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Monument aux mortsEdit

Bonjour, il n'y a pas de liberté de panorama en france, donc les photos de statues sont des oeuvres dérivées de cette statue, et le droit d'auteur de leur sculpteur doit être pris en compte. Si ce sculpteur, ou le possesseur des droits de propriété intellectuelle, est mort depuis plus de 70 ans, alors cette oeuvre est dans le domaine publique et il n'y a pas de problème (encore qu'il faut quand même dans ce cas indiquer le nom de l'auteur). Sinon, ces photos risquent grandement d'être supprimées de commons... --Lilyu (talk) 08:18, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Salut, Toutes les statues ont été réalisées il y a plus de 70 ans. Généralement, il n'y a pas d'auteur. Par contre, quand il y en a, je le mentionne bien évidemment (Cf: http://ps1.free.fr/Monuments-aux-Morts/picture.php?/1094/category/8) Philweb (talk) 11:02, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Tu veux dire qu'il n'y a pas d'auteur connu, ou pas connu de toi ? La réalisation il y a plus de 70 ans ne vaut que si le nom du sculpteur est inconnu... et j'entends par là que l’œuvre a été installée sans que personne ne sache qui était l'auteur (j'en doute). Le fait que ce ne soit pas indiqué sur le monument ne signifie pas que l'auteur est inconnu, il est peut être mentionné sur un bon de commande dans de vieilles archives, dans des journaux de l'époque etc. Tu es sûr que File:Monument aux Morts - St Urbain-29 2.jpg a plus de 70 ans ? Peux tu fournir la date de construction des différentes stèles ?
Il est préférable que tu importes sur commons les photos de monuments dont tu connais l'auteur, sa date de mort, et la date de "publication" de l’œuvre. En l'état, la description des images que tu as uploadé est trop lacunaire pour permettre de déterminer que l’œuvre photographié est réellement "libre" ou pas.--Lilyu (talk) 11:41, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Je dis pas ça pour t'embêter, c'est juste que photographier des oeuvres d'art ou monuments en France est hyper problématique en raison de l'aspect très restrictif du code sur la propriété intellectuelle, et que les recommandations de commons requièrent une claire identification du statut de copyright d'une oeuvre.--Lilyu (talk) 11:46, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Bonjour, excusez moi de m'introduire dans votre échange. Mais c'est vrai que quand on voit la quantité de photos qu'il y a dans la Category:War_memorials on ne pense pas que cela puisse poser problème de les importer. Comme celle-ci. A partir du moment où la photo est prise depuis un lieu public, c’est pas bon ?--Gaëlle FILY (talk) 22:03, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
La liberté de panorama existe en Angleterre (see Commons:FOP#United_Kingdom ) , mais pas en France. --Lilyu (talk) 22:49, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Je rentre d'une semaine de congés. je reprends la discussion. Bon, OK pour les sculptures. Mais les monuments avec juste une croix ou un obélisque ne sont pas forcément considérés comme des sculptures? 82.245.192.27 17:15, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Rien à voir avec être une sculpture ou pas... c'est plutôt une question de créativité, et c'est un sujet plutôt compliqué... à voir au cas par cas si l'argument "pas assez original pour ouvrir à des droits d'auteur" peut suffire. --Lilyu (talk) 22:01, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
D'accord je comprends que la créativité doit être prise en compte mais je reviens sur mes croix et autres obélisques des monuments aux morts. Je ne pense pas qu'il ait beaucoup matière à créativité dans ces cas là !!! En matière de monuments aux morts, il y a peu de monuments avec des statues. Philweb (talk) 22:13, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

écoute, j'ai été sympa, je t'ai averti en français d'un possible problème concernant un nombre important de tes photos, je t'ai fournit un lien vers la page de recommandation de Commons sur la liberté de panorama, et je n'ai pas proposé tes photos à la suppression. Maintenant tu es averti et informé, et il y a une chance élevée qu'un jour ta page de discussion soit recouverte de dizaines d'avis de suppressions pour travail dérivé de matériel sous protection du droit d'auteur. Comme ça tu es préparé et ça réduira un peu le choc si ça t'arrive. --Lilyu (talk) 22:30, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Merci pour tes avertissements et pour la liberté de panorama en France. Mais personnellement, je trouve qu'un monument aux morts avec une croix dessus n'est pas forcément une oeuvre d'art... Donc, je continue et on verra. Philweb (talk) 19:39, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

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BrightRaven (talk) 12:28, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Bonjour. Si vous avez la permission des artistes (la permission d'autres personnes n'est pas nécessaire), il faut suivre la procédure décrite ici. Cordialement, BrightRaven (talk) 13:13, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

OK pour la procédure OTRS mais comme vous pouvez le remarquer, j'ai un grand nombre de photos prises en ville... cela va me demander beaucoup de temps pour le faire... Philweb (talk) 13:30, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

OK je viens d'envoyer une demande d'autorisation pour toutes les photos à permission.commons. J'espère qu'il ne faudra pas envoyer un mail par photo !!! Philweb (talk) 14:00, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Non, je crois qu'un mail suffit pour toutes les oeuvres qui ont le même auteur. BrightRaven (talk) 14:07, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

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Yours sincerely, VIGNERON (talk) 09:33, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

BonjourEdit

2 de mes photos doivent être enlevée... 1) la photo "Brest2012-Philweb 231.jpg" n'a pas été prise pour le pont mais pour les bateaux du 1er plan lors de la fête nautique de Brest 2012. Je vous ferais remarquer que ce pont est au 2ème plan et donc n'est pas le sujet principal de cette photo.

2) la photo "File:Pont de Recouvrance.jpg" ne représente absolument pas le pont !!! ce n'est pas parce que le nom du fichier s'appelle Recouvrance qu'il faut forcéement l'enlever !!! Elle représente une plaque commémorative qui existait avant les travaux du tram.

Donc, je ne suis pas d'accord pour supprimer ces 2 photos. Philweb (talk) 10:08, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

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Oui, je sais qu'il manque l'autorisation de l'auteur des 2 photos. Je lui ai envoyé une demande hier. J'attends sa réponse (attention: ce sont les vacances...). Merci de patienter un peu avant de supprimer les photos. --Philweb (talk) 13:21, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
@Jarekt: My collegue Philweb had only an oral authorization to verse those two files on Commons and went too fast  . We are waiting for the written confirmation for those. We'll send it by the OTRS system as required but the author is on vacation right now. Thank you for your understanding and sorry for my basic level of english. --El Funcionario (talk) 20:39, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

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Monuments aux morts Aisne et FranceEdit

Bonjour, Connais-tu le site sur les Monuments aux morts Aisne http://www.genealogie-aisne.com/old_genealogie/newmam/index.htm ? --Havang(nl) (talk) 12:19, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Salut, non je ne connais pas mais je vais jeter un oeil pour le compte de l'université de Lille. Merci pour l'info. --Philweb (talk) 16:19, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Et connais-tu : http://www.geneanet.org/gallery/?action=geolist&rubrique=monuments&country=FRA&p=2&0=country pour toute la France --Havang(nl) (talk) 17:36, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Of course, j'y participe aussi mais je préfère cette entrée: http://www.memorialgenweb.org/memorial3/html/fr/index.php. Cela permet de voir les noms des soldats, les conflits, et... les monuments. Site très sérieux et très complet. --Philweb (talk) 17:45, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

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avel morEdit

Salut, l'Avel Mor est une vedette militaire qui date de 1991 (et non de 1988 comme tu le dis). Ce n'est pas un vieux gréement. C'est juste le bateau que j'ai utilisée pour voir la grande parade de Brest 2016. Vas voir la page http://wiki-brest.net/index.php/La_Grande_Parade_(Brest_2016) et tu comprendras tout. Merci pour tes corrections --Philweb (talk) 18:59, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Bonsoir,
Désolé pour la confusion... C'est vrai que je n'ai pas poussé mes vérifications. J'espère que ce sera la seule erreur que j'aurais faite. Bonne soirée, --Fab5669 (talk) 19:01, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Ne t'en fais pas... je veille. Il va y avoir tout un boulot de recherche d'infos sur chaque bateau que j'ai pris en photo à mettre peut être sur wikidata ? J'ai encore 500 photos dont je n'ai pas le nom !!! Ca va être un boulot de fourmis pour retrouver les noms... a+ --Philweb (talk) 19:17, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

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OK - pas de problème pour la suppression. --Philweb (talk) 07:24, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Monument aux mortsEdit

Salut Fab J'ai dans l'idée de télécharger les photos que j'ai prises des monuments aux morts de 14-18 (MAM) du Finistère. Ce sont des photos qui ne posent aucun problème de copyright car j'ai écarté ceux qui ont été sculptés par des artistes pour ne garder que des obélisques, calvaires et autres portails d'église. Ma question est: que dois je mettre comme catégorie ? Il y aura la catégorie de la commune. War memorials in France War memorials in Finistère World War I memorials in Finistère

Par ailleurs, j'ai remarqué qu'une photo Fouesnant-Monument aux morts.jpg ne devait peut-être pas se trouver sur WP car le sculpteur René Quilivic est décédé en 1969. Idem pour les photos du MAM de Carhaix: Carhaix_44_Le_monument_aux_morts.jpg Idem pour les photos du MAM de Le Faou: Le Faou Monument aux morts.JPG. Le sculpteur Etienne Camus est décédé en 1955 Idem pour Monument_aux_morts_Guerlesquin_01.jpg

La catégorie: « Statues of poilus in Finistère » n'est pas conforme non plus car les statues ont été réalisées par des artistes dont le travail n'est pas dans le domaine public. Qu'est ce que tu penses de tout ceci ? Merci --Philweb (talk) 12:18, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Bonsoir,
Sur la catégorisation, il faut être le plus précis possible. En l'occurrence, dans ce cas, Category:World War I memorials in Finistère, puisque celle-ci est incluse dans Category:War memorials in Finistère, elle-même incluse dans Category:War memorials in France. Cela évite une inflation de photos dans les catégories (si chacune des 36000 communes françaises a un MàM, la catégorie nationale serait vite victime d'embonpoint !).
Si des images violent les conditions d'utilisation ou, pire, la loi, les processus et signalement se font sur la page Commons:Demandes de suppression. Après, il faut pouvoir le justifier : il est souvent bien difficile de connaître l'architecte/sculpteur de ces monuments et, plus encore, leurs dates de disparition. Bonne continuation, --Fab5669 (talk) 17:27, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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