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WDEdit

Hi, could such categories not automatically added by the {{Wikidata Infobox}}? --Arnd (talk) 11:59, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Possibly but not easily (you would need to query either "category for people born this place", or make a category intersection to have the category of the city, then the correct subcategory. And you would still miss people who on Wikidata are born in a specific hospital or neighbourhood, which is in the city but won't have it's own category (and you can also query that in SPARQL, but not in an infobox). It's really not easily done with a template, there are too many different cases to query everything without timeout or problems. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 12:03, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
To be more clear, the infobox could deal with the most straightforward cases, but these may be something like 20/30% of the people. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 12:05, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Use of WDEdit

Hello. I understand you make mass edits, something with which I'm not familiar. (I edit with two fingers, sometimes all night. :) I corrected a couple of (there are many more) edits about Turks from Germany. Playing in FC Leverkusen does not make someone German nor playing in Istanbulspor SK makes a person Turk. I know you work also in WD so please help clean up things about Turks who may have been born in Germany (and may also have double nationality) but have chosen Turkey as their "national team". That one is the "first" (or only, sometimes) nationality they have. If there are categories about "Women's football players by team -Leverkusen" of course she/they can appear there. As long as they do not play for the German National Team, they cannot appear as "sportspeople from Germany". I have no objection to add to their WD data their German nationality if these people have it. They can appear as "Women of Germany by name" also, but not "Sportspeople from Germany" as long as they do not play for "Germany". (Leverkusen is only a "club" and may have players from all around the world.) Regards. --E4024 (talk) 15:10, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

@E4024: I understand perfectly and I agree with you. But the thing is, I didn't add the information based on what nationality they have but what country for sport they have on Wikidata. So either revert me so that I can get a notification and correct things on Wikidata, or correct Wikidata yourself. Some years ago, some users added country for sport based on sports clubs; most of it has been cleaned since but obviously not all. So if you see me make this kind of mistake, it's coming from Wikidata and at least one Wikipedia and both should also be corrected (either by me if you ping me, or by you). Thank you! --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 15:25, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Places of birthEdit

 
Fırın sütlaç from Turkey

Thanks for the great work! - Jmabel ! talk 15:44, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Yessir! I agree with you. Some dessert for Amanda. --E4024 (talk) 15:54, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Birth and death categoriesEdit

I saw that you've been adding these recently through QuickCategories. It's probably simpler to just include them through {{Wikidata Infobox}}, so I've added the functionality in {{Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. Can you try that and see if it works as you would expect it to, please? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:05, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

It would probably help if you said to me exactly what you added. The infobox doesn't add red categories when the category doesn't exist on Commons like it does for names (probably a good idea given the amount of disambiguation needed and potential errors), it doesn't work when someone is born in a neighborhood of a city (doesn't handle the subdivisions?), don't even seems to work on some more straightforward cases? I know Wikidata is still missing way too many P1464, are you using that property? --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 21:47, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
From what I understand of this you are using the English label? (I may be completely wrong about that, but I don't see P1464 in here), and the English label is usually added from the English Wikipedia, who made some very different choices than Commons concerning disambiguation and so would not work correctly for many locations (in addition, categories with an English sitelink have a "Category:Born in" instead of "Births in"…). Can you explain to me what you did exactly? @Mike Peel: --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 21:53, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
Ok, it's worse than I thought, it does add red links based on the English label, so doesn't spot the correctly linked, existing category Category:Births in Bergen, Norway, trying to add an non-existing Category:Births in Bergen. Presumably it won't care about all other disambiguations since by nature Wikidata labels won't have that disambiguation, and so add in the same category people born in Glendale, Ohio and Glendale, California. If I'm right about what it does it's a very bad idea. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 22:04, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback. I'll leave this in the sandbox for now, and I'll have a think through these issues. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:59, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
@Mike Peel:, my first idea would be to search for the P1464 of the birthplace and see if it has a Commons sitelink. It certainly wouldn't add the categories everywhere since so much data is missing, but we would be sure that the data added that way would be correct. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 18:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
That's similar to how we auto-include the award categories, so that should be feasible, but probably needs @RexxS's help to do something similar to 'getAwardCat' in Module:WikidataIB. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:05, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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