User talk:Fry1989/Archive 10

Latest comment: 3 years ago by B.mertlik in topic Coats of arms of the U.S. States


"Second Spanish Republic files"

Ciao, Fry

please can you help me to save this svg files:

>>> In my opinion there are no valid reasons for their deletion.

Thank you, ciao, (FDRMRZUSA, talk) 19:00, 26 November 2019 (UTC+1).


Australian speed signs

Would it be possible you uploaded the 5 and 8 kmh speed signs for Australia? They are both non-standard units, but are commonly used in parking lots --SlitherioFan2016 (talk) 02:52, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

@SlitherioFan2016: , I will upload them shortly. Fry1989 eh? 16:00, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


Copy

Hy can you please nominate this File:Flag map of Pakistan.svg for deletion because it is a copy of you're File:Flag map of Pakistan.svg I believe it should be deleted. Ytpks896 (talk) 10:01, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

They appear to be the same file. Fry1989 eh? 15:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


Thank you

Nice vectors, keep them coming! :) --Palosirkka (talk) 13:54, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


New York State Flag

Hi I was wondering if you would be able to update the New York State Flag. The state senate just voted to add the words "e pluribus unum" underneath "Excelsior", a change that legally goes into effect on November 30th 2020 (https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/STL/70). The file that needs updating is the vector file: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_New_York.svg

There is currently a png file on the "Coat of arms of New York" page that is what the new flag looks like: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coat_of_arms_of_New_York#/media/File:Flag_of_New_York_(Updated).png Thanks Worldwidewebb77 (talk) 20:00, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

I am sorry but that is beyond my abilities. Fry1989 eh? 22:01, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok thank you for the quick responseWorldwidewebb77 (talk) 18:31, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


PR Macedonia Flag (1944-1946) GlobalReplace

Hello,

You renamed File:Flag of Macedonia (1944–1946).svg to File:Flag of North Macedonia (1944–1946).svg and replaced it using GlobalReplace, but this flag is not a flag of the state North Macedonia but the Yugoslav entity, the People's Republic of Macedonia, therefore it cannot be called as such. Please back such changes. Идеологист (talk) 18:40, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

I am aware that it is the flag of the Yugoslav entity and that North Macedonia did not become independent until 1991, but for the purposes of Commons it is best to maintain file name uniformity. Fry1989 eh? 18:54, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi, you renamed the flag of Socialist Republic of Macedonia as flag of North Macedonia? Why? The historical full name of Macedonia beteween 1944 and 1946 was "Socialist Republic of Macedonia". It's plausible only "Macedonia" but why "North"? --Skyfall (talk) 19:38, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
So, in order "maintain file name uniformity " this file: Roman Empire has to be renamed "Flag of Italy"? --Skyfall (talk) 19:42, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
That is utter nonsense. The Roman Empire and the current country of Italy were never the same entity. The entity and territorial integrity of what is now called "North Macedonia" and until this month just "Macedonia" has always been the same since 1944. Secondly, Macedonia/North Macedonia has since 1991 been the same country. Look at Germany, there was the 3rd Reich, what was West Germany from 1950s-1989, and now the united Germany. That is not reflected in the file names. We have simply File:Flag of Germany.svg and File:Flag of Germany (1935–1945).svg, and there are other examples. Accusing me of vandalism because you do not agree, when it is very clear that my intention is not to vandalize, is actually quite offensive to me. Fry1989 eh? 20:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Or look at your example of Italy. File:Flag of Italy (1861–1946).svg and File:Flag of Italy.svg, not "Flag of the Kingdom of Italy" and "Flag of the Republic of Italy". Fry1989 eh? 21:08, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
@Идеологист and Skyfall: I agree that the rename undertaken was ill-advised, so it would be worthwhile if you could suggest a name that reflects the political reality of the time. Happy for that discussion to take place on either file talk pages of the respective images, or Com:VP. Please feel ping me on such a discussion.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:02, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
What about the flag of the Kigndom of France before the revolution? Or the flag of Congo and the flag of Zaire? It's exactly the same country. --Skyfall (talk) 23:51, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Look below. I have given more examples. Fry1989 eh? 23:58, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
@Идеологист and Skyfall: This probably should be a community discussion at Com:VP where the naming issues for flags can be discussed holistically. There are templates at the wikis that rely on a standard naming process, though these examples highlight issues with those who believe that naming patterns override accuracy is problematic. IMO this discussion should have taken place prior to the first renames.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:43, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Addendum, this template naming mattered quite significantly in the early days, however, now having LUA and with Wikidata now being the repository for flag data, and the ability to set criteria, that reliance on templating should be discarded, and allow for more accurate naming without restriction.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:47, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


SAVE FLAGS AND COATS OF ARMS!!!

Ciao, it's possible blocked this user-vandal: "Tio dari"? See for example "File history" of File:Flag of Bolivia (state).svg and File:Coat of arms of Bolivia.svg. This user (Tio dari) revert old and obsolete versions of various flags and coats of arms from 22 January 2019 to present day: see user's contribs (verify please).

I apologize but I don't know system administrators.

Thank you and ciao!!

(User_talk:FDRMRZUSA).


NEW road sign in Australia-NSW

Hello again. Two suburbs of Sydney, Manly and Liverpool, have introduced designated 30 km/h areas which enclose school zones, which result in a very unusual school zone speed sign. It is essentially a 30 km/h variant of R4-230, but with the fluoro-orange "School Zone" label from R4-235, if not brighter. Essentially a 30 km/h "cross" between R4-230 and R4-235? As this is a new sign I don't know what number it is, but I was wondering whether you could upload it anyway.

If you want, the school zone sign in question appears at the end of this video. --DL6443 08:43, 12 July 2020 (UTC)


File:Bandeira do Leal Senado.svg

Hello, can you made fixes for this image? The attitude of angels should be revised, both of them should kneeing to the Portuguese sheld, and their wings should be opening higher. Thanks.

Sources:

-- Great Brightstar (talk) 17:59, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

I am sorry but that is beyond my abilities. Fry1989 eh? 19:38, 26 August 2020 (UTC)


deletion of File:Finland road sign A22.2-2.svg

Hi, the image is currently in use on 3 pages on 2 projects. Please record these uses, as they will soon be destroyed after deletion of the image and need to be restored after upload of your new version. --Túrelio (talk) 18:52, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi. Yes, I do have the usages saved so that I can immediately put them back. Thank you. Fry1989 eh? 18:55, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Ok. It's gone. --Túrelio (talk) 19:38, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
@Túrelio: , the error is still showing. I tried using File:Test.svg and it does not show there, so there is something wrong with the servers and this particular file name. If you could please delete it one more time, I will upload it under a completely new file name. Fry1989 eh? 20:01, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Did you clear you cache? Though I don't remember what the "glitch" was, the current image looks absolutely perfect to me. --Túrelio (talk) 20:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
@Túrelio: , I cleared my cache, signed out and back in, deleted all my wiki-related cookies, and purged the file and related pages. The error is happening in my uploads subpage, and on User:Fry1989/Gallery/Road Signs/Finland and Road signs in Finland. It shows the left bar higher than it should be, compared to File:Finland road sign A22.2-1.svg. It does however show up correctly on the Finnish language projects where the file is used. Fry1989 eh? 20:12, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Ok. I've deleted it again. --Túrelio (talk) 20:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Most appreciated. It worked this time. Fry1989 eh? 20:20, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


Australian signs, again

Hello, I have found three more Australian signs that need uploading. They are (R4-236) High Pedestrian Activity Speed Limit Area, (R4-237) High Pedestrian Activity Speed Limit, and (R9-213) High Pedestrian Activity. Thanks --SlitherioFan2016 (talk) 04:17, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi. They are on my list, however it will probably be some time before I can upload them. Finland just changed most of their signs on June 1st, and I was also working on revisions for New Zealand. Fry1989 eh? 16:56, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


Chile

Hello, it's-a me again! Just want you to know that you are doing tremendous work with Singapore. Keep it up! But more importantly, take your time. I do not want be that kind of guy who loads your desk with a bunch of paperwork and then leaves, but I found a few government links which might make Chile worth re-visiting whenever you feel like it. I noticed that the current Chile road signs are shoddy vectors extracted from PDFs. I found the PDFs, and while the vectors contained therein are still as bad as ever, if you scroll past them you'll see mathematical construction sheets: [1]
The manual is split up into different chapters. In the provided link, you'll want to scroll to a chapter and click on a "road sign" with the text "Descargar capítulo" to download that chapter's PDF. The documents are in Spanish, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem as the mathematical construction sheets are the most relevant piece of information.
Also, Chile ditched the FHWA font a while back ago in favour of Ruta CL. I found another government link where you can download that font, which should be helpful. Let's just hope that the font is competently vectorized... VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 20:17, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

I have those already   But I greatly appreciate your effort to help. Thank you. Fry1989 eh? 20:25, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Well that's good. I still think that we (at some future date) should work away at those awful vectors. My SVG skills are ever so slightly better than what they used to be, so I think that I could do a few of them myself actually. —VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 20:32, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, Chile does need to be re-done. But as you can see, my list is so very long it is difficult to prioritize which countries should come first. If you want to take a try at it, you are more than welcome to. Fry1989 eh? 20:39, 5 June 2018 (UTC)


RSN flag

Hello, if you look at photos of RSN flags, you can see that the horizontal portion of the upper left red doesn't have as much space beside the crescent and moon as shown in your version.

I am aware that the 1967 specifies it at a 1x2 ratio, but the flags are actually at a 2x3 ratio, as seen from the the link below. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find a citation for the correct standard as no SAF or RSN website provides it. I have emailed them about the matter and await their reply, until then, I agree with your stand to revert my edit.

https://i.postimg.cc/ncrqvvHJ/RSN-Flag-Dimensions.png

Though the photo is slightly distorted due to the angle, it's very obviously not a 1:2 flag. Seloloving (talk) 00:52, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

I thank you for that source. But previous sources also show the flag in 1:2, including [2], [3], [4], [5], and this one which also shows the blue ensign in 1:2. However, this photo shows it in the same 2:3 ratio as the national flag. This suggests to me that the ratio may be optional, or depends on where/when the flag is being used. Further research may be helpful. Fry1989 eh? 17:09, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Hello. Thanks for linking your sources. I did some amateur measurements and actually, most of the RSN flags were actually 2:3, with the exception of the memorial photo. I suspect it may actually be stretched to allow the placement of the text, but I cannot be definite. Here's a link to my measurements on Inkscape. Seloloving (talk) 02:58, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the digital measurements. I also have a historical photo of the air force ensign in 1:2 from when it was first introduced, but since then it appears to always be in 2:3 like the national flag. So it may also be that 1:2 was the original dimensions but at some time since then it was changed to 2:3. I am not opposed to you changing the file, but would suggest changing the blue ensign as well to keep them consistent. I will do some more research in the future when I can. Fry1989 eh? 19:11, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
@Fry1989 Hello, I know this is a belated reply, my apologies for that. I emailed the Singapore Ministry of Defence nearly 5 months ago and have yet to hear from them. While I am aware that legally, the flags are mandated to be of a 1:2 ratio, I suspect that's a remnant of regulations for flags when Singapore was part of Malaysia, as the latter nation does use the 1:2 ratio for their national flag and ensigns. That said, it's also clear the flags in use today across the Singapore airforce and navy are of the 2:3 ratio, following the national flag of Singapore. Even the civil ensign is depicted as 2:3 here.
However, I am not exactly sure of the Wikipedia convention for flags in situations where the de jure regulation is not followed. As you are the creator of the SVG file (along with countless other imagery), I think you would be more well versed to advise in this unique circumstance. Seloloving (talk) 13:21, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
@Fry1989 Hello, I would just like inform you that I have reverted the flag back to a 2:3 ratio, based on a 1997 trademark application I found for the flag. While the image depicted there is not precisely a 2:3 ratio, I note that it's due to the image being stretched (see the stars, crescent and compass rose), so the modern flag is definitely not a 1:2 ratio. I thank you for reverting my initial edit due to original research, and hope you are satisfied that we now have a source for the actual dimensions of the flag. Seloloving (talk) 20:20, 8 June 2020 (UTC)


Border change of sign: Philippines road sign G1-1.svg

@Fry1989: I was contacting User:TagaSanPedroAko but he/she is not replying about the border change of this sign. Can you review it? Thanks! hueman1 (talk) 23:29, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

I see the change. Both seem acceptable to me, but I will try using Google Streetview and see which version is more common. Thank you. Fry1989 eh? 00:06, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
The older one is more common, and uses Arial Bold sometimes Clearview... I just don't get why are they using multiple typefaces. hueman1 (talk) 12:56, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
Doing some Google Streetviewing, the previous version with rounded corners does seem to be more common than with square corners. I do not know about the typefaces, so I will accept your input about that. Fry1989 eh? 17:57, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
In what region do you street view? hueman1 (talk) 00:32, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
I was looking at the capital Manila. Fry1989 eh? 17:59, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
We have a problem about that. Road signs in Metro Manila may differ from the ones in other places, this is because Metropolitan Manila Development Authority have road signs of their own. This slightly contradicts from the ones (Department of Public Works and Highways) we are recreating, which is by the way the original and the one with standards. --hueman1 (talk) 11:08, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
This causes some variation in Philippine road signs in Metro Manila, while in provinces the road signs are old and sometimes unmaintained. I feel bad about these signs, some are covered with moss, some are rusted and some are severely damaged. And some are just painted with paint (Some kind of household paint). --hueman1 (talk) 11:12, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
@HueMan1: I'm sorry if I haven't replied to you in my talk page (I only came back to upload other national road number signs). I agree to have the font harmonized in all Philippine road signs and use Clearview. For sign borders, I remain undecided, as signs with square corners, somehow like those used in the US guide signs, are in use in newer guide signs (white on green/blue/brown). --TagaSanPedroAkoTalk -> 04:27, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
@TagaSanPedroAko: Since you've started making old road signs of the Philippines, why don't we just make all versions then? Someone get my point? Thanks by the way. I'm always here to help. --hueman1 (talk) 09:02, 9 August 2018 (UTC)


I need your help

I created fictional Houthi flags but they are marked by a deletion request. I do not intend to make propaganda as these are fictional flags. Therefore I put the fictional flag template on these files. Again I do not offend anyone as they are made for satirical purposes. RainbowSilver2ndBackup (talk) 18:50, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

I will take a look. Fry1989 eh? 19:31, 9 February 2019 (UTC)


Another thing

Hello again Fry1989, can you make also a shield only version of Dominica's coat of arms and also remove the gradients of Dominica's coat of arms in the presidential standart and governor of dominica flag of (1965–1978) as you did with the flag of dominica of (1965–1978). -64.237.231.183 20:13, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


Colombia road signs review

Hi there, I've had a chance to go through the signs you so generously created. I noted my comments in my user_talk for your review. I didn't want to start editing a bunch of your images without first checking with you, so I only edited minor things which I thought made sense. If you're OK with the changes, let me know in that page if and which comments specifically and I'll be happy to save you the trouble of editing the images (except for the renames, as I don't have that privilege here). Once again, thanks for your work on this! It is highly appreciated! Have a great weekend! --Aardila (talk) 16:05, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, just wanted to ask the source for the changes to the old information signs (like this one, for example)? I'm looking at the official 2004 manual available at https://www.mintransporte.gov.co/Documentos/documentos_del_ministerio/Manuales/manuales_de_senalizacion_vial and the previous versions were correct. The metadata was also overwritten with different sign names which are not those in the official manual. --Aardila (talk) 13:49, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi @Aardila: . I apologise for my slow response, but my computer died and I've been without a new computer for the last 4 days. I have a new one now, so I should be back in business. Regarding the old information signs, I have the old version of the Manual and it has different measurements for those signs. So I was updating them to those specifications. Fry1989 eh? 19:37, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Sorry to hear about your computer. I'm not sure what version of the document you have, but when I look at Chapter 2 on the page I linked above, I see the old versions of the info signs are now different from what you're uploading (starting on page 68 in the document). I had also recently gone through them and updated the names and translation as per the 2004 manual (linked), but that info also seems to have been overwritten, so I was wondering which version of the manual you were using exactly for both the graphics and name updates? Can you post the link? Thanks in advance. --Aardila (talk) 22:22, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
@Aardila: , I can't seemto find the document online, but I could email it to you. Fry1989 eh? 23:58, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Also, I have found manuals for Bolivia and Peru. They are not high quality, so I'm not sure how well I can recreate the images, but I will make an attempt in the future. Fry1989 eh? 00:33, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Can't you upload it to a file sharing platform and publish the public link to the document here? I guess what I'm not understanding is how this source is more authoritative that the government site for the Ministry of Transport that I linked above that would warrant overwriting all files and metadata? Awesome job on getting sources for Bolivia & Peru! :) --Aardila (talk) 18:09, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
@Aardila: , I did not think of that. Great idea! I have uploaded it to Dropbox, you can view and download it here. There are two versions of the 2004 Manual. One version has all the signs together on the same document, which is the version that you have. The other is in three separate chapters for Preventivas, Reglamentarias, and Informativas. That version has construction sheets. Fry1989 eh? 18:47, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
@Aardila: , have you had a chance to look at the document? What are your thoughts? 19:50, 28 October 2017 (UTC)


Official working drawings for Irish road signs

Hi Fry! Of all the Wikimedia users that have dealt with road signs, I would confidently say that you are the single biggest contributor, in terms of diversity and quantity (in a good way). I understand that you are a busy guy with your own priorities and all that, but I have found something that might interest you: Official working drawings for Irish road signs. The link is an official website where you can browse the traffic signs and view most of their working drawings in a PDF format (very few in chapter 4, although pretty consistently for chapters 5 & 6). This might just make Ireland worth re-visiting some time in the future.

http://trafficsigns.ie/category/wd/

Cheers! - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 22:14, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

@VulpesVulpes42: , well hello!! What a lovely surprise. First let me thank you for the kind compliments. Secondly let me say this just tickles me pink because I've wanted to do Ireland properly for years but the 2010 manuals from DTTAS are all raster and don't have construction sheets, so I was limited in what I could do. A repository like this is exactly what I need. It is true I have a lot of work to do, I've got a dozen or more countries to work on (and I still have to finish SADC which is exhausting), but Ireland is going back up on the list for sure. Thank you so so much! If you ever come across any other repositories, don't forget to send them my way. :D Fry1989 eh? 00:16, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Will try to keep that in mind :)
Also (and pretty ironically), full-colour vector images are included in each and every working drawing, but they seem to be pretty low-quality, so I would try to ignore them and just stick to the actual diagram for reference. - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 07:07, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Oh, and in order to save you the hassle of hand-tracing letters and all that I should let you know that the fonts that are used on Irish traffic signs can be downloaded here:
http://www.cbrd.co.uk/fonts
VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 17:17, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


Alberta road signs

I am starting to work on Alberta road sign diagrams, as well as completing Philippine road sign diagrams (and creating diagrams for old ones), and here is a source for vector road sign drawings in Alberta: ftp://ftp.gov.ab.ca/transportation/Highway_Sign_Patterns . I have created some, but I'm not sure of the copyright status (the road signs are under Crown copyright), so if we want to upload them, contacting Alberta Transportation is a good idea. We have route signs already (which are obviously too simple), but for other road signs, that gives us the question. -TagaSanPedroAkoTalk -> 03:52, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

@TagaSanPedroAko: , hi. I am currently working on Singapore. I still need to finish the Vienna Convention (it is 90% done anyway) but got kinda bored so I needed to work on something different for a while. I have downloaded all of the Alberta and Ontario working drawings, and do plan to do them in the future as well. Most of them are textual or basic shapes and won't pass copyright, there are some that are more questionable though, like some of the animal signs. I will know better when I start to work on them, but that is some time away. Fry1989 eh? 15:28, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
@Fry1989: We may upload most signs because they are too simple in design, but we will take note that we cannot upload a few signs here, especially route markers. Route markers copyrighted by the Alberta government (e.g. Yellowhead Highway marker, Crowsnest Highway marker, etc.) are uploaded already in Wikipedia under fair use. We have route number signs already in Category:Alberta Highway shields, including versions from the 1970s, and Trans-Canada Highway markers for Highways 1 and 16 (white maple leaf on green background, with "Trans-Canada" and province name in caps, also green. Already in the public domain).--TagaSanPedroAkoTalk -> 04:38, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
I agree, there will be a few that can not be uploaded. But most are safe for Commons. Fry1989 eh? 17:29, 9 August 2018 (UTC)


Reverted to File:Flag of the Republic of Macedonia (1992–1995).svg

There was no North Macedonia in the years 1992-1995, so it is inaccurate to move the flag to that name. I believe consideration should be given to reviewing these renames for similar reasons, though

  • File:Flag of Macedonia (1944–1946).svg → File:Flag of North Macedonia (1944–1946).svg)
  • File:Flag of Macedonia (1946–1992).svg → File:Flag of North Macedonia (1946–1992).svg)

It is also problematic when you suggest and do a rename, then reject other requests to move it back. Generally it would be a consensus for such moves rather than a unilateral action.  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:58, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: , I have to strongly disagree about your statement "there was no North Macedonia 1992-1995". Yes there was, the Republic of Macedonia and the Republic of North Macedonia are the exact same country, the only difference is they changed the name of the country. They didn't change their constitutional structure, or their territory, and I've provided multiple examples above where countries have undergone more drastic changes than simply their name. Now, I renamed "Flag of the Republic of Macedonia (1992–1995).svg" to "Flag of North Macedonia (1992–1995).svg" prior to having read your response on my page, and for that I apologize. It was my presumption another unaware file mover had moved it by request of either Идеологист or Skyfall while I was momentarily away this evening, and I hope you will forgive me for that. But, I must reiterate my strongest disagreement, and I intend to provide more examples that my rename is a valid one. Fry1989 eh? 23:38, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
See these broad examples,
  • Afghanistan went from a kingdom to a republic to a democratic republic to an islamic state to an islamic republic. You will notice however all of its 20+ flags are named "Flag of Afghanistan (date–date)"
  • Albania went from a principality to a Kingdom to a Socialist Republic to now a Republic. You will notice the same with its many flags.
  • Egypt went from a Kingdom to a Republic to an Arab Republic. Its many flags start with the Kingdom follow this practice.
  • Greece went from a Kingdom to a Republic to Kingdom to a dictatorship then to Republic again. Its previous flags follow this practice.
  • Mozambique went from a communist state to republic, and its previous flags follow this practice.
Along with Italy and Germany which I previously mentioned, all of these countries have gone through both renames and wide constitutional changes in their history as well. But they follow a common thread. The Republic of Macedonia (1991-2019) and the Republic of North Macedonia (2019-present) are one and the same, all that happened was a simple addition of one word to the country's name. My rename followed this practice. It wasn't something I pulled out of thin air. Fry1989 eh? 23:58, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
I reverted a change that had taken place without consultation, and you overrode it without consultation, nor checking who had done it. I read that as you tried to enforce your PoV. That is not a good practice, whether an admin or a filemover undertook the action. That you undertook such moves not just once, but more than once, without discussion with the community or consideration for that discussion, especially around ethno-political matters which are known to be troublesome is problematic. Where something is known to be troublesome, one should always take it to the community for discussion rather than enforce one's opinion. There is simply no hurry for any of that action.

One of the criteria for renaming is accuracy, and for 1992 to 1995 there was no Republic of North Macedonia, there was no North Macedonia at all, that is a construct of 2019, whether there is any physical change of any border. To note that your examples seem to ignore that the "Republic of ..." component in this example was acting as a disambiguator so its presence is particular and required to separate these other ethno-political matters. Ultimately renames are community's decisions, not yours, the rename guidance is there, and your move would seem to be outside of that in a blackletter sense. That you think that you can dismiss the community's concerns are equally troublesome. I will reserve my thinking on this matter for the moment, the pages displaying these images don't need another edit episode without a more consensual decision-making process.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:39, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

The difference is entirely splitting hairs. It's like saying "There was no Bolivarian Venezuela until 1999". Whilst true in the most strictest interpretation, it is a differentiation that is not made between File:Flag of Venezuela.svg and historical versions such as File:Flag of Venezuela (1930–1954).svg. The majority of countries' flags follow this practice. I am entirely following set precedent on the matter. As for the "Republic..." qualifier, the current flag was renamed (not by me) to "Flag of North Macedonia", which follows near universal practice to exclude such qualifiers such as "Kingdom/Republic/State of....". I am not stepping outside of anything that isn't already common practice. Fry1989 eh? 01:00, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
The question isn't to exclude qualifiers such as "Kingdom/Republic/State of", but "North" in historical flags of a country with a different name, without the mentioned "North". --Skyfall (talk) 17:01, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Nothing of consequence changed. Their constitutional structure did not change, their territorial boundaries did not change, they didn't have a revolution, Macedonia (1991-2019) and Macedonia (2019-) is the same country! There are many other series of flags on Commons which follow this practice which I did not impose. My rename is an established practice and has been for a very long time. Fry1989 eh? 17:20, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

It is also the file:Flag of Yugoslavia (1918–1941).svg (and the article en:Flag of Yugoslavia), although 1918-1929 there was officially no Kingdom of Yugoslavia, but the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. However, no one has called for a new file by name "Flag of the Kingdom of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenians"? --Icon flag (talk) 02:21, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

I disagree with you. The current title is an anachronism. This flag have never been North Macedonia flag. This flag is not Burkina Faso flag. --Panam2014 (talk) 02:27, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
It should be remembered that Upper Volta changed its name and flag in the same year, even on the same day on 4 August 1984. This was not the case with the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes/Yugoslavia. In addition, the file:Flag of Upper Volta.svg is included in the article en:Flag of Burkina Faso, there is no article "Flag of Upper Volta". --Icon flag (talk) 13:56, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
@Icon flag: It is not a reason to do an anachronism. The previous Macedonia flags have never been North Macedonia flags. --Panam2014 (talk) 14:26, 27 February 2019 (UTC)


Limited height warning and regulatory road signs

Some of the categories for the signs you're moving related to limited height warnings for trucks combine warning and regulatory messages. That's why I had both types of categories on those images. ----DanTD (talk) 04:08, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

If you list some of the images you are refering to, I will review my edits. Fry1989 eh? 16:56, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Fair enough. Here's a partial list in random order;
Also, though I wonder why there is supposed to be a distinction between "Limited height" and "Overheight" warning signs, I like the "Limited height indication road signs" category you created. ----DanTD (talk) 17:43, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. In the case of "ALL TRUCKS RIGHT LANE", I believe that has more to do with restricting goods vehicles from using the overtaking lane than about height and that the two messages were simply combined on one panel, but I could be mistaken. As for overheight signs, they are a feedback sign to tell dumb drivers when their vehicle is too high as a last resort, whereas the height warning signs list the actual height itself and are based on the presumption that a driver already knows the height of their vehicle and will act accordingly. But if you think they should be in the same category, I will not object. Thank you for the indication category comment. Fry1989 eh? 20:29, 14 January 2020 (UTC)


South Sudan border

Hello.

Can you add the border of South Sudan which became independent in 2011 in:

As I have no knowledge about editing SVG files, I cannot update them myself.

Yours sincerely, Maphobbyist (talk) 22:03, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

There are a few that I can update. The PNG maps I will not be able to do however, sorry. Fry1989 eh? 15:56, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


Fix for File:Coat of arms of Tuvalu.svg

Hi, can you fix File:Coat of arms of Tuvalu.svg? The ribbon looks sightly larger while comparing to the official rendition available at File:Tuvalu Coat of Arms ("Crest").jpg, and you can also see it in this photo. Thanks. -- Great Brightstar (talk) 17:56, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

If you can fix that I hope you can apply the change to File:Flag of Tuvalu (state).svg as well. -- Great Brightstar (talk) 18:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Great Brightstar: , I will play around with it a little, but I am not sure I can do it satisfactorily. The bottom of the shield also appears to be more conical, and I can't fix that. Fry1989 eh? 16:54, 23 May 2020 (UTC)


Lusignan coat of arms

                                    Hi Fry1989 I noticed that the Lusignan family have coat of arms that are not of excellent quality and certainly less beautiful than those you are capable of doing. could you make them more beautiful, as they usually come to you?

  Of this you should, if you can of course, also make a version with the cardinal insignia for Hugues and Lancelot de Lusignan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.20.20.244 (talk) 14:55, 23 October 2020 (UTC) thank you

when you read this message could you let me know? I just need to write to me below that you have read it. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.20.20.244 (talk) 15:52, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.20.20.244 (talk)  
I have to politely decline for the time being, my skills are rather basic. But I notice you have also made this request of several other users with much better skills than myself, and I am certain they will be able to do this. Fry1989 eh? 18:38, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

thank you so much for your answer. I'm waiting for the others to answer me too. Could you ask them too?


Coats of arms of the U.S. States

Hi. I apologize in advance for my English. The article on the English Wikipedia „Armorial of the United States" says: "Eighteen states have officially adopted coats of arms." I wrote the relevant article on Czech wikipedia. I was inspired by an English article, but it is quite confused.

In the descriptions on the Commons, the official designations are only: Alabama, Connecticut, Delaware, Main, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, Rhode Island, North Dakota, Texas, Vermont, Wisconsin and West Virginia (13).

Missouri Coat of arms description: semi-official

Are the Coats of arms of Maryland, Mississippi, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Utah (5) official?

I assume that the Coats of arms of the states of Arizona, Colorado and New York have not been officially adopted, but are being used. B.mertlik (talk) 10:12, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

When I last edited the article, these are the states which I had listed as officially adopted a coat of arms. New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania did not have a direct source, but they do use the coat of arms separately from the state seal in an official manner, which is why they were included. Additions to the article since then to include states such as Arizona, I have no knowledge of being used in that way. Many other images are just illustrations of the state seal from the 1800s in the style of a coat of arms, but do not appear to reference actual laws or statutes declaring them as the state coat of arms. Fry1989 eh? 16:46, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, I have edited the Czech article according to your information. B.mertlik (talk) 23:13, 18 November 2020 (UTC)


Road Signs in Costa Rica

You know, Costa Rica has road signs, too. Perhaps you should make gallery for them. 96.230.30.209 19:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

I would like to, but I do not have any documentation for Costa Rica and photographs are difficult to find. But I will keep searching. Fry1989 eh? 18:36, 30 October 2020 (UTC)


Amasra 245.JPG

Hola. En esta imagen vemos un cartel que dice que se sacan fotos a los infractores y que se les multa (basado en la foto). Existe alguna categoría especial para lo de la cámara? Moltes gràcies anticipades. --E4024 (talk) 00:37, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

@E4024: , I have created a category for this type of sign: Category:Parking enforcement camera road signs. Fry1989 eh? 16:33, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
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