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BotMultichillT dupes Commons

Latest comment: 4 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

BotMultichillT↱ 2018
Ramblersen↱ 2014

Hello.
Images are the same, as far as I can see – only JPEG metadata (Exif) differ. You should, at very least, merge these two File:s, as simply deleting the older upload would be disrespectful to the original uploader. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 16:20, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Colors are different so these two shouldn't be merged. Multichill (talk) 16:29, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

I got the colors thing now: the older is in Adobe RGB whereas the bot’s uses default JPEG color (sRGB? I’m no expert here). The pixels are evaluated to the same (or very similar) RrGgBb values, but on the monitor the Ramblersen’s upload looks much more colorful that the bot’s. Are you sure that the newer file specifies correct colors? Wasn’t it [accidentally] decolored by stripping of the color profile information? Incorrect interpretation of Adobe RGB data as they were sRGB with its narrower gamut theoretically produces this effect. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 16:58, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

File:US Navy 110219-N-HI707-172 Quartermaster 1st Class John Hill, left, and Chief Warrant Officer Ouro Djala conduct navigation training while underway.jpg

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

File:US Navy 110219-N-HI707-172 Quartermaster 1st Class John Hill, left, and Chief Warrant Officer Ouro Djala conduct navigation training while underway.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

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Le Petit Chat (talk) 09:39, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - testing qualifiers for depicts

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

As you might have seen, testing is underway for adding qualifiers to depicts statements. If you have not left feedback already, the Structured Data on Commons development team is very interested in hearing about your experience using qualifiers on the file page and in the UploadWizard. To get started you can visit Test-Commons and chose a random file to test out, or upload your own file to try out the UploadWizard. Questions, comments, and concerns can be left on the Structured data talk page and the team will address them as best as they can. Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Commons:Project scope

Latest comment: 4 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion

I saw you undid a couple of revisions I made to this page, where I replaced

[[:en:Wikimedia project|Wikimedia project]]s with {{Wikimedia Foundation}} projects
Microsoft [[w:Microsoft Word|Word]] and [[w:Microsoft Excel|Excel]] with {{Microsoft Word}} and {{Microsoft Excel}}

The templates have little effect in the English version of this page. However, they "show through" into translated versions of the page where the English text has not been translated, which is common, and link to articles in the corresponding Wikipedias. You will see the effect at Commons:Project scope/it#Must be an allowable free file format, as long as your reversion has not been flagged for translation. I think this is an improvement.

You may not have noticed that the new {{Wikimedia Foundation}}, {{Microsoft Word}} and {{Microsoft Excel}} templates are meant to be used on Commons/Help pages, and by default use the page language rather than the user language. Should they have a different name format to make that more obvious? E.g. {{WPL-Wikimedia Foundation}} or something? Aymatth2 (talk) 20:47, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Actually they do, I noticed "Wikimedia projects" changing to "Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. projects". Using templates in full text for translation generally complicates things. I would stick to plain links or only use a bit of logic for the linking part. Multichill (talk) 15:31, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

I believe it is important to recognise that text on English pages will show in other language versions, and should link to target pages in the version's language where possible. I have tweaked {{Wikimedia Foundation}} so it accepts a display name. E.g.

{{Wikimedia Foundation}} gives Wikimedia Foundation on an English-language page
{{Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia}} gives Wikimedia
{{Wikimedia Foundation|lang=ar}} gives مؤسسة ويكيميديا. The |lang=ar parm is not needed if the page language is Arabic.
{{Wikimedia Foundation|lang=ar|Wikimedia}} gives Wikimedia

A link to en:Wikimedia project, a redirect to an anchor in an English Wikipedia page seems an impossible challenge to the translator. The German and French translations of Commons:Project scope both give up and link to Wikimedia:Home. Would you be o.k. with replacing [[en:Wikimedia project]] with {{Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia}} projects? Aymatth2 (talk) 00:21, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

That looks like a good solution. Multichill (talk) 09:41, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I fully agree that using templates in full text to translate bits of text rarely works well, but this should work o.k. The translator can choose whether to let the article name show through or to replace it by some other text. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:38, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Depicts itself?

Latest comment: 4 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Hi! This edit looks quite strange for me. I think this picture depicts József Eötvös, not Portrait of József Eötvös—it is Portrait of József Eötvös. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 23:00, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

@Tacsipacsi: Hi to you! In this case we have two works

The painting, which is described at Portrait of József Eötvös (Q64353067)
The photo, which is described at File:Barabas-eotvos.jpg and which is a digital surrogate of the painting

The painting depicts József Eötvös (Q469996) (that's on the item). The photo depicts and is a digital representation of the painting. So it's a two step approach. Of course you want to search for the guy and find this file, for this we have phab:T223815 open. Does that make it clearer? Multichill (talk) 15:37, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

It’s still weird for me, but I understand your point. What I still don’t understand is why is it worth storing twice (once in depicts (P180) and once in digital representation of (P6243)). By the way, does anything use these statements currently? —Tacsipacsi (talk) 11:15, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

@Tacsipacsi: see also Commons talk:Structured data#digital representation of. As far as I know, these statements are not used anywhere (besides being in the search). It's a bit of a chicken and an egg problem, you need a lot of statements to do something nice with it, you only add statements when something nice is being done with it. By seeding it a bit I hope not to get stuck in this cycle. Multichill (talk) 11:30, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Bot not marking its edits as bot edits

Latest comment: 4 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Hello. BotMultichill is making lots of edits at present, but they are not marked as bot edits. This is making it difficult to notice any other edits mixed in to the list. Can you set the bot flag for its edits? --Mirokado (talk) 11:20, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

@Mirokado: thanks for your message and sorry about that, looks like the bot field fell out. Edits are now marked as bot edits. Multichill (talk) 11:27, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response! --Mirokado (talk) 11:49, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Mass upload

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hey, Some people mentioned that Antoin Sevruguin now satisfies {{PD-old-80}} and there are more than 1000 historically important pictures that can be uploaded to Commons. Do you think you can take a look or let someone else know about this? Thank you! Amir (talk) 09:09, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

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Affected:

File:US Navy 041020-N-0493B-003 Backed by a monument marking the location of Gen. Douglas MacArthur's return to the Philippines 60 years ago, a Philippine Marine Corps honor guard stands at attention during the playing of Taps.jpg

Yours sincerely, Howhontanozaz (talk) 13:44, 28 June 2019 (UTC) Howhontanozaz (talk) 13:44, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Afrikaans ∙ Bahasa Indonesia ∙ bosanski ∙ català ∙ čeština ∙ dansk ∙ Deutsch ∙ Deutsch (Sie-Form)‎ ∙ eesti ∙ English ∙ español ∙ Esperanto ∙ français ∙ galego ∙ hrvatski ∙ íslenska ∙ italiano ∙ magyar ∙ Nederlands ∙ norsk ∙ norsk bokmål ∙ norsk nynorsk ∙ occitan ∙ Plattdüütsch ∙ polski ∙ português ∙ português do Brasil ∙ română ∙ shqip ∙ sicilianu ∙ slovenčina ∙ slovenščina ∙ suomi ∙ svenska ∙ Tiếng Việt ∙ Türkçe ∙ Zazaki ∙ Ελληνικά ∙ беларуская ∙ беларуская (тарашкевіца)‎ ∙ български ∙ македонски ∙ русский ∙ српски / srpski ∙ українська ∙ հայերեն ∙ বাংলা ∙ മലയാളം ∙ ပအိုဝ်ႏဘာႏသာႏ ∙ မြန်မာဘာသာ ∙ ไทย ∙ 조선말 ∙ 한국어 ∙ 日本語 ∙ 中文 ∙ 中文（简体）‎ ∙ 中文（繁體）‎ ∙ עברית ∙ العربية ∙ پښتو ∙ فارسی ∙ ދިވެހިބަސް ∙ +/−

Affected:

File:Starr 980501-4001 Passiflora tarminiana.jpg

And also:

Yours sincerely, Ies (talk) 18:10, 28 June 2019 (UTC)