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The file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike LicenseEdit

Hello. According to the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike License You are free to:

Share — copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format Adapt — remix, transform, and build upon the material for any purpose, even commercially.

As long as you give credit which I did.

So why did you remove the Fanta logo file? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FoldupLeak (talk • contribs) 22:13, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Very different pictures under same file nameEdit

Hi natuur12, would you be so kind as to have a look at this page: File:Calvijn College.jpg? The first image was uploaded by CrazyPhunk, who is listed as the author. The second, current, image was uploaded several years later by Smit60. It replaced the original image without replacing the name of the author. My guess is that the second image should have been uploaded as e new file. Anyway, the user now gets to see the name CrazyPhunk as the author of an image he never created. What to do in an instance like this? Wikiklaas (talk) 16:49, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Dear Wikiklaas,
In cases like this a admin needs to split the file history. See File:Calvijn College 2.jpg for the result. Commons:History merging and splitting/Requests is where you can request history splits and merges. Regards, Natuur12 (talk) 17:10, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, I was indeed looking for a page where I could make the request in stead of having to bother you. Cheers. Wikiklaas (talk) 17:13, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Donald Trump closeEdit

Your closing statement is obnoxious and absolutely deserves no respect - it's nonsense on stilts that a ticket creates a substantial doubt for a licence that is public and prominent. Please learn that your statements can be read and people who actually contribute here will find what you say in that statement totally offensive and not wish to help us out. Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:50, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

  • Please elaborate why you find my statement offensive. And yes, the ticket doesn't create/generate significant doubt but the content of the ticket does. Slip of the pen. Natuur12 (talk) 18:02, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
It is offensive, because you actually misrepresent that we, who participated, are not photographers and that we are instead children you think you can talk down to. And no, what's in the ticket does not create doubt because the file is right now downloadable under a prominent and public CC licence by the whole world. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 18:09, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
When I stated photographers I was clearly referring to professionals not part of the Wikimedia Community. (Given the context of my post that was pretty obvious.) And look, you don’t know what the OTRS-ticket states and therefor you cannot judge if the content generates significant doubt or not. Natuur12 (talk) 18:20, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
So, you offer excuses for being offensive. No wonder your close was so obnoxious, what you think what other photographers may or may not think is what's called 'concern trolling'. I most certainly do know that it creates no doubt that the image is right now under CC licence for the whole world to download. Alanscottwalker (talk) 18:31, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
@Alanscottwalker: Please moderate your language (obnoxious; calling someone offensive; absolutely deserves no respect; it's nonsense;) --Steinsplitter (talk) 18:47, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
I did not call someone offensive, I said what they wrote is offensive because it is. I said what the wrote deserves no respect, I said what they reasoned is nonsense, etc. And I have said why I am criticizing their writing - directly. Alanscottwalker (talk) 18:54, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
It is splitting a very fine hair indeed if you find a material difference between saying someone is offering "excuses for being offensive" and "calling someone offensive". I also endorse Natuur12's closure of that undeletion request, specifically the language he used, and I do not think it was provocative in the least. If you do upon a second honest reading of it, I think you should seriously consider recalibrating your radar. Storkk (talk) 20:35, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
What are you talking about? I did not find a difference between saying someone is offering excuses for being offensive, and calling someone offensive. I did not however call someone offensive, I called what they wrote offensive. Because it is. That you endorse writing offensive nonsense is irrelevant, and just demonstrates your comments lack of what you call "calibration." So, no, I won't taking your pompous calibration comment seriously because it is not. Alanscottwalker (talk) 21:16, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Need Your Help AgainEdit

Hello Natuur12, Two years ago you helped me with photo verification on some photos I took and put in an article I created Chris Roupas. I recently figured out how to get another photo from that batch I took to upload into the article, can you take a look and make sure I verified it correctly like the way you helped me do the other ones so it does not get removed. Thank you very much for any help you can give me.Here is the file I just uploaded to the article if you need that as well.Thank you again. PSUSTATS (talk) 22:37, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Natuur12, It looks like you already did this for me two years ago, I see comments from you now after I sent the above help request. Sorry to have bothered you, thanks again for you all do and for helping me.PSUSTATS (talk) 22:44, 19 June 2017 (UTC)


Hi. Is this the same file you deleted?   — Jeff G. ツ 03:49, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Likely, yes. There are no other deleted versions present. Natuur12 (talk) 20:38, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
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