User talk:Natuur12

License template categoriesEdit

Recently, a template with an OTRS reference was created for my photos in another site. As usual, this template was protected (in this case, by you); so I cannot edit it. I have recently spotted a small problem with this template: photos with that template are automatically located in "Category:Photos by Spotter LEVT", but there's already a category with the same purpose ("Category:Photographs by Spotter LEVT"). As I would like to have all my photos in the same category, I request you to change the template so that it includes media with it in "Category:Photographs by Spotter LEVT".--Spotter LEVT (talk) 14:03, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done please let me know if my edit is correct. Natuur12 (talk) 07:29, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Perfect now. Thanks!--Spotter LEVT (talk) 19:15, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


Thanks for blocking Unfitlouie as an IAC sock. I too has suspected that they are an IAC sock seeing their unblock request at enwiki. I cannot however say my supiscion since you close that AN/U thread. And thanks also for closing Commons:Deletion requests/File:Air Force One in Havana (25562710754).jpg as kept! Face-smile.svg Poké95 10:13, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome. But please be carefull when dealing with them. Will show you why if you why if you pay a visit to IRC. Natuur12 (talk) 10:22, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Why are they blocked on Commons for actions on en:WP? Commons, some people vehemently more so than others, will defend Commons' independence from WMF and en:WP at all costs. Yet here, Commons somehow rolls right over? Andy Dingley (talk) 19:35, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Privacy violations, onwiki harrasment, off wiki harrasment, block evasion and other forms of sockpuppetry and this involves Commons and Commons users. I can continue if you want but please don't make a fuss about some blocked creepy LTA. Natuur12 (talk) 19:48, 30 April 2016 (UTC)


Thank you for your nomination and continued support throughout my RfA that is now due to close. I appreciate your kind words and the time you put in to composing them! ~riley (talk) 18:38, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome and congratz :). Natuur12 (talk) 20:39, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Copyright QueryEdit

What does this mean for copyright?--Hipposcrashed (talk) 02:48, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, imho it is okay to upload their images using the template {{Attribution}} but when in doubt it is always advisable to contact a Japanese user. Natuur12 (talk) 15:47, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, can you delete this image? I just realized that it is a third party image. All other I uploaded images are okay. --Hipposcrashed (talk) 17:23, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done as you wish. Natuur12 (talk) 17:25, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
I have another question the Imperial Family of Japan website says that anything is based on terms of use is Creative Commons Attribution License 4.0. But one thing that's questionable is that they said anything related to the Imperial family is considered third party. I already uploaded some images though.-Hipposcrashed (talk) 03:17, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
Also if images like that are copyrighted, can I crop out the part that has a member of the family? I uploaded an image has a member of the Imperial family on one side that I don't need.-Hipposcrashed (talk) 03:31, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
Their website says that their terms of use is controlled by the Copyright Act of Japan which confuses me more. I thought this would be an easy thing because the government changed all copyrights of their websites but somehow the Imperial Household has this extra bit. --Hipposcrashed (talk) 03:32, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
@Whym: could you please take a look? You do know far more about Japanese copyright law than I do. Natuur12 (talk) 07:51, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
@Hipposcrashed: My (possibly incomplete) understanding is as follows. The IHA has made most of their online materials CC BY 4.0 equivalent. However, they chose to exclude depictions of the imperial family from their CC release. Many governmental agencies did the same—most of the works were released but not all. I would consider any photograph by the IHA that depicts the family was not released (thus cannot be used on Commons). For further questions, try COM:井戸端. whym (talk) 03:21, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

File:Children bodyboarding.jpgEdit

Hallo Natuur12, wilt u astublieft bovenstaande foto (en mijn GP) verwijderen? Ik voel me er erg onprettig bij en heb daarom even specifiek contact opgenomen. Bij voorbaat dank. Mvg, FritsHG (Talk/Email) 18:51, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Sorry maar je zal een andere moderator moeten zoeken. Je hebt op verschillende projecten uitgesproken geen vertrouwen te hebben in de manier waarop ik knopjes hanteer of wil hanteren. Dat mag, maar dan zal je wel een ander om hulp moeten vragen. Natuur12 (talk) 19:05, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Omdat ik heb aangegeven geen vertrouwen in je te hebben (meer dan een jaar geleden) verwijder je een bestand gewoon maar niet??? Dat is toch raar. Je bent mod om gebruikers te helpen, zonder aanzien des persoons. Sorry dat ik een lange tijd geleden gezegd heb geen vertrouwen in je te hebben. Echter vind ik dit een beetje rare actie... FritsHG (Talk/Email) 19:48, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Vorig jaar is vorige maand? Nee, bij deze kwestie spelen er mogelijk privacy issue's en als jij een maand geleden (op een ander project weliswaar) aangegeven hebt geen vertrouwen te hebben in mij als moderator ben ik niet de geschikte persoon om dit soort verzoeken van jou hand af te handelen. Om die reden zal je een ander moeten zoeken en die zijn er zat. Natuur12 (talk) 19:55, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Photos need permissionEdit

Hi, Recently I put up several pics on Hamdi Ulukaya's Wikipedia page. Although a permission email was sent to "permissions" from the owner of the photographs, a "Bot" took them down from Commons because the OTRS editors did not yet get through their 72-day backlog of going through permission emails before the Bot did its work. However, not all the pics were taken down. So I took a look at the photo that is still on the Wiki article and noticed that you put a permission tag on this picture on 28 April, but then one minute later you took it down. I wonder if you can explain to me why you took away the permission, and what needs to be done to get the permission back. In addition, there are several other photos that also need the permission tag so they can be re-posted on the Wikipedia article.

Plus this one that I already mentioned.

Please note that there is one small difference in the file name of File:Portrait_of_Hamdi_Ulukaya.jpg. The permission email has the URL with an "e" and calls the file a "jpeg" but the correct URL is as above, without the "e".

Thank you, I hope you can help. Eatdrinkmerry (talk) 06:13, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Dear Eatdrinkmerry,
The ticket is currently in limbo because I never received a reply after I send a follow up question. But there is another problem, the photographs come from several sources.
File:Hamdi Ulukaya and Bill Clinton.JPG -> subject is listed as the author which is unlikely, I need to know who took the photograph
File:Hamdi UNFAcceptance 2015.jpg -> I need an explanation regarding how the copyright was transferred
File:ChobaniLaColombe 224.tif -> false author information or false EXIF. Needs to be cleared up + not mentioned in the ticket
File:20160123 ulukaya-hamburg 01 LoRes.jpg -> false author information or false EXIF. Needs to be cleared up + not mentioned in the ticket
I am afraid that the change that this can be resolved is very slim. Natuur12 (talk) 20:41, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Please avoid watermarked picturesEdit

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The image File:Emily Wickersham.jpg you uploaded contains watermarks. The usage of watermarks is discouraged according to policy. If a non-watermarked version of the image is available, please upload it under the same file name and then remove this template. After removing the watermark, ensure that the removed information is present in the EXIF tags, the image description page, or both.

Thank you for understanding.

Elisfkc (talk) 01:20, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

@Elisfkc: I am not sure why you are slapping my talk page with some irrelevant boilerplate message but please don't do that again. There are no non watermarked free files and removing the watermark could violate the author's copyright. Please don't use this standard message when contacting experienced editors uploading third party files. Natuur12 (talk) 07:13, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
I highly disagree. There are many free files that are not watermarked. Look around Flickr and Commons and you will see. Elisfkc (talk) 18:29, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
Than point me out a free file of Wickersham that doesn't contain a watermark. Natuur12 (talk) 18:34, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
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