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File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - RMNH.MOL.120792 1 - Incisura lyttletonensis (Smith, 1894) - Scissurellidae - Mollusc shell.jpegEdit

 
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Moin moin! The photograph doesn't contain a specimen, any objection to delete this one? Cheers! --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 09:32, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Please don't delete, this type of image is valuable for taxonomists. Experts at Naturalis (Leiden, the Netherlands) have told me this when i uploaded seemingly "empty" images of plants and here molluscs because a change in the species name is shown. (The companion image File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - RMNH.MOL.120792 - Incisura lyttletonensis (Smith, 1894) - Scissurellidae - Mollusc shell.jpeg shows the minuscule specimens.) Thanks for keeping this image Hansmuller (talk) 21:21, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
Agreed, I left a message on the DR page. Thanks for your fast reply!   --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 02:00, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
File was fortunately not deleted, but moved (renamed) to File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - RMNH.MOL.120792 1 - Incisura lytteltonensis (Smith, 1894) - Scissurellidae - Mollusc shell.jpg Hansmuller (talk) 05:14, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Idem File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - RMNH.MOL.120792 - Incisura lyttletonensis (Smith, 1894) - Scissurellidae - Mollusc shell.jpeg to File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - RMNH.MOL.120792 - Incisura lytteltonensis (Smith, 1894) - Scissurellidae - Mollusc shell.jpg. Hansmuller (talk) 05:16, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

NIMHEdit

Hallo Hans, je merkt hier op dat de foto's in de betreffende categorie, in tegenstelling tot wat de categorienaam suggereert, geen foto's van onbekende locaties zijn; het is gewoon een kwestie van op de juiste link klikken. Ik vermoed dat dat voor de meeste afbeeldingen zal opgaan, maar het NIMH heeft het ook weleens bij het verkeerde eind. Zie daarvoor dit item. Zou het een reden kunnen zijn om de tekst bij te stellen? Groet, Apdency (talk) 20:16, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Beste Apdency, blijkbaar heb je het over NIMH militaire luchtfoto's, ik heb er maar een kopje boven gezet. Ik begrijp je punt niet, in de categorie die ik bedoelde zijn bij de upload gewoon de locaties die de link geeft vergeten, de locaties van die foto's zijn niet systematisch fout voor zover bekend. In het geval van Lunteren kun je corrigeren als de beschrijving fout is. Groeten, Hansmuller (talk) 22:59, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
(Dank voor dat kopje, ik was 'm simpelweg vergeten te plaatsen.) Nee, systematisch fout zijn ze niet. Ik dacht gewoon aan een wat meer genuanceerde aanduiding ('not necessarily' o.i.d.). Bij de plaatjes waarvan is vastgesteld dat de plaatsaanduiding fout is ga ik misschien nog gebruikmaken van het commentaarformulier bij de NIMH-pagina's. Apdency (talk) 20:20, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
@Apdency @DDJJ Dank voor je belangstelling, misschien kun je voor een systematische aanpak beter terecht bij de uploadster User:DDJJ (ik heb die categorie met "unknown locations" niet gemaakt want die partij luchtfoto's niet geüpload). Mooi dat foute locaties worden uitgewied, ook van belang voor de correctie van de beeldbank van NIMH. Bedankt, Hansmuller (talk) 11:55, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
@Apdency @DDJJ Inmiddels heb ik de foto's van 2018 met "unknown location" (Category:Aerial photographs from Nederlands Instituut voor Militaire Historie with unknown location) hun plaats volgens de databank van het NIMH meegegeven, in metadata en categorieën. (Er blijven drie luchtfoto's over met onbekende locatie.) Mochten er fouten in zitten, dan graag correctie. Bedankt (ook voor het opladen!) en vriendelijke groet, Hansmuller (talk) 06:09, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Catégorie des oiseauxEdit

bonjour, Les images de la Category:Histoire des oiseaux par François-Nicolas Martinet datent de 1790-1796, période où l'identification des oiseaux n'était pas précise et a été largement revue depuis. Il est donc difficile de trouver le nom latin de chaque oiseau, sauf pour un spécialiste. Je le ferai mais seulement pour les espèces très courantes et facilement identifiable, pour les autres il faudrait qu'un spécialiste ( que je ne suis pas) le fasse. Cordialement Robert Valette (talk) 13:36, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Long pageEdit

Are you still using List of registration numbers for the images in Category:Songbird specimens at Naturalis Biodiversity Center? It has 1,420,531 bytes of wiki-code, and should be split if still needed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:50, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Same with List of species and genera in Category:Mollusc specimens at Naturalis Biodiversity Center, 663,303 bytes. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:53, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing @Andy Mabbett Hi Andy, i hope you are well (we once met at a hackathon in Amsterdam where you asked me to do a Van Gogh translation for the New Art Gallery Walsall.) Yes, i think those lists are practical to have a ready handle (e.g., lookup table) on the donation of Naturalis for their curators without them having to do a query. I check species with the species list. (1,4 Mb isn't that large, is it? But then i was an astronomer.) Cheers, Hansmuller (talk) 10:20, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
PS1 Perhaps you know whether there is a policy for the administration/tracking of such large donations. I'll add a report in English for the Naturalis project.
PS2 Files are within the limit set by Commons:Maximum file size. Some biology buffs were active (up to 2017) trying to fit in the species on the species list in the taxonomy. Hansmuller (talk) 12:56, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Barnstar of Diligence
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A barnstar for you!Edit

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A barnstar for you!Edit

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Category:Photographs by Willem van de Poll in AtakaEdit

Re [1] et al.

Please stop removing images from this category. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:42, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

@Andy Dingley , Excuse me, i thought i did not remove images from this category, have a look. Photographs were put illogically in double categories, that was confusing, i hope i have remedied that. Please don't put files twice in redundant categories. So please not a picture both in say cat. Photographer in Ataka AND in cat. Ataka. Wikimedians don't want that. (I experienced that previously with 275000 pictures from Naturalis, for example in Category:Mollusca specimens at Naturalis Biodiversity Center). Thank you. Hansmuller (talk) 10:51, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
@Andy Dingley , O i'm sorry, you're right, i see i made some mistakes. Thanks! Hansmuller (talk) 11:02, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Naturalis uploadsEdit

Hi, I was looking at some of the images you uploaded from the Naturalis center. I edited an image (File:RMNH.MOL.156397 Cytora pallida cropped with scale bar.jpg) to include a scale bar based on the width of the QR given as 38 mm, and I just wanted to confirm with you whether the width of the card is 38 mm, or if it is in fact the QR code that's 38 mm. Cheers, —Mikemoral♪♫ 07:25, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

@Mikemoral: @Mikemoral Thank you for your excellent question which i should have answered clearly right at the start on Category:Mollusca at Naturalis from the Rijksmuseum van Natuurlijke Historie when uploading. I now have done so, with as example the photograph you probably used for extraction (?, because you mention the other image File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - RMNH.MOL.156397 1 - Cytora pallida Hutton - Liareidae - Mollusc shell.jpeg with has no shells). Please check if this explanation is clear enough. Thanks, Hansmuller (talk) 08:34, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
It seems I linked the wrong photo when I uploaded, which I didn't notice until now. Thanks for pointing it out, I'll fix that shortly. So if I'm understanding it correctly, it's the width of the black line above "Liareida... 40431" that measures 38 mm long? It would mean that my image scaling was wrong, since my scale makes it ~30 mm wide. —Mikemoral♪♫ 08:48, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
No i was told is was the width of the text string which was formatted in a standard way apparently, not the black line, i apologize. I'm sorry Naturalis didn't use a simple scale bar. Thanks for your interest! Hansmuller (talk) 08:52, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
@Mikemoral: @Mikemoral I'm emailing and asking a Naturalis mollusc collection expert to be sure. Hansmuller (talk) 08:56, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks for doing so. I must admit confusing me still, though I think that might just be the way the museum described it. Thanks for responding so quickly! I figured it would be helpful to include a small scale bar to give a better sense of width of shells, as well as crop out the taxonomic information.. —Mikemoral♪♫ 09:00, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
@Mikemoral: @Mikemoral I've corrected a numerical error on the page Category:Mollusca at Naturalis from the Rijksmuseum van Natuurlijke Historie. As long as the originals with taxonomy are conserved and linked, no information is lost and of course scale bars are extremely useful. (Just speculating: there still must be many tiny mollusc species which are undiscovered up to now.). I'll keep you posted (the definitive answer might take some time, my Naturalis mollusc expert(s) might be on holiday now.) Cheers, Hansmuller (talk) 09:25, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
There's almost certainly new molluscs to discover. Even still, we have to sort out molluscs we already know and make sure we have classified them correctly. Some like w:Notoplax rubiginosa got names that changed later on to reflect what zoologists know about the molluscs. Thanks again for your time. —Mikemoral♪♫ 09:48, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

File:Deelnemers verlaten het ‘Liefde faalt nooit!’-congres van Jehovah’s Getuigen, Utrecht, 2 augustus 2019 - 2.jpgEdit

 
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83.81.216.78 21:31, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

@User:Edoderoo @Edoderoo: Dag Edo, misschien vind je dit en de ondergenoemde foto een interessant geval. Groeten, Hansmuller (talk) 09:01, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
@User:Edoderoo Dank voor je snelle reactie, Hansmuller (talk) 09:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

File:Deelnemers verlaten het ‘Liefde faalt nooit!’-congres van Jehovah’s Getuigen, Utrecht, 2 augustus 2019 - 3.jpgEdit

 
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I doubt that the dutch AVG (which handles processing personal data) avoids people from making pictures in the public space. So no reason to delete these images. If we have to, we should delete *all* images every made in The Netherlands where there is one pixel of a person, and that can't be true. Edoderoo (talk) 09:16, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - RMNH.AVES.136791 1 - Acrocephalus orientalis (Temminck & Schlegel, 1847) - Sylviidae - bird skin specimen.jpegEdit

 
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Category:Frederick Hendrick van den HoveEdit

Hallo Hansmuller, je had die category aangemaakt zoals ik zopas vaststelde,. Ik ging ervan uit dat het, gezien de inscriptie: F.H. van Hove dus Category:Frederick Hendrik van Hove was, nu weet ik het ook niet meer. Heb je een oplossing? Thnks. Lotje (talk) 16:27, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

@Lotje Beste Lotje, leuk van je te horen. Ik zie nu ook dat ik in 2016 blijkbaar cat Frederick Hendrick (2x ck) van den Hove aanmaakte (straal vergeten), en jij cat Frederick Hendrik (1x ck, 1x k) van den Hove in 2019. De RKD (die volgde ik denkelijk) en Biografisch Portaal enzovoorts houden het op Frederick Hendrick, en noemen de Hendrik-variant NIET, maar het British Museum noemt hem wel Hendrik (Frederick Hendrik Van Hove, zonder den, doet Fred ook wel op zijn prenten, hij weet niet zeker hoe hij zelf heet)! Dus de Britten spellen Hendrik Nederlands en de Nederlanders Engels. (Terwijl Fred zelf zich steeds achter zijn initialen verschuilt.) Ik vind het natuurlijk prima als je een keuze maakt en het alternatief via een redirect naar je keuze leidt, terwijl die andere category zelf kan worden opgeruimd. Als ik het moet doen hoor ik het wel, bedankt! (Ik ben altijd heel braaf en volg de RKD.) Hansmuller (talk) 20:46, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Hallo Hansmuller, fijn dat je het allemaal even grondig doornam. Omdat je zo braaf bent :-) en duidelijk meer ervaring hebt met het RKD laat ik het initiatief aan jou over. thnks. Lotje (talk) 04:32, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@Lotje Ervaring mag niet tellen op wiki, moet juist opgedaan worden, bovendien heb je wel veel ervaring. Anders zou ik activiteiten gaan hamsteren, anderen verdringen en logischerwijs daarom in de limiet ook onmogelijk veel meer moeten doen (een exponentiële spiraal?). Van Hove is kwa opleiding een Vlaming, hoe spellen jullie hem? (Volgens de RKD zou jij dan misschien Lottje moeten heten?) Groeten, Hansmuller (talk) 06:28, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Grappig dat je dit op deze manier verwoordt. Ik wist niet dat men als Vlaming kan worden opgeleid in Nederland (interessante piste overigens). De beste manier om de correcte schrijfwijze van een naam te ontdekken is volgens mij: het lemma een duwtje in de rug geven en zien hoe gereageerd wordt. :-) Groetjes. Lotje (talk) 10:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@Lotje Nog even: Fred van den Hove werd in Antwerpen tot schilder opgeleid, en was daar lid van een gilde. Hansmuller (talk) 11:59, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

File:Rijksmuseum (25280609339).jpgEdit

Hallo Hansmuller, only me again... Heb ik het goed dat de beschrijving werd overgenomen van Wikipedia? Nogal onoverzichtelijk met al die referentielinks. Zou jij daar iets aan wijzigen? Thnks. Lotje (talk) 11:11, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

@Lotje Het ziet er naar uit dat Hanno die keer inderdaad een razende haast had... ja, ik zou daar iets aan doen. Hansmuller (talk) 11:57, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

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  • Deleted, although PD-Somalia applies. Nice courtesy to the artist by a moderator! Hansmuller (talk) 11:50, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

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  • Deleted, although it is a government logo and should be public domain in South-Africa, Hansmuller (talk) 12:00, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

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Ontbrekende toestemmingEdit

Dag Hansmuller, ik heb zojuist bij acht van door jou geüploade bestanden aangegeven dat de toestemming van de auteur (de kunstenaars die de schilderingen maakten etc.) ontbreekt. Waar sommigen een OTRS-toestemming voor de foto dragen, geldt die toestemming uiteraard niet het afgebeelde werk. Groet, Eissink (talk) 21:52, 4 October 2019 (UTC).

@Eissink In ieder geval heeft File:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Omslagdoek met portretten van Mozambikaanse regeringsleiders TMnr 6163-4-versie2.jpg bij de bron een CC-licentie zoals je kunt zien, dus die nominatie kun je nu al intrekken. Ik zal eens kijken hoe het zit met auteursrecht in Somaliland, in Nigeria is het ook anders (kortere termijnen). Kunstwerken in de openbare ruimte kunnen ook anders liggen. Vriendelijke groet, Hansmuller (talk) 10:05, 5 October 2019 (UTC) PS En dan is er nog Zuid-Afrika.
Ik denk niet dat het Tropenmuseum de rechten bezit op de gebruikte foto's, waarvan de fotografen ook niet worden genoemd. Eissink (talk) 11:55, 5 October 2019 (UTC).

(Aantekeningen: Copyright_rules_by_territory/Nigeria , idem Somalia , idem Somaliland , idem South Africa , Robben Island infow@robben-island.org.za , two-dimensional art in public spaces )

ik denk dat het tropenmuseum in het algemeen iets moet worden uitgelegd over auteursrechten. Als zij een voorwerp in hun bezit hebben, hebben ze niet automatisch het auteursrecht van een foto van dat voorwerp. In het geval van deze doek zijn er verschillende rechthebbenden:
    • De ontwerper van de doek. Daar rust auteursrecht op als de ontwerper nog leeft / minder dan 70 jaar geleden overleden is.
    • De maker van de foto's die op het doek zijn gebruikt
Dit geldt bijna overal. Het is jammer, maar we zien vaker dat dit niet goed gaat met uploads in het kader van GLAM. Ik begrijp dit niet, er zijn toch veel mensen bij WMNL die dit begeleiden en van de hoed en de rand weten? Met vriendelijke groet, Elly (talk) 17:07, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

@Ellywa en @Eissink Jullie punt is duidelijk. Maar merk op dat bijvoorbeeld het Rijksmuseum voor de Nachtwacht de fotograaf ook niet vermeldt, dat is niet gebruikelijk bij musea: File:La_ronda_de_noche,_por_Rembrandt_van_Rijn.jpg met bron RMUS en link, er staat net als bij de COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM in de bron alleen een licentie (daar publiek domein), geen vermelding van de fotograaf. Dan mogen we aannemen dat die is afgekocht of in dienst, of het nu om een schilderij gaat of een doek maakt niet uit, nietwaar? (Vraag maar verwijdering van Rembrandt aan!) Hansmuller (talk) 09:41, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Waar ik sprak over fotografen, bedoelde ik de fotografen van de portretfoto's van de presidenten die zijn gebruikt op het omslagdoek, bij de foto waarvan je zei dat ik de nominatie zou kunnen intrekken. Ook Ellywa doelde daar op. Het is inderdaad niet gebruikelijk dat de werk- of opdrachtnemer die voor een museum fotografeert wordt genoemd en dat lijkt me een goed en vanzelfsprekend gebruik. Eissink (talk) 10:41, 6 October 2019 (UTC).
@Ellywa en @Eissink O, sorry. Ik vraag iemand van Wereldculturen.nl (Tropen-, - Volkenkunde, Afrika-Museum). Hansmuller (talk) 13:25, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Got {{KIT-license}}, Hansmuller (talk) 12:08, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

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@JuTa Dear JuTa, what are you at? A licensing mail from the photographer for CC-BY-SA has been sent to the Dutch permission-OTRS as you can see (OTRS-pending), please patience... Cheers, Hansmuller (talk) 19:12, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Got OTRS-Ticket alright... Hansmuller (talk) 11:42, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

OnaangenaamEdit

Dag, Hansmuller. Ik vind het onaangenaam, dat je mij in een onheus daglicht heb willen plaatsen door een goedbedoeld bericht alhier (dat ik bovendien als inmiddels overbodig alweer had verwijderd) op mijn Nederlandse overlegpagina te plaatsen en vervolgens ook nog eens Taketa in de waan laat dat je dat op mijn verzoek, een verzoek per e-mail dan nog wel, zou hebben gedaan. Over je opmerking over mijn 'psychologie' zal ik me maar niet uitlaten. Wel eens van AGF gehoord? Groet, Eissink (talk) 13:15, 10 October 2019 (UTC).

Wat kan AGF zijn? Afko's kunnen beter vermeden worden in commu ;-). Niet boos worden, kijk naar jezelf, je verhaal klopt niet, je veronderstelt veel te veel, gewoon lezen. Ik zou het wel fijn vinden als we constructief aan de encyclopedie en Commons kunnen werken, zonde van onze tijd allemaal. Ik zie je nieuwe artikelen en afbeeldingen graag tegemoet. Groetjes, Hansmuller (talk) 08:59, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Tiff picture file 88MBEdit

Hello.

Thanks a lot adding your picture in Wikipedia "ASC_Leiden_-_van_Achterberg_Collection_-_1_-_147_-_Un_panneau_routier_avertit_de_l'infection_par_le_SIDA._"Le_SIDA_tue._Ensemble_stoppons_le_SIDA"_-_En_route_de_Bamako_pour_Ségou,_Mali_-_9-29_novembre_1996.tif". Unfortunately it size is really huge (88 MB !), in an inappropriate file format, and with a too long file name. This kind of picture should only weight about 3 or 4 MB. I did geometric changes and light corrections on your picture, and store it in jpeg format with a shorter name, that only weight 3 MB now, that I sent in this page. Details about the place, the date, and comment shouldn't be inserted in the file name, but in Wikipedia descriptions fields. I advise you to delete your previous file and send again this version with your own.

Best regards. --GodefroyParis (talk) 11:14, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Dear @GodefroyParis, Thank you for your interest, but what is your problem? There are some misunderstandings, nowadays everything i did is just standard and easily achievable. (Please don't call me "Hello".)
 
The original with author, source and other metadata, such as descriptions in more languages.
  • large version a problem, why? No, Wikipedia does NOT use the 88 MB version in the webpage SIDA where i put the image, but automatically a standard small version. On Commons you'll find a lot (5) of smaller versions included on the page
File:ASC_Leiden_-_van_Achterberg_Collection_-_1_-_147_-_Un_panneau_routier_avertit_de_l'infection_par_le_SIDA._"Le_SIDA_tue._Ensemble_stoppons_le_SIDA"_-_En_route_de_Bamako_pour_Ségou,_Mali_-_9-29_novembre_1996.tif .
So it is NOT necessary to create a secondary image. The original loads quickly, because a small version is used...
  • too long file name, why? The file name is NOT too long, why would it be? MediaWiki, Unix etcetera support long filenames. Now you can tell what the image shows without having to look up the metadata, very practical to many users. So yes, all the important data should be included in the file name. I have used long descriptive filenames in nearly 280.000 uploads to Commons without problems.
  • wrong format, why? No, .jpg is lossy, so tif(f) is the best there is, for any graphical use with the most information included, ask a publishing house, that's why the file is huge, there you are right. It should be.
  • wrong author. By the way, I see you put the wrong author on your version, you probably did not notice, but you violated the copyright, please correct. You did not include the metadata and the source.
If you don't understand, we can discuss all of this further.
Bon jour et au revoir, Hansmuller (talk) 21:28, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
PS If my French in the metadata is wrong here and there, could you be so kind to correct it? (I take it that you are French?) Thanks a lot, Hansmuller (talk) 21:37, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
PS2 @GodefroyParis You are right, in that your version is brighter and so looks better (but it does no longer contain the full original information), thanks! You can indicate in your metadata that your version is a version of the original image, key word "other_versions=". Can i include your derived version in the collection Category:Images from the African Studies Centre (Leiden)? Merci! Hansmuller (talk) 10:55, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
PS3 Dear @GodefroyParis I have fielded a question about .tif(f) at Commons:Village_pump#.tif(f)_or_.jpg/.jpeg_image_files?
In the end, this smaller version was deleted by Hedwig_in_Washington because metadata was lacking, Hansmuller (talk) 12:10, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

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{{OTRS pending |year=2019|month=10|day=27}} Hansmuller (talk) 14:34, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Apparently 1 - 006 Kribi was a spurious file. The originals

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Hi. Following your message this file has been deleted by an Administrator, not by me. Please click on the red link to know his/her name so you can talk about "dictatorship" with him/her. Yours, --Patrick Rogel (talk) 09:57, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
@Patrick Rogel @Patrick_Rogel Oh, excuse me, je me suis laissé emporter, perhaps Commons is a benevolent dictatorship by the way, of course decisions have to made, sorry again. Cordialement, Hansmuller (talk) 10:33, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
Got {{PD-Somalia}} license, Hansmuller (talk) 12:01, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

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Hoi Hans, in je naamgeving heb je nu de naam van de collectie aan het begin gezet waardoor alles onder dezelfde letter terechtkomt (dit geval de A). Zou je voor je verdere uploads de collectie en inventarisnummer aan het einde willen zetten? Ik gebruik bijvoorbeeld File:Caspar Netscher - De messenslijper - 67 - Sabauda Gallery.jpg als model voor de titels. Ik zag trouwens je vraag over tiffs. Altijd de beste kwaliteit van de bron uploaden en nooit bestandsconversies doen. Multichill (talk) 11:34, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@Multichill Beste Multichill,

Leuk van je te horen. Inderdaad is zo'n keuze van de filenaam altijd discutabel ben ik bang. Ik heb al jaren een soort herkomsttraditie gevolgd (van Husky, niet zelf bedacht). Die spoort met mijn opleiding als "middelbaar archiefambtenaar" (historisch niet-academisch archivist, voordat ik natuurkunde enzovoort ging afmaken): de structuur van het archief behouden, die de archiefvormer (een gemeente, een Nobelprijswinnaar Lorentz enzovoorts) vanwege de functie van het archief eraan heeft gegeven, was daar de mantra.

Daarom zet ik de collectiegegevens voorop, gevolgd door auteur en beschrijving met jaartal. De files komen dan in hun categorie in de volgorde van hun nummering bij de collectievormer (museumcatalogus, inventaris of diadoos), zo is makkelijk te zien welke ontbreken, bijvoorbeeld in een Images from.. categorie (vergaarbak Category:Images from the African Studies Centre (Leiden)).

Ze komen hierdoor meestal ook op chronologische volgorde (Category:Somaliland 2019 (van de Bruinhorst Collection)) te staan, en op volgorde van bladzijden in het boek waar ze soms uit gescand/gefotografeerd zijn (ondermappen van Category:Prints from the Peace Palace Library) of met een verdere thematische onderverdeling (Category:Dogon (W.E.A. van Beek Collection)). Nadelen zijn te ondervangen met extra categorieën op auteur ("Photographs by") type
Category:Photographs_by_Ohannes_Kurkdjian_from_KITLV
bijvoorbeeld voor
File:KITLV - 154157 - Kurkdjian, N.V. Photografisch Atelier - Soerabaia-Java - Borobudur in Magelang - circa 1915.tiff
Ik zou je foto van een schilderij van Caspar Netscher dus "Galleria Sabauda - 067 - Caspar Netscher - De messenslijper, 1662.jpg" of iets dergelijks (of 0067? hoeveel catalogusnummers komen er nog?) gedoopt hebben.
In ander verband kan het inderdaad lastig zijn dat alles van het Afrika-Studiecentrum enzovoorts altijd op de A terecht komt.
  • Heb je een schrijnend voorbeeld?
  • Hoe kan ik de ordening van de herkomst behouden maar ook aan jouw wens voldoen?

Fijn dat je me steunt wat de tiffs betreft. Ik kreeg geen antwoord op de volgende vragen, weet jij vast wel:
  • Kan het op den duur een probleem zijn dat een tiff van alles kan bevatten, in tegenstelling tot een .jpg. Loopt de .tiff daardoor een risico om over zeg 50 jaar niet meer gelezen te kunnen worden, en de simpeler en lossy .jpg wel?
Bedankt, met vriendelijke groeten, Hansmuller (talk) 16:17, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Als ik jou was, zou ik File:Caspar Netscher - De messenslijper - 67 - Sabauda Gallery.jpg trouwens "Netscher, Caspar - De messenslijper - 67 - Sabauda Gallery.jpg" noemen. Wikigroet, Hansmuller (talk) 10:00, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
@Multichill Tiffs blijven waarschijnlijk leesbaar op de lange duur? ondanks mogelijk onregelmatig format? Naamgeving files: User:KITbot begon ook met COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM, zou je nu niet meer doen? (In w:c:Category:Images from the Tropenmuseum / Wereldculturen staan de plaatjes nu op alfabetische volgorde van de beschrijving "A bridal", "A man" etc., fraai?) Vriendelijke groet, Hansmuller (talk) 09:02, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

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@~riley (A) Dear ~riley (A), in the meantime a CC-BY-SA-4.0 license with permission has been sent (for the second time?) to OTRS-nl by the author of these photographs Gerard van de Bruinhorst, Afrika-Studiecentrum Leiden. Thanks, Hansmuller (talk) 14:08, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

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