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File:Castle sign small.jpg

Hi. You flagged File:Castle sign small.jpg as "probably" not protected by {{FoP-Ireland}}. I have cited the relevant sections of the law (link to offical text provided in my citation) to demonstrate that photographs of art in public places do not violate copyright law in Ireland (see the file's deletion request). As an administrator, would you mind closing the deletion request? It has been open for five weeks. Thank you. O'Dea (talk) 04:34, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Dubious image

Hello. I'd like to bring a problem to your attention regarding these[1] [2] images. The same image, different descriptions...Kalilaths (talk) 07:23, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

@Kalilaths: that's... bizarre. You seem to have stumbled upon a 100-year-old error or fraud. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 16:29, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Bizarre, yes. Both sources seem reliable and it is hard to determine which description is the accurate one. I'll check the sources thoroughly. Kalilaths (talk) 16:47, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Delete revisions help

Hi Magog, would you be able to help me out? File:Brown University logo.svg and File:University of Chicago wordmark.svg have had non-free versions uploaded by User:KarimKoueider and they need deleted. The seals (or crests whichever you want to call it), are not in the public domain as far as we know. Thanks, Corky 00:08, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! Corky 02:51, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

File:Babyjey.jpg

Hi Magog,

I found the Wikipedia article about my band and uploaded one of our promo photos. I am in the band and own the photo (it was taken with my phone, on self-timer). The claim is that I did not give permission for the photo, but in fact, I sent a signed letter on July 3rd, 2018 to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. Are you able to update this and reverse the deletion request?

Thanks

JeremyWitten (talk) 00:50, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

@JeremyWitten: in fact, User:DarwIn has already handled it. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:38, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Il piccione zoppo

Has the status of all pictures uploaded by Il piccione zoppo been verified ? File:Sylva Koscina Frontoni 70.JPG is suspect. 69.181.23.220 01:16, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

I nominated it for deletion, actually. No, the status hasn't been verified and you should feel free to nominate any of his pictures for deletion. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:52, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

hi This Pissycat is for you

Joseph usef (talk) 06:18, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Administrator's noticeboard.

Hi there. I have recently noticed issues with the edits made by the user Giorgi Balakhadze. He was first edit-warring on File:Location of the de facto Republic of Abkhazia in Eastern Europe.svg and later globally replaced that map with one that he was trying to push earlier. After addressing the issue on his user page he was very hostile and used aggressive wording by refusing further dialogue and telling me it was a waste of time talking to me. After doing some digging in his upload history I noticed a number of files that he has been POV pushing in before and brought them up on his talk page and also on an administrator's noticeboard as he did not want further dialogue. I also saw that in his block log you were the one who has previously blocked him for previous disruptive behaviour, and you were also the one who unblocked him on the basis that he will change this behaviour, which is why I thought it would be appropriate to ask you to take a look at the report I made here Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#Actions of Giorgi Balakhadze, as well as at Giorgi's comments and actions. Other administrators expressed that they were too busy at the moment, so I really hope you can take a look at this issue. Thank you! --Relignments (talk) 19:38, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

This link will be my answer: Commons:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/WhyHellWhy --Ⴂ. ႡႠႪႠႾႠႻႤ 21:07, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

File:Resonant barrier-less conduction.pdf

Hi! No permission required for this file as written here: [3]. --Arthur Crbz (talk) 08:54, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

@Arthur Crbz: no problem, thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:03, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Discussion board

Hello Magog the Ogre, are there any appropriate pages to discuss or request deletion for dubious images? BTW, what is the difference between "own work" and "original research" on the Commons? And can we request deletion for the images that are based on unreliable sources? (e.g. personal blogs)? If so, could you please link me some helpful pages? Cheers. Kalilaths (talk) 11:56, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Edit: I think, I have found out (by having a look at your contribs) how to request this. Kalilaths (talk) 20:20, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

@Kalilaths: there is a link under the tools section on your screen. It says "nominate for deletion." That is a catchall way to handle unreliable images. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:27, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

File:Sinsheim_-_ADAC_H%C3%B6nig_-_Mercedes-Benz_Actros_1844_-_2018-07-29_14-53-11.jpg

I wrote the template badly, and the bot broke it, not repaired. Zwiadowca 21 10:02, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

@Zwiadowca21: thanks. I'll take a look at what happened there. It's definitely a case of garbage in, garbage out, so I'm not sure if I'll make any fixes quite yet. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 10:10, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Help on photo

Hi, Magog. Would you be able to help me with a deletion request? I am needing redirects File:Robert L. Wilkie official photo.jpg and File:Robert L. Wilkie official photo (cropped).jpg deleted so I can upload a new photo that is different. I jumped the gun and assumed that his acting Secretary of the VA photo was going to be his official SECVA photo... but it's not! Thanks, Corky 01:02, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

@Corkythehornetfan: I'm not clear what you're trying to do here. But I don't like to delete long-standing redirects since the old URL might be used by non-WMF wikis (e.g., legacy Wikivoyage) and websites. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:06, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
His official photo as the U.S. Secretary of Veterans Affair is this image. This image was his acting sercretary photo - two different images. Basically, the new official image I've linked would be uploaded under "Robert L. Wilkie official photo.jpg"... I can create a different name for the new version if that is preferred, but I'd like to stick with the standard naming for the Trump Administration photos if possible. Hope that helps! Corky 01:18, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
I decided to use portrait instead. Thanks, Corky 05:19, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
@Corkythehornetfan: sorry I was mulling over how I wanted to handle that. I guess it shouldn't be a problem if you decide to use the title you asked. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 10:08, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
No worries! I had got to thinking and realized that his middle initial isn't used in the article title, so I went ahead and uploaded it under File:Robert Wilkie official portrait.jpg which still falls under tbe standard naming for Trump Administration personnel. Corky 15:53, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

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Blocking policy

OgreBot 2 broke a license

Crime scene - Alexis Jazz ping plz 23:38, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: it actually seems like one of the templates is broken. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:27, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
I don't get it. {{LangSwitch|en=''{{Cc-by-sa-3.0}}''}} works, {{Original text/i18n|text|text={{Cc-by-sa-3.0}}}} doesn't. Other templates with tables like {{Notice}} have the same problem. The answer is probably somewhere in the escape room.   - Alexis Jazz ping plz 00:54, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

File:Rita5dayqpf.gif

 
File:Rita5dayqpf.gif has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

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B dash (talk) 03:06, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Removal of information by OgreBot 2

OgreBot 2 removed information from "File:Samuel Maverick.jpg". I'm not sure why it did this. Could you please look into this? — SGconlaw (talk) 15:32, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Please read the FAQ. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:13, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Hmmm. — SGconlaw (talk) 06:44, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

stained glass windows copyright

Hi Magog,

I am still trying to figure out copyright/stained glass art. I have included my question for Alexis Jazz after I got your message. She had recently explained the panorama tag/copyright stained glass issue to me. I plan on changing the copyright tag for the Flickr photos of stained glass to "PD-art|PD-1923". If you still see a problem with this tag, please let me know. My question for Alexis is below, and her response. MauraWen (talk) 19:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Extended content

Hi Alexis, I thought I understood (now) the copyright/PD issue for stained glass in England. I am using the panorama copyright UK for stained glass windows, both on Flickr images and one photo I scanned from a book. Is that not correct? My St. Elizabeth of Hungary image is being flagged for deletion. Please advise. thx MauraWen (talk) 18:08, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@MauraWen: FoP itself is not a license. It gives permission for what is depicted (the stained glass, or a statue, etc) but not for its depiction (the photograph). Which is interesting, I can't recall running into this before. What if the thing depicted is covered by FoP and the photograph is a slavish copy? I don't know. The stained glass that was installed before 1923 can be tagged {{PD-art|PD-1923}}, those where the author of the stained glass died more than 70 years ago {{PD-art|PD-old-auto|deathyear=1900}} or a combination: {{PD-art|PD-old-auto-1923|deathyear=1900}}. But if they didn't? It's still covered by FoP and Bridgeman v. Corel, but I wouldn't know how to license it. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 18:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files of User:Ramsky78

@Magog the Ogre: I have nominated all files uploaded by User:Ramsky78 for deletion in the past two days as obvious screengrabs of Google Street View imagery, but it has been caught in the backlog and should be deleted immediately. Can you delete those (or speedily delete them) and warn the user, though the account has been dormant since March 2018.--TagaSanPedroAkoTalk -> 03:19, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

@Magog the Ogre: Can you please reply? It has been three days. Thanks. TagaSanPedroAkoTalk -> 01:19, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

@TagaSanPedroAko: sorry. In my opinion, this isn't time critical so it can wait the standard discussion time. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:31, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
@Magog the Ogre: Since the mass deletion requests involve obvious copyvios (i.e. crops of Google Street View screen grabs), is it possible to have the files deleted immediately? It may take even a week or so, but for very obvious violations, we can delete them immediately. --TagaSanPedroAkoTalk -> 01:35, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
@TagaSanPedroAko: It is obvious in a few instances but I would prefer to wait for community consensus. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:40, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
@Magog the Ogre: We may wait for any other users, especially those involved in photos of places in the Philippines, but how can we invite others to that discussion? That part is something I don't know. Since the copyvios are spotted too late, I would agree on having community consensus first, but there are only a few users working of images of the Philippines who may be looking on any relevant discussions.--TagaSanPedroAkoTalk -> 01:49, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
@TagaSanPedroAko: we normally don't for a routine request like this one. An administrator will give everyone a few weeks to respond, and then make a decision. If the uploader provides no coherent explanation, it will usually resolve in a delete. The system isn't perfect, but it's the best we've got. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 19:15, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
@Magog the Ogre: It has been three weeks since the DR was created, but no action has been taken. We couldn't just invite someone working with Philippines-related imagery to the DR, but should this be prioritized. We may consider a delete or a speedy delete, whichever depending on consensus.--TagaSanPedroAkoTalk -> 23:07, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
@TagaSanPedroAko: sorry we move as fast as we can. I've deleted this one. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:48, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

About a picture deleted...

I saw this in my watch list that was deleted. The veredict said that was a picture not blurred, but I remember that the picture was already blurred. It's possible to restore the picture from the link? If there's not blur areas, i'll modify it to make it fair.

Also, about this category, I remember that the category had the number exactly of 274 or 275 pictures, but, today I went there to check, and was surprised that there's only 245 images in this category. I don't know if a bunch of pictures were deleted, or the category "bemani" was removed. Can you help me with that? My reagards.--VictorPines (talk) 20:30, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

@VictorPines: the image was not blurred. If you want to blur, I've placed the image here: https://snag.gy/mwzjMi.jpg. Feel free to download and reupload to the same location. Also, please blur the following images:
Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 20:55, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
Ok, but I have to blur the screens, or the logos?--VictorPines (talk) 21:04, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
@VictorPines: With all due respect, I've explained this before; it's time that you learn this on your own. If you don't understand this, please reread our many conversations and the links which I will again provide here: COM:DW, COM:TOO. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:31, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

File:Cotton Belt Rail Line Map.svg

 
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Ronhjones  (Talk) 02:04, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

@Túrelio: in my opinion, given that this is a map, and some similarities are inevitable, this might be better at DR. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 15:56, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File/Capricia_MM.jpg

A image is considered by Italian law as open data, if published by an Italian public administration without the application of any license. Therefore, to upload the file it is mandatory to indicate the name of the institution and the complete address of the web page in which this file was published --Marinaio56 (talk) 00:27, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Marinaio56: it just needs a copyright tag. That's all. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:28, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
This is the copyright tag: Italy-CAD-OBD--Marinaio56 (talk) 09:29, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
@Marinaio56: the template doesn't fit our standard license template, so neither the bots nor even I recognized it as a license. I will fix it up later. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 21:00, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
@Magog the Ogre: It's a italian template for italian wiki; thank you for fixing--Marinaio56 (talk) 19:10, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files of User:Mikecurry1

@Magog the Ogre: My files were properly attributed per the weblink. I have thus sent an email to wikipedia (OTRS) which is pending. Please do not delete or nominate any more of my files for deletion using a web bot, they have been properly attributed with a copyright tag provided. Mikecurry1 (talk) 04:14, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

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