, 24 September 2017 (UTC)


Hoi MultichillEffeietsanders, ik zit even te zoeken wat je thuiswiki is momenteel, daarom even hier. Je was een half jaar geleden nogal tegen het verzoek om Wikinieuws te heropenen, wat vooral te danken was aan het feit dat er persberichten op waren gezet. Ik wil je even melden dat die na een unanieme stemronde niet meer toegestaan zijn en ze vannacht allemaal zijn verwijderd. Ik wil je dit even speciaal melden zodat je het weet. Anders blijft dat misschien lange tijd je beeld van het project. Met vriendelijke groet, Ymnes (talk) 15:11, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

@Ymnes: Hoi. Ik weet niet hoe je mij met Multichill verwart ;) Maargoed, bedankt voor de update. ik ben benieuwd welke kant wn opgroeit. Effeietsanders (talk) 15:50, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
Sorry voor onjuiste naam Effeietsanders. Dat was een beetje slordig, want ik had een vergelijkbaar bericht aan Multichill die ik aan jou heb herschreven. Jullie beide waren toen tegen op Meta. We zullen zien inderdaad waar het project naartoe gaat. Door deze persberichtenstemming zijn we waarschijnlijk wel Huhbakker kwijtgeraakt, want sinds de discussie begon heeft hij zich teruggetrokken (kan overigens nog steeds toeval zijn). Maar we liepen steeds weer tegen weerstand op tegen de het gebruik van persberichten, ook als we het uitlegden. Hopelijk blijft er zo makkelijker een positief beeld over het project over. Ymnes (talk) 15:57, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

uploaded before septEdit

Thank you for the information. He/She uploaded them some days before, so, it is not a problem with the time offset. Do you recomend us to remove the template from these articles of simple not taking them in account for the contest? --Millars (talk) 16:48, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

I would suggest removing them from the pages if possible - it clears any doubt and expectations (and has the helpful side effect to synchronize the various counters a bit better :) ) Effeietsanders (talk) 16:49, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
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