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Hi, I just saw you created Data:St_Georges_Terrace.map, thanks for testing it out! While I think it would be awesome to use .map pages for all sorts of things, I don't think we should put streets and other geographical objects there because they are already available to us via the "geoline" and "geoshape" service in Kartographer - straight from the OSM database. I just added the wikidata id to the St Georges Terrace in OSM, so the map on the right should start working within 24 hours. I also wrote this guide on how to add Wikidata IDs to OSM if they are missing. Lastly, I think the best use of the .map is to add non-OSM style data, such as suspect attack positions from the Ukrainian war of 2014, or the Endangered habitat for Plethodon neomexicanus. Lastly, please make sure the data is CC0 (OSM is not), and specify the source of the data. Thanks! --Yurik (talk) 09:47, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Source added; and replied at w:WT:USRD - Evad37 [talk] 22:58, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Evad, sorry didn't see your comment before moving it to Data:Sandbox/Evad37/St Georges Terrace.map. I think we should move it to some more appropriate name - all pages so far were prefixed by their origin, e.g. Data:Naturalearthdata.com/US states.map. Should we prefix it with "self/", or "own"? In any case, do we want to keep your page in Data, if you can get it via the Q7593251 id? (the data has already made it to our servers, once the cache expires, it will show up automatically). It would be awesome if you made the lines for the historical highways that are not in OSM - those might make a much better demo. Again, thanks for doing this! --Yurik (talk) 04:28, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
@Yurik: I can see the line showing up in the map at the right here, but it's only highlighting the part of the road, between Elder Street and William Street. The remaining section between William Street and Victoria Avenue should also be included. Any ideas why this happened / how to fix it? Having roads chopped up into arbitrary sections which need to be individually linked to Wikidata would be really unappealing, especially for long roads like Great Eastern Highway or Great Northern Highway. With regards to naming, either "Self/" or "Own/" would seem an appropriate choice. Once the OSM geoline stuff gets sorted out, I guess my Data: page could be deleted (but until then I'd like to hang on to it − where it is at the moment, in Sandbox/, is fine). - Evad37 [talk] 09:07, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Evad, heh, took it long enough :(. I hope it will get shorter soon. As for the data - it seems I edited it incorrectly. I edited this "way" object in OSM because that's what the search found, but I should have looked closer - I only tagged one portion of the road, and only one side. I looked, and it seems there is no "route relation" (see also how to map) that joins multiple segments of that road, nor is there a route master relation that joins both directions. My guess is that we would need to create them, remove the wikidata and wikipedia tags on the way and add them to the relations. Also, I am not sure if we currently can handle the wikidata tag on the "master" relation, but we can process the regular relation tags, so we probably should add wikipedia/wikidata tags to both (each way) directions. Which means my initial OSM editing guide needs to be expanded to explain how to find relations more easily, and give links to OSM editing. Sadly, roads are not as straightforward at times as one would hope. --Yurik (talk) 18:53, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Evad, apparently, editing relations are not really supported from the web based (ID) editor, but JOSM, the primary editor for OSMers, has very extensive support. Here's the video of how to work with the road relations. Let me know if you run into any problems. Btw, you can now use your Wiki account to log in into OSM! (see my guide link above). --Yurik (talk) 19:03, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Evad, ah! and another good news - the Potlatch 2, the Flash-based in browser editor (click Edit's drop down button), also supports relations, but doesn't have road relation presets, so you would have to set those tags by hand. Use ctrl+click to select all the needed ways (probably one way only), and add them to a new relation, and add all the tags described in the wiki for a route relation. --Yurik (talk) 19:08, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

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